The Rays have approached Tyler Glasnow’s representatives at Wasserman and Austin Meadows’ representatives at Excel Sports about potential long-term deals for the pair of burgeoning stars, reports Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times.
There’s no indication that talks with either party have progressed beyond the preliminary stage, but the reaction from the pair is notable. Both say they’re open to such an arrangement, with Meadows saying he “definitely would be open to something like that” but Glasnow taking a bit more reserved approach. While the right-hander acknowledged that he’d listen to offers, he also made clear that he doesn’t want to “sell [himself] short” and that he has “no problem going year-to-year.”
Looking at the two as separate cases, Glasnow’s situation is a bit trickier. The right-hander was utterly dominant when healthy in 2019, pitching to a 1.78 ERA with averages of 11.3 strikeouts, 2.1 walks and 0.59 home runs allowed per nine innings pitched. Unfortunately for both him and the Rays, a forearm strain limited the towering righty to 60 2/3 innings.
Glasnow was one of the game’s premier pitching prospects for years and, since being traded to the Rays, has broken out with 116 2/3 innings of 2.94 ERA ball and nearly 11 punchouts per nine frames. He doesn’t have a long track record in the Majors, though, and his platform season was noticeably light on workload. Throw in that he’s a Super Two player who’s already set to earn $2.05MM in 2020, and it becomes a bit muddier when trying to determine what the two sides might deem a fair price point.
For context, Glasnow’s own teammate, Blake Snell, holds the record for largest contract ever signed by a pitcher with between two and three years of big league service time. Snell signed a five-year, $50MM contract just last spring, but he wasn’t a Super Two player at the time of that agreement. He was, however, fresh off a Cy Young win, which makes his case perhaps something of an outlier. The second-largest deal ever inked by a two-plus pitcher was German Marquez, who landed a five-year, $43MM deal (also last winter). Marquez wasn’t a Super Two player but tossed thrice as many innings as Glasnow in his platform season. Luis Severino was a Super Two with two-plus years of service time when he signed a four-year, $40MM deal with a club option for a fifth season in February 2019, but he was projected to earn more than double the $2.05MM to which Glasnow agreed for the upcoming season (by virtue of his 2017-18 workload).
The unique nature of Glasnow’s situation and his stated willingness to go year-to-year might make an agreement tough to hammer out. A healthy and productive season out of the righty, after all, would lead to a substantial raise. Mike Foltynewicz played out the 2018 season as a Super Two player on a $2.2MM salary and, after 183 innings of 2.85 ERA ball, saw a 149 percent raise to $5.475MM for the 2019 campaign. Even with some regression in terms of his ERA, Glasnow could be looking at similar financial upside if he can rack up the innings. There’s also virtually no circumstance in which he’d be in for a pay cut in 2021, so he’s looking at a minimum of $4.1MM over the next two seasons as it is. At the very least, he has a bit of security on his side now that he’s into arbitration.
Meadows is in a different situation. The 24-year-old has a year and 74 days of service, which places him two full seasons away from reaching arbitration. Meadows slashed .291/.364/.558 with 33 home runs, 29 doubles, seven triples and 12 steals in 591 plate appearances during a breakout 2019 campaign with the Rays. In doing so, he cemented himself as a fixture in the lineup for the foreseeable future. The Rays’ interest in keeping him cost-controlled is plenty sensible, as Tampa Bay has routinely had to move on from its players as their salaries escalate in arbitration (Tommy Pham and Corey Dickerson are recent examples in the outfield). That looks particularly likely to be the case with Meadows iff he goes year-to-year, as his power numbers would play quite well when he does reach arbitration in the 2021-22 offseason.
Looking for some historical comps, Christian Yelich’s first extension — seven years and $49.57MM — is the largest ever signed by a player with between and two years of service. Ronald Acuna Jr. secured a $100MM payday with less than a year of service time, although that deal was an outlier and required him surrendering four would-be free-agent seasons in the process. Something closer to the first Yelich extension is a likelier base point, but that deal is five years old, so Meadows’ camp could aim to set a new precedent.
In the event that one or both do put pen to paper, the Rays’ 2020 payroll figures to be largely unaffected. Tampa Bay is set to again field one of the lowest-cost (but most-talented) rosters in baseball, with a projected Opening Day mark of just under $71MM. The Rays have about $34MM in guaranteed money on the books both in 2021 and in 2022, though, and that number dips to $24MM by the 2023 season. Fitting contract extensions for Meadows and/or Glasnow into the long-term budget shouldn’t be much of a reach — if the involved parties can years and dollars.
lowtalker1
Don’t let the rays owners go cheap
Make them pay
StPeteStingRays
Keep parroting the same sh over and over. I hope it makes you feel better!
How ignorant can you be?!? Blame the player’s agent if anything.
TheTrotsky
Lol don’t be so salty bro. Your team is cheap.
bush1
What are you talking about. OBVIOUSLY, the Rays Ownership is extremely cheap, and the Rays payroll is an embarrassment every single year.
Rudy Zolteck
Pirates fans in shambles
tiredolddude
Naw. We still have bobble heads and pierogi races. But thanks for caring
Robertowannabe
Not yet. If Glasnow stays healthy and pitches like he did for the first part of the season before the long IL stint and Meadows still crushes like he did for part of the year last year all the time, then maybe we Pirates fans will be pretty bummed out. Not so much till we see a bigger sample size.
Rudy Zolteck
Same could be said about Archer so we shall see. I don’t mean to drag the fans though. Great park and cool dudes.
Robertowannabe
Yes, Archer could stink again this year or he could remain healthy and thrive under a new Pitching couch. One never knows.
Lovinmlb
Pirate fans are too dense. These guys weren’t happening in Pittsburgh. If not for that trade Huntington and Hurdle would still be there and lots more prospects wouldn’t be developed properly. They gave up on Glasnow and made him a reliever. Meadows shown only half the power. Rays are best at what they do. Pirates owner thought and rightfully so his gm was doing a good job until his players turned into stars with other teams. You lost a average hitter and a good relief pitcher. Tampa made them great.
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Hyperbole is alive and well.
Glasnow and Meadows are not great players.
Mike Trout is a great player.Bob Gibson was a great pitcher.
Glasnow said that he finally grasped what Searage was telling him.Meadows broke out with power no one knew he had.They need to continue this level for several years for them to start approaching good status let alone great.
Lovinmlb
oh, you have to be a hall of fame once a generation player to be called great. I didn’t know that, thanks for clearing it up. well Tampa took Pittsburghs average players and they instantly made them above average. I think they are both the real deal, especially Glasnow and should be extended so Tampa can get more for them in trade when the contract gets more expensive. Although Tampa usually doesn’t trade a player until their decline is about to begin. If you want to wait and see on them sure. it is possible they regress but if they never played another game Tampa still wins the trade unless archer brings back a prospect that turns into a “above average player”. I think archer will be ok and bring back a top prospect. Not a top 100. Some kid in A ball with huge upside. It was a awful trade from day one. if it didn’t include Baz it would of been a ok trade at the time if you don’t believe in upside, like to give up on prospects quickly, and thought archer could be “above average”.
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I agree that Baz should not have been included but I think that the Pirates saw his control issues and panicked into giving him up.They would have received Archer anyway.
I also think that the Pirates clearly over rated Archer and somehow the Rays duped the Pirates into giving up two high ceiling players who had not improved as expected.
There were not a lot of Pirate fans who hated to see those two leave but maybe you were one of them.
We will see this year how they progress and whether Archer can regain some of his former effectiveness.
Lovinmlb
I am not a huge Pirate fan by any means so maybe I wasn’t emotionally attached to a playoff run or player or anything. It’s harder for a lower budget team to contend but if common sense is used it can be done. See Cleveland Tampa. Baseball is better with most teams contending or close to. I didn’t know the ptbnl was anyone good. Don’t like making traded to just have a chance at a 1 game play in. Didn’t think Pittsburgh had good odds for a wild card anyways. And didn’t see Archer as anything but a #4. Did ticket sales shoot up after the trade? That is a factor in evaluating a trade nobody ever talks about. Baz was just stupid. He wasn’t doing well but was just taken in 1st round. He had the pedigree so give him some time. Glasnow was awful as a starter but as a reliever was impressive. He walked too many but they couldn’t hit him. Why couldn’t he get same results as a starter? you can improve control. I don’t like giving up on guys with upside, not guys who can throw 100. Now Meadows I never seen the hype. I heard 5 tool player, I was like if all 5 tools are just average. Yet Pirate fans claim they can’t believe they have him away. He was great all through the minors. I only seen him in the majors and maybe a handful of spring training games. I can look up stats though and they don’t show any elite power. Everybody knew he was going to hit all those hr’s though at the time of the trade. Well I didn’t see it coming. So a average outfielder and a good relief pitcher with upside to be a good starter is about right for Archer if you like Archer that much. But low budget teams can’t go all in on average player for a long shot at a wild card. They need to lock up young players if possible. Trade away expiring players if not contending. Just keep the machine running. No team should pay 30 million a year for a players age 30 to 38 seasons. For a 2 or 3 year contract sure, but not 8 or 10 years. New Meadows extension article up. I am sure Pirate fans will be on it.
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You seem to have a fairly accurate take on this trade.I was saying the reasons for it.NH had generally become an astute trader even though the drafting and development systems were no better than fair.Other posters are correct in that this trade went against the small market team plan.But this trade was not indicative of his other trades,which yinzers complain about endlessly but have no knowledge of the actual recent history.
Quite frankly with the Marte salary dump I am afraid that BC does not know what he is doing unless it was for salary relief which the Pirates certainly do not need.He should have received much more for their best player.NH did a fine job in the middle years and not just because the Pirates were winning.We will see if this new GM learned anything in Boston.The jury is out on him.
Lovinmlb
For a 7 year span NH might have been the best at trades. He killed it. Never did a mega trade but always won the trade easily. The 2 big trades he did he failed at. Marte was not for salary relief. I am sure the owner didn’t mind, but Marte was at peak value at a time mutiple contenders needed cf and there was no one else on the market. Any smart run non contending team makes that return. I know we disagree on this trade. Liriano was a salary dump for sure, don’t blame them either. I love the return. Both those guys could easily be in the top 100 next year or following year. I don’t care if they are low level 4 years away. Talent is Talent. Do you want 1 average fringe top 100 prospect that will be ready this year or next or 2 guys who are far off but could be stars? That is our difference of opinion. I would take either of those guys over any pirate prospect not named Cruz Priester or Keller. I want my 3b hitting at least 20 hrs. If Hayes can’t do that I don’t care if he wins 10 gold gloves. I am just a fan of baseball. I always liked fantasy baseball football. I’m sports video games I always enjoyed the franchise mode. I follow and research all the major trades. As a kid I was a fan of a team and as I grew older I couldn’t take all the horrible moves they made. So I guess now I am a fan of smart ran teams and gms haha. I liked Cherington in Boston and so far in Pittsburgh he is 1 for 1. That Marte trade is a A. Baseball has changed in just the past year or so. Teams aren’t parting easily with close prospects. If you want a top ranked guy you better have a star in the block. Cherington way is the new way to bring in elite talent. Pirate fans wanted the high ranked catcher. If you had a high ranked catcher are you trading him for a 31 year old former ped user with declining defensive metrics that you have to pay him 20 million? Not that enticing. I love how the Indians and Rays do things. I think Pirates can do that as well with Cherington. We will see.
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An intelligent and measured response.
Not something that I often see here.
I hope that you are right on the trade.I just know from history of the % of even top 100 prospects that ever make it decently in the MLB.
I think that they will win 72 games this year but maybe 3 more with Marte and if everything breaks right they could do better.
But normally now they don’t.
Lovinmlb
I am right that it was a good trade at the time. 2 high ceiling elite talent prospects that any team would want. That’s all I am saying. Peguero tore up the low minors as a teen. Did you like the pirates first round pick of Priester? They easily could have taken Malone there. They were the same level of high school pitching prospect. They may never make it to the show or end up being a #4 starter and utility guy. Nobody knows for sure, that’s why they are called prospects. It sounds better if you think of it like you aren’t contending for the playoffs this year or next right? Do you want to sign a 33 year old marte? probably not but in 2 years you can. So you traded someone that gives you 3 extra wins for 2 1st round draft picks. Now they could of traded for 2 guys closer to being MLB ready but they wouldn’t have the same ceiling. So it’s either trade for a 2nd and 3rd round draft pick who could be able to help you in 2021. Or trade for 2 1st round picks who could help you in 2024? Do you want Moran and Musgrove or Hayes and Cruz?
Top 100 to me is overrated. Hayes has been in what top 30 40 50 past 2 3 years? Guy never hit for any power. Same with Trammel. Lots of these guys. And they have a place in the league but who gets all the huge money? Power hitters n power pitchers. Those should be the top 100 guys. And every year the top 12 or so players in the draft go right into the top 100 having done nothing professionally. It’s a flawed list. Good news on Hayes is the pirates are talking about locking him up. Aka maybe they made some changes to unlock some more power. But yeah I don’t have a agenda nor am I biased. Try to give a neutral honest opinion based on facts and reading between the lines on things. I personally think Marte is going to have a 30 30 30 season. Hit close to 30 hrs .300 avg and take 30 bags. Prob a 25 27 24 season or whatever but it pays to be a lil bold. If you are right you look smart if you are wrong nobody remembers because they looked at it like it was crazy talk from day one. I think Kela and Archer are gone at deadline and Bell Frazier in next year and half. These will be the moves that build the pirates if they work out. Pirates have some nice players but that is it. Half the teams in baseball Newman and Frazier don’t start. Bell is a DH. Moran Polonco are pinch hitters. All the pitchers would be fighting for the #4 #5 spots on other teams. Some teams they don’t make the rotation. Cherington walked into a mess. I like his trade strategy but it’s going to take 4 years to see results.
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I admittedly have little to no knowledge of young players nor draft choices.
Most never make it and I do not have the time nor inclination to study them.
I also only know about the Pirates and some about the Phillies since I live near there.
I understand your thought process and the plan that you say the Pirates have.
At this point I am tired of too many losing seasons and no chance to win a World Series or even compete.
That is why I do not like trades that are like this one where there is no semi sure definition of a ML return in the near future.
Lovinmlb
I am no expert. I don’t watch film for 10 hours a day or anything. I used to pay more attention to the minors just seeing how guys I played with or against were doing. But draft time I will watch the previews and highlight videos. I watch the spring training games on mlb network while I eat dinner or workout. There was 3 high school pitchers taken in 2019 draft and pirates have 2 of them. They drafted one and one they got in Marte trade. So if they take a pitcher in this draft or next or both. Get 2 or 3 more in the Kela Archer Bell Frazier trades. If just 2 or 3 of the 6 or 7 high ceiling pitching prospects hit they are in business in 2024!
Yeah I think Cherington has a 4 to 5 year plan. I think, even rooting for hoping Cherington does what I think he will do. If so I will be a huge Pirate fan. I like teams/gms that have the same vision or mindset that I have. So far he is 100%. I don’t like tanking to get the number one draft pick. I want to see the best product possible on the field. He isn’t tanking. He could of traded the 4 players that hopefully will be traded but the market for them wasn’t good. Kela and Archer will be traded at deadline no matter what unless hurt or just awful. Bell or Frazier only if they are doing good and there is a good market for them. Problem now is what contender needs a 2b or DH? They have them for 2 more seasons after this one so no rush to trade them. He could of dumped all 4 and saved 20 million this year but didn’t do not a salary dump. Fans are already posted about Marte so not like this would be a PR nightmare. I mean could the hatred of Nutting get any worse? I haven’t seen anyone on here like the guy. He is the most famous owner on these forums and not in a good way. I don’t know who the owner is of half the teams. But everybody on here knows who owns the Pirates.
Only 1 small payroll market team has won the world series in last 28 years so it’s not easy. Now the cards have done it a few times but they are a 2 sport town, no NFL team and put 3.5 million people in the seats each year and are in the top 10 of payrolls each year. Rays have a good shot this year with 60 70 million payroll so there is hope. Always good to talk with you. I will check back if you reply. Will keep you updated with my Cherington review. The man got more in return for Marte then Huntington got for Cole and Cutch. Pirate fans will be able to hold their head high in 2025.
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Cole trade was quantity versus quality but he was coming off two mediocre seasons and did not want to play in Pittsburgh.
Cashman could have had him but did not want to pay the price of young players who have not really worked out for the Yankees.Oops,there went one World Series win.
I think that NH got the best deal that he could get at the time.The question is whether he should have waited until the next trade deadline to trade him.
The Astros did not want to trade a young pitcher and others so NH took what he could get because small market teams could never afford Cole.Those young players have not blossomed yet for the Astros.NH got four useable players to fill gaps and they are all still on the team.
The McCutcheon deal was a steal for Reynolds.The relief pitcher is good if he gets his act back together.Cutch is still a good player but you saw last year what can easily happen to an older player.The Pirates cannot afford to have $50M players not playing.
We obviously disagree on your last statement.
But you are clearly correct on your statement of small market teams and the 0.5% chance that they in general have of winning the WS in any given year.So every 200 years or so we can presume another triumph.
Lovinmlb
I loved the McCutchen trade. He had to go. Great return. Only 1 season left, declining. A grade trade. I am just saying I like the Marte trade even better! A good relif pitcher and a prospect that hit at all levels. Safe trade. I know that is our differences right there. I just don’t want you to think I didn’t like the trade. Just it was for a relief pitcher and a guy with Michael Brantley upside. The Marte trade you got a SS with Lindor upside and a potential Ace starting pitcher. But way less of a sure thing. You can sign a good relief pitcher for 8 million a year 3 years? 2 to 4 years at 15 million or so a year for a Reynolds type? Now you need a few elite bats and for sure a couple elite pitchers to win in the postseason right? Are the pirates going to spend 30 million a year on even one of these players let alone 2 or 3? Give out 200 and 300 million contracts? So you Either draft them or trade for them
So pirates just got 2 first round draft picks from the diamondbacks. Aka more chances better odds of adding a difference maker. I am working on you. Gonna get you on board with me and Ben’s plan haha. Ben ain’t trying to stay in contention, maybe get lucky and make it as a wild card. He is trying to win it all. You can clone Moran 3 more times, have a rotation with 5 Musgroves, 3 Reynolds in the outfield and you still aren’t making the playoffs. I would rather traded Cole for just one of the guys Marte brought back then the 4 guys Houston dug out of the trash can ( no pun intended ) Yeah right I was totally intending the pun! Hey great feedback again. Great talk. We could totally have a podcast dedicated to Pirates trades. Heck just on the Marte trade alone. Keep this talk going man. Way it’s looking we aren’t going to have any baseball to watch. I can talk some Phillies too. How bout that rebuild? They lose all those years, have a weak farm. All they have to show on the MLB roster is Nola who was a ace, then he wasn’t so up in the air. I think he is in between. A first baseman and a super utility player. Didn’t work out like the cubs or trashtros. I loved the Harper signing but only because of the PR and ticket sales. Great move. Cutch was good. So was Didi. But Jean is getting older and Realmuto isn’t going to be cheap to keep. You know I like Wheeler, lots of upside with a nice serving of risk. Why sign Arieta though? Terrible. Would the cubs let him walk for that cheap if he was still worth it? He will be better this year but not 75 million better. Pirate fans love to make fun of Chisenhal, how bout Robertson? Ok I should of saved the Philly talk for another time. I just wrote my first novel.
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THe Phillies got Arrieta because Klentak had to get a pitcher.It seems obvious to me though that he was bidding against himself as Arrieta had clearly gone downhill and was older so $50M should have made the grade.
They need to win this year for him to save his job.
Robertson had been a very good and dependable pitcher and this is what can happen to pitchers.Chisenhall was a decent player but he was born hurt and never recovered.That used to happen to Charlie Morton a lot too but people do not remember that about him because of his recent success.
I will trust your expectations for the two young players from Arizona.
You are right the old Pirate philosophy was try to make the wild card and anything can happen but you need three good starting pitchers for anything to happen in the postseason.
If Ben is trying to win it all good for him but losing gets old and the fans will stop attending in Pittsburgh as they have already begun to do.
If you have never read Ball Four make sure that you do and pay particularly attention to the last line as I think that it applies to you especially.
Lovinmlb
I havnt read it. I will keep a eye out for it. I have easily 100 books I bought and have yet to read. I can’t pass up a deal. About the Cutch injury, anybody can blow out a knee. Age didn’t help. Would of never happened to Machado though. So if there is no games this year. The Phillies trades sixto and got only 1 season of Realmuto and Dbacks will only get 1 season of Marte. I think that’s how it works but havnt heard anyone reliable talk about it. And the Dodgers traded picks and pay Betts 27 million and only get a comp pick in return?
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I hope that there will be a season this year.
Good talking with you.
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So no one can watch them play
snotrocket
Will Archer get a major league deal when he is a free agent?
lowtalker1
Probably
mlb1225
He was a league average pitcher before 2019. If he can stay healthy, I dont see why he couldn’t produce like he did in ’16-’18.
Lovinmlb
I predict he will improve, be traded at deadline and team will gladly pick up his option. Previous management was inept. He isn’t that bad. No longer a all star but a component starter.
clepto
Ok, Einsein(s): free information for you two.
Glasnow and Meadows both have had 1+ nice year, right? The answer is yes. They show promise, but particularly Glasnow is high ceiling but inconsistent.
Glasnow and Meadows still have years of controllable salary? The answer is yes. Fact: advantage Rays.
Rays want to buy out some arbitration years and maybe a year or two of free agency? Answer is yes. Do I need to explain arbitration for you two type-first-think-later?
The players, in this category, look to get a nice paycheck, and set up for at least one more big free agent deal.
Stop and comprehend this situation for 30 seconds. Really think about it if you can.
Ill wait.
Now, tell me where a pre arb, or arb eligible player can “make them pay”, especially a team who is cost efficient, not “cheap” as the Rays.
Its called a negotiation for a reason, and if there is any advantage, its the team during prearb or arb eligible players.
But, if you want to continue to be nitwits, and call the Rays cheap, when in fact they are cost efficient, then go right ahead. Maube you should talk to some Red Sox fans.
LADreamin
Very condescending and not a lot of new information. 2/10.
vtadave
Generous score there.
0/10 like the rest of his posts.
baseballpun
Nothing like condescendingly calling people “Einstein” and misspelling “Einstein.”
Just_a_thought
For someone who just showed about 2/3 of understanding, you have not quite shown proficiency from the “high level” teaching point of view that you’ve so graciously bestowed upon yourself.
clepto
why dont you enlighten us to the other 1/3, genius. remember who the original audience aptitude was.
Javia
Audience=who
Audience aptitude=what
It’s subject vs. object. Caps are always required for the first word in a sentence. These are things you should probably know if you are going to attempt to talk down to people.
clepto
Javia, how about you just EAD.
Javia
Your intelligence astounds me. I am sorry, I have already graduated high school. Get back to me whenever you do.
bush1
There is absolutely zero doubt the Rays Are EXTREMELY cheap by MLB standards. It’s silly to argue otherwise. Plus you don’t have to spend near the Red Sox, but how about get to $100 million in payroll 1 year?! It’s ridiculous.
baseball10
What about Shane Baz?
gleybertorres25
He’s still only 20
cosmicwonders
Pirates fuming
kc38
So this tells me Meadows will sign one and Glasnow will not
Just_a_thought
“Will” is such a strong word to derive from the tone and plain language of this article.
BFFLR
Trade them back to the Pirates!
bobtillman
The last time that Topkin reported anything accurately was when he wrote that Generalissimo Franco was still dead.
MOST teams and agents have extension talks ALL THE TIME; during pre-season, the regular season, the post season, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Kwanza, and all the Jewish holidays. David Ortiz (more fairly, his agent) was said to be negotiating one of his extensions during a World Series he was in; think Big Papi was more concerned about his contract or about who won the silly game?
Many players want extensions; the hamburger today is worth more than the promise of a steak tomorow. Agents LOVE extensions; instant money. Many GMs like extensions; if nothing else, it guarantees larger sums of money in the future, a future when the GM may or may not have the same employer. Owners used to love extensions (when they could depreciate long-term contracts), but that’s been cut down quite a bit (tho you can still do it).
Of course it’s a matter for negotiation, and sometimes they take a season or more. But it’s an ongoing process, not something that that any team is “willing” to do only at any point in time or with this player or that player.
Specifically? Re Glassnow, it’s a tough call; the ceiling is really, really high, Cy-Young type. But pitchers are iffy (as Snell seems ready to take his fat contract back to the IL after today; I don’t expect much from him for the next couple of years). It would be a gamble. Meadows is a bit safer. The change from the super ball to a normal one will probably drop his power numbers, but the bat-to-ball is still pretty good, and he’s at least adequate defensively, tho not much more. Will he mail it in with the money already in the bank? That’s what they have to determine (a much larger factor than all those silly metrics).
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Bobt- well said regarding Glasnow and Meadows.
The reason that I stay on this site is that some posters actually know what they are talking about.
Others,not so much.
smrtbusnisman04a
Why not kick Neil Huntington once more in the nads and extend Shane Baz?
Still not as bad as the Bartolo Colon trade in 2000
thats it fort pitt
Would the Pirates fans undo the trade if they had to trade ballparks? PNC with Archer, or The Trop with Meadows, Glasnow, and (eventually) Baz? I’ll stick with PNC…for now.
StPeteStingRays
A baseball stadium in west central Florida that’s not climate controlled is pure madness. The Pirates can keep Arch and their park. Without a roof and AC, more than half the home games will be postponed.
bush1
The Rays place is an absolute dumb, but there’s no undoing that idiotic trade for the Pirates.
bush1
*dump
hiflew
The Rays offer? ONE MILLION DOLLARS!