We’ve been learning quite a bit about Major League Baseball’s coronavirus plans involving players, whose relationships with the league are conditioned upon a collective bargaining agreement. But teams also employ quite a few other personnel under rather different terms.
It has not been clear to this point just how the league would handle non-uniformed employees. But the MLB commissioner’s office has acted to secure coordinated action on this front, per Jeff Passan of ESPN.com and Evan Drellich of The Athletic (Twitter link).
Every team has agreed to continue employing all non-player personnel in the regular fashion through the end of April. That will ensure steady paychecks for a large number of employees, though it’s worth remembering that not all workers associated with a ballclub and ballpark — say, vendors — are necessarily employed by the team. (The league has previously promised at least $30MM to ballpark workers — $1MM per team.. The Red Sox have boosted that amount, as Jason Mastrodonato of the Boston Herald tweets.)
The question remains: what’ll happen when the calendar flips to May? That isn’t known at present and will surely depend upon how the global coronavirus pandemic plays out. If baseball is ramping back up for play come that time, perhaps a broad loss of jobs can be forestalled altogether. Further coordination could take place at the league level, but it’s also possible teams will at some point be left to set their own courses.
sufferforsnakes
Peanuts, get yer peanuts…..
Vizionaire
¢10 beers?
BlueSkies_LA
I’m still waiting for MLB’s plan for season ticket holders. I’m beginning to strongly suspect that the teams plan on keeping our money, whether the games are played or not.
MB923
You will definitely be reimbursed for games that you have tickets for that they don’t play. There is no question about that.
BlueSkies_LA
I take it you’ve never dealt with an airline or a tour company in a situation like this. Any money you’ve paid to them they consider to be their money, whether or not they are able to deliver on the service you’ve purchased. If they are feeling very generous they might offer you a voucher for something in the future. The very conspicuous lack of any discussion about what will happen to ticket holders tells me they are probably looking at using the travel industry model. Just you wait.
Cam
Or, there is priority currently being put on people missing out on paychecks, ahead of people missing out on tickets.
User 4245925809
Majority of the.. Believe it is 500m targeted to corporations is for company salaries during the time they are not working/ Please remember the airlines and others right now were successful BEFORE getting this money for salaries, unlike the wasted 900m in 2009 for fantasy green products where most went bankrupt anyway.
BlueSkies_LA
Paid for by those of us who’ve already bought tickets and massive government grants and loans and unemployment insurance payouts. You can’t escape the fact that everyone’s interests are in the process of being addressed except for the fans who pay the bills. Most fans holding those tickets are hearing little or nothing from the teams. Maybe this tells you nothing but it tells me quite a bit about what to expect. The travel industry model.
socalblake
I would hope the teams follow the playoffs model where if the team doesn’t make it, you, the purchaser, are refunded your cost or given the choice to apply credit toward the next season. At least that was my case when I purchased playoff tickets, after having purchased season tickets for that same year.
bsteves35
Yes because everyone is worried about rich people and if they get a refund.
Cam
What you can’t get your head around is that NO ONE knows what’s happening right now. We don’t know what kind or season there will be – we don’t even know if there will be a season at all. At this point, thousands of people are dying from a virus sweeping through the world, and the most organized brains in the world don’t know what tomorrow will bring – let alone what your season tickets constitute tomorrow or months in the future.
Now, you’re using an article about people having their wages guaranteed in a time of crisis, as a forum to vent about not getting answers that absolutely no one is able to give to you in the first place. At this point, you don’t even know what the question is.
Get some perspective, and get yourself out from under the weight of bitterness and negativity you bring here.
mike127
blueskies—–if you think you are remotely correctly, you should find another team to have tickets for. Teams give money back for rainouts., there will definitely be a policy for unplayed games. Remember, at this point, the teams have NO idea if they are going to play 162 games or no games at all. There is a lot more going on right now than your season ticket account.
BlueSkies_LA
Read the terms and conditions on ticket purchases for any team. The teams do not give money back for rainouts, they give out rain checks (otherwise known as a voucher) for the rescheduled game. The terms are pretty standard through baseball and state clearly no cash refunds. Most of the teams have been absolutely silent on how ticket holders to canceled game will be treated. This is why I am predicting that most of the teams will adopt the travel industry model.
mike127
Blue sky——to your terms and conditions comment—-I’ve been a season ticket holder for 30+ years—-if they game is not played I have the option of getting my money back or applying the credit to the next season. You are correct, if the game is rescheduled I go the the make up game—but if it is not made up—-we don’t lose the money. Obviously, it’s in the best interest of all to play the game and is rare when it’s not—-but you are not going to lose 81 games worth of money.
BlueSkies_LA
From the ticket purchase Terms & Conditions for the Dodgers:
“All sales are final. No refunds, returns, or exchanges of any kind are permitted. The Account Holder expressly waives and forever releases any right to seek any refund of any amount paid under this Agreement, including, without limitation, any right or basis to seek or obtain any chargeback or other reversal of any credit card payment.”
and
“CANCELLATION POLICY: If a regulation Game is not played (“Cancelled Game”) and is rescheduled to be played either on a date for which no other game was previously scheduled or as part of a split double header (i.e., two games played on the same day, but each of which requires an individual ticket), this ticket may be exchanged at Dodger Stadium, at any time after the date of the Cancelled Game, for an individual ticket of equal or lesser face value for a future regular season game (subject to prior sales and ticket availability). In no instance shall this ticket be exchangeable for a ticket with a face value greater than the face value of the ticket. NO CASH REFUND OR CREDIT WILL BE ISSUED AND THIS TICKET MAY NOT BE APPLIED TO ANY ACCOUNT BALANCE. This policy may be amended at any time without notice.”
I’d be surprised if the wording is much different for other teams but I’d be interested to know if it is.
Strike Four
No one cares about your rich guy problems, season ticket holders are the least important people here, I honestly hope teams steal your money to pay their nonunionized vendors, clown.
jdgoat
Damn you’re bitter
BlueSkies_LA
What a nasty point of view. I own a share in a season ticket, nowhere close to the prime seating area, yet it is a lot of money and a big investment to me. I’m surrounded with working stiffs just like me, not rich guys. I realize many of the people who post here seldom if ever actually go to a ballgame, but ticket buyers are the people who pay the bills and make the game possible. You’re welcome.
outinleftfield
TV pays the bills. Tickets and concessions account for 30% of revenue. Season ticket holders like you and I maybe 15%.
Since the teams don’t know when or if a season will be held and have absolutely no news to give you, why are you complaining?
Once they know something, then they can tell us something.
If they give you vouchers for future games for games not played, how are you being ripped off? You are not. You are being fairly compensated.
BlueSkies_LA
TV might be the biggest single source of revenue but tickets are number two, and last I checked those broadcasts generally feature bodies in the seats.
Cam
@outinleftfield – you’re asking him/her a question they cannot possibly answer without realizing they’re a bitter, entitled, out of touch person.
Unfortunately, common sense and a sense of reality isn’t all that common.
BlueSkies_LA
You are consistently one of the nastiest people on these boards. Congratulations are in order, I suppose. Everybody has to be good at something.
bsteves35
I agree. Take that money and give it to people so they can eat and keep a roof over their head.
jk
Quite easy for you to say strike 4. If it was your money, you’d be concerned. There are plenty of season ticket holders that aren’t rich, who are no longer receiving a paycheck.
bringbackthebluee
So the poor people (vendors and security and cleaners) don’t get a check but the front office people that already make bank do. Lmao that’s savage.
VonPurpleHayes
I think every case is different. Some vendors are not employed by the team. For example the Mets and Phillies vendors are Aeromark employees. So what happens to them will be determined by Aeromark. Sometimes these employees are allowed to collect unemployment during the offseason. Would that apply to 2020 in thr case of a shortened or canceled season? I think there’s a lot of complexity here.
Eminor3rd
Teams employ dozens to hundreds of full-time, salaries employees who do NOT make bank — salespeople, administrators, community relations, technicians, etc., all who work a lot more hours for less money than people get in other fields with comparable skill sets, because market forces drive salary down because so many people want to “work in sports”
These workers are non-unionized and don’t have any more of a way to protect themselves than someone who works at any other large corporation — they just tend have less money to fall back on.
Strike Four
@Eminor3rd
I’m stunned. Absolutely stunned. 99.5% of posts on this site lately have descended into rightwinger homerism “my team is totally infallible and won every trade and never does anything wrong and is incapable of criticism and if you make one comment saying otherwise I will come down on you as if you insulted my mother.”
Then you come along with an actual, real-world situation that is currently happening to people, you spoke an actual truth here, as opposed to “I can barely read but still can log onto MLBTR to hate-reply to comments I only read 2 words of and ignored the rest”
Absolute kudos to you. Please post 100x more. New fave commenter. This site needs more people like you posting. You speak 100% truth. Best comment in weeks.
The Human Rain Delay
“Come down on you as if you insulted my mother.” (S4)
“Strike 4 9 comments up ” ” Nobody cares about your rich guy problems”” I hope the team steals your money”
Classic, Your like the bad guy in the movie who turns good at the end but the movies so bad you turn it off in the middle and never find out! Who knew ?!?
VonPurpleHayes
Absolutely true. This virus will have a long-lasting impact on everyone, and I don’t have any answers. I’ve seen a lot of teams’ players donating money to some of the employees you mention. I hope this trend continues.
VonPurpleHayes
And by “Absolutely true” I was referring to @Eminor3rd. Not the tangential nonsense Strike Four mentioned.
yankeejim
Don’t kid yourselves. I’m a long time season ticket holder, and the team just informed me I’d receive credit towards NEXT year for cancelled games
YankeesBleacherCreature
Or similarly receive a refund for any cancelled games. There is absolutely no reason for teams to screw over their customers esp. loyal season-ticket holders. Some of these comments make no sense.
BlueSkies_LA
It will be up to the teams but refunds are highly unlikely. You’d think the travel industry would have no reason to screw over their loyal customers but if you are also now dealing with travel arrangements that have been canceled by these companies you know better.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I don’t really worry about that as my credit card covers travel insurance. For example, I booked an expensive trip to go to stay at a high-end ski resort in northern Italy for five days. On the day which I arrived to Italy, I was informed by the hotel that there was an avalanche which blocked most roads. A pedestrian road was open but that would require me to walk a mile through heavy snow luggage in toll to a pickup point. Obviously, the conditions were unsafe to even spend time at the resort now. I needed to make different plans. My credit card company investigated it all for a half a day and fully refunded me for everything that was prepaid – hotel, ski gear rental, lift tickets, and evening show tickets. First world problems.
The Human Rain Delay
You went to Italy and then stopped upon a 1 mile walk!!!!
BlueSkies_LA
So you’re okay because of your credit card? You know that travel insurance (no matter where you get it) only works in specified situations. You were lucky in a sense that you’d already arrived at your destination when the trip had to be canceled. That’s trip interruption coverage. If you had never gotten on the airplane they might not have covered any of that. I booked an international trip for May, which the tour company just canceled. They are not refunding but offering a voucher for another tour. We have travel insurance but it’s unclear if they’d pay us a red cent in that case because our trip wasn’t interrupted. The airline is also offering only a voucher not a refund and the voucher periods offered by the two of them are incompatible. So were are probably screwed.
But back to baseball. Vouchers aren’t cool. You can only use them on their terms and if those terms don’t work for you, well, you’re screwed.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Lol JD. I didn’t go due to the possibility of more avalanches, getting stuck there, and not being able to ski/snowboard. Ended up doing the usual tourist things all throughout northern Italy and west of France.
AtlSoxFan
What I’ve seen widely announced for ST I’d imagine to be the same plan for the regular season:
If a game is rescheduled, normal mlb policy about it being good for the rescheduled game apply.
If a game is cancelled, it depends how you bought your ticket: individual game ticket holders, if the original purchaser, get refunded for their cancelled games; full/partial season ticket holders get a prorated credit for next season.
outinleftfield
Padres and we were told we would be told more when they knew more. That any games completely canceled we would have a choice of additional tickets for 2020 or credits towards our 2021 season tickets. Considering the fact that the teams have bo idea when or if the season will begin or what the schedule will be at that point, I think they have done an awesome job communicating with season ticket holders.
whyhayzee
I wish baseball would first look at the impact of cancelling the season and figure that out. Then they can backtrack if any baseball is able to be played this year. This piecemeal approach is pure conjecture and a complete waste of time once more time passes.
YankeesBleacherCreature
It’s like they don’t even know they can hire economists, accountants, lawyers, epidemiologists, etc. to help figure all of that stuff out.
The Human Rain Delay
Wouldnt stopping and starting be a piece meal ?
You dont have time to waste right now? Lucky you
its_happening
Un-cancel a cancelled season? No. That’s completely out of the question and a very bad idea.
bobtillman
Proctology is the answer.
whyhayzee
September 14, 2020 – Major league baseball has announced a new plan in case the season is able to start in two weeks. They will play games over a period of 24 hours, allowing teams to use their full major and minor league rosters, placing restrictions on how many major league players can play in each game.. All the games will be in hastily built baseball fields in the desert of Nevada, keeping travel at a minimum. This is the 319th plan devised by major league baseball but they really believe we’re almost at the end of the curve and can finally see the way to starting the season.
wordonthestreet
Try again
whyhayzee
cancelled.