12:55pm: The non-roster invitees who are covered by the union’s weekly allowance are those who are Article XX(B) free agents and finished the 2019 season on a Major League roster or injured list, MLBTR has learned. That effectively covers players with six-plus years of MLB service who closed out last season on a roster and settled for minor league deals this winter.
12:05pm: Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch tweets that Manfred confirmed the obvious during the conference call, plainly stating: “We are not going to start on April 9.”
Unsurprisingly, Goold notes that owners are still hoping to enjoy the revenue of a full season, although it’s not at all clear how they believe that to be possible. That seems like more of a pipe dream, given the increasingly broad slate of governmental regulations and restrictions being put into place the curb the spread of the pandemic. Beyond that, the logistical and meteorological challenges that would arise with a season beginning as late as June or July range from formidable to insurmountable.
Digression aside, Goold adds that Manfred has not formally closed training camps but has sought to limit informal workouts. The commissioner wouldn’t speculate as to when the season could actually begin.
11:53am: Developments have been quick to materialize since Major League Baseball halted Spring Training camps due to the Coronavirus pandemic. More major news could be on the horizon, as USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that commissioner Rob Manfred is conducting a conference call today wherein he plans to advise all clubs to shut down their spring facilities entirely. Nightengale adds that multiple GMs believe the shutdown could now extend into the month of July, although there’s no formal word on anything beyond the current (very conservative) April 9 date that was announced last Thursday.
Additionally, the MLBPA sent a memo to agents this morning covering a number of issues that have grown into points of concern in the wake of the shutdown (all Twitter links via The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal). Among the pressing issues for veteran players who are in camp on non-roster deals was one of what happens to their mid-spring opt-out dates. A player with a March 19 opt-out date, for instance, is left in an uncomfortable limbo.
Such clauses are commonplace among veterans; among the dozens of recognizable names with such provisions are: Francisco Liriano, Neil Walker, Wade LeBlanc, Logan Forsythe, Greg Holland, Trevor Rosenthal, Jake Petricka and Anthony Swarzak (among countless others). The dates of those clauses range from March 16 up through Opening Day. The Blue Jays already selected Joe Panik to the 40-man roster to avoid complications.
To that end, the league and union are discussing a transaction freeze that could be implemented in the “very near future” and would run through the reopening of training camps, per Rosenthal. Certainly, there’ll need to be some renegotiation of just where those players’ opt-outs will fall on the calendar of a so-called “second Spring Training” later in the year, but the worry over what to do for the time being would be mitigated. Those players would simply remain the property of the clubs with which they signed this winter, rather than having to decide whether to exercise an opt-out clause at a time when the team can’t be sure of a non-roster player’s chances of making the club (and a time when other clubs may be wary of signing anyone new).
The union is also offering to cover some spring living allowances for players, per Rosenthal, allotting up to $1100 per week to 40-man roster players — and “certain non-roster invitees,” though the nature of the exemption isn’t clear — who choose to return either to their homes or to their team’s home city. Per Joel Sherman of the New York Post (Twitter link), the memo stipulates: “This allowance will remain in effect until April 9th or such a time that the Clubs begin providing similar allowances.”
Sherman further adds (Twitter thread) that the union has informed agents that it is raising complaints with the league regarding teams that have not complied with MLB’s March 14 memo regarding the availability of spring facilities. That memo stipulated that players on a 40-man roster “must be permitted to remain at the Club’s Spring Training site, and are eligible to receive their usual Spring Training allowances.” Today’s union memo indicates that various player testimonies and public reports have made clear this is not happening universally.
Of course, further questions abound. The two sides are still discussing scheduling, player salaries, Major League service time, amateur signings and a host of other topics, per Rosenthal. Matters that pertain to the June draft, incentive-laden contracts and the July 31 trade deadline are surely all being discussed and will be ongoing as both parties seek to navigate their way through an unprecedented series of challenges in today’s game.
July? jeez, have to stop jumping to conclusions. its really worth taking this week by week. no one can guess what will be happening by April, May, June, etc
Darkside.
We need to look at Italy and Spain. If people, especially young people, use their common sense, we wont get there.
Right now we can see two weeks into the future, unless we act in such a way that we don’t prevent the spread.
we don’t have an exemple yet of how we can reasonably expect this to progress, nor will the situation here likely be the same as that of those two countries. as i keep saying, im generally more pessimistic than most, but to act like one has any sure information on how this might be in even one month is naive.
The Surgeon General is saying we are now where Italy was two weeks ago. The only way we don’t go to where they are now is if everybody takes this emergency seriously and accepts the best medical advice we have available. I see lots of evidence that isn’t happening.
We have plenty of information, we don’t have exact information.
We know it’s more contagious than the flu. We don’t know exactly how much more contagious than the flu.
We know it is ten to thirty times more lethal than the flu. We just don’t know what the exact number is.
And we know it will put you in the hospital at ten to twenty times the rate as the normal flu.
We know it affects older people, we just don’t know if it’s 40 and older like Italy or 60 and over as China claimed.
We know Trout is the best player in baseball, but we don’t know what’ he’ll do in 2020.
And we have a lot of misinformation going around too. On social media I still see pictures being posted of people standing lines to buy TP at Costco, as if that’s what this crisis is really all about, and claiming it’s all just a panic created by the media to control our minds. And worse. So many people still believe this is a big nothing.
I’d change all of the “We know”‘s to “We think” but otherwise great comment!
It is nothing. Buying all the tp isbt going to do anything
United States median age: 38
Spain median age: 42.7
Italy median age: 45.5
Italy Spain have a much older population than the USA does.
Saying we should look at them is asinine. Saying older people are dying due to the virus isn’t saying much…..
What we should be looking at is
A. Confirmed cases
B. Ages and health of confirmed cases deaths.
C. Preventing people from being around and exposing the sick, elderly, younger kids who are most at risk. Closing schools, limiting nursing home and hospital visits good ideas. Soon as you get home washing your hands and wiping down surfaces with cleaning products more in your home good idea.
So many people have coronavirus who are fine. Which, when more people are tested, confirmed to have coronavirus, and don’t die the statistics of death % are gonna drop significantly. Currently it’s at 3.4% confirmed cases have died. When more people are confirmed to have it that number could drop to 2% or even lower.
What are you arguing Johnsonville? That we should be less cautious and start going back to normal?
Those in power may be overreacting but that is a billion times better than underreacting in a situation like this.
I’m arguing you can be cautious without issuing a Nationwide quarantine and shutting everything down.
You can limit exposure and limit the spread without taking such drastic and over the top measures that’ll push the public in to mass hysteria and panic the longer a quarantine is in effect.
No nationwide quarantine has been issued, and none will be needed if everyone takes this seriously now, right now, this very second. I still hear far too many people using the “hysteria and panic” rationalization for doing little or nothing. It is also useful to know that the mortality rate in South Korea is one-third of the level in Italy, and that’s because they’ve been testing like mad in Korea. Our response has been a lot more like Italy than Korea so our outcome is likely going to be more like Italy than Korea. And how did that happen, I wonder?
I live in Illinois. Last week or governor came out, giving all of the same warnings as many other politicians or health officials. Warning of gatherings, saying to stay home, etc..
Two days ago, every jacka** crowded into downtown Chicago to get drunk and party for St. Patrick’s Day. Go ahead and google it and see the pictures of people crammed together on crowded streets, arms around each other. If even one of these people is contagious, imagine how that is going to spread. Sometimes intense measures that shouldn’t be necessary become necessary because of selfish idiots.
I really hope it doesn’t end in a nationwide quarantine, but if it comes to it then I hope that those in power make it happen at the right time. I think a lot of people don’t realize how truly bad it is in Italy right now
Yeah, but… toilet paper!
Sorry. The irresponsibility of some people is really getting me down.
Here in California the governor requested yesterday that everyone 65 or older or otherwise at risk stay home as much as possible.
2 weeks ago at CostCo (before they completely ran out of TP) I saw a guy with one of those orange flatbed dollies they have. About 4′ long by 2.5′ wide. Thing was completely stacked with toilet paper. I don’t care how big the family was it had to be at least a one year supply but probably more like two. Maybe even three. I saw another dolly just like it loaded with bottled water and several regular CostCo jumbo shopping carts loaded with bottled water. Sanitizer and wipes long gone. The lines were 3X Christmas. It was unbelievable. Deep red state. Strong prepper mentality. I had the usual. About 1/3 of a cart.
I wonder if that whole TP thing started out as some kind of joke that snowballed or if it was just spontaneous panic. It is such a strange thing to fixate on. Worst come to worst, there are a ton of potential ways to combat a lack of TP at home. Meanwhile, there are plenty of other irreplaceable items that are important to have if you are locked up for a month or two and those aren’t being treated as a priority it seems. So Strange.
I have a theory as to why so many younger people (I’m 32, still young!) aren’t treating this seriously. We have lived through other outbreaks like sars, swine flu, bird flu that never ended up being as widely spread or deadly as initially feared (in the US at least). So at this point, many just treat it as another one of those outbreaks that won’t affect _them_, and they assume the media is just trying to create panic for fun or profit.
My boss bought $1500 of military food and several guns. Things are ridiculous
But a lot of those TP people may have been flipping it. I just read a story of some dudes who bought 18000 hoping to flip them on Amazon for a huge markup before Amazon shut them down and the gov’t started investigating them
I’m not sure a quarantine would cause mass hysteria, especially since it would likely have exceptions for things like food and pharmaceuticals. But most people have already prepared for a quarantine.
Yeah that’s just jerkism. Fortunately I don’t believe a lot of people are behaving quite that stupidly, but when you walk into a store and find them wiped out of something it feeds a shortage mentality even in someone who doesn’t lean towards that way of thinking. The good news is the hoarders won’t be back to the stores to buy or overbuy any time soon, and the suppliers will catch up eventually.
Just want to point out that one reason Italy is a hot spot right now is that they didn’t react strongly enough, soon enough.
The other thing is that about 1/3 of the cases are aged 20-29, although many carry the disease but aren’t showing symptoms. Children mostly don’t show symptoms either, though these groups are still infectious and can infect others.
Each infected person can infect 2 to 2.5 others, and the only way to control this right now (there is no treatment) is to limit personal contact as much as possible. Thus, most large gatherings have been cancelled, but is still a personal responsibility to self isolate as much as possible.
Over the years, I have seen us become more self centered on our outlooks. That may explain some of the strange behaviors such as business as usual, or hoarding things like TP (now it’s milk & bread). IMHO, a lot of this has to do with the erosion of purchasing power, job security, social supports and so on that leave us with little choice but to look after ourselves first and to H–= with everybody else.
BTW, here in the Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia, we have set up a Facebook group – Caremongering (instead of scaremongering) to pool resources and help those that will be needing it.
Those tp people are the same dumb people that dont wipe and don’t wash their hands
Manfred the genius speaks again….
The season is not stating in July, that’d be absolutely ridiculous. These doomsday later and later tweets are just irresponsible.
The soonest baseball season will resume is July don’t see it happening anytime sooner. That leaves about 100 games to play.
Entering full doomer mode. There’s not gunna be a 2020 season
What about MiLB players? Will they get living allowances as well? Due to their much lower wages, they are the most vulnerable amongst players. And what about stadium staffing and behind the scenes personnel who make far less than MLB players? Will they be paid? The logistics of this entire pandemic shutdown is mind boggling. It seems this is a situation for which few, if any, have contingency plans.
I don’t think there’s a league-wide plan in place for those workers. The Bulls have agreed to pay stadium workers and team personnel through the end of the regular season. Since Reinsdorf owns both the Bulls and White Sox, it suggests the White Sox will do the same. I don’t believe the league can require this of owners, though, especially as lost revenue for 60+ games would probably make for a losing season for most clubs.
These minor league players can make a relative fortune right now working in the delivery service.
Service jobs change all the time. They are in demand.
In my youth, I was a service job employee. I don’t think I’d have any trouble finding a job in this market.
Aside from delivery drivers and a few retail sectors like groceries I’ll bet there are a lot of service jobs being cut, especially by small business owners seeing their businesses dry up. There are much smaller crowds at theaters and restaurants for example. What’s happening at baseball stadiums is happening a lot of other places to the service sector you point to as the savior. I don’t believe this is going to be a booming economy even for the service industry and the market on Wall Street seems to have the same view.
Aren’t minor leaguers and stadium personnel eligible for unemployment?
Unemployment is only a partial payment of your income. These people are fairly low earners as it is. The minor leaguers without fat signing bonuses are about as screwed as your local displaced retail employee.
I would be very surprised if the players were paid a full salary if they don’t have a season. Of course I can’t feel sorry for the poor babies, the ave. salary is over $1.6MM.
I think this is stupid.
I’m not saying that we need to start on April 9th, but what’s the harm in taking it week by week?
Like, shut it down and keep re-evaluating. If you shut down until July and the one-two month trajectory that we saw in China reigns true, then we have two to three months without baseball for absolutely no reason other than the fact that Rob Manfred has no clue how to manage crises.
This situation aside, I think Rob Manfred’s incompetence rivals Roger Goodell
I agree with you. The shutdown until April 9 made sense and sucks, but I get it. I can even get on board with starting May 1. Canceling all of May and June in March sounds a bit alarmist to me.
Isn’t that what they’re doing? It says some owners speculate that the season might not start until July, not that they’re locking things down until then. The only official thing said was the obvious, that the season won’t start April 9th.
They canceled until April 9th. That’s all that Manfred did here. That’s 3 weeks from now. Baseball isn’t going to be played 3 weeks from now—that’s an eminently safe call. You can’t even go to a bar in the state of Maryland for the next 2 weeks.
Those projecting in June are giving you their realistic time projection at this point.
there is already one confirmed minor leaguer found to be infected. we don’t know if he was in big league camp or not. if he were, there will be some big leaguers with virus. plus there are ball park workers. imagine if that is mike trout. he plays games at mlb parks and go home to his pregnant wife!
what does this have to do with Mike Trout?
i dont agree with your assessment of the trajectory. too much is unsure to assume it will happen the same way here.
Things change weekly.
32 hundred reported cases in Italy so far today. They had their first case a week after we had our first case.
We can be like Italy or be like South Korea. Zero cases today.
It just depends on how smart we are, and no one knows if our citizens will be smart of act idiotically. Right now they seem to be acting like idiots.
Follow the Leader!
That’s what they’re doing. No one is suggesting that the next step is going to be to jump from April 9 to July 1. Nightengale’s report just includes speculation from multiple GMs based on conversations they’ve had with ownership, the league, etc.
Everyone hopes this will be resolved sooner than later. I’d imagine we’ll be delayed in two- to three-week increments for awhile as the league and union continue to consult with health experts.
Have to factor in the “re-boot” time, too.
Since Dr. Fauchi has said this is going to get worse, it’s obvious that the season can’t start in March or April. Why tell people it’s week to week when it’s clearly month to month? It’s better to say July than it is to make a projection that’s unrealistic. If we think July and it starts in June we’ll be happy. If it doesn’t start until July it will be what we expected. If they say week to week and it’s doesn’t start until July people will be frustrated with unmet expectations.
Take it easy Phillies2017 Manfred is doing what the CDC and WHO recommend for the safety of players and fans. Let’s just be safe and figure July will be opening day.
This sucks. I’ve heard some people postulate about games in front of 0 fans to start. I’d be ok with that (and I’m sure the owners would prefer that to losing all of the revenue for those games). I imagine a lot of the players would rather be out there, too.
I wonder what affect this will have on arbitration hearings next year. If it takes some of these guys a little while to ramp up, they might have worse numbers over the course of a shortened season than they would over a full year, when they have time to course correct. Conversely, a guy who has a great start could get a bigger raise than otherwise. I also wonder what they’ll do with the service clock, since nobody will be able to accumulate a full year under the current rule. Guessing that will start two weeks after the start of the season (whenever that is), but haven’t heard anything definite about it.
How can they play with no fans in attendance, dah, that’s plain stupid. No revenues for the owners, where’s the motivation for the players? Dumb idea
My idea to playing a 162 game season= expand roster to between 30-35 players and play double headers whenever there’s a 2 and 4 series. 2 game series in 1 day and 4 game series in 2 days.
Players will never go for it. Plus, it would give a huge advantage to teams with a deeper farm system. Owners would love all the revenue, I’m sure, but I’m guessing the season will be 120 games, if the owners are lucky.
I agree. No chance of 162 games this year. Wouldn’t expanding the rosters and playing doubleheader’s also kickstart service time? Won’t that also produce more injuries and time off for regulars? There’s not enough pitching in most farms to make games competitive either IMO. Also, playing regular season in October/Nov in a lot of climates isn’t feasible. If they do that, then the off-season is only like 3 months or less. So many factors outside of just expanding rosters to think about.
Nice idea, but that would hurt MLB in so many ways. Just for starters…
1) pitchers putting too much work in a short period of time
2) guys playing in MLB that should not be playing in MLB (dear gosh)
3) payrolls increase
4) guys that are really spot 27 to 35 now are eligible for various things like the clock starting to arbitration and free agency, MLB minimum wage, etc.
5) season being impacted in ways that were not part of past seasons – non-MLB talent impacting wins and losses, teams able to play well for less months than how they would’ve performed over several, teams with deeper MiLB being able to match the best teams who don’t have MiLB depth, etc.
Many things can go wrong.
And what happens if multiple real MLB players get hurt and teams like say the Marlins and the Orioles play well for the short period and meet in the World Series? Do we put an asterisk next to that champion?
I vote that MLBTradeRumours staffers get MLB The Show and play out a full season for us via livestream.
Agreed!
really what should happen is each team is quarantined for 2 weeks and during that time they all play the regularly scheduled games on The Show.
Maybe we’ll start testing people for the virus eventually. Somehow … incredible as it seems … almost no one in our country has been tested thus far. Can’t stop it w/o quarantine. Can’t really quarantine w/o testing.
where are you getting that from? people are being tested, there are just not that many tests to go around.
The testing rate in the U.S. is pathetic. South Korea is testing more people every day than we’ve tested in the last two weeks. That’s why they are getting on top of the situation and we’re just standing in the road and hoping we don’t get run over.
Watching a live news conference in Canada with our government ministers – aka the cabinet. Canada has performed 25,000 tests to date. The USA 23,000. The US has 10x the population…
The issue is the infection rate in the US is likely much higher as they are not reported if they are not tested.
Canada just shut the border to non-Canadians with the exception of permanent residents and Americans. That means if the Jays go on a road trip, for example, several of their players won’t be able to return to Canada – Vladdy Jr is one.
I love baseball as much as the next person, but we aren’t going to see a game before Memorial Day, and I’d put money on July 4th.
The PM’s wife has the Coronavirus. The borders should have been shut down days ago.
Vlad Jr was born in Montreal. I’m sure he’ll be allowed to return to Canada after a road trip.
If you are not sick and follow the simple rules of hygiene, you do not need to be tested!
it really isnt that simple…
Many people do not shower every day. Most people do not wash their hands with water AND soap for 20 SECONDS. Most people do not wash their light switches and door handles on a routine basis. Most people do not wash the steering wheel and window and lock switches in their cars. I could go on. The point is that while hygiene has no doubt improved, most people are still lacking in the hygiene necessary to thoroughly prevent infection.. Moreover, it’s not just hygiene, it’s social distancing–avoiding close contact to prevent the spread.
For all these reasons, we should be broadly testing. From the experience of other countries, it is safe to assume that many, many people have coronavirus but have not been tested and identified. I would even guess that there are more cases of unidentified / uncounted coronavirus than there are confirmed (about 4,100). There are no doubt many people with a low grade virus who have either not identified it or who are looking to let it run its course on their own, with or without isolating. These people should all be given instructions for self-quarantining.
So broad testing is IMHO advantageous.
It’s more than advantageous, it’s essential. The level of testing in South Korea has proved it. Are we going to learn from that? I don’t see much evidence of that and it could be too late already. The level of infection in the U.S. could easily be ten times the reported number if only because we are only testing people who are already ill, and far from all of them.
Fox471, your statement is dangerously incorrect and misinformed.
Without testing, you don’t know you’re “sick” if you don’t have symptoms, but not everyone infected with COVID-19 will show symptoms. Also, some people who are infected will not show symptoms right away. Ruby Gobert, for example, might not have known he was infected without a test; by all accounts I’ve read, he feels fine.
You can be asymptomatic and still be a carrier, which means you can feel fine, have no idea you have the virus, and infect vulnerable people who will become debilitatingly sick or die.
Loved the comment about how MLB Owners “are still hoping to enjoy the revenue of a full 162-game season.” I, too, am hoping to enjoy the full revenue I might have earned if this had not happened. My guess is that my chance to do so is quite a bit less than the owners.
Right? I work in a sports bar and while it hasn’t been closed yet I’m wondering if I’ll able to get another week in before it does. This sucks too cuz my wife and I are supposed to move into a new house on Friday. We have no idea what will happen.
You’re somewhat fortunate at this point. If that bar was in MD—you’d already be off for the next 2 weeks.
More that I don’t know how players’ contracts are structured, but if they were set to make $30m in 2020, does that salary get prorated if they don’t play 162 games or are contracts structured specifically so that the player makes $30m and that the per game/week/month amount just increases because of less games/shorter season? E.g. if they only play 145 games, does the player only make $27m? If so, would the luxury tax threshold also get prorated?
i cant imagine it works out to the players making the same ammount of money. less games = less revenue = less money to be paid to players. keeping 2020 saleries the same will kill the short contract this coming offseason.
There won’t be a 2020 season in any sport.
If this was not an election year, none of this would be happening. H1N1 killed over 18,000 and no one batted an eye. COVID-19 probably won’t kill 1,000 and everyone goes crazy. I wonder why?!?!
This comment is not only ignorant, it is dangerously ignorant.
Not really. It points out the discrepancies between media coverage. The media scared people into buying toilet paper over non-perishables. The casualties from H1N1 were severe, and Lavey is pointing that out. The US leader presiding over H1N1 did a poor job handling the situation.
Really, and completely. If the media you are watching and reading is showing you pictures of people hoarding toilet paper and not telling you about what is happening in Italy then you need to read and watch something else.
Yep. Have to agree with BlueSkies all the way here. There’s absolutely no point in arguing over how prior diseases were handled. There’s enough minimization going on around here. Statements like that will be interpreted as a minimization of the corona virus—whether you intended that way or not.
Just because you don’t understand what is happening, doesn’t make my comment ignorant.
@lavey
“Just because you don’t understand what is happening”
What’s happening is you’re trying to second guess the experts, do your own analysis, draw your own conclusions and present them as superior to the conclusions of the experts. But you’re not an expert, you’re just a guy drawing your own conclusions. And the experts disagree. Clearly your analysis and conclusions are wrong. I’ll go with the experts.
The elites that own all the mainstream media outlets are going to tell you what they want you to hear. All “news” is filtered through them. You will only know the official version of each story, and only what they want you to know. It’s hard to believe that in this day and age this has to be explained to otherwise smart people.
I think the media overreacting is a blessing in disguise. It’s scaring people into staying home, and stop the spreading of the virus. But I hate the people that are fighting over toilet paper though, that’s idiotic. In fact, the other day we were in the store, and a 90 y/o was grabbing bleach off a shelf and a 20 y/o ran by and snatched it from her and said “You don’t need this.”. WHY? That’s so rude and stupid.
TLDR: Stay home as much as possible, don’t fight over Charmin, and this will all be over in the next few months.
Toilet paper is not the story.
If you really need baseball
Get mlb the show. Computer vs computer difficult mode sit back and watch your favorite team.
What’s the best platform for MLB The Show? PlayStation, XBox, ?? Due to the virus outage I’m finally seriously considering a purchase of the platform and game.
PS4 is only one that carries it I think
Thanks.
I’ve been off of playing video games after college…. But I’m fairly certain that MLB the show is only for PlayStation. It was my favorite game back in those days. The show 08, I believe with Phillies/Rays WS was the initial game I had gotten. I doubt the exclusivity to PlayStation has changed.
Only ps4, but in 2021 it is going to Xbox and Nintendo.
When do you have to type? I just saw the interface for typing (no keyboard; pretty much like typing on a tv; worse than typing on a phone) and that stinks. It would drive me crazy. Does MLB The Show allow for fictional leagues, teams, players that you can “build” from the ground up? If so that would require a lot of typing without a keyboard entering all those names.
have you never played a sports video game? They’re going to randomly generate prospects and names for your minor league systems.
No, just baseball Mogul (PC). I know what you’re talking about. In Baseball Mogul you can create fictional leagues, teams and players from the ground up. Define all the characteristics, abilities and talents of each player on each team in each league. Fictional. Baseball Mogul has that as an intriguing feature. Problem is the software is too buggy and it doesn’t seem to be a priority for the company anymore.
Avalon Hill StatisPro Baseball FTW! Old school!
I think this was the ’85 edition: a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0726/grant_e_statspro_576…
Wow, AH, that is old school. I didn’t have this game but I owned a lot of their other board games.
I followed the folks at mvpmods with their considerable total conversions and rosters of course for over ten years. Sadly, the only editors now are in Spanish only.
Pretty sure the original ea mvp2005 cd is still like $300 if you can find it.
@lavey Well, you’ve whiffed on the probably won’t kill 1000 thing, because according to worldometer, there are currently 7071 deaths.
Why dont we all listen to the scientists, the health officials and doctors. Not some conspiracy theories. 263 died on 1 day in italy. That’s alarming
All the Ski Resorts in Utah closed yesterday, about 5-6 weeks early. Snowbird, Alta, Brighton, Solitude, Park City, Deer Valley… They were having a great year in terms of powder, snow pack, skiers, etc. Huge economic impact. Tons of foregone fun. Had friends who arrived Saturday for a week, never got to ski; went home to MA today. What a shame.
I honestly think this season is done. 2020 is a bust.
It’d be disappointing not to have a baseball season, but there are far worse things. If we get a lid on this, and not another sports game is played this year, that’s a win. If we get a lid on this, and sports return in the near future, that’s a bonus.
April 2021
MLB cannot go against the CDC edict. Once they said no gatherings of over 50 people for the next 8 weeks, all MLB could do is do the same.
As of now the soonest regular season can start is May 12th. That does not mean spring training cannot start earlier and it probably will, just with no fans allowed in. Even if camp is not reopened until then, Memorial Day weekend is a great time to get fans back for MLB games.
As with any flu every winter, the only people we need to worry about are the elderly, the very young, and those people with compromised immune or respiratory systems. The cure rate for this virus is higher than 99%. Once the weather turns warm consistently, this virus will go away like all of them do.
Having said that, everyone should take steps to protect those vulnerable people, by making sure they are kept away from crowds, etc. I saw doctors on the news this morning saying the treatment for this virus is to use over the counter cold meds and to drink fluids. Also, they said that if you catch the virus once, you won’t get it again. Despite what social media tells us, we’ll survive this and 99% of us will be fine.
“Social media” isn’t telling you anything but you are certainly picking up some misinformation. This virus has no “cure” and no “treatment,” it has only a recovery. Drinking fluids and taking OTC cold meds is the recommendation for all virus infections, from the common cold to the flu. Yes the vast majority of people will recover from this virus as most do from nearly all virus infections, and as is the case with all other viruses, you probably won’t get it again once you’ve had it. No guarantees there either, though, because viruses are very handy at mutating, and don’t be so sure that it will go away with warmer weather.
But none of this is the real issue. The issue is it spreads very quickly, especially because so many are asymptomatic, and if only one percent of the people who catch it need hospitalization the healthcare system will NOT be able to withstand the strain if that happens quickly. If you don’t believe it, read about what is happening in Italy.
Also, one peculiarity of this virus is it has virtually no impact on the very young. Nobody seems to know why yet.
Watch Highwire by Del Bigtree. Also, no one happier than the houston Astros when it comes to the delayed start.
So.much panic over nothing. The media hyped this up so much everyone thinks they’re gonna die. If the washed their hand like theyrd suppose to they would need to spend 100$ on TP.
This nonsense will be over early May and Manfred will look foolish.
You are so lost
Its not gonna be July. It will be memorial day at the latest. Hopefully sooner. We’re still 19 fast from April 9th. Theres no reason to keep pushing it back by a month for each update of when the season will start.
19 days from april 9th*