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Griffin Canning To Receive “Biological Injections”

By Jeff Todd | March 6, 2020 at 4:12pm CDT

Angels righty Griffin Canning will receive “biological injections” to treat his ailing elbow, the team announced and MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger was among those to cover on Twitter. The team says he’ll be “reassessed in three to four weeks.”

This news still leaves some mystery as to the underlying condition and to Canning’s outlook. But it confirms that he’ll be sidelined for a lengthy stretch, as had already become clear of late.

Clearly there’s still hope of avoiding an invasive procedure. But the Halos will assuredly need to bring Canning along cautiously even if these injections prove effective. It’ll be hard for the team to presume much of anything about his availability in 2020.

Canning had a strong debut showing in 2019 but ended the season earlier with elbow woes. Unfortunately, they followed him into camp.

While the Halos did add two notable arms to their rotation, trading for Dylan Bundy and signing Julio Teheran, the rotation remains an area of weakness on paper. The Angels do have some options on hand, but they’ll need a few hurlers to establish or reestablish themselves as quality big league starters. For what it’s worth, they’ve shown well collectively to this point in camp, as Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register notes on Twitter.

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  1. GOP Lizards

    5 years ago

    Stripling in a Halo uni would look pretty good right now.

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      David, stripping would have looked good a month ago.

      However, I still don’t know the cost and I’m still glad Pederson is not wearing an Angel uniform.

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      • Senioreditor

        5 years ago

        The cost was a few prospects and Pederson will be fine. They needed Stripling and none of their lower level prospects is anywhere as good as Stripling.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          What Prospects?

          As far as Pederson being fine, do you think he’d be happy sitting on the bench? Yes, he’s a better 4th outfielder than Goodwin, but I’d rather save the prospects, the roster spot and the money.

          I’d LOVE to have Stripling. Pederson… not so much.

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          Why are people so dumb? LAD got him over 450 at bats vs right handed pitchers and he crushed. You’re relying on a guy who was DFA’d a year ago to magically replicate his success. More likely he becomes a Pumpkin again. Joc would be the 3rd or 4th best hitter in Anaheim

          And stripling your ace. What’s that say about LAD vs LAA? Lmao

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          Why are you so dumb? You’re comparing him to Goodwin.

          Adell is not going to sit and they are not gong to keep him in the PCL. Why is that so difficult to understand?

          Striping would not be the Angels ace. You can say Stripling might be the most healthy Angel pitcher, but he’s not close to the most talented.

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        • bush1

          5 years ago

          Stripling is better than Bundy and Teheran. Ohtani has as much talent as anyone but isn’t pitching until mid May, and with his hitting who knows how that effects his pitching. The Angels pitching is pretty awful for a team that’s trying to win.

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          Adell struck out 34% in the PCL! That’s like 40%+ in the majors. If you think he’s going to come up and have an OPS above 700, you’re going to be calling him a bust real soon

          He needs time in AAA. Who cares if he had 100 bad at bats?

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          And Ohtani is the only one who is more talented than Stripling, but coming off TJS, Strip absolutely could Be the ace of that team

          The rest are hopes are prayers they’re better than before

          How delusional are you?

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          Common, you don’t know how to evaluate pitchers then. Look at swinging strike rate and contact pct in the strike zone. Those are two great indicators. You can easily find them on fangraphs.

          Canning and Heaney are easily more talented.

          Teheran has been getting it done for years.

          Bundy has two elite pitchers, but he also has a crummy fastball. So we can argue that.

          And Stripling is older than all of them.

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        • ryanw-2

          5 years ago

          Why are you asking people why they’re so dumb when you’re using Stripling and ace in the same sentence? Stripling is a swing man. A very effective swing man. But that’s as a swing man. What about 32 starts and 180 innings? He’s never done it. But JC Ramirez has. Stripling would be another on a long list of maybe’s in the Angels’ rotation.

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        • ryanw-2

          5 years ago

          Correction: JC Ramirez was the wrong example. Andrew Heaney was what I meant to point out.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          Let’s get something clear… I would have LOVED to have Stripling. But the hyperbole following him is just that.

          Stripling has been better than Bundy. But Stripling is older and has never thrown 125 innings.

          No way has he been better than Teheran. He may have more talent than Teheran, has a track record.

          And flat out he does not have more talent than Canning, Heaney or Othani.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT ADELL DID IN THE PCL!!!!!!! HE’S NOT STAYING THERE. They are not going to keep Adell out of the line up for Pederson. Deal with it!!!!!! Baseball America has him 3rd. Baseball Prospectus has him 2nd.

          Also after the PCL was the AFL and the Olympic Trials. Why don’t you people completely ignore that. If the Angels were not going to manipulate his service time, he’d be the opening day RF.

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        • bush1

          5 years ago

          Canning is likely to never matter this year. Dream on that. Good luck with Bundy, and Teheran couldn’t even earn a roster spot on Atlanta’s post season roster and was healthy. He’ll get lit up in the AL.

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        • bush1

          5 years ago

          Everyone, lights up the PCL, especially last yr. SO, YEAH IT DOES MATTER when a top prospect doesn’t do that well there.

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        • fred-3

          5 years ago

          Heaney may have good stuff, but he’s yet to put it together. Brett Tomko had great stuff, but was always a bad pitcher. The only pitcher better than Stripling is Ohtani and a healthy Canning.

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        • Geno55

          5 years ago

          You can find pitchers like Ross stripling there a dine a doze
          What’s all the hype about a pitcher with a losing record

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          Canning is out.

          Tereren wasn’t on the post season roster… SO!!! Are we arguing he should have… over who? He wasn’t coming out of the pen. It’s irrelevant.

          He’s going to get lit up by the AL, why? I had no idea the AL was so much better.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          NO… it doesn’t matter. You people are completely missing it. He’s not going to sit in the PCL for Pederson. DUH!!!!

          It doesn’t matter if you think Pederson is better. Again… Irrelevant. They are not going to let him sit in the PCL… period.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          Fred, that’s very true. Heaney may never come around. High ceiling doesn’t mean a thing other than it’s something that might happen.

          Stripling has never pitched more than 125 innings, and although he has a low ceiling, he has a high floor.

          I wish he was an Angel.

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        • Vizionaire

          5 years ago

          ha, as if cubs matter!

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        • Senioreditor

          5 years ago

          Dime a dozen??? The Angels haven’t produced his equivalent in years.

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        • prov356

          5 years ago

          bush1 – “and with his hitting who knows how that effects his pitching”

          Hitting and pitching is not new for Ohtani. He’s done it his whole career so hitting won’t affect his pitching negatively.

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        • Geno55

          5 years ago

          Ross stripling Trade following through is no big deal in my eyes I’m not losing no sleep

          Yawning

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          5 years ago

          Pederson is in his last year of arbitration and Adell is not ready to play in MLB this season (save for a Sept call up), so Pederson would be a perfect 1 year addition as a platoon OF with Goodwin vs. RHPs. It’s hard to know why Arte nixed this deal, unless he thought one of the prospects being asked for were too valuable to give up. Both Stripling and Pederson would be huge additions to this team. I still can’t tell if they trying to make the playoffs this year or if they are just trying to show some improvement to build off of for a 2021 run. One thing is for sure, even though he is the #3 prospect in all of baseball, Adell is not ready for the majors let (just like the Tampa SS who is ranked #1). He needs to fix his strikeout issue and find his power stroke in the minors.

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          Stripling had an identical era and FIP, and his FIP in 19 was identical to Jack Flaherty. In 2018, he was nearly 30% better than the league

          Bundy and Tehran can’t hold down 5th spots in a rotation Year over year for contenders, and are currently 1-2 in the angels rotation

          Claiming stripling is bad because he’s on a deep team like the dodgers yet produces fantastic results- including long stints in the rotation as needed- is really naive

          And finally, when your top prospect sucks in the PCL, it’s bad news. He’s not MLB ready. Joc is an 850-900 OPS, 35 home run bat who can play all 3 OF spots. You guys wonder why your team has sucked for so long, it’s a long season. You need more than 3 OFers. Currently trout the god, upton can’t stay healthy, and Goodwin is a year off being DFA’d. Your top prospect can’t make contact in the PCL. your OF is one upton re-tweak from being a joke

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          Also, you miss Gavin Lux spending an entire season in aaa for LAD?

          You’re really naive to think he’s ready. That’s how you ruin prospects. Run em out to hit 220 with a 40+K rate in the majors. Good long term help

          Plus, what an add to the lineup! Why would he suddenly do better than he did in the PCL? He sucked bro. Wake up

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        • Soro8011

          5 years ago

          You realize Goodwin is a lefty to right?

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        • wordonthestreet

          5 years ago

          Wow you keep relying on Strippling being older in evaluating this years staff and you claim others do not know how to evaluate pitching?

          Strippling is not old and further being older than the others does not make him old nor is it relevant as to whether or not Strippling would be the ace of the staff or not.

          Bottom line. Angels reneging on the trade that would have landing them Strippling and Pedersen was the dumbest decision of the off season.

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        • wordonthestreet

          5 years ago

          Oh my lord. Now you claim the Angels should not have obtained Strippling because Pedersen was included as though Adell is going to screwed?

          Pedersen is a free agent after this year. He is not blocking Adell and if Adell comes up later and taked Pedersens job so what

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        • wordonthestreet

          5 years ago

          Halo11Fan feeling the heat!

          It are the one missing the point and all the points!

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        • OtisSnord

          5 years ago

          Bingo. “Which prospects?” is precisely the question, and nobody knows the answer. Therefore, nobody can say whether it would have been a good trade or not.

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          Otis, the angel system sucks. If it wasn’t Adell or Marsh- and it wasn’t per reports we have- they should have done the deal

          And I’m a dodger fan

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        • GeoKaplan

          5 years ago

          @Common—You’re free to define “ace” any way you want to, but anyone who follows the game at even a casual level would never call a pitcher who can’t throw more than 120 IP in a season an “ace”.

          Stripling would be nice depth, but the irrational love affair some here have with him is baffling.

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          I said he’s the ace on the team. Aka likely to put up the best numbers of their 5 guys, especially becuase I don’t expect any pitcher coming back from TJS to be the same year 1

          I never said he’s an ace level pitcher. He would be the ace of their team. Learn to read before you get all bent out of shape

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        • John Egan

          5 years ago

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        • Heemel

          5 years ago

          Arte is the smartest man in Baseball, jut ask him.

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    • seth3120

      5 years ago

      The Angels could sure use someone. Maeda would have been decent hes a guy that belongs in a rotation he just happened to be on a team stacked with starters until the Twins swung a deal for him. All due respect to Angels fans I gotta say a lot of them on here are at least glass half full kind of guys if not just plain bullish. Ohtani is a stud but after TJS who knows. I also can’t understand how the guy had tjs in 2018 and hit for all of 2019 and still isn’t ready to start out of the gate in 2020. I swear sometimes teams hold guys back just to say they’re being cautious. They need Ohtani and they need him in a bad way. Like a lot of teams if some things go just right they could be in the thick of it but if I was a betting man I’d say too much has to go right that’s unlikely to. Make whatever excuse you want for not getting a mid-top of the rotation starter but truth be told they just didn’t get it done when others did. They needed quality starters about as bad as any team in baseball and they got a bunch of cross your fingers guys. Maybe they outperform projections but on paper it doesn’t look promising. But they can mash and play defense I’ll give them that. Rendon was a good get I just think it’s hard to win that way

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      • Jbigz12

        5 years ago

        Lot of arguing here. But Bundy looks tremendous this Spring. Mickey Callaway is a hell of a pitching coach. Bundy can miss bats with the best of them despite his relatively weak heater (post surgery) it’s a real shame he didn’t come back with the same fastball he had before surgery because he really did have that potential TOR stuff.

        Bundy could very well be a solid arm for the Halos this year.

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        • Javia

          5 years ago

          Bundy looks tremendous this spring? Guess who is hitting over .400 with 3-HR this spring? Wil Myers. Do you think I should bet big that he is going to be a middle of the order monster this year? Spring means nothing. Bundy’s lifetime results are below average. He really hasn’t shown any indication that he will be any different than that this year.

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        • prov356

          5 years ago

          Javia – Bundy does look good this spring. Remember that Bundy was also on the well below average Orioles. A good line-up providing run support to their starter can make a big difference in a pitcher’s performance level.

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        • AssumeFactsNotInEvidence

          5 years ago

          The Orioles are the worst team at developing pitching in baseball. Congratulations Javia you have proven yourself to be a complete clown once again!

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      • Heemel

        5 years ago

        Yeah, and forgotten is Tyler Skaggs. His life snuffed out by illegal drugs supplied by an employee who works in the Front Office. Moreno has hired law firms to intimidate the media. Why? Tyler is dead.

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        • prov356

          5 years ago

          Heemel – I considered Skaggs the future of the rotation. But with all due respect to Skaggs, he chose to take the drugs. Personal responsibility is still a thing.

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  2. Bosin Rag

    5 years ago

    Finally, the Tommy John vaccine

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  3. trendysayings

    5 years ago

    holy guacamole just get this TJS over with, if they do it now he might be able to contribute to next year’s team

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    • alt2tab

      5 years ago

      Why go under a major procedure to fix a torn ligament when he doesn’t have a torn ligament?

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      • Halo11Fan

        5 years ago

        alt2tab.

        They shut him down 7 months ago. However they address this, they have already wasted 7 months.

        This isn’t the first time the Angels pitchers have hoped the issue would go away only to find out the delay ended up costing these guys hundreds of innings.

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        • alt2tab

          5 years ago

          Whatever the previous cases were for other pitchers on the team really doesn’t change the fact that his ligament isn’t torn.

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        • bkbkbkbk

          5 years ago

          They don’t know the issue, I don’t understand how everyone on this thread knows more than the doctors.

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        • jimmyz

          5 years ago

          Including yourself?

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          alt2tab
          No matter how you want to look at this, seven months have gone by and no progress has been made. Canning is going to be shut down for another month and even after 8 months I doubt we’ll have any answers.

          They’ve already screwed this up. Even if this solution is the right solution, why wait 7 months?

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        • alt2tab

          5 years ago

          I disagree w/ your premise that progress wasn’t made. Canning sat the end of last season and was able to have a regular off-season. Just because he re-injured his elbow doesn’t mean the wrong approach was taken. And saying he should now get TJS as a form of preventative medicine is just ignorant.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          alt2tab
          I don’t want to get in a battle with you. But I would you should at least acknowledge what I’m saying.

          He’s been shut down for 7 months, if “Biological Injections” is the right treatment, why 7 months? He didn’t re-injure his elbow. It’s been bad for seven months.

          As far as needing TJ, I’m not saying he needs TJ, but on whether he needs TJ or not, or surgery or not, we are both “ignorant”.

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        • bush1

          5 years ago

          “Canning was recently diagnosed with both UCL and joint issues in his pitching elbow”. Teams are always ultra vague with elbow damage. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that this dude is way more likely than not to need surgery to remain healthy and effective for a decent amount of time.

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        • alt2tab

          5 years ago

          Except he hasn’t been shut down for 7 months. He was shut down for the last couple months of the season and then had a normal throwing program in the off-season

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          alt2tab
          You sure? He’s been throwing all off season and then it pops up after 2 innings in spring training.

          I don’t know, but it doesn’t seem likely to me he’s been “throwing” for seven months. Playing catch is not throwing. But I don’t know.

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        • alt2tab

          5 years ago

          Each pitcher’s throwing program is different but generally most just play catch/long-toss in Nov/Dec. and then start throwing progressive bullpen sessions in Jan. I’m guessing that’s along the lines of what Canning did since they said he would have a normal off-season.

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        • Heemel

          5 years ago

          You will learn that when Arte Moreno, a non athlete, non Baseball player makes EVERY Baseball decision, bad things happen. The Stripling deal is a perfect example. Billy Eppler IS a Baseball guy. Let him do his job. Instead, Billy, is just another goon pushing papers, attending meetings.

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  4. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    stalling for TJ

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      Darkside, based on past history, that’s exactly what it looks like.

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  5. Halo11Fan

    5 years ago

    So he’s weeks away from throwing. I hope he doesn’t need surgery, but I’ve heard this all before.

    For the Angels, this usually results in months being wasted waiting for the inevitable. Right now he’s been in limbo for 7 months.

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    • Javia

      5 years ago

      WTF! Things just keep getting murkier and murkier. Canning is getting “biological injections” because everybody knows that PRP injections are a prelude to Tommy John. And Chris Sale has a “strained flexor tendon” and no “new” damage to his UCL. 10 to 1 says they will both be getting TJ surgery within the year.

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  6. whyhayzee

    5 years ago

    The griffin, griffon, or gryphon is a legendary creature with the body, tail, and back legs of a lion; the head and wings of an eagle; and sometimes an eagle’s talons as its front feet.
    Canning is a method of preserving food in which the food contents are processed and sealed in an airtight container. Canning provides a shelf life typically ranging from one to five years, although under specific circumstances it can be much longer.
    Biologic drugs, or “biologics,” are given by injection (shot) or intravenous (IV) infusion (a slow drip of medicine into your vein). A biologic is a protein-based drug derived from living cells cultured in a laboratory. … Biologics only target specific parts of the immune system.

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    • jkinser20

      5 years ago

      What was the point of this

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    • Eat'EmUpTigers

      5 years ago

      I want what you’re smoking……

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      5 years ago

      So these biologic injections are code for the Angels cloning and canning a flying lion so their manager can use it within 1-5 years of the canning process…got it.

      I’ll have what he’s having!

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  7. drgntrnr

    5 years ago

    Ew.

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  8. Eat'EmUpTigers

    5 years ago

    Biological injections? So multiple injections…..scratch him off my fantasy baseball list.

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  9. Philliesfan4life

    5 years ago

    Anyone notice how good Bundy has been this spring?

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      Anyone notice how good all the Angels starters have looked this spring? It’s is not just Bundy.

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      • Philliesfan4life

        5 years ago

        They have been great , Callaway is making a huge impact on this pitching staff.

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        • Heemel

          5 years ago

          Mike Butcher was a beer drinking buddy of Arte Moreno, which is why he was around so long.

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      • drgntrnr

        5 years ago

        It’s also spring training, outside of fringey guys fighting for a starting spot, the stats don’t matter.

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    • angelsinthetroutfield

      5 years ago

      4TDs in one game!

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    • lowtalker1

      5 years ago

      Didn’t the padres crush them 8-0?

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      • Halo11Fan

        5 years ago

        Which starting pitcher did they crush? No one cares if Bombo Rivera give up five runs.

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        • lowtalker1

          5 years ago

          News flash, it’s spring training, angels are trash, and they are wasting trouts prime years when they should have traded him for a haul long ago. Now they can’t.
          1. Astros
          2. A’s
          3. Rangers
          4. Angels
          5. Mariners

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        • angelsfan4life

          5 years ago

          Now don’t get me wrong, the Angels will not contend this season. But the hype of the Rangers is over bored. The Rangers are looking at this, a starting first basemen, who will put up worse numbers than Pujols. A second basemen who will strike out more times than he will be on base. Same with the third baseman. Huge question marks in center and right field. That with a back end of a bullpen, that they won’t be able to trust.

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  10. kahnkobra

    5 years ago

    they’re gonna give him Coronavirus injections to treat the elbow

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    • Vizionaire

      5 years ago

      wish you and your family a nice vacation to wuhan, china. hope you taste some bat meat.

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  11. faffri

    5 years ago

    Sounds like a vapire to me

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  12. bobtillman

    5 years ago

    I was going to get one of those “biological injections” but my wife told me not to bother.

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  13. Rangers29

    5 years ago

    Why are the Angels just sitting on the issue hoping it will magically disappear? I had an issue with my thumb last year where it would get inflamed and I couldn’t put pressure on it without it hurting. This lasted about 3 months before I finally went to the doctor, and he said I had a cyst in my thumb. He popped the cyst, and within a week I was fine. My point being, if you have an issue… fix it. It will heal. But if you just sit on it, all it will do is get worse trying to heal itself when it can’t. The Canning needs to take the year slow and get this fixed before it gets even worse, and he’ll be fine.

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      Rangers29, hope is often a great thing, but sometimes it causes you to put off the inevitable.

      Seven months Canning and the Angels have sat on this hoping it would go away. It’s becoming an all too familiar Angel strategy.

      I trusted them on Richards. I trusted them on Ohtani. I no longer trust them.

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    • ryanw-2

      5 years ago

      Because you can’t force a player to have surgery.

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  14. cookmeister 2

    5 years ago

    so he has arthritis in his elbow? not sure I’ve ever heard of that before

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  15. John Egan

    5 years ago

    have to agree that it’s just forestalling the obvious…

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  16. reflect

    5 years ago

    If this doesn’t work they should try astronomical injections next

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  17. fredyont

    5 years ago

    Koufax had arthritis in his elbow.

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    • bush1

      5 years ago

      Which is why one of best pitchers of all time had such a short career.

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  18. lowtalker1

    5 years ago

    Stupid
    Get the tjs or become the next Richards

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  19. manos

    5 years ago

    Tomorrow mornings headline: Griffin Canning has been suspended for violating the leagues PED policy.

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  20. JustCheckingIn

    5 years ago

    It’s clearly not a ligament problem

    Why does everyone want Tommy John? My god it won’t help

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    • bush1

      5 years ago

      Because teams are vague and scared to mention anything about any ligament damage. There’s so many more examples where a similar example of a guy who gets some obscure injections and rehab and can’t remain health or effective until the surgery is performed. It almost never works.

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      • JustCheckingIn

        5 years ago

        Tell me anyone who’s had a biological injection. It’s prp maybe. But biological injection? Clearly it’s not the norm…

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        • HubcapDiamondStarHalo

          5 years ago

          Since I know absolutely zero about biological injections, I did a little reading. This is a pretty universal definition: “Biologic drugs, or “biologics,” are given by injection (shot) or intravenous (IV) infusion (a slow drip of medicine into your vein). A biologic is a protein-based drug derived from living cells cultured in a laboratory.”

          I still know virtually zero, especially in regards to what they’re hoping to treat with this.

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          5 years ago

          It’s probably the same cocktail that saved Bartolo Colon’s career. Doctors mix together PRP cells with stem cells and some HGH for good measure. Perhaps they’ll send him to the same doctor in the Dominican too. Colon was all done before that procedure; he came back pitching like Superman for 4-5 years, not to mention his Canseco-esque hitting power too!

          In all seriousness, surgery is always the last option for both the player and the team. Much like Sale, this is not a clear cut case where TJS fixes all of his problems so the team wants to exhaust all non-surgical options (they tried rest already) before they consider going under the knife and losing 12-18 months of service time.

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          My point is, if it was PRp they’d call it prp. It’s not. It’s unique

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  21. jorge78

    5 years ago

    Rad!

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  22. bush1

    5 years ago

    “While the Halos did add two notable arms to their rotation”. This is a joke right? LOL

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      Bush, their rotation is not a joke. But I wouldn’t expect someone from the outside looking in to know that.

      However, if the injuries are anything like last year, they will be a joke. I think you can say that about most rotations.

      The prior three years, the Angels entered spring training with 16 projected starters. All 15 have gone to the DL, one died.

      This year, they are down one. Four are still operational. If they go 21 for 21, they’ll be in trouble… again.

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      • JustCheckingIn

        5 years ago

        Expecting reclamation projects to hold multiple rotation spots all year is guaranteed to fail. Sorry bud. They’re reclamation projects for a reason

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          What does “reclamation” projects mean?

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        • ryanw-2

          5 years ago

          What reclamation projects are you referring to? Because if it’s Teheran and Bundt, then you’re talking about the majority of starting pitchers.

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        • @%!&!

          5 years ago

          Wasn’t Teheran left off the Braves post season roster?

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          Yes he was. What’s the point of keeping a starter who wont start and wont pitch out of the pen.

          Wasn’t he Atlanta’s opening day starter last year as well?

          I bet the Braves wish they had Teheran today. Their 4th and 5th starters are Newcomb and King Felix

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      • budgreen420

        5 years ago

        It’s noble to optimistic about your team.
        I would take the Las Vegas Aviators starting 5 over Anaheim’s.

        Be prepared for a rough year.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          Then you are clueless budgreen420

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      • bush1

        5 years ago

        I’m really not trying to be a hater but the Angels staff is pretty much a joke. Plus when Ohtani comes back whenever that is, he pitches every Sunday? Wouldn’t that mess up everyone else in the rotations regular rest to accommodate for him? It’s so weird, and just dumb. He needs to only pitch. He’s a good hitter, but has all world potential if he only pitches. Plus pitching is what the Angels need badly.

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        • Halo11Fan

          5 years ago

          My guess is you don’t know anything about Sandoval or Suarez. All you know is what you can glean from Baseball Reference.

          My guess is you don’t know that Bundy has two elite pitches. But you have a baseball reference page that says he stinks.

          My guess is you don’t know why Teheren constantly out pitches his FIP, but you have a baseball reference page that shows you he’s gonna get ripped in the AL.

          My guess is you don’t know a thing about this staff other than what you see on Baseball Reference.

          But that’s OK, the problem is you think you do, but you don’t.

          Canning is a huge loss. I would have loved to have Stripling. I doubt Suarez is ready, but I doubt you know a thing about him.

          And of course you are going to root against the Angels, because you have to be right.

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        • Dorothy_Mantooth

          5 years ago

          Halo Fan > Bush1

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        • JustCheckingIn

          5 years ago

          Man you’re uptight

          Cool Bundy has two elite pitches! He also has never had an era under 4, and his era and FIP last year were near 5

          Tehran is moved and out of the rotation yearly. There’s a reason. He walks more than 4 per 9 and his advanced numbers are ugly. they’re 4-5 starters on good teams. Wake up or it’s gonna be a long year

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  23. jessehbk

    5 years ago

    Didn’t they try this with Garrett Richards

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    • Halo11Fan

      5 years ago

      Jessehbk,

      Plasma injections I think… But yes… They tried the same thing with Richards and threw away 200 innings just on him.

      I don’t judge this move in a vacuum. The Angels have a history of having pitchers hope things would get better only to find out surgery was the only answer. Maybe third time is the charm, but I’m skeptical. If this was the answer, why not seven months ago?

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      • Javia

        5 years ago

        Andres Munoz of the Padres had PRP injections a couple of years ago for a UCL sprain. A sprain means a tear. So he had a not fully torn UCL. He is currently pitching for the Padres. Considering that the guy averages 100mph and touches 104 on his FB, I am guessing that he puts as much stress on his elbow as any pitcher in mlb. Yet he continues to pitch effectively since his injections.

        Then again, he is only a reliever and doesn’t pitch a lot of innings. Most people who get PRP injections eventually need TJ surgery. I believe Munoz will need it eventually as well.

        Of course there are also guys like Tanaka who got PRP injections years ago and has been golden ever since. So anything anyone says right now is just a guess.

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  24. humphrey x boegarts

    5 years ago

    They’re shrinking down Chuck Norris and injecting him into the elbow so that it fixes itself out of fear of multiple roundhouse kicks. If that doesn’t work they’ll shrink Matt Damon to science the s#!t out of it.

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  25. loota.

    5 years ago

    I administered a biological injection and then nine months later my daughter was born.

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  26. HaloShane

    5 years ago

    Good deal… Angels are what they are and have been. The standings and scoreboard do not lie.

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    • cookmeister 2

      5 years ago

      Stop being a “fan” maybe that’s the issue

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  27. californiaangels

    5 years ago

    delaying the inevitable..

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  28. kilustration

    5 years ago

    I thought biological injections were done in prison!

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  29. Ketch

    5 years ago

    The way they place it in quotes, it looks like the back story for the creation of a Marvel superhero

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  30. halored760

    5 years ago

    Ok, I am an Angel fan and want to see Canning back on the mound as much as anyone, but based on these comments it’s obvious most of you have almost no understanding of what Tommy John surgery actually is. It’s not just something you do arbitrarily to get it out of the way and save time. Even though the procedure is more than 30 years old and has been perfected over that time, it is still an extremely invasive and dangerous procedure, and one that should be considered a last resort.

    So yes, while it may seem like teams waste time with these injections, the truth is every patient is different, every injury is different, and Canning’s seems to be quite unique. But if the ligament is not torn, to do an invasive procedure like TJ surgery just to speed up his timetable would be very irresponsible. In a TJ surgery you’re actually replacing the UC ligament with ligament tissue from another part of the body. It is very dangerous for a pitcher and there’s never a guarantee of success.

    So while it may seem like they’re wasting time and putting off the inevitable, you can never be too careful with the long term health of the human body, especially that of an elite professional athlete.

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  31. Taffy_pitcher

    5 years ago

    I’m a die hard Ångel fan and honestly the best thing for him just to get tommy Jonny surgery. I played in the Mexican league for couple years and got the injection for elbow injuries until finally told TJS was the best resolution. Don’t play anymore but now I feel better and coaching at age 24 years old.

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  32. brucenewton

    5 years ago

    Angels have gone this injection route before. Garret Richards for sure, there have been others. Inevitably it didn’t work. Just have the surgery. Certain teams seem to be a rough place for pitchers with injuries. Anaheim and both NY teams for sure.

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  33. timewalk42

    5 years ago

    So who’s the top 5 on opening

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  34. FU Ball

    5 years ago

    The Names of the angels players looks good on paper, but they’re not a competitive complete team. The A’s are 10 games better the Astros are 7 games better and what hurts the Angels is that Texas got better and where does it leave Trout again in his prime 4th place. Rendon is a great addition to any team and makes them better, but no chance with the lack of pitching , injuries to pitching and bad karma. I would have loved to see them really help there pitching out this offseason. A pennant race where All American Mike Trout gets in the playoffs and keep the Houston Assholes out. Would have been a great storyline.

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  35. halored760

    5 years ago

    “Just get the surgery already. The Angels have gone this route before and it didn’t work.” Blah, blah, blah. Thank goodness you people aren’t doctors. You’re simplifying this WAY too much.

    I understand the logic and how things must seem that way to you, but just because things went one way for one player doesn’t mean they’ll go the same for another. Every injury is different, and Griffin Canning’s situation is different from what Garret Richards went through.

    But please, continue believing in your phantom medical expertise and go on believing that Angel Management is just too stupid to figure this thing out the “right” way. Good luck with that.

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