Cardinals lefty Brett Cecil suffered a “fairly significant” strain of his right hamstring while covering first base in the Cardinals’ final game before the spring shutdown, manager Mike Shildt told reporters over the weekend (link via Rick Hummel of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch). There’s no concrete timeline on his rehab — as is the case with baseball in general — but he’ll require “multiple weeks of treatment to get him back to close to being into baseball activities,” per Shildt.
Shildt did note that Cecil avoided a full tear of the hamstring, although any strain, by definition, involves some partial tearing. He was able to walk off the field under his own power at the time of the injury (video link), although the 33-year-old was in obvious pain and walking with a limp.
Cecil didn’t pitch at all in 2019 after undergoing surgery to alleviate carpal tunnel syndrome in his pitching hand. A year prior, shoulder troubles wiped out roughly six weeks of his season. The lefty actually pitched well upon returning from the injured list in mid-May but tanked in the second half of that season. Cecil pitched 9 2/3 innings after the 2018 All-Star break and surrendered a staggering 16 runs on 17 hits and 10 walks with just seven strikeouts.
Cecil is now 75 percent of the way through a four-year, $30.5MM contract he signed with St. Louis prior to the 2017 campaign, and to date, he’s managed only 100 innings of 4.86 ERA ball with just 7.7 K/9 against 3.7 BB/9. Cecil struck out 31.6 percent of the hitters he faced over his final three seasons with the Blue Jays but has seen that number plummet to 19.6 percent. His fastball, which averaged 92.2 mph in 2016, averaged just 89.8 mph during the aforementioned 2018 season.
Suffice it to say, that’s not really what the Cards hoped when issuing the largest contract to which they’ve ever signed a reliever. Depending on the length of the shutdown with which the league is faced, it’s possible that Cecil could be healthy by the time a “second Spring Training” rolls around. Shildt’s rather vague wording and the broader uncertainty surrounding the timeline to Opening Day make that impossible to ascertain, however.
Robbyw90
Just cut this guy.
clepto
Similar to what McDonalds did to you? I know, I know, that severely strained pinky finger was a real barrier to wrapping Big Macs.
Cubguy13
Big Macs are boxed, not wrapped
hollidayfever
60 Day IL and they can go right back to getting their money back via insurance payout and free up his 40 man spot. There’s literally 0 reason to cut him at this point.
Maurice Lock
Learn how insurance works on players. It’s not this simple.
Maurice Lock
Mo fleeced on another contract.
uncle mike
Brett Cecil has proven to be the worst contract Mozeliak ever committed to. Dexter Fowler has turned out to be another bad contract. Plus, the early in the season extension of Matt Carpenter is yet to be determined but it to appears to be a bust
But——Giving Mozeliak the benefit of the doubt—-On paper, from the previous years, just prior to signing these 3 players, it might have looked as a good chance to take.
However—- the contracts of these 3 specific players have hamstrung the Cardinals to actually get that superstar bat they so desperately need. The opportunity was there in the off season to obtain Nolan Arenaldo!! What’s turning out to be under preforming players on high salaried contracts have the Cardinals in a no win situation for vast improvements to their offense. Offense which might include Nolan Arenaldo very well could vault the Cardinals from just a division championship, to possibly an actual World Series contender.
Maurice Lock
Uncle Mike, as much as fans drool over Molina, his $20M a year is a joke. That is major money to hand out for a guy with his stats. And please, don’t fill me in on all that he does for the pitching staff etc. If you polled 1000 STL fans and asked if Posey is worth $22M a year, 999 of them would say, “No.” So why would Molina be worth $20M?
uncle mike
Maurice Lock——Believe it or not—I agree with you!!!!—- He’s not worth that now, for sure!! Matt Carpenter is dragging down the Cardinals to a lower level of play and salary weighting down the Cards payroll. Tommy Edman or Gorman should be starting at 3rd. No way Dexter Fowler should even be in the Cards line up. All of the Young outfielders are better than he is now!!! So Again—- you are right. The Cardinals John Mozeliak has the Cards so loaded at the top on nonproductive—FORMER—Cardinals stars—That it’s tied up their payroll to where they can’t afford a player like Arenaldo. Mozeliak mandates Shildt to play the highest paid players as starters as Rick Hummel of the Post-Dispatch infers. This, because of all of the big salaried players on the team, it’s impossible for Shildt to start his best Cardinal line up “every game”. And Cecil—-what a 4yr waist of money!!!!
cards81
Wow! I cant believe the two biggest trolls on Cardinals post have already wrote something…of course Clepto is acting like a tough guy like usual with nothing relative to the post to say…and Maurice Lock talking trash about one of the most successful GM’s/president of operations in the game…get a life guys
clepto
[Yawn]
brownbomber
Hopefully they restructure his contract. So we can enjoy another 4 more years of his legacy in stl
bhd360
As a Jays fan I will literally never understand how anyone could have signed him to this contract.
its_happening
Me either. Figured he’d maybe get $20-mil for 4, tops. He was an early signing that offseason and the relievers got a nice boost thanks to St Louis.
bhd360
Yeah I figured if anyone could keep him serviceable it would have been STL but the warning signs were there. His last season in Toronto was painful, I think he blew nearly every big game situation he was put in that season. Basically any Jays fan could have told them this was a bad deal. He was losing velocity at that point already as well.
its_happening
He finished the year pretty strong. Bad April, bad July. I felt the Jays had a realistic chance of retaining him but not when that number came out after the Cards signed him. I’m sure Cecil’s agent received gift baskets from every free agent reliever that entire offseason, including JP Howell who replaced Cecil at $3-mil and about 10 mph slower.
Peart of the game
Injuries destroyed his last two seasons, sounds like he’ll miss even more time in 2020 after the coronavirus is controlled. Time to release him so he can get to work on rehab.
3Rivers
Hate to see anyone hurt but I love to see the Cardinals suffer.
cards81
lol the cardinals are not suffering because Cecil is hurt…they have plenty of better options for the bullpen
clepto
B&Y3: If there is one rule on MLBTR that is always true, if you say anything negative, whatsoever about the Cards, fact or not, it will be disputed, generally without fact, by the “BFIB mafia.”
So, while your statement may be based in fact, it will be met with disdain and general idiocy. Its a constant in MLBTR. Unlike the stock market, you can bank on it.
Since they have “unbelievable depth”, your comment must ultimately be disputed. Phrases like “unbelievable depth” are generally accompanied by more subjective, not objective statements based in fandom/hope/general lack of reasoning so poster beware.
As fans of other teams, we must accept our secondary citizen status, disregard inconvenient facts and all hail Mo and the greatest organization of all time….we should all be so blessed they exist to be a beacon in these dark times.
cards81
here we go again with Clepto rambling on about his nonsense…I’ve heard it before Clepto…come up with some new material please…it must suck to be so jealous of the cardinals it rules over your life…please explain how the cardinals are suffering because of this injury…they were probably going to cut him either way because they have unbelievable pitching depth
clepto
B&Y3: further fact based info for you. Remember what I said – these facts will be disputed with subjective generalizations or it will be crickets….
“Unbelievable depth” was quoted by a low brow in the mafia. When pressed, he said they had the 9th best farm system. You and I know, even at face value, 9th isnt even close to ‘unbelievable depth’. Thats fact.
Spent a few mins researching, because as I said, some people dont deal in reality. Fact of the matter, per MLB.com and per Bleacher Report, StL has the 18th and 24th ranked system, respectively, this year. Now, lets think about that.
9 vs 18 and 24? Hmm, someone is reading or creating some fake news…. And funny part? Fangraphs, Keith Law, and Baseball Prosectus most likely will have same general ranking. Maybe it moves a few positions one way or another, but no where near “unbelievable depth”.
Now, reminder this will be disputed. Its inconvenient facts. Thats a law on MLBTR. But, as I said 18 months ago, its a middling system and by todays facts, it still is. But we all know when these facts cant be disputed, lets turn to pennants, or division titles or whatever is convenient fodder from the past.
mrperkins
Keith Law of the Athletic ranked them 9th a couple weeks ago. I’d trust his rankings as much as anyone
clepto
how “convenient”?
cards81
lol Bleacher report has that ranking before the libertore trade…plus the proof is in the pudding bud..i have already schooled you on this…every trade the cardinals have made recently has only benefited the other team because the cardinals have great prospects…most positional players for the cardinals are cardinals prospects…pitching also has a ton of cardinals prospects…and those prospects and depth of the system got them to the NLCS last year…lol this is to easy…you know nothing about the cardinals system but proclaim you do and then even don’t realize that the bleacher report ranking is a bogus one…see how foolish you make yourself look
clepto
Summary:
Bleacher report doesnt rate system how you like, so now its bogus.
Cardinals, out of the goodness of their hearts trade away prospects that now are top tier rank on other teams, yet, somehow they were #18 system last year. So, again, another subjective comment. They were prospets, average at best.
“this is to easy”. Yes, it is “too” easy to point out facts that you hate.
Pitching has a “ton” of prospects….yet, per MLB Pipeline, Cards have only 2 in top 100. Fact. And they are a 3B and OF. Fact. And if you are using law of averages, 30 teams, 100 spots, each team should average 3.3 listings. Fact.
2 < 3.3. Fact. The "ton" of depth must be part of the "unbelievable depth" eh?
Had enough yet??
Maurice Lock
Cards81, do you get paid every time you write, “lol?” You seem to think many things are funny when they really aren’t. What’s funny is your complete ignorance of facts.
cards81
lol this is to funny…you obviously don’t know anything about the cardinals farm…fact they have three in the top 100…you forgot about Libertore…a pitcher….you two are too much…you have no clue about the cardinals farm…but yet you think you do…
cards81
Maurice lock do you get paid to troll cardinals post….it’s kinds pathetic how much you do it…
cards81
how many players do they have in the top 100 Clepto?
cards81
Clepto please tell me more about the cardinals farm system…but make sure you have your facts right…it seems you know a lot about it
Maurice Lock
Lol. Lol. Lol. Lol.
cards81
I know Maurice lock…it is lol how Clepto was so sure he knew about the Cardinals farm and then put his foot in his mouth and didn’t even know they had three players in the top 100…he was to busy looking at bleacher report…which is a joke of a website anyway
Maurice Lock
Considering they inherited Libertore in a trade just a couple months ago, it’s not funny at all. They didn’t draft him. They didn’t groom him.
cards81
Yes but that isn’t the point…go ahead and stick up for your troll brother LOL…the cardinals recognize talent and traded for him…and get this they traded away one of their prospect outfielders to get Libetore..sorry to ruin your day guys…They just keep churning out players …traded for players or players they drafted doesn’t matter…plus it’s hard for the cardinals to get guys like Libetore considering they always pick late in the draft…you know because they always have a winning season and do well…better luck next time
Maurice Lock
Yes. Fowler, Cecil, Miller, Bader, O’Neill, Broxton, Gregerson, Leone, Schrock, Munoz, Bourjos, Grichuk, Schreve, and on and on they keep churning out those great traded and drafted players.
cards81
Lol Flaherty, Hudson, Dejong, Wong, Hicks, etc I like how you put Fowler and Cecil in there as they were FA signings…but hey I wouldn’t expect a troll to know much about the cardinals anyway…like your buddy Clepto has proven
Maurice Lock
Yeah, there was never any late 1st or 2nd round picks better than Pete Kozma, Brett Wallace, Zach Cox, Shelby Miller or Rob Kaminsky?
Maurice Lock
I don’t care if they are signing or trades. They all suck(ed). In fact, the FA signings are even worse because of the wasted money. Wong has been average at best for 6 years. Hudson and Hicks? Unproven and hurt. Dejong is inconsistent. Why don’t you ever mention the bad extensions? Or the constant recycling year after year of the OF nonsense?
cards81
You can focus on certain picks that didn’t work out all you want…it doesn’t take away from the fact they develop good players that almost always fill out the majority of their roster..pretty weak argument…this getting boring now
clepto
Hey Cards81: here is how stupid you are. Try to follow this.
You said “unbelievable depth.” Then cited #9 system. Fail.
I said MLB and Bleacher said #18-24 system, which is fact. But since they arent what you want them to be, they get scoffed at, just like I said you would.
Then there is timing. MLB.com has 2 top tier prospects. But you think you have some moral victory with a 3rd name?
3 is less than 3.3, so below average system.
And the third name was acquired, not developed by the BFIB organization.
Facts.
You sir have failed to have any relevant point, except to prove exactly what I said you would. Scoff at facts you dont like and hope = fact in your world.
You actually have surpassed Xabial as being worst commenter on here…all time. Congrats.
Here are 2 facts to choke on: middling system, and 2 or 3 is STILL less than league average of 3.3. Thats the definition of unbelievable depth for low brow people, I guess.
cards81
Yet they haven’t had a losing season and made the NLCS last year…not everything works out and I will be glad to admit in the stupid extensions…you think I’m happy about them…but I look at the overall body of work and try to make my opinion based on that…I don’t focus so much on the negative like you do…please tell me that MO is the only GM/president to make bad calls…wether it be FA or drafts…give it a rest bud
cards81
Aweeeeeee…poor Clepto is mad because he wrong…waaaaaa
cards81
Clepto you come on here and act like you know about the cardinals and you haven’t a clue…anybody who knows anything knew about the Liberatore trade and that they have three top prospects…sorry bud but you can’t claim to state facts when you don’t really know
MoRivera 1999
clepto I must admit you’re on a roll, though you are besieged. Hang in there. I don’t have a dog in this fight but I appreciate that you are going to the fact while others…aren’t.
I especially liked:
“Pitching has a “ton” of prospects….yet, per MLB Pipeline, Cards have only 2 in top 100. Fact. And they are a 3B and OF. Fact. And if you are using law of averages, 30 teams, 100 spots, each team should average 3.3 listings. Fact.
2 < 3.3. Fact. The "ton" of depth must be part of the "unbelievable depth" eh?"
cards81
Ok Pujols, Molina, Carpenter..etc. you know two HOF players for sure…but please tell me about their bad draft picks
Maurice Lock
You really can’t be this dense? You think no other team has drafted A HOF player like Pujols?
cards81
lol what are you talking about…and also buddy….guess what…John Mo…current President of operations was in charge of the draft for the cardinals when those two HOF were drafted…that must hurt you Maurice LOL
Maurice Lock
I knew you would come back with that argument about Modouche being in charge of the draft of Jose Albert 45 and Thug Molina. Thanks for walking into my trap. So it’s safe to say, since Jocketty wasn’t in charge of the draft from 1996-2007, then Mobag had no say in the draft from 2007-Present? Correct? Let’s see if you can walk down a two way street or just one? I will predict this concept of logic is TOO, not TO, much for you….nimrod.
cards81
Wtf are you talking about?
cards81
You are so much of a hater that you don’t even make sense…your hate is unbelievable…what because John Mo drafted them he gets no credit for the current system…wow! I’m not taking any credit away from Walt Jocketty…I thought he also was a great GM…he obviously approved of all the great draft picks John Mo gave him…ie Pujols and Molina…as any person in charge of an organization would also have to approve of most, if not all transactions. So if you are trying to say Mo doesn’t deserve credit for drafts while he is GM proves that you are clueless about life and how most businesses operate…but good try Maurice lol…you have now proven that you are the biggest hater on the cardinals and the fact you have no idea about them or baseball…or the world
cards81
But please tell us how MO is the worst GM in baseball…although the facts, as Clepto would say, (except of course my facts are true) that Mo isn’t one of the most successful GM/ presidents in baseball right now…please prove that Mr. Lock
cards81
I meant to say because MO isn’t in charge of the draft he gets no credit for the current state of the organization…as in the drafts picks that have the cardinals with unbelievable depth isn’t a prelude to Mo being in charge…give me a break…that is a big stretch Lock…plus I do respect Jockety ….he put together the 2004 team that was one of the best rosters ever…and I give him a lot of credit for what he has done for the reds…but remember the cardinals chose Mo for a reason…and at this point gave up on luhnow, for good reason, to keep one of the best GMs/ presidents in baseball
Rob B
But he is in there system and in the top 100
your point failed
Maurice Lock
Cards81, looks like more than just me and Clepto who disagree with your sheepleness.
cards81
lol of cousre people will disagree…and of course people are wrong…
mrperkins
I’d have to say that the Cardinals’ run almost all the way to the World Series last year brought out even a little more hate and jealousy than I would have guessed. Sorry guys, maybe if Mo keeps up another 10 years he might finally have a team post a losing record.
mrperkins
And yes, Cardinals fans were not disappointed at all to have something come up that kept Cecil from breaking camp with the team. Sometimes a guy needs a change of scenery. If it makes Locke and Clepto feel better we Cardinals are just shaking in our foundations, lost, and now certain our season is all for naught at the absence of Cecil. And while it might allow for Whitley to break camp, who has looked fantastic this spring and last year as he rocketed his way up, surely he will turn into a pumpkin when he remembers that Mozeliak clearly is an inept executive despite never fielding a team with a losing record.
tbone0816
Just cut and release him!!
brucenewton
Could use an outfielder. The next Ankiel perhaps.
warren r.
Reminds me of the injury he sustained during the 2015 playoffs. A lot of Blue Jays fans will tell you that not having Cecil in the ALCS was a significant factor in why they didn’t get past the Royals.
its_happening
Or it could have been taking the foot off the gas at the end of the year only to go down 2-0 in the ALDS and lose the 1-seed a week prior. Or, Bautista not taking charge on the fly ball in Game 2.
Obviously we wished Cecil was healthy. Just not sure if he makes that difference between winning and losing to KC in the ALCS.
nats3256
is “fairly significant” more or less Injured then “significant”.
peterock141979
This makes me think we’ll be ok. If he was healthy I’d think it was the end of the world.