The Padres announced today that a pair of righties — Andres Munoz and Reggie Lawson — have each undergone Tommy John surgery. Both will surely be sidelined until the middle of the 2021 season.
This announcement knocks out a significant piece of the Friars’ bullpen picture. Munoz, 21, turned in 23 innings of 3.91 ERA ball last year. He racked up 11.7 K/9 against 4.3 BB/9 in his debut effort.
Munoz features a pure power arsenal that’s the stuff of scouts’ dreams. He averaged triple digits with the fastball last year, throwing it at a 2:1 ratio with his slider. MLB hitters swung and missed at 15.6% of the pitches Munoz delivered.
Lawson, a 2016 second-rounder, dealt with elbow issues last year, so this isn’t exactly coming out of nowhere. But it’s still a disappointment, as he produced an abundance of strikeout sin his six Double-A starts and mowed through Arizona Fall League competition (14:2 K/BB ratio, three hits in 11 innings).
KingRyan227
OOTP baseball predicted it munoz had Tommy John and is out for my season too smh
Javia
I cannot be the only one who saw this coming ever since Munoz got his PRP injection a few years ago.
sirrichard1975
Trust me, you weren’t
DarkSide830
sucks, Munoz is dynamic
thebaseballfanatic
A big hit for the Friars’ pen… at least they got Emilio Pagan.
Granted, maybe Pagan will suddenly become terrible like almost all those other dudes that leave Tampa Bay.
Gee, I wonder why that is…
DarkSide830
which dudes?
thebaseballfanatic
Evan Longoria, Steven Souza, Chris Archer, Alex Cobb, James Shields are good examples.
oldmansteve
All of those guys starting sucking before TB got rid of them…and then TB got rid of them. So the reason would be age. Mystery solved.
DarkSide830
bingo. and also Shields was already up and down, and Cobb had to move to Camden Yards.
thebaseballfanatic
No, they just seem to know exactly when a player is at his maximum value or is making too much money for what he is worth. Take Longoria. The Giants obviously didn’t think that he would become this terrible or they wouldn’t have taken on his albatross contract. So I’d say that it’s mostly the Rays exploiting other teams and having too small of a budget to make huge mistakes.
oldmansteve
Exploiting other teams by letting them voluntarily trade for players?
Everyone and their mother knew that Longoria wasn’t worth the contract. The Giants FO was making a Hail Mary attempt at 1 more WS before the inevitable tear down.
Afk711
The Rays make so many trades of course some will get worse. Longo was a con job on a fool of a GM. Any competent exec doesn’t take on that contract. Same with Archer when it came to trading big prospects for. He had three seasons in a row of not keeping his ERA below 4 yet some thought he was actually a top pitcher.
Judge44
This is true ^^^
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Shields was good for at least two years after he left Tampa Bay. Archer was bad for 2.5 years before he left TB.
Perhaps Neander’s biggest blunder was allowing the Nats to get involved in the Wil Myers trade as opposed to just keeping Trea Turner.
thebaseballfanatic
Although both of your statements are still valid, I wanted to elaborate more.
wedgeant27
Carl Crawford did it first…
Padres458
It really isnt a bit hit. There was a strong possibility he started in the minors.
birdsfan415
why is everybody having tommy john all of a sudden
DarkSide830
good time to get a medical exam when you’ve got no game action to attend to.
Strike Four
Steph Curry did it first, once again the man innovates all of Sports; your faves only play within the boundaries set by him.
AssumeFactsNotInEvidence
Steph curry was the first person to get a surgery because his team’s season wasn’t going the right way? You are, in fact, the stupidest person I’ve ever met if that’s what you’re trying to say.
Cat Mando
birdsfan415…………
“All of a sudden”. Really? Jon Roegele runs the database – Tommy John Surgery List. He is behind by a few days but here is a link to the 1868 TJS recipients starting with Tommy John himself.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gQujXQQGOVNaiuwSN6…
jsinclair15
Because of this stupid virus, players likely feel that this is a lost season… So may as well get this surgery now.
nowheretogobutup
I wouldn’t say a stupid virus, its taken many lives thus far and its not over by any means
DrDan75
Better a lost season than millions of dead people. These measures are all about preventing huge numbers of people from catching it. If nothing is done, hospitals will be overwhelmed with patients. There are only about a million hospital beds in the entire country. Not to mention equipment shortages, surgical mask shortages, ordinary stuff that you find in a doctor’s office, etc. having a heart attack? Too bad. You’re on your own. No EMT personnel, no room at the hospital, nobody to help.
Doctors will start to get sick, nurses will get sick, and people will die deaths that are preventable with sufficient resources. Trust me, the alternative is worse and, sadly, we might all have to wait till next year.
oldmansteve
Jokes on you. Tommy John is the cure for Coronavirus
Brixton
Nah but its easy to miss the 2020 season if its going to be 60 games anyways
DrDan75
Sixty games is better than nothing. Right now we all need to hunker down and wait for it to pass.
bbatardo
Not surprised by either and part of me thinks they were trying to be more proactive since no one knows when baseball will resume. Missing over a year sucks, but what if the season is cancelled? They won’t miss as much.
ManfredMustGo
Exactly.
lowtalker1
It’s a big hit but the padres have so many good bullpen arms… so does it matter at this point
DarkSide830
your hubris will be your downfall, Lowtalker
Judge44
Seems to be contradictory unless I’m missing something
hiflew
No it doesn’t matter. They will still be under .500 regardless.
DrDan75
I think they will be right about .500. It will be a short season this year so it’s hard to say. Padres need some offense to take some pressure off their pitchers. Moving Dave Kingman 2.0 (Renfroe) was a good start.
nmendoza7
Munoz’ delivery features the inverted W, on top the velocity and never being a continually healthy piece in the minors, his career his done, probably.
oldmansteve
Quite the overreaction.
You do realize there are a lot of pitchers who have the treacherous “inverted W” who have good careers? Mostly relievers. Billy Wagner, Craig Kimbrel, Lance Lynn are 3 guys that come to mind.
nmendoza7
I said “probably” for a reason.
DrDan75
Wins and losses don’t matter if you’re a reliever. Many times, a relief pitcher gets a “win” when he actually screwed up. He comes in to close a one run game, the opposing team ties it up, then the relievers team scores in the next inning and winds up winning the game.
Relief pitcher gets the “win.”
DarkSide830
the guy just turned 21. he has plenty of time to come back.
Javia
The reason he was never continually healthy in the minors is because he has had a partially torn UCL since 2018 at least. It’s all part of the same problem.
Smelly_Cobb
I guess I’ll have him throw 70 pitches next time out of the bullpen in the show to get him on the IL
Dom2
Keep them coming, get it done!
WideWorldofSports
TOMMY JOHN SZN
Judge44
Might as well schedule it upon getting selected in the draft now. I’m being facetious, but it’s amazing how inevitable this seems nowadays
HalosHeavenJJ
Have to wonder if teams are bracing for no 2020 or if this is just a bad run. I guess there are always guys injured at the end of camp but there wasn’t even a full camp this year.
Strike Four
Once again, “hard throwers” are dumb pitchers who have no clue about maintaining a long career. Pitching is an art, not a weightlifting competition.
oldmansteve
There are plenty of guys with velo who don’t get hurt and there are plenty of guys without velo who do get hurt.
Strike Four
Like 90% of “hard throwers” get TJ, stop being pedantic.
Javia
Try telling that to Nate Pearson, Jesus Luzardo, Michael Kopech and Sixto Sanchez. I am sure they would all be just as highly ranked if they dropped a couple of mph off of their fastballs, aren’t you Strike Four?
pinstripes17
another awful take, strike four
DrDan75
There aren’t too many pitchers who can get away with soft tossing to major league hitters.
its_happening
Thanks to the arm guards hitters get to wear to mask their deficiencies. Soft tossers can get away with more if the hitters aren’t allowed to crowd the plate with body armor.
jdgoat
How hard you throw doesn’t stop the fact that throwing a baseball is an unnatural motion. My fastball topped out at 86 in college and I had to have it. And there’s plenty of position players who have got it as well.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Big oof
nowheretogobutup
This season will probably not even start, the year of no baseball. Players are coming forth with the virus and unfortunately more will before this virus is over. You’ll see a lot of players getting TJS and other procedures/operations needed.
86mets
How are all these guys getting surgery when most all hospitals are not performing non essential, elective procedures? TJ surgery is not essential at all. A matter of money talks??? Seems that way.
disgruntledreader 2
Outpatient surgery centers.
DrDan75
TJ surgery doesn’t require a long hospital stay. Its like a lot of elective procedures, in and out about six hours later. Teams also have their own medical staffs that specialize in sports medicine.
stps2019
I would say the materials needed for the surgery could be better allocated . . . But you know what is logic right now.