In yet another bit of unwelcome injury news for the Yankees, manager Aaron Boone told reporters Wednesday that Giancarlo Stanton sustained a calf injury while working in the outfield yesterday (Twitter link via Joel Sherman of the New York Post). Stanton has already undergone an MRI, which revealed a Grade 1 strain in his ailing right calf. Boone suggested that Stanton will “be down for a bit” and implied that the slugger could miss time early in the season.
If the mounting rash of injuries in Yankees camp are beginning to feel familiar, that’s probably because the New York organization endured similar health struggles in 2019. The Yankees have already lost James Paxton for at least the first month of the season due to back surgery and lost Luis Severino for the year due to Tommy John surgery. Right fielder Aaron Judge has also been slowed by shoulder troubles so far and has yet to get into a Grapefruit League.
The Yankees can still lean on an alignment of Judge, Brett Gardner and Mike Tauchman. Stanton figures to rotate between the outfield corners and the designated hitter slot, the latter of which could now be filled more regularly by Miguel Andujar and Mike Ford in Stanton’s absence. If Stanton is indeed on the IL to open the season, that could increase Clint Frazier’s chances of opening the season on the Major League club.
Stanton, acquired in December 2017, enjoyed a strong ’18 campaign with the Yankees when he hit .266/.343/.509 with 38 homers. Biceps and knee injuries limited Stanton to just 18 regular season games in 2019, and the 2020 season isn’t off to a much better start. At this point, it’s not clear that Stanton will miss much of the regular season, but a Grade 1 strain is the least severe degree of strain. Barring setbacks, it shouldn’t be a long-term issue, and he could have time to ramp back up for a productive year.
The 30-year-old Stanton is being paid $26MM in 2020 under the terms of the then-record 13-year, $325MM deal he signed with the Marlins prior to the 2015 season. He’ll have the opportunity to opt out of his contract at the end of the 2020 season, although it’s extraordinarily difficult to envision him walking away from the remaining seven years and $218MM he’d be owed from 2021-27.
GothamNeedsMe
Expensive contract for a piece of glass to stand in the box.
bigjonliljon
He actually hasn’t even stood in the box much. Hard to when missing so much time due to injuries
Ejemp2006
Over the next three years, who produces more, Pujols or Stanton? Or Cabrera? My money is on Pujols.
looiebelongsinthehall
Pedroia.
leftyleftylefty
You’re good.
royhobbs
Ellsbury
retire21
Chisenhall
EasternLeagueVeteran
The wild boar hunter in NY. BTW, wild boar makes for a great Cuban Sandwich.
vtadave
Pujols has been a sub-replacement player for each of the last three years. Stanton played in 18 games last year and had a 0.4 WAR. Pujols will probably play more over the next three years, but will produce less.
miltpappas
Pujols will crawl through the 2020 season then the Angels will have had enough.
Twinsfan333
Stanton for sure and it’s not even close. You should probably stay out of Vegas…signed your future self
Ejemp2006
Last two years.
Total bases: Pujols 402, Stanton 343
Homeruns: Pujols 42, Stanton 41
Please don’t use WAR. I’m just talking production.
If you don’t like that idea, then over under, Stanton plays 110 games this year…
puddles
“Please don’t use thur stat that would go against my argument”
MrAngelFan
You can compare Pujol’s WAR at age 28 and age 29 seasons to Stanton’s age 28 and 29 seasons, but you are going to lose that WAR, so to speak. Stanton is not close to Pujols at the same age. If your point is that Stanton might be better age 30 than Pujols at age 40 than have at it. Everyone expected this at the end of the Pujols contract, no one expected Stanton to put of 0.4 WAR during his prime. Now he looks to have another injury. Pujols has 2 years left of his contract. Stanton has 9. How do you think Stanton will be performing at the end of that contract?
the cuban solution
I believe he’s saying don’t use that made up and subjective stat.
ghostrobot
Under by a mile
oldmansteve
You realize WAR is literally just a production stat. It is total production.
seth3120
I want to say first that Pujols is one of my all time favorites. Great family man, hard working, charitable, never took a mental break, worked hard in the community, etc. He’s still well liked in St Louis fans like myself don’t hate on him for signing that deal I would have even if it were to donate the difference in offers to charity(kind of thing it wouldn’t shock me if I heard he did). But in your argument to be truthful you aren’t telling nearly the whole story. Yes he’s aged and everyone expected the back end to be bad including the Angels but that didn’t just start. In your opinion what years of his contract with the Angels would you say he earned the aav of that deal? Please consider 25ish million was probably worth 30m in today’s money if I had to take a stab.
The Human Rain Delay
Miggy –
The other 29 teams are very Lucky though I must say- Stantons contract isnt going to sink that battleship but its def going to hurt for a long long time-
This could get real real ugly in 5 years from the Ny Fans, their still technically in the honeymoon phase! Cant wait
seth3120
I’d like to see what Stanton does when healthy. The guy was an absolute beast
Thomas Lane
Greg Bird
Tim_Buck-Two
His health has always been a question. It’s a shame
seafordraven
The deep pocket Yankees can absorb players like this. This guy has been a total bust for the Yankees.
Chris
He was actually fine in 2018 during the season. But he’s been a disaster since. Still if he can even just play for 130 games, he’s deadly with the bat
DakotaJoe
Chris, he slugged .509 in 2018. Certainly not bad, but there’s no way the Yankees weren’t hoping for much more than .266/.343/.509 with the money they’re paying him. And then he slashes .235/.325/.412 in 201-8-2019 playoffs. My guess is the Yankees would love a mulligan on that deal. So far there’s no redeeming part of his being a Yankee.
dynasty in boston
Ellsbury 2.0 Enjoy
Kayrall
Yankees saw those repeat .600 slugging years and were salivating over getting a couple of those during their window. He had yet to deliver one of those in NY.
Kemajic
He can rack up strikeouts with the best of them.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Calf strains tend to linger and are easily reaggravated. Might be another lost season for Stanton. Pity, when the Yankees acquired him, I thought he might hit 70 HR. Just didn’t think it would take three or four years to do it!
scottn59c
I have a feeling they will end up eating a good chunk of his contract and unloading him while he still has some perceived value.
showmejoe
he has full no trade, I don’t think he’ll waive it again, he wanted to be in NY or LA
the cuban solution
He’s already waived it to go to NY. Once it’s waived, provisions are added to the contract and it’s no longer valid.
seth3120
@the Cuban
I think that’s correct if he has 10 and 5 no trade rights which is a cba rule not one negotiated in any contract but if it was negotiated in his contract I’m fairly certain vetoing any deal would remain his option. However I’m not certain which is the case with Stanton. Most big commitments like his come with a no trade clause but not all
lamars
No one is going to take an off injured OFer with that contract. The Yankees would have to eat aton just to move him.
luckyh
No Lamar, everyone wants the Yanks’ cast offs at a premium.
looiebelongsinthehall
Everyone laughed at the Red Sox obligations. I’d rather root for a team like NY or Boston that goes for it than other nameless clubs that spend just enough to claim they try. Sox got buried financially this year and NY seems to be going down that path this year but with the 2018 win, it was worth it and Yankee fans will agree if they win this year.
carlos15
The Dodgers will take anyone!
Chief Two Hands
They really won’t, and don’t.
dynasty in boston
I agree. Dislike the Yankees but they put a decent product on the field. Unlike the Pirates and Marlins who are content to make TV money and CBT revenue.
Rudy Zolteck
Yes but then for every Yankees or Sox you end up with a team that “goes for it” and just falls flat and digs themselves into a hole, like SD a while back or the Orioles up until recently. They were “going for it” even heading into the 2018 season by signing Cobb and Cashner. So in a lot of these cases it really isn’t practical. Then the championship teams that didn’t break the bank (Cards, Giants, Royals) makes this even more complicated.
jayspoon
Signing Cobb and Cashner does not equal going for it…
Rudy Zolteck
With respect to the O’s it would, lol, their bread and butter was never lights-out starting pitching. Those are reasonably competitive moves from their standpoint if you look at the last decade.
vtadave
Have to admit I got a chuckle out of that. Trading for Mookie Betts and David Price is “going for it”. Signing Cobb and Cashner is not.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
The last time the Dodgers took “anyone” was 1988.
Rocket32
Scottn59c Why would they do that? Stanton has proven he can be very good when healthy, he’s not a player you eat a ton of money just to get rid of, and he’s not gonna bring back much prospect value anyway. No point in trading him,
brucenewton
No team is trading for Stanton. None. The only team on his trade list two years ago that wanted him were the Yankees. Even though he was a 28 year old MVP at the time. He will retire a yankee ( probably on LTIR at that time ).
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I see the same happening with Cole. They spent way too much on him.
larry48
Yankees should of know Stanton was injury-prone. He has never played a whole season without being hurt.
Kemajic
2017. Not sure the fastball to the face should count.
Begamin
They did know. We all knew. They took a risk, cant win them all
davidk1979
Shocker
downsr30
I’ll never understand how some of these guys are unable to stay on the field… injuries happen, yes and their job is physically demanding – I get it, but something clearly isn’t working in your training regimen if you are always pulling up with nagging injuries.
stretch123
I totally agree. It’s not like baseball is a high motion based sport and relies on spurts of movements. Swings, bursts of speed to catch a ball, steal a base etc… players need to do more agility and core work as opposed to heavy lifting, etc.
dimitrios in la
Stretching too!
Brendan Guttmann
steroids or the hi tech equivalent
downsr30
I think it’s the combination of strength training, increased muscle mass and decreased flexibility. The human body is incredible, BUT the force these world class athletes can generate is so hard on ligaments, tendons and joints.
It’s ironic when you see guys like Jamie Moyer, Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux, Tony Gwynn, Ozzie Smith, Cal Ripken Jr – these guys didn’t have jaw-dropping muscles, but they were athletic humans that used their body well. I’d say the difference between that generation and this generation is that those guys spent a majority of their training time doing baseball related things, whereas guys today spend a lot of time focusing on the things that will give them more power and explosiveness to be better at baseball.
cysoxsale
Synthetic testosterone can certainly lead to pop up injuries
looiebelongsinthehall
Didn’t the Yankees change conditioning and pitching coaches this year?
jayspoon
Yes, but I would say the results won’t be reaped over night. Also, a lot of these guys have their owner strength/conditioning coaches as well… The guy the Yankees just fired, was actually hired back in the day to combat the injuries the Yankees were accruing at that time…. Truth be told , it’s up to the athlete not the coach to focus more on conditioning and recovery… if you can recover faster, you can train more….
Les Chesterfield
Yes. They are doubling down and implementing more roids.
Mick1956
Dude, couple more roids with bringing in Beltran and Hinch as “consultants” under the table, and the Yankees will hit 700 homers. Know what pitch is coming and get to jack it out of the stadium on roids? Yes! Now that’s prime TV baby! #28 would be in the bag and they wouldn’t blow it like Houston did in ‘18 & ‘19.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
It is puzzling, for sure. Look at the old timers like Aaron, Mays, Musial et al. had nowhere near the training facilities or staff back then, yet they showed up and played 150 games each year.
Maybe these modern day players’ bodies are too taut? Too many pulled muscles. And until about 15 years ago, did any of even know we had an oblique muscle? That’s become another common injury with a lengthy IL stint.
pasha2k
Lol Gotham. Doesn’t make you wonder if he’s putting something in his body that makes him get all these kinda injuries?
Just_a_thought
If you are alluding to the use of steroids or PEDs in general, perhaps you want to brush up on what the purpose is for many of those drugs – faster recovery and to strengthen and repair. If steroids were the reason for his injuries, do you really think he’d still be taking them?
Rudy Zolteck
They don’t necessarily help a player heal. They actually make injuries to tendons and joints more likely, and with the extra muscle mass it’s possible to strain and tear more if the athlete doesn’t stay flexible and limber.
Just_a_thought
This is a calf strain, a muscle, steroids help with muscle recovery. You are confusing long term damage from prolonged use as if those are the short term outcomes. If what you say is true, no athlete would take steroids for any short term purpose
Rudy Zolteck
That’s fair then, I guess over the longer term of his career though, if he was sipping on capri-sun, this wouldn’t be so crazy. But I really do think that walking around with huge muscles without the proper conditioning will lead to injury, inevitably, in explosive or strenuous exercises.
Just_a_thought
I can’t disagree with you on that, however, usually these issues would pop up as joint related issues, not muscular and more likely would not occur until his mid-30s. To your second point, many people would agree with that sentiment. At this point, the scientific research is still out to lunch whether weight training is bad for explosive athletes (or more particularly baseball players). If it is so obvious that us medical laypeople can fathom, I’d think the actual experts on it would be able to definitively say. If it were that clearly linked, baseball players would not weight lift or would at least avoid mass gaining techniques to avoid these soft tissue injuries
pasha2k
Xactly You know
larry48
Stanton, yes I do.
burnt_reynolds
Bring back PEDs!
hozie007
…isn’t that what caused this in the first place?
burnt_reynolds
Ummm no? Sure could help him heal faster tho 🙂
Begamin
not unless you just believe every strong individual is on PEDs even without any evidence
brucenewton
Stanton is on the latest undetectable ped no doubt.
Mick1956
Maybe a little doubt? No doubt is quite a commitment.
throwinched10
Who knew that daily activities like walking and sneezing could be so dangerous?
Badfinger
I expect nothing from the player formerly known as Mike Stanton so no biggie to me.
30 Parks
Giancarlo Ellsbury or Jacoby Stanton? Either works.
looiebelongsinthehall
It must be the grass.
30 Parks
… the right kind of grass might help Giancarlo.
MetsFan22
Yankees are made of glass.
scottn59c
Stanton especially! But I do feel bad for this guy; He was so good when he was healthy and firing on all cylinders. But he seems to be one of those guys who is never 100%.
MetsFan22
Yankees fully healthy is scary! But they never are. I agree on Stanton
larry48
I hope the Yankees have insurance on Stanton and Judge..
Les Chesterfield
Or roids
SFGiantsGallore
Figures. Not surprised. Wish he could stay healthy, but that’s everybody’s wish. Hopefully he’s not out for too long.
Chris
What’s the point of these high priced personal trainers and team training staffs if they can’t keep players healthy
jdgoat
I think that might be a bit unfair to them. Cashman is the one who went out and brought in walking bandaids like Stanton, Ellsbury, Hicks, and Paxton. That can’t be ignored. It’s not like injuries just started happening once they reached NY.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Ask the Mets! Phillies axed 90% of their medical and training staff after so many players went down with injuries for the second year in a row in 2019.
Whatever they are doing, or whatever they are prescribing in terms of exercise and workouts, clearly isn’t working.
oldtimeyankee6242
( COUNT DOWN) 4 down 5 to go .
mlbnyyfan
Judge will be next!!!
luckyh
He was first actually, battling his own issues.
driftcat28 2
Oh lord
The Human Toilet
I don’t like the Yankees, but just sucks to see great hitters or pitchers just get derailed by injuries. Always wonder what could of been.
As a Cubs fan, I had to see that with Mark Prior. frustrating.
larry48
I hope the Yankees have insurance on Stanton and Judge.
larry48
Cubs training staff and coaches mismanaged both Wood and Price
Rush fan
Pryor
dimitrios in la
Agree.
Tim_Buck-Two
Mark Prior was gonna be really good till Dusty Baker let him throw until his arm fell off in the 2003 NLCS against the Marlins.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
Dusty is a pitcher killer. Astros might be lucky to play .500 this year if Dusty works vets like Verlander and Greinke too hard and too long.
Rudy Zolteck
Pretty sure they aren’t losing 26+ more games than last year but ok
mlbnyyfan
Yankees should of gotten Yelich instead
yanks02026
Pretty sweet that you can see the future… Yelich wasn’t what he is now when he was traded, stanton was the MVP. 99.999% of teams would of rather had Stanton than Yelich
Rocket32
yanks02026 Exactly. Almost any fan would’ve rather had Stanton on their favorite team then Yelich back then. You can look back on a lot of moves and say that stuff but based on the situation at the time, there’s no way you could say going for Stanton over Yelich was the wrong move.
khopper10
Ditto Cardinals
leftyleftylefty
We’ll see how good Yelich is this year now that the electronics sign stealing has been uncovered.
He’ll be back to who he was in Miami.
SFGiantsGallore
I actually just read Yelich’s history and I had no idea that other than 2018 (his mvp year), Yelich has been prone to the IL. I guess it’s not as well known because he didn’t sign a $300M contract and play for the Yankees.
Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher
No, but he was still in his early twenties and playing in an extreme pitcher’s park that kills LH pop.
When I saw what Milwaukee gave up for Yelich I was disappointed my Phillies didn’t trade for him. We had some heralded prospects back then who I believed were better than what the Marlins got from the Yankees.
Still waiting for one of those prospects the Yankees shipped to Miami for Stanton to make any kind of impact at the MLB level. Same is true with the prospects Miami got from Milwaukee in the Yelich deal;
Prospects? Ninety-percent of them fizzle out at AA or AAA, especially pitchers. I’ll take the guy who has already proven he can hit or pitch in the majors every day of the week.
Fg-3
This dude is a joke.. calf quad shoulder.. swing the bat.. hit the ball. Do something. Guy hits a homer in playoffs and hurts himself. Now no opening day??? Baby Calf.. get this dead weight outta here. MVP for the marlins Trash in NY. Gimme Dj and miggy and gleyber. They still earn there paychecks
gocincy
Was this a transcript from one of those NY sports radio shows? Reads exactly like it.
okiguess
Perhaps bubble wrap from now on.
Eatdust666
Of course Stanton already got hurt this year!
stan lee the manly
Just add him to the list. I wouldn’t know whether laughing or crying is the correct response if I was a Yankees fan, this is getting ridiculous.
mlbnyyfan
Trust me I’m laughing. He’s a waste. For every one great move Cashman makes there’re 3-4 bad moves.
stan lee the manly
I dunno, it’s harder to evaluate Cashman for me because the amount of money available to him enables him to take way more risks than pretty much anyone. It would be interesting to see what he would do with a mid-market team, I would guess his amount of bad moves would decrease significantly.
TradeRumorUser
lmfao when it rains it pours XD I really wanna see the Yankees pull off what they did last year all the injuries
Bone19
Never thought I’d see the day that I’d feel bad for the evil empire….
But man, these injuries the last few years have been just ridiculous!
Stanton always seems like a fierce competitor, so I bet this is incredibly frustrating for both he and the yanks.
Get well soon Giancarlo!!
Cubguy13
These mlb players are truly soft compared to other athletes. Every little muscle ache, hang nail, blister and so on, and they are out significant time. Nba players sprain their ankle and it gets taped and they are good. Mlb players are out months. They are just coddled babies.
RaysFanTL
the average NFL player’s career lasts 2-3 years. NBA athletes don;t put any unnatural stress on the body. Baseball players do everything at max effort putting unnatural torque on the body – whether it be swinging a bat or throwing the ball. There is a lot more stress on the body of an MLB players and they do it pretty much everyday from February to the end of September – sometimes longer.
gocincy
I’d say forty minutes of pounding your knees on hardwood basketball courts qualifies as unnatural.
Begamin
so would sitting in an office chair for 8 hours a day if you think about it
Mick1956
So you are comparing one instance of a taped sprained ankle to every MLB injury? Seems rather incongruent. Players pay injured all the time and no other sport has the length of season like MLB. They just don’t brag about their tales ankles like the NBA. Arguably the greatest athlete of a generation, Michael Jordan, couldn’t just come in and play baseball well when he tried.
Speaking of NBA, you see how they launch themselves to the ground without even being touched and take several minutes to recover?
Cubguy13
Yeah Michael Jordan wasn’t good enough to play baseball, but I also bet he wouldn’t have ever went on the DL for some non sense. Do you think he didn’t play through strained muscles during his nba career? Do you think hockey and basketball players don’t play through them to this day? Stanton could dh as well so he doesn’t have to run nearly as much and he’s still out weeks with a grade 1. Its becoming obnoxious with all the minor injuries
baseballhobo
The Yankees have 8 more seasons of this.
Knuckleball Lady
Can’t say I’m shocked. This was a terrible signing for the Yankees. As good as he can be he’s constantly injured and therefore has not even come close to living up to what he’s being paid.
juanc-2
The Yanks didn’t sign him. The Marlins did.
mlbnyyfan
The Yankees should of brought back Maybin. He’s cheap and very popular. Maybe Florial steps up and shows he belongs.
Begamin
2 things:
Do you really think the small sample size of Maybin finally being above average in his 10+ career was legit?
Why would Florial skip the line when he has a lot of progressing to do in the minors? He is still only in A+ ball, a year or two out from the majors (injuries derailed the timeline)
brucenewton
High A has proved to much for Florial.
Aoe3
Force Stanton to participate in a full time yoga program. Cut the weight lifting include more stretching
johnnyz
I was just thinking that. Baseball players would probably be better off doing exercises like Yoga, or Pilates, But too many of them were probably High School football players as well and have that macho attitude that workouts like Yoga are for “chicks”. If they lift it should be with stretch band use your own body weight kind of routines.
Mick1956
Yeah, you may have a really good point but I assume an intensive stretching program is a integral part of strength and conditioning program. Something seems wrong for all these guys to keep getting hurt though.
Begamin
Then you’d be complaining that he doesnt hit as well as he did in Miami
BumpOnAPickle
Perhaps our NY teams should steer clear of high dollar corner OF players for a while….
Brendan Guttmann
steroids or the hi tech equivalent may be related to injuries, awful lot of joint, tendon and ligament injuries
frankjovine
Really? Hater, yes! I love this site, but too many members are totally clueless.
brucenewton
He’s juicing for sure. Lots of yet undetectable peds out there.
Begamin
Any actual evidence that he’s juicing or do you like to make things up in your free time?
Mick1956
It’s so funny to see how many people just throw out “juicing” with no evidence but then vehemently defend their own players in the same principle. Although he is quite large. Probably the same people that say Bonds never did roids.
bass86
that doesn’t mean he’s using any peds. It could however mean that he does spend too much time in the gym. It is actually quite common for professional athletes in today’s age to put themselves at greater risk for injury by over working out in the gym.
Goose
This is why I said the Rays will be a thorn all season. They have a better balanced team but dramatically less superstars. The Yankees have all these health issues. I thought the Yankees would jump out to a good lead and the Rays would chip away. Now I am starting to think the Yankees will fall behind and chase after the break.
frankjovine
Care to wager? $500….
The_M4N
You really went out on a limb there…
brucenewton
Yanks always play their best ball in the first half. They’ll probably lose the division late when the bullpen is running out of gas, which happens every year.
imindless
Mo is on life support right now lol
frankjovine
Pavano
Ellsbury
Severino
Stanton
They all have something in common. They all are made of glass.
luckyh
Hicks is another one. Judge is on the shelf right now, and appears to be fragile as well.
Mick1956
And, it is concerning that we have 6 more years of Hicks – ugh.
Mikel Grady
I never get injured, you can’t pull fat
leftyleftylefty
woof
yanks02026
Here come the Met fans cheering about another Yankee injury and Astros fans saying KARMA.
Senioreditor
As a Dodgers fan, I’m certainly now happy that we passed on acquiring him especially since there’s no definitive date for the DH in the NL.
bobtillman
Better get Refsnyder back.
Scrap1ron
Can’t we just turn injuries off?
JonathanJ
Man. Tough start to the season. Can you imagine how horrible it will be for Yankee fans when they lose to the Astros in the playoffs again?
drew ford
The Yankees basically chose Stanton over Bryce Harper. Bad move so far.
billysbballz
I knew we were not gonna sign Harper after dealing for Stanton. I agree I would take Harper over Stanton everyday plus he’s younger.
Moneyballer
It’s close. Harper hasn’t been worth his contract either. They only thing he has going for him is that he’s actually playing the game he’s being overpaid for!
BuckarooBanzai
I still remember all the Jeter bashing over this trade.
Moneyballer
The Jeter bashing was fun because you could take the side of the Yankees and insult them at the same time just like old times! Jeeeetah!
luckyh
Don’t worry Yankee fans you only have 8 more years of the guy. You guys really fleeced the Marlins on this one.
qbass187
Someone has to warm the Jacoby Ellsbury Memorial bench, no?
chip chipperson
Giancarlo Ellsbury
billysbballz
Not a fan of Stanton and I hate this trade even more now though I wasn’t a fan of it then I did feel he was given to the Yankees so they couldn’t pass. Now learning nothing is free and that contract will be an albatross to the Yankees for the next decade.
Begamin
cool man
RaysFanTL
I feel like there is something wrong with the way these mega contracts are set up. Long term deals like Pujols’s, Ellsbury;s, Miguel Cabera’s, Chris Davis’, and now potentially Stanton are terrible for their respective teams, teams fans, and the game in general. I get that the players union has to back its players, but what about the money lost for other players that don;t sign – or have to sign for less – because clubs are hamstrung with contracts for aging under performing former superstars?
Begamin
This is why we saw a down period in major signings for the 2017-19 offseasons. Teams see these mega deals not working out and decide theyre bad ideas
Mick1956
Yeah then players complain incessantly that owner are in collusion and are trying to tank, etc.
There should be a negotiated scale, similar to arb wherein the player gets paid the maximum if he does really well and it progresses downward as the player regresses. At the end of the year, the player will determine his salary and the guys stuck under team control that do really well, like Soto, Lindor, Torres, etc will be able to make their worth while they’re good.
The Human Rain Delay
Players complain about collusion Mick??
Were you here last year Mick, half these posters tryed to burn this place down with thier pitchforks spewing collusion-
I agree we have to appropriate the money to players younger better but we need not try and interfere with free agency.When this happens ill-intended results occur Like Machado sucking a half mill off the top of each of his bullpen mates and so on and so forth
Mick1956
JD – I think you misunderstood my point. If teams don’t hand out mega contracts to players, then the players (through their union) complain about the ownership and threaten strikes, just like they did two offseasons ago ( that’s the collusion reference).
My statement was more to the structure of FA contracts, not to interfere with it. If the owners don’t want to hand out a Machado contract, they shouldn’t, if Kimbrel wants to sit out, let him. I would like to see more performance- based contracts which would facilitate big-money signings, imho. Nobody should be forced to sign or be signed.
jimmy bussit
It’s Glass Joe
Dorothy_Mantooth
Is anyone surprised by this? The Yankees need to intervene and stop Stanton’s body building routine (and Judge’s too). Neither one should lift another weight all season. They are both plenty strong enough; they need to work on flexibility and stabilization exercises. Resistance band training, yoga, heck even martial arts. You lose flexibility as you get older and lifting only adds to that. The Yankees training staff is a disaster.
Rsox
The Baseball gods are angry at the Yankees for something.
Did someone take Jobu’s rum?
phillyballers
But he could still hit 80 hrs if he knew the pitch was coming.
halofan20
He’s softer then that near snuggles
T206
It’s amazing how quickly a player can go down nowadays, especially after they’ve gotten their money. I mean missing months for a calf strain??? Who’s making these decisions anyhow, the player, the trainer, the manager, or their agent? How refreshing would it be if we went back to 1 year contracts! You’d be getting the best from each and every player, every year and then we’d really have some fun in the off-season! I just hate seeing these players post these videos of them out doing one another with their workouts in the gym in the off-season only to see minor injuries take them out for a big part of the season, hurting the team, the fan base and the sport altogether! Who’s regulating their workouts in the off-season, could it quite possibly be that they are training too much in the weight room??? Do baseball players even run as part of their training anymore?? Remember how much the pitchers used to run back in the day, how many of them did stadium steps and rode the bike, is everything about lifting now?? I’m a long time fan of the game, and I hate to see fans constantly getting robbed because of fluke injuries like this to core players that seemingly could have been prevented if training programs were revamped! Something to consider I think! #GetTough #GetInBaseballShape
Begamin
whats the point of hashtags when there is no hashtag feature on this app/website
Mollysdad
I can’t believe he’s only 30 years old
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
30 going on 90.
Padres2019ha
Glad my Hosmer for Stanton idea was just that. Right RUNDMC?! HAHAH So many wannabe armchair GMs who shoot down ideas w crystal ball predictions.
Begamin
hosmer for stanton is still a terrible idea. not like stanton getting injured means the yankees need a below average 1B
Just_a_thought
I know this is between you and DMC, but this trade suggestion is still terrible. Another Stanton injury doesn’t change that
Buzzed Capra
I’d rather have an injured Stanton than a healthy Hosmer. At least when he finally does get healthy for a week or two he’ll produce.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
I think there’s a better chance of Nolan Ryan pitching another no-hitter in MLB than there is of Stanton opting out of his contract.
JaysForDays
2 points:
1) 80% of non yankee fans told you this would happen with Stanton — there should be absolutely zero shock. We all told you he was injury prone, but many of you refused to listen. He’s an albatross of a contract, and so too will be Cole in 2 years.
2) For those of you saying “at least the yankees spend to be competitive every year while your team, the ______, don’t” … that’s a bullcrap perspective. The yankees and other large market clubs triple the revenue of these smaller markets because they’ve been around for 100+ years and are in huge markets! They can spend 400m a year and still make a 200m profit. Absorbing stanton or price or stashing $70m players in AAA cause you can doesn’t take skill… just deep pockets. And that’s why mlb needs a salary floor and salary cap. Better baseball, less tanking is the result.
luckyh
They also need small market teams to put the revenue sharing they receive into the players rather than their pockets, which is where it’s been going.
JaysForDays
Hence the salary floor. Make them spend a minimum — encourages getting better players, which makes better teams, which drives better profits. I guess 26 man x the league minimum is the defacto floor, but clearly needs to be much higher
brucenewton
Agree. A floor would actually increase spending as well. A cap ceiling and a floor around 70% of the ceiling works great in the NHL. 175 ceiling/125 floor sounds about right. Increases incrementally every year depending on league revenues.
Paulie0514
This guy was never meant to leave Miami.
Bluemarlin528
Wonder if he will opt out? LOL
bigwestbaseball
Stanton is a fragile little girl. Eat his contract and release him, no joke. No more extensions, they all get hurt. Forget it! Stanton is a joke.
Begamin
haha ok man
Mick1956
I don’t think releasing him is their best option. He still is very impactful when he is in the lineup and even on what was arguably a bad year, he had really good numbers, comparatively.
Rumncoke
Hes brittle
Buzzed Capra
And fragile
Mick1956
Ivar the Boneless!
heinie manush
“it’s extraordinarily difficult to envision him walking away from the remaining seven years and $218MM he’d be owed from 2021-27.”
Ya think?
brucenewton
31 year old DH that is breaking down. Getting 80 million in free agency would be a stretch. A lock to never leave until retirement.
NYCBRAVE
All those injuries????
Cause Mr. Trout is always injured
Begamin
what
NYCBRAVE
All those injuries????
Cause Mr. Trout is always injured.
vtadave
At least he’s only signed through 2027. That should clear up money to sign Wander Franco.
whiplash
80 HRs my ass. The guy is never healthy. You gotta play first. If he knew what was coming he probably wouldn’t have been hit in the face.
Begamin
big brain post
whiplash
Thanks, Mr. My Parents Are Too Retarded To Correctly Spell Benjamin
Moneyballer
Your parents failed.
whiplash
haha moneyballer out here being a troll. You must still live with your parents.
DTD_ATL
The roids have broken his body down.
HaloShane
His desire to wanna win and play would fit in with the Anaheim Angels but we wanna be Los Angels but we are in Orange County, CA. Call the circus what you want.
Moneyballer
Seems like a very racist comment to me.
Mick1956
True comment about MLB players missing inordinate time for minor injuries. I mean core, calf, back spasm, bicep, quad, toe, finger….. the sheer number of injuries compared with the last few gen of players just played everyday, for the most part.
However, this seemed inevitable once the other 4 guys went down. We know another one is coming too, and I really hope it’s not Cole.
therealryan
Your comment about the old timers playing all the time convinced me to look back at Mickey Mantle’s MVP season in 1956. In 1956, only 24 players in the entire AL played 140+ games and 40 played 125+. Last season in the AL, 36 players played 140+ and 64 played 125+.
Looking at Mantle’s career and he averaged 136 games a season. So he was actually missing every 8th or 9th game on average.
Mick1956
Wow, that’s actually pretty surprising. Even given that info, we have many players that miss even more time that 35 games for minor stuff.
Either way, that’s really interesting and it looks as though nostalgia has overtaken plain ol’ commons sense on my perspective of player’s average time in the field. Good stuff and tha ms for the info.
therealryan
No problem. I know we can all be victims of recency bias and of course we remember the good parts much more than the bad if it surrounds something that we are fond of.
beyou02215
Glasscarlo Stanton strikes again. The Marlins have to be thanking their lucky stars that they were able to dump him.
metsie1
Eh. Couldn’t happen to a nicer team.
Eat'EmUpTigers
In other news, water is wet.
jbigz12
Remember when the Yankees fleeced the Marlins……..
Moneyballer
Breaking down again! No worries, it will only get worse as he ages and the yanks only have him signed through 2028. They’re good!