The Angels have a deal in place with righty JC Ramirez, Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register was among those to report on Twitter. It’s a minor-league arrangement.
Ramirez has gone through some ups and downs with the Halos already. The typically hard-throwing righty finally found a stable job as a reliever back in 2016, turned in a lot of solid starts in 2017, and then went down to Tommy John surgery in April of 2018.
Though he was tendered a contract and worked back to health in 2019, Ramirez has yet to recover his heater. He sat at 91 mph after working in the mid-to-upper nineties for much of his career.
Ramirez was ultimately outrighted by the Angels after five subpar MLB outings. He also struggled during his time at Triple-A. But Ramirez has perhaps shown a bit of a spark in Mexican winter ball, where he carries a 3.48 ERA with 29 strikeouts and eight walks over 41 1/3 innings.
Minor league deal is never a bad thing. That said, I don’t know how he makes the team.
The Angels are train wreck !
Your grammar are train wreck.
lol
Ha ha
Take it easy on the dumb kids.
He thrived in 2016 in Anaheim, and was a solid inning eater in 2017. Since then he hasn’t been healthy. If this guy can stay healthy, it’s exactly what the angels need
I’m not a huge fan of FIP, but it’s very good for spotting anomalies.
Ramirez was lucky in 2016. His FIP was 4.31. Ramirez FIP represents his season more than his ERA.
Too bad Trout can’t pitch.
Hey joke, you are so funny.
It wasn’t funny the last 50 times someone wrote that, but somehow it’s suppose to be funny now.
Too bad you can’t do anything other than troll.
Stop making burners haloshane
I could see him making the team because the angels don’t have much of a bullpen
Actually the angels have a lot of power arms in their bullpen troll
Lol, who doesn’t? The point is they desperatly needed pitching, Trout can just watch the playoffs again.
@No one likes tomatos you do realize that Robles had one of the best save percentages in the majors last year right? Middleton will be healthy all year. Bedrosian had a good year last year. The problem last year, the Angels bullpen threw more innings than any other bullpen in the majors last year. Because they didn’t have starters that could consistently go deep into games. Which is why the went for pitchers that have a history of staying healthy and pitch a lot of innings.
I don’t think he’s being a troll just not as educated about the angels pen as you. I for one can’t name a single guy in their pen. But I don’t follow west coast baseball as much as I’d like. Especially not bullpens. If you asked me I’d think the angels didn’t have a good pen either
T_Rex
Other than the Angels, I can’t any team’s 6th, 7th and 8th men in the bullpen. The Angels have one of the more famous 8th men in baseball because he pitched 7 no hit innings in the Tyler Skaggs game. But I would not expect anyone other than extremely knowledgeable baseball fans to know who he is.
That’s the point. He knows NOTHING about the Angels Bullpen, yet he comes on a thread and rips the Angels bullpen. That makes him a troll.
Anyone who does that on any thread is a troll..
I don’t see how Ramirez is going to make this team. Sure, three or four guys could go down, but other than that, I doubt he will.
Actually they’re bullpen was overworked because the starters couldn’t give us five innings the bullpen was pretty strong the first half of the season Any bullpen would falter when Your starters can’t give more than 5innings
Yes their bullpen was good going into last season but we saw the toll that weak starting pitching took. If the Angels’ starters can’t compile 100 innings, the relievers will inevitably burn out. I think this is what happened to guys like Taylor Cole.
Unless someone gets hurt, I don’t think Taylor Cole is going to make this bullpen, and Cole is higher on the depth charts than Ramirez.
Not anymore no, but last year he seemed to be doing alright and then the wheels fell off. And with the state of their rotation you can’t really blame him. Buttrey was another guy that started to feel it, I think.
They ran out Cahill, Cole, Garcia and Bard last year. They have a good bullpen, but those 4 were a trainwreck. They also don’t have a long reliever. Ramirez could fill that so we don’t have to watch Noe Ramirez run out for a couple innings and get lit up.
Matt Andriese will probably be the long relief guy.
I take it you know absolutely nothing about the Angels and are just talking out of your a$$.
Wonder how his fastball velo is looking. He pitched fairly decent a few years ago, but after injury his velocity really took a dip in very limited action. Always liked his stuff, we will see where it’s at.
I was just thinking the other day how the Angels should offer him a minor league deal as he was effective when healthy for the Halos (before TJS) a few years back.
Sometimes it takes a couple of years for the velocity to come back on the Tommy John surgery
Meanwhile, the Red Sox are standing pat with 4 starters; two of whom are one pitch away from a 30 day + stint on the IL….I don’t get it.
Always a good thing to pick up a minor league reliever, especially with their lack of pitching.
i hope your mother knows about your trolling. but then, she must be a texuxan, too!
Rangers29
The Angels had a top 100 pitching prospect that was forced in the major leagues last
year. He’ll start the year at AAA. He’s 21 years old…
Without looking it up, who is he?
i never really understood why fans of other teams, come on boards of teams they know very little about, and make comments like they know something.
Is that Griffin Canning?
Good guess. No. He’s older than that, he’s almost 24. He will also be one of teams starters. But that’s my point, You have no idea who Jose Suarez is, and that’s OK. Why would you?
Without going to fangraphs, I’d have no idea who Cole Winn is.
Last year fangraphs had Adell the #1 #2 Suarez, #3 Brandon Marsh, #4 Canning.
If I went on a Ranger thread, and commented about the Rangers, I’d look up things. I wouldn’t make generic comments. I simply do not know enough about the Rangers.
asking for a lot from a dumb troll.
Ok, I see what you mean, Jose Suarez is a familiar name to me, just because he played the Rangers last season. And to your point, I didn’t know how highly touted Suarez was, but I do vaguely remember the name from one game.
But I do know that the Angels bullpen and overall pitching is quite weak. I love Bedrosian, and I wish the Rangers had him, and didn’t Hansel Robles have like a 3.00 era last year? But besides that, what is y’alls pitching? Ohtani can start again, and if Heaney is healthy than that will be good. Teheran and Bundy are the 4 and 5 with Canning as your 3. That’s pretty weak, so all I was saying is that a minor league deal is a good thing for a team with not much pitching “stability” (which is the word I should’ve used before.
And I don’t understand why people don’t comment on other teams threads, because it gives you more knowledge of other teams. I knew absolutely nothing about the twins farm system, but going to Maeda threads, and just overall Twins threads, I know like 10 guys in their farm now that I didn’t know before.
All in all, I understand what you are saying @Halo11fan, and I’m not just trying to troll, because that’s what @StrikeFour is for, i’d actually like to get on these threads and talk about baseball instead of constantley trying to make jokes, and insults.
Except for what is going on with the Astros, I seldom post anything negative on other team’s threads. Most everyone knows their team better than I know their team.
The Angels pitchers can’t stay healthy. I would not say the Angels have no pitching, I’d say the top of the rotation has health issues and can’t be depended on. By that I mean Ohtani, Canning, and Heaney.
Sandoval has promise. But he’s untested.
Teheran is an innings eater and always has out pitched his FIP. He’s solid.
Bundy has one great pitch, one solid pitch, and should never throw his fastball over the plate.
I don’t think fans have any idea that the Angels rotation can be good.
The Angels have a great back end. Robles had a 2.32 era last year. Bedrosian looks like he did prior to his blood clot in 2017. Keynan Middleton looks pretty good coming off of TJ. Buttrey was over worked, but was All Star caliber the first half of the year. Noe Ramirez will be better once he starts only pitching 1 inning instead of multiple. 7-9 will be tough for opponents in the coming year. It’s just a matter of getting the starters late enough into the games to utilize these guys. Bundy and Teheran are innings eaters, Heaney needs to stay healthy and keep his pitch count down. Canning needs to do the same. The Angels won’t have a 5th until the end of camp, but there are 5-6 guys in play for that spot. JC would be a great long innings guy out of the pen or a spot starter provided his velo comes back and he is throwing mid to high 90s.
I think when people say the Angels have a bad rotation, I think they mean in comparison to other teams. I’m not being a homer when I say the Rangers have a way better rotation than the Angels. If Kluber is anything close to what he used to be, that’s great. (btw, I saw on twitter, Kluber pitching in spring training, and omg he still has that beautiful “Slider”, and his two seamer had such a nice cut to it, it was just so sweet.) Pair that with Minor and Lynn (who with Mathis as their catcher will both do what they did last year) is such a good 1,2,3 punch. Than if Lyles and Gibson stay around a 4.00 era, that’s fine, but if Lyles finds what he did with the Brewers, than that’s great. But they are still our 4,5, which is nice.
And I understand what you are saying about if you aren’t familiar with a team don’t talk about them negatively, and I get that. But I hope you see where I’m coming from saying that, people aren’t saying the Angels rotation sucks, it’s just bad vs. the Yankees, or Rangers, or Astros. See what I mean?
Good conversation though.
hahahah fire today!
The Angels are the JV team. Dodgers are the varsity.
Another troll heard from.
Even after the “JV” team season swept the varsity team last year?
The JV went 4-0 vs the varsity last year…
Yet Cody Bellinger carries around Trout’s jock strap sniffing every now and then.
The Angel’s offense will not be JV. They will outscore the Dodgers … again. Pitching needs work but it’s better than last year when the Angel’s beat the Dodgers 4 out of 4 times. If the Dodgers couldn’t outscore the Angel’s last year with that weak pitching staff, how do they do it this year against a better staff and a more dangerous offense?
Dodgers; #1 so cal team for getting beaten to death in the parking lot! You guys should just drop the pretense and move the team to Tijuana already.
Always felt to me like JC was a 400 meter guy the Angels tried to make a distance guy. I liked him as a 2-3 inning reliever.
My nephew’s in their system recovering from TJ, and should get to pitch this year. He’s a ways off but he’s got a live arm. Fingers crossed.
might as well say the name…
There are enough injury victims up and down the system that it may be more fun getting to guess.
I’m going John Swanda
And even if not him, I wish whoever it is a quick and successful recovery!
Can’t usually go wrong on minor league signings, but that they will quite likely have to use him is not comforting.
To the previous posts, no, what he once did one year in a sss seasons ago, while in his prime, is not relevant. This is especially true when ERA indicators said his line should have been closer to 4.30 already. You can wish for blind luck on anyone, but it doesn’t make it any more likely. He is a 4.5 range, or higher, pitcher
So, how does a 3.48 ERA in Mexican winter ball translate to MLB? Is that like a 6 or 7 ERA in the majors?
I hope he shows that he’s back so we have more depth.
If our new starters can eat up some innings, this crew could be good. Couple that with our offense and we will surprise some teams. 2002 our starters were so so but had Percy and Frankie at back end. That got us wild card and World Series.
We also won 100 games that year, I just don’t see that happening this year
A minor league signing with a non roster invite to camp. Ramirez was decent when he was healthy four years ago. At this time, Felix Pena is a much more reliable multi innings pitcher. Ramirez will be a starter in AAA as strictly insurance.
Ramirez is a decent depth piece for the bullpen. When healthy he has been better than league average putting up a 138 ERA+ in 2016, a 102 ERA+ in 2017, and a 105 ERA+in 2019.
Signing a guy like him to a minor league deal as a middle receiver is certainly not going to hurt. If he is not pitching well in spring training with recovered velocity then he can go to Salt Lake City.