The Angels announced that they have claimed lefty Jose Quijada off waivers from the Marlins. Righty Parker Markel was designated to create roster space.
The Halos will try to tap into the upside of Quijada, who got quite a few swings in his 2019 debut despite relying heavily upon his fastball. He also coughed up 26 walks, 19 earned runs, and 10 home runs in his first 29 2/3 MLB frames. Over seventy career Triple-A innings, Quijada carries a 3.73 ERA with 11.2 K/9 against 4.4 BB/9.
Markel also debuted in 2019, though he’s already 29 years of age. He throws a 95+ mph heater and a slider with about equal frequency, but didn’t draw a stand-out number of swinging strikes (just over ten percent) in the majors last year. He was hammered in his 22 debut innings, surrendering 19 earned runs with a 24:17 K/BB ratio. But Markel was much better in the upper minors last year, throwing 41 1/3 innings of 1.74 ERA ball with a hefty 16.3 K/9 against 5.7 BB/9.
macstruts
Oh, I’m so glad we didn’t get Stripling.
stewartnbuck
Arte Moreno please sell the team or keep your mouth shut !
macstruts
And you are so sure this is Arte?
So basically, you wanted to give up prospects, and pay Pederson 8 million dollars for being a platoon DH and keep Adell in the PCL for how long?
I don’t think Angel fans are the brightest.
I would have loved to get Stripling. It didn’t happen. But I’m suppose to cry because a 30+ year old pitcher who has never pitched more than 125 innings was not brought in a the expense of Adell? I have more sense than that.
stewartnbuck
you do realize that 90 % of prospects dont play in the MLB but you would rather stick with prospects over proven MLB starters.have you looked at Adell’s numbers, not to impressive. so lets waste another year that Trout wont be going to the playoffs so that Adell can have his shot? what kind of sense do you have ?
stewartnbuck
Jo Adell. AAA Salt Lake City .264/.321/.355 This is what your so excited about ? good luck with that.
macstruts
You do realize you don’t make a trade blocking the #2 prospect in baseball with platoon outfielders….. right?
Tell me you realize you don’t leave the #2 prospect in the PCL for months. Tell me you realize that.
This was ALL ABOUT getting Stripling.. That part of this is bad, not blocking Adell… is good.
macstruts
Who cares what Adell did at age 20 in AAA in his 131 ABs. He’s six years younger than his competition. Is your plan to keep him there?
You know what Trout did in the Arizona fall league, which is a heck of a lot better than AAA, 245/279/321. Less than a year later he was runner up in the MVP voting and led the AL in WAR.
Adell? 273/351/444
Blocking the #2 prospect in baseball is imbecilic. Planning on keeping him in the PCL for more than a month is equally imbecilic.
So in one month… where was Pederson going to play?
HalosHeavenJJ
There are three outfield spots. One is locked down. Left field currently projects for defensive liability Justin Upton who is coming off a knee surgery that doesn’t always heal perfectly. The other is Brian Goodwin whose defensive metrics last year were also horrible.
And then there’s nobody. At all. So when Trout needs a day off his feet or Justin’s knee aches, etc. we have either David Fletcher or we bring up Michael Hermasillo who can’t handle MLB pitching.
Joc Pederson for one year would have added a plus bat on the heavy side of the platoon, given Upton health insurance, kept Hermasillo in AAA as depth, and not really blocked Adell at all. I
If Adell deserves the call then Maddon goes match ups and rotates around to give Upton DH time and keep him off his feet.
AngelDiceClay
I would rather have Joc in RF than Goodwin until Adell is ready.
macstruts
Defensively we know what people are worth. We don’t have to guess.
Upton is Michael Brantly in LF. Brian Goodwin was +5 outs above average. That makes him better than Joc Pederson. How is that that’s horrible?
Upton is signed until 2022. He’s our left-fielder. That’s not going to change. So your plan is expecting a player who averages over 150 games to get hurt again?
Your plan is to bench Pederson in month when Adell shows up? Or is your plan to keep Adell in the PCL until the Angels can trade Pederson?
For one month we are short an outfielder. I can live with Fletcher being our 4th outfielder for a month a lot better than I can with Adell being in the PCL for three.
So now you are saying Trout needs a day off in March/April. He has 6 days off in March and April. You want to bring in a player because six days off is not enough?
So you want to give up players for Pederson? I don’t think you have a very good plan.
My plan is to have an outfield of Upton, Trout and Adell for five months of the season. Have Goodwin temporarily start. Have Fletcher temporarily be a 4th outfielder. And not lose prospects and have Pederson sitting on the Bench for five months at 8 million bucks.
macstruts
HaloHonk
So would I. But Adell will be here in a month. They are not going to leave him in the PCL. So that means you want to pay Pederson about 8 million dollars for a months work? And trade prospects?
You think Adell is going to fail in the PCL? No one fails in the PCL. Bours OPS was 1,104
Walsh 1.109
Ward 1.1011
He’s gonna hit there, then what are you going to do?
HalosHeavenJJ
So you want absolutely no injury protection at all, Upton to patrol left field at 32 on a bad knee and Goodwin to emerge as a viable starting right fielder.
Add on top of all that needing to go right every single game, you don’t want a proven power bat with positional flexibility to keep guys fresh and DH/pinch hit against righties, who constitute the bulk of MLB pitchers.
All of this because, not only do guys never get hurt, Joc not have better defense than Upton, Joc not have a better bat against righties than Goodwin but because a 21 year old with less than a month in AAA will join the roster and you’re confident he will hit MLB pitching at an All Star level.
That’s like staying in every poker game because you see a way your hand can be great but ignoring all of the pitfalls. That’s how you lose.
macstruts
No injury protection at all?
Our protection? The Angels have a pretty solid 4th outfielder. Who’s the Nationals 4th outfielder. Our protection? Ward is now playing outfield, his OPS last year in the PCL was over 1,000. Our protection is better than most, not as good as some.
Michael Taylor is not nearly as good as Goodwin, so maybe the Nationals should trade players and pay Pederson 8 million dollars in case someone gets hurt.
Pederson is not here, he’s not with the team. No team trades prospects and pays 8 million dollars for a player just in case someone gets hurt.
Teams don’t do that!!!!!
rottenboyfriend
Peterson made our lineup way better and who knows what we will get from Upton! He is horrible defensively and has been a negative war left fielder since we got him! Goodwin is the perfect 4th outfielder to back up all three spots.
Stripling is better than any of our other starters excluding Ohtani who pitched a grand total of 50 innings! If Epplier is the one who pulled this trade then he needs to be fired ASAP! The current roster does not have enough starting pitching to make the playoffs period!
macstruts
He’s not horrible defensively, he’s Brantley. Outs above average are measured. He’s 32 and was hurt last year.
Not to mention, he makes 24 million a year, he’s going to play.
“Stripling is better than any of our other starters” Do you think the Angels would trade him for Canning or Heaney?
But don’t get me wrong, I’d be happy to take Pederson if Stripling came with him HAPPY!!!!! But I wouldn’t want Pederson without Stripling.
HalosHeavenJJ
Who is the Angels solid 4th outfielder? The one who can comfortably play center. Fletcher? Hermasillo is over matched are the MLB level.
But yeah, expect everyone to stay healthy every single day until a prospect shows up and hits at an elite level. After all, everything always breaks right all of the time and prospects never initially struggle.
Good teams build depth and let prospects develop. They don’t count on career years from guys like Goodwin and for massive improvements from 32 year olds coming off surgery. That’s the difference between us and the Dodgers.
rottenboyfriend
We do not have the starting pitching to make the playoffs period! Pederson would have been our second best hitting outfielder with the most power on the team behind Trout! Playoff teams have deep benches and Goodwin is the perfect 4th outfielder who can fill in at all three positions!
Stripling would have been our second best starting pitcher based on whip and ERA numbers! That trade would have given us a shot to at least make a wild card!
macstruts
How many games did Goodwin play CF last year. And he was +5 outs above average. Even at a 100 OPS+, that a good 4th outfielder. He was 109 last year and he’s much better than Taylor.
Good teams don’t acquire 8 million dollar players holding down a spot until the #2 prospect in baseball takes his spot a few weeks after the season starts. No matter how many times you say it, it doesn’t happen.
If the Angels wanted to bring in Hunter Pence, I’d be fine. But the Angels should not be trading prospects and spending 8 million dollars on a 4th outfielders. Teams don’t do that.
macstruts
OK, rotten boyfriend. Name the last time a team traded for a player costing 8 million dollars and prospects who was going to be replaced shortly after the season started.
I feel comfortable saying that it’s never happened.
I would have liked to have stripling, but not Pederson.
rottenboyfriend
You hit the nail on the head man! Trout’s first half year he got sent back down because even he struggled to adjust to major league pitching!
rottenboyfriend
Stripling was the key player however looking at our entire lineup Peterson had the second most home runs and second highest slugging percentage on our team! If you remember Trout’s first season he was sent back down because adjusting to major league pitching is a big jump from AAA! You should anticipate a learning curve for Adell as well.
With the DH and time at 1st base there would have been plenty of opportunities for Pederson to get his 450 ab’s. Arte needs to let Billy make his deals and if it doesn’t work out then replace the guy! If that trade didn’t include one of our top 4 prospect it was a steal for the Angels!
OCAngels2002
“When the #2 prospect takes his spot a few weeks into the season?” That’s cool and all that you have a crystal ball, but that idea is completely unfounded. If that was truly the case and sentiment among the team, I highly doubt they would have been as eager to acquire Joc; especially if they are as fond about Goodwin as yourself. I think they have doubts about Goodwin, Upton, and certainly the viability of Adel coming up so rapidly. Just because it’s a brand new season doesn’t make Adel ready. We won’t even talk about his AAA #’s. I hope he’s a stud when he comes up as well though his relevance THIS year is nothing to bank on. Not at the expense of losing players like Pederson and Stripling and Pages for a Rengifo.
rottenboyfriend
I agree we need pitching more than hitting but one year of Peterson at less than 8 million with his slugging percentage makes our lineup against right handed pitching scary! Goodwin may not perform as well as a starter and our outfield depth beyond Goodwin isn’t much! Stripling would have made a HUGE difference in our starting pitching!
rottenboyfriend
What do you think the average major league starting players make now days? You keep making a big deal out of his salary and frankly we paid Luis Valbuena 15 million for 2 years and he was a part time player and not nearly as good as Joc! Jason Castro signed to catch at just under 7 million.,Trout at $37 million, Rendon at $35 million, Pujols at 29 million, Upton at $21 million and Simmons at 15 million make Joc a bargain at less than 8 million!
HalosHeavenJJ
Pederson is better than Upton. Pederson is better than Goodwin. He’s a clear upgrade as a starter, which pushes Goodwin to the 4th outfielder.
So when Goodwin covers center in 2020, who covers right genius? Oh, that’s right we don’t have anyone.
Your “plan” boils down to one word: “hope.” You hope nobody gets hurt, hope Upton rebounds, hope Goodwin can be a starter, hope Adell is actually MLB ready.
That’s not how good organizations run. For a 4% increase in payroll and guys we don’t need now we get a starting outfielder, establishing depth and making the lineup deeper.
Arte must live guys like you. Hoping Harvey turns back the clock, that Hamilton stays clean, never wondering why it doesn’t alway break 100% right.
rottenboyfriend
You are killing me! Other than Fletcher and Calhoun who are both average at best name an Angel prospect on the roster who has panned out? Our farm system is horrible and other than Epplier convincing Ohtani to sign with us we have had very little success since Trout!
The Dodgers half the team was developed with their farm system! If we have another horrible year then Epplier needs to GO! If you can’t turn it around within 5 years then we need to try someone else!
rottenboyfriend
Give me the name of the last 20 year old prospect that showed up in the big leagues and was an instant success? Even Mike Trout struggled and was sent back down for a month! Adell’s numbers in the minors are not that impresssive he has just been hyped and we will see what happens! I hope he is the next Mike Trout but we need to be realistic! It is a HUGE jump from pitching at AAA compared to the major leagues!
HalosHeavenJJ
Shh. Prospects always work out and good teams don’t need depth. Heck, number 3 overall prospect Brandon Wood came in and immediately drove the team towards October, right?
And there’s nothing better for a prospect than to be called up with a minimum of AAA time and immediate pressure to succeed.
Of course 32 year old guys who were bad defensively before major knee surgery always rebound and Goodwin doesn’t start on any real contenders, and we have no 4th outfielder but let’s not mention that.
Seriously, his “plan” is like holding a 2,6 in poker and counting on a straight only to be flabbergasted when he leaves broke again.
MrAngelFan
@HalosHeavenJJ What major knee surgery did Upton have? Ohtani had knee surgery, not Upton. Upton had tendinitis and was getting injections. Upton is not a great defender, but decent. He has adequate speed. No one is taking Upton’s last season for a career highlight. He was playing in pain and was not able to run full speed. In spite of the injuries, he still hit 12 HRs in 63 games which is on par with his career average. Upton is almost never injured. Last year was an anomaly. Most have soured on him, but I haven’t. If he is back to full speed, he will be the Upton that he has always been, .270, 30HRs 30 doubles.
MrAngelFan
@HHJJ What fantasy world do you live where Joc is better than Upton? Upton is better in both WAR and OPS+. Upton has been over 4 WAR 4 times. Let me know when a platoon guy like Joc gets there 1 time. Chances are Joc will retire without ever hitting 4 WAR. You can say Joc is better but the stats say otherwise.
macstruts
Mike Trout go sent back down because he caught a virus and only got three spring training ABs.
rottenboyfriend
Thank God you are not our GM… X catcher Taylor Ward who was horrible at 3rd base so we threw him in the outfield and you believe he should be our 4th outfielder? He has yet to hit major league pitching and is another first round draft pick who didn’t pan out! Renjifo and Fletcher are our only descent bench players so Pederson would have fit right in and gotten plenty of opportunities! It’s too bad Arte sticks his nose in Billy’s business because that would have been Eppler’s best trade as the Angels GM! After 6 years since our last post season appearance other than Adell and Marsh out top 30 prospect list is basically a joke!
rottenboyfriend
I agree with everything you have said…Macstruts is kidding himself if he believes we don’t need more proven MLB talent and especially pitching! Even Canning only had a dozen starts before he broke down! We have no quality backups at most positions!
macstruts
By the way Stewart, I just found out that Arte got impatient and walked away. I don’t hear everything, but when I hear something it’s always accurate.
I’m not upset about Pederson, but I would have taken Pederson if it meant getting Stripling.
imindless
Seems like a barria clone
macstruts
Why, he walks the world and misses bats. It’s the antithesis of Barria.
tc22 2
And does so with his left arm instead of his right arm.
Other than those key, fundamental differences, very similar.
DarkSide830
and Quijada hasnt started since rookie ball
MrAngelFan
It seems like Eppler likes the high strike out rate guys. He picks up a lot of them.
HalosHeavenJJ
totally makes up for Joc and Stripling. Thanks Arte.
macstruts
I’m glad Joc isn’t coming to Anaheim. I wish Stripling was here.
HalosHeavenJJ
I’ve been wanting Joc all off season. Fits the team like a glove, IMO.
macstruts
At the expense of Adell?
The Angels are much better off giving Adell full-time ABs in Anaheim. Let him play in the PCL for a few weeks, then bring him up. The last thing you want is a prospect spending a year in the PCL.
Pederson made zero sense.
Baseball Prospectus mid season prospect rankings.
2.) Jo Adell, OF, Los Angeles Angels
Why he’ll succeed: The tools here are louder than Franco’s. The track record is longer. It’s a five-tool center fielder of the ilk that BP Lead Prospect Writers love to put at number one, and the 90th percentile outcome here is higher than Franco’s too.
Keep him down for a Pederson… No way.
tc22 2
I hear what you’re saying and agree that Adell’s the future for the Angels. But I think that your view on Pederson’s fit for 2020 is based on some core assumptions that may prove inaccurate:
(1) that Adell will be a significant positive contributor in his age 21 season, with just 27 games of AAA experience under his belt;
(2) that all of Trout, Upton, and Adell–each of whom spent significant time on the IL last year–stay healthy for most of the year; and
(3) that Goodwin repeats as a positive contributor in 2020 even though his 2019 was a clear outlier from his career norms.
If any one of those assumptions proves incorrect, Pederson has obvious value to this team in 2020. In fact, even if all three assumptions are correct, I think he still has value as balancing out a righty-heavy lineup, potentially stealing DH and even 1B at-bats away from Pujols, and as a potential trade chip at the deadline if he really does end up being superfluous.
MrAngelFan
Mac is right. Adell is a 5 tool player. Pederson is a 1 tool player against right hand pitching. Against left handers, he is a zero tool player.
MrAngelFan
@tc22 We will need to wait at see on Adell. Trout has 20 games at AAA when he was 20. He didn’t play well during his first major league stint. He seems to be doing alright now. It doesn’t matter the time you spend. All players are different. He may even have a future in baseball. Adell lead team USA in 4 offensive categories. He did well against international competition.
For me, Pederson is a Kole Calhoun. I would be ok with Joc for 1 year. If for nothing else, to provide some relief if Upton is injured or Adell is not ready. I would much rather have Stripling. I know Stripling isn’t a great pitcher, but he is a good pitcher. He would have been an upgrade for the Angels. Joc is more of a safety net.
HalosHeavenJJ
See my comment above, and if Joc is balling, yes.
I have no faith in Upton to cover left field even remotely competently and less faith that Goodwin is a full time starter. Currently we have no depth, no 4th outfielder, and Adell has only had a cup of coffee at the AAA level.
If you truly want a prospect to succeed you let him develop. You don’t rush him due to team need.
Pederson provided a plus bat, plus defense, depth, and time to make sure Adell is ready for the call.
I like Jo. Met him, Seen him play. But the only people saying he’s MLB ready are on boards like this, not in front offices.
tc22 2
Right. Adell’s got off-the-chart potential but is really, really young. Joc for one year (which is all he’s under contract for) would be a great buffer that would let the team stay competitive this year while allowing Adell to continue to develop without unnecessary pressure. The guy has played a career total of 45 games in RF, so a little extra AAA time doesn’t seem like a drastic suggestion..
At the end of the day, teams only get a cost-controlled player for 6 service years. Wouldn’t you rather that be his age 22-28 seasons than his 21-27–especially if you can plug in a guy who is likely to be worth 3+ wins during the age 21 year at relatively low cost?
macstruts
tc22.
1) Adell needs to play every day, and that’s not in the PCL. He can’t stay in the PCL. I’m not expecting him to hit the floor running. He may, he may not, but you can’t leave a prospect like him in the PCL and you have to play him every day. There is no alternative.
2 and 3) Who is expecting all their outfielders to be healthy? We have a fourth outfielder. He’s a plus defender and even if he a league average hitter, that still makes him better than most 4th outfielders.
If Pederson was here, fine. But he’s not here. He cost 8 million dollars and prospects. He pushes the Angels right up against the threshold. No team spends that kind of money for a 4th outfielder.
macstruts
HalosHeavenJJ. The PCL is no place to develop players. Not pitches, not hitters. You seem to think the PCL is a stepping stone. It’s not, it’s a way-station.
prov356
HHJJ – I agree with you. Upton is awful. Depth is always good until Upton proves he’s healthy and Adell proves he’s ready. If it means Adell is in PCL for 2 months or more, so be it. There’s no hurry. We need Stripling and if Adell stays down for extra time to solidify the rotation, that’s fine by me.
macstruts
You can agree with him or not, But we know defensively who Upton is, he’s Brantley.
Upton is getting paid 24 million dollars a year, he’s the left fielder. Period. You guys can’t seem to be able to play the hand you are dealt.
prov356
Chill Mac. I know Upton is the LFer we have. like it or not. I usually agree with what you say, but I am not at all an Upton fan. He’s lazy in the field and lazy around the bases. If we had to take Pederson to get Stripling, we could do a lot worse. I don’t know why so many are in such a rush to bring Adell up to the majors. He’s so young. It won’t hurt him to let his game mature a little at AAA.
clayram83
Why is this such a heated debate? Potentially acquiring Pederson shouldn’t have such a reaction against it in regards to Adell/the other outfielders. The past week has reminded us how moveable depth is. I think we can all agree that Stripling was easily worth the good problem of having too many outfield options, you could even think of it as taking on Stripling for $10 million which is worth it. I doubt that there was much of a discussion by Eppler and co. about Joc vs. Adell or whoever else for 2020.
prov356
You’re right Clay. It shouldn’t be a debate at all. I’ve never heard a team make the comment, “Man, we have too much depth.”
macstruts
” If we had to take Pederson to get Stripling, we could do a lot worse.”
I completely agree, I’d still make the trade, but I never wanted Pederson.
Adell needs to be out of the PCL. It’s not where you put prospects.
Other than Trout, who was the last really big prospect the Angels had? Troy Glaus, 3rd ranked prospect? He payed 59 games and had 243 ABs at AAA.
If Trout wasn’t sick in 2011, he would have bypassed AAA entirely.
Your elite prospects should not spend a lot of time in the PCL. It’s not a place to groom players.
prov356
Agreed Mac. There’s always ways to make room if Adell shows he’s ready.
macstruts
prov356
When is the last time a team acquired an 8 million dollar player blocking the #2 prospect in baseball?
Has that ever happened? I mean ever?
In all the years I’ve followed the Angels, I’ve never had this conversation.
macstruts
Prov, there is no way Adell is not going to hit at AAA. That’s the problem. It’s not a place to develop hitters.
Kendrick, Sixty Nine games at AAA. The best prospects, don’t stay their, it’s a way station.
prov356
Mac – I think your argument is flawed in that you are assuming acquiring Pederson means Adell is delayed. They are 2 separate issues the way I see it. 1st, Pederson is more valuable than Goodwin IMO. It would have been a smart get for us, especially with Stripling as part of the package. 2nd, when Adell shows he’s ready, he can make his debut. There are many ways to make room for him.
macstruts
If it’s a package deal, I’ll take both Stripling and Pederson. But I wouldn’t take Pederson without Stripling.
And unless there was an injury of course Adell will be delayed. Adell now will be up by the beginning of May. Do you think they’d bench Pederson in May after trading prospects and paying 8 million.
Also, the Angels now have a little salary room to add a player at the deadline. Pederson not being here is a good thing. Stripling not being here is a bad thing.
prov356
I see your point Mac. In that scenario, I think Goodwin is the odd man out. But if we could get Stripling without Pederson, I’d be fine with that.
macstruts
I’d be fine with anything that brings in Stripling. I’d love to have Stripling and would be happy to accept Pederson as part of the packaged.
But I’ve never seen a team trade and spend 8 million dollars on a player that projects to be a 4th outfielder.
prov356
I consider Pederson more of a platoon guy against righty pitching than a back-up 4th guy. $8m for 30 plus home runs and decent defense is money well spent in a win-now season. It has way more potential than the $11m and $9m one year deals that we gave Harvey and Cahill last year to play only every 5th game. But like you said, the motivation is to get Stripling.
macstruts
He’s not going to play for Adell, Upton or Trout. So he’s not really a platoon outfielder.
I realize people want him to play for Upton, it’s not going to happen. I realize some people think it’s OK to leave Adell in AAA, it’s not. People think the PCL is a development league, it’s not. They would be negligent to let Adell get into bad habits in the PCL where every well hit fly ball leaves the yard.
The good news is that Adell will be up sooner rather than later and he wont be looking over his shoulder. He may not hit the floor running, but the Angels can afford having him hitting ninth.
Building a team is not just about what’s best for a week, or a month. Teams don’t have the resources for that.
8
Markel should go play overseas, i bet some teams have interest
orange2001
Eppler back to dumpster diving. His specialty.
macstruts
Orange, the Angels were 3rd in free agent spending this year. So I guess they are dumpster diving because they aren’t first?
Or do you want them to just spend and not take any flyers?
DarkSide830
can we honestly ban that phrase on this site? its practically a front office curse word at this point.
MrAngelFan
Ban? Trashcan banging is more frowned upon compared to dumpster diving.
DarkSide830
Klentak you let him past too?
aussiegiants53
Did the Angels DFA another pitcher? Oh giddy up Giants fans, I know we just got Jarlin Garcia but they can’t pass up another Angels pitcher haha! I’m joking guys, stop yelling at me
angels4life 2
The Angels are more and more frustrating each year. Joc wasn’t that appealing but Stripling would have been a nice add with a couple years control. Also, could have used Joc as trade bait when Adell got called up and started performing. It would have allowed him to come up without him being the piece the Angels need to compete for a playoff spot.
MrAngelFan
Us Angel fans are patient. From what I have read, it appears that it is Arte Moreno is the reason we are not getting Stripling. It because he was frustrated in the delay that he pulled the plug. If only he could be patient like us Angel fans. The deal was in the Angels favor. Without much in the way of good pitchers next year, a decent pitcher like Stripling with years of control would have been a good pickup.
macstruts
Angels for life.
To get Stripling, it would have been worth it to take on Pederson. I’m very disappointed Stripling isn’t here, I’m not the least bit disappointed Pederson is not here.
OCAngels2002
It would have been fantastic to get Stripling. Although, Pederson is just plain better than Upton & Goodwin and when an opportunity arises to get a guy like that, it is far more than a luxury or just icing on the cake. Also, I’m surprised nobody is equally sad about Andy Pages.. Check his rookie stats. Yikes!
AngelInOhio
Of course a Staring Pitcher that can chew up innings and have a sub 4.00 ERA is important,depth is as well…The Angel’s need both, but perhaps 2 seperate deals would make sense at this point…Something has to be done to fill this gap now…A Chatwood or a Boyd makes good sense for Renigflo and a couple of mid level prospects for an experienced OF would work as we all know how the injury plague hits the Halos each season…
OCAngels2002
The Angels need to reignite the trade for Joc, Stripling, and the Rookie slugger Pages (anyone look at that guys stats?!). The fans want it and the team needs all 3 of these guys. If the deal was good yesterday it should be good today. I bet Joc wants to come at this point. To go from playing next to Bellinger next to Trout?! That’s a heck of a soft landing… Playing with Trout will make Joc better. We can send them another prospect or draft choice + a little cash, and we can still make out like bandits! Pederson is a BIG BIG BIG acquisition!!
Rsox
Acquiring Pederson doesn’t block Adell, though he is likely ticketed for AAA for service time. Pederson can play both corner OF spots and even 1B (though arguably not well). The Angels need another Outfielder, Upton is coming off of knee surgery. Goodwin is coming off a career year and is better suited for bench work, and Trout has missed 98 games the past three seasons. Joc, or anyone else is necessary.
macstruts
Goodwin has a 104 lifetime OPS+. Although technically 109 is a career year, it’s not a crazy improvement.
The Angels can carry Ward for a few weeks. 301/427/584 in the PCL. I’m fine with him platooning with Goodwin for a few weeks. They also have Fletcher.
People make it sound the the Angels desperately need another outfielder. If that’s the case, then i guess most of the teams in baseball need a fourth outfielder.
If the Angels needed a fourth outfielder there were plenty of choices on the Free Agent market. However, few people were even suggesting it, now all of a sudden it’s a need.