Rockies GM Jeff Bridich has all but shut the door on a potential offseason trade involving star third baseman Nolan Arenado, as Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post reports. Per Bridich, the Rockies “have listened to teams regarding Nolan and really nothing has come of it.”
Accordingly, he said, the club is “going to move forward pretty much as we expected — with Nolan in the purple and black and as our third baseman.” If there was any uncertainty in that phrasing, Bridich seemingly covered it with an additional statement (which doubles as an exhortation to the fans and media): “So we can put this to bed and collectively look forward to the upcoming season and work toward that.”
This is about as much finality as one can reasonably expect to hear from an executive regarding a run of trade rumors — though there is one rather memorable example that went a bit further. In theory, perhaps, the situation could yet change. Bridich indicates that the Rockies didn’t hear anything enticing from rival organizations, but it’s always possible the offers could increase.
Even if there’s some hypothetical possibility of a revival of offseason talks, it seems the bar is now raised rather substantially for a deal. The Rockies surely (and understandably) wish to avoid major uncertainty in the run-up to Spring Training. And now their top baseball executive has very nearly promised that the club’s biggest star will be in Colorado for 2020.
The Rangers, Cardinals, Braves, and others were connected to Arenado at various points in time. It was never clear that talks advanced beyond preliminary stages. While Bridich’s comments confirm that some discussions occurred, it’s fair to wonder whether the smoke really suited the fire.
On paper, it never seemed especially likely Arenado would be moved unless the Rox decided they simply had to move his contract off the books. He’s slated to earn $234MM over seven seasons, which is a fair rate for a player of his abilities and age. But Arenado will have an opt-out opportunity after two seasons, thus limiting the upside. There just isn’t a huge amount of anticipated surplus value in the contract. On the Rockies’ side, meanwhile, it would’ve been hard to part with such a central player unless significant talent came back in return — even given the obvious roster challenges facing the club this winter.
Skraxx
FINALLY OH MY GOODNESS
Vandals Took The Handles
Has Mr. Bridich cleared this with Jon Paul Morosi?
The rumor spreading clickmeister that’s always wrong.
ihazhomerun
Not shocking.
allweatherfan
As expected.
DarkSide830
shocker
jdgoat
Jon Heyman tomorrow
“Cardinals and Rockies still in discussions over Arenado”
Vizionaire
lol!
dynamite drop in monty
Haha
Old User Name
Not a proper Heyman tweet without “The Yankees are believed to be interested” or “Mystery team involved.”
titanic struggle
Haha…truth!
Eatdust666
LMAO so true!
richr75
Don’t really believe him.
Chin Music
I don’t either. He said the same thing about Tulo…
Arnold Ziffel
Bridich bungled the Desmond, Shaw, Davis, McGee, and Murphy signings. Now he can’t even sign a catcher, fire him.
imindless
Cards fans punching air* “But we have all the leverage! Why cant they give us a superstar Player without requiring our top 2 prospects.”
ardaines
I’d rather just keep our prospects…
cards81
Not to mention with Carlson, Gorman and now Liberatore
Daniel Kodner
Dodgers fans punching the air: Why is it that we can’t just seem to buy a title?
cards81
lol The cardinals keep their top prospects and the future looks good…meanwhile the Rockies are hamstrung with this contract and will finish last in the NL west for years to come while never sniffing the playoffs…Sorry but a market level contract plus only a guarantee of two years is not worth your top two prospects…I’ll take the success of the cardinals business model as proof…plus no one even knew what the offer was…how do you know if that wasn’t offered? At the winter warm up Mo said he hasn’t heard of any Arenado deal
Nuggethoarder
Agreed. Carlson and Gorman, if they pan out, could be a fun duo to watch. We don’t know yet if that will be the case.
Would have also been fun to have Arenado on the team. Oh well.
Tapeman69
WTF are you babbling about
Eatdust666
They can’t because real life trade logic is generally not as dumb as MLB The Show trade logic.
Cornelius Fuzzyboots
Well, atleast I don’t have to see “Craig Stammen resigns with Padres” anymore.
Dbird777
What a shame. Give Dylan Carlson and one of the top position players in all of baseball might be a Cardinal.
iml12
I am guessing cardinals had to have carpenter involved in any trade with the Rockies. That’s a tough sell. If they didn’t dump salary they would of been well over the luxury tax and Matt Carpenter wouldn’t have regular abs.
gbs42
This trade would have affected Carp’s stomach muscles? That’s bizarre.
stan lee the manly
Haven’t you heard the air does weird stuff to people? Not sure if it’s because it’s thin or if it’s all the wacky tabacky floating around
Vandals Took The Handles
I am guessing there as never anything to this……
Or Lindor…….
Or Betts..
Gary White
I think a Carp CarMar De leon and Gorman trade would work well for everyone… Carp in the Rox could find many balls in the seats compared to Busch…Martinez can start and work through his problems or close Rox need both or either. Near equal trade in dollars. Both will be FA after 2021 like Nado… Then you have Gorman still there to pick up where Carp left off and De leon get’s his shot too. Cards get Nado and they keep the payroll where they want it.
Nuggethoarder
Cards could have just signed Rendon. Then you just pay the money, instead of the money and the prospects. But it wasn’t in their budget.
If they had interest, it was in acquiring Arenado and paying down the financial cost to themselves by including prospects. But apparently they could not agree on the price/value etc. Which is not surprising at all…
cards81
Carp or Fowler would have to come back to offset the cost…
hiflew
Why do people act like teams can just sign whomever whenever they want. Perhaps Rendon didn’t want to sign there. Every Arenado trade rumor said that the Cardinals or the Rangers or the Dodgers or the mystery team could have just signed Rendon and kept their prospects, but he could only sign with one team.
live42day
Exactly, Bridich is insane and either he wanted to dump salary or make a trade and eat some salary. You don’t get a team to take the contract and get a good haul of talent back. See Stanton trade as an example. I don’t know what he was offered for Arenado but my guess is he wanted all the teams to take the contract and give him good players back. Now he has a player that states publicly he isn’t happy. No chance he doesn’t use the opt out in two years unless the Rockies fire some management or he underperforms in the next two years. Either way the Rockies will probably try and trade again near deadline. Or next offseason.
Dogbone
I bet it’s more likely the Rockies wanted way too much especially with the salary Arenado carries. Hopefully this might increase the bidding for Bryant.
iml12
Ross said expect to have Bryant on the opening day roster. I highly doubt he’s moved either. Months of click bait.
titanic struggle
And they’re hitting on it…
mistry gm
Ross is probably the only one in Chicago that still wants Bryant. I hope he goes…..soon
solaris602
I guess no one was willing to take on all of his contract AND send their very best prospects. We’ll see what the price tag is come July.
Dbird777
Yeah, the same team that was willing to take on Stanton’s contract is soooo poor. If you want the best, ya gotta pay for it. Both money and prospects.
Nuggethoarder
Not true. You can sign Free Agents and not include prospects. You are not required to trade for elite talent.
hiflew
You say that, but they couldn’t sign them this offseason. And haven’t been able to sign elite talent going back to Pujols. Free agents have to want to want to sign with you in order for you to sign them.
Royalsfan12
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
notagain27
Looks like another case of another team overvaluing their own player. Can’t give one player 25% of your payroll capabilities and expect to compete yearly for a championship.
DarkSide830
Arenado probably provides 25% of the value and revenue of that team.
greg7274
He can field everything hit to him, and have a 1.000 OPS, both home AND on the road. But if the other 7 fielders are brutal, and only 2 of them are are ever on base… you’re not going to win many games.
cpdpoet
Weird, we have all read these rumors, but nary a speck on what the 3b wants…
Nuggethoarder
He signed a seven year extension last year. That is a pretty big statement on what he wants.
throwinched10
In other news, the sun will rise again.
uncle mike
Usual St. Louis Cardinals Ownership’s annual smoke screen!!! Getting the media to publicize the Cardinals are in discussions with another team’s Superstar!!! Always at the first part of January!! January is when their Season Tickets go on sale. Catch the drift??? The Owners of the Cardinals aren’t going to spend huge dollars on a Superstar who is in their prime!!!! Plus, Mozeliak is horrible in assessing talent!! Bad trades and absorbent multi year contracts given out to mediocre former All Stars —PAST their Prime. Free Agent relievers??? Brett Cecil, Holland Gregerson, Leone, Shreve, etc. and on and on. The 2020 Cardinals still don’t have an impact clean up hitter. Arenaldo would have been a perfect fit !!! The Cardinals had the money and resources to pull off a trade for Arenaldo, but the Owners wouldn’t pull the trigger. Guess .216 hitter Matt Carpenter will be their number 4 man in the battinging order. Ha!
titanic struggle
Haha! Rant on…#dreamscrushedtwigsandberrys fan
GoLions
Calm down. Have you even looked at what the Cardinals have done since Mo has been there? There isn’t a GM in the business who hasn’t given out a bad contract or two. You, nor anybody else, knows what they offered for Arenado. The reason the cardinals are annual playoff contenders is because they don’t hamstring themselves financially and continue to develop. They’re the only team in the Central that hasn’t had to rebuild in the last decade. Be thankful.
stan lee the manly
Goldschmidt says hey girl hey!
bigbadjohnny
Okay…….Bryant to the Cardinals for their Five Top Prospects
Deal or No Deal.
live42day
No deal on Bryant. Besides, Bryant wouldn’t like St. Louis. It’s too boring.
Eatdust666
Also, the Cubs would never traded one of their best, if not their best player to the Cardinals, since that they are both their biggest and most hated rival.
bigbadjohnny
Kris Bryant trade value just went up !……Supply & Demand.
Vandals Took The Handles
LOL
No one wants a year or two of Bryant for multiple quality, cheap prospects.
The Cubs and their fans need to get over themselves.
Payne Train
Kris Bryant is a Moron and no one will be trading top tier prospects for him. He’ll be a Cub until his contract runs out – which makes me happy because I’ll enjoy the Cards beating him for the next two years AND the Cubs won’t get anything in return for him. So yayyy
astick
I don’t understand how one fan base (Cardinals) overvalues their prospects so much. I understand all fans do this for their respective teams. However, in my experience, the Cardinals take the cake. Sad.
Vandals Took The Handles
One reason the St. Louis Cardinals have had one consecutive 2-year losing seasons in the last 60 years.
houseofcards
Too bad they are so successful. Sad.
Daniel Kodner
Seems to be working for us
cards81
Because the cardinals develop good players…sorry but it is true…the proof is in the pudding…cards trade Mercado to the Indians…he is doing well…cards trade Voit to the Yankees…he does well…the cardinals trade package for both Goldschmidt and Ozuna has benefited the diamondbacks and Marlins…A lot of Cardinals prospects don’t even crack the top 100 list but end up doing well in the majors…Dejong being an example…so yes the cardinals might overvalue their prospects but they should…the funny thing here is that not one person knows what the offer was for Arenado?
bigbadjohnny
Lets not mess around Cardinals fans,,,,,,,here is a trade that would be hard to turn down by Cardinals fans……
Cubs send………Bryant, Hendricks, Almora, Heyward……
Cardinals send,,,,,,,Hudson, Fowler, C. Martinez,, Carlson, Gorman
RedFeather
No.
stan lee the manly
That’s about the easiest no that ever was. If Mo wants to GM for the Cubs, he will just take Epstein’s job after he gets fired following another third place finish.
houseofcards
Nope
Payne Train
Nope – we don’t want any of that Cub garbage.
DrDan75
Cards and Cubs are division rivals. Those kind of trades almost never happen.
That would be like the Yankees and Red Skx or the Giants and Dodgers making a major trade.
Eatdust666
And Mets and Phillies as well as Twins and Indians.
bigbadjohnny
Arenado power numbers would go down 33% if he left Coors Field.
Rsox
For whatever reason Morosi is hellbent on trading Arenado this winter.
Even if the Rockies really wanted to trade Arenado they would not be able to. Between the no trade clause, the high salary, the huge prospect haul they would want in return, and the opt-out in 2 years it would be near impossible for a trade to come together at this point.
Besides, if Arenado really wanted out of Denver he could have let his contract run out and hit free agency this winter with Rendon and Donaldson.
stan lee the manly
He was promised a contender before the extension, that’s the problem. Then nothing changed and he saw that they weren’t serious about putting a contender on the field, now he would be ok leaving.
stan lee the manly
google.com/amp/s/www.denverpost.com/2020/01/20/nol…
This is why he wants out now. He’s starting to go public with it.
bigbadjohnny
I still say the Cubs is the team to beat in NL Central in 2020.
If they did not have a bad September with all their injuries, they would be in the 2019 playoffs.,
Payne Train
Respect your opinion, but it’s easy to say “shoulda, coulda, woulda”.
If the Marlins had Babe Ruth and Joe Montana last year, they may have had 3 or 4 games with 15,000 tickets sold .
cards81
I agree bigbadJohhny but the thing is we will never know…plus every team has injuries whether it be at the beginning, middle, or end of the year…the reason the Cardinals won the NL Central is because they had more depth than any other team and overcame their injuries
wordonthestreet
And if the queen had balls she would be King so to speak.
Fact is Cubs were not good enough. They had a bad September but September counts! And if they had that month in August instead of September what is the difference?
DockEllisDee
Drink another one
Eatdust666
More like if Craig Kimbrel wasn’t a gopher ball machine.
Les Chesterfield
Trade market hasn’t recovered since MLB let Jeter the joke broke buy a team when he couldn’t even make payroll. Since then teams wanting to trade talent are stuck everytime w terrible offers. MLB deluded their own product and this is the aftermath
angt222
What a tease lol
miklosselkirk
“We are not going to trade Nolan Arenado to another team this offseason.”–Colorado Rockies GM, Jeff Bridich
“THEY TOTALLY STILL COULD ARENADO!”–The Baseball Media
They really cannot STAND the idea of a great player playing for anyone but the Yanks, Red Sox, Cubs, Dodgers or Angel’s, can they…?
johanjoseph1
I still think the Rockies with the right moves can edge out or at least get close to the Dodgers like in 2018.
Tapeman69
Arenado’s value is in Coor’s . He’s the latest flavor of the month that cant hit on the road
Internal options
Hey Mo your offense still sucks! Not one move to fix the problem that isn’t going away. No rebound for Carp this year sorry.
Cubsfan2333
Unless you include Liberatore carpenter and dexter Fowler and Ramon Urias
TheMick7
Tomorrow’s headline will be: Arenado for Lindor trade talks heating up.
homerheins
Unless Arenado demands a trade.
Cubsfan2333
Hey homer
Bart Harley Jarvis
This is terrible news! So how are the Cardinals supposed to acquire Arenado for next to nothing now? So disappointing!
cards81
Lol no one knows what was offered…so you just look dumb with this post
Munkes2
Lol , but Cards fans were so sure he was coming for Carp, Fowler and Tyler Oneil LOL
cards81
Look above…same goes for you
Bart Harley Jarvis
No, I don’t.
Munkes2
Lol , but Cards fans were so sure he was coming for Carp, Fowler and Tyler Oneil LOL
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I’ll never understand all the fuss over Arenado. I get that he’s one of the best fielding 3B in recent memory, but an OPS of about .800 away from Coors makes him above-average, not elite, yet he’s getting paid like he’s elite. Even if you think he’s worth the money, a team would also have to pay a significant prospect haul to get him and he could opt out in two years. Just not worth it.
jakeabbey05
He’s the best third baseman in the game. Simple as that. If an organization has the prospects and the cash, the opt out can be negotiated if he really wants out of Colorado.
Simple Simon
Rockies have this Arenado:
Home: 515 games .324/.380/.615/.995
Everyone else gets this Arenado:
Away: 516 games .265/.323/.476/.799
For the Rockies he may be worth $234MM over seven seasons although they finished 35 games out of 1st last year in a weak division, and they’ve only finished above .500 twice in his 7 years but — hey — they could be worse.
In his 7 years, they finished 5th twice, 4th twice, 3rd twice, and 2nd once.
OTOH, the Rockies have NEVER won a division.
Spare Tire Dixon
Dude has a massive long-term contract with a no-trade clause negotiated by his own agent.
But he feels “disrespected”
Cubbie75
Speaking just as a fan of baseball on general, I would have loved to see Arenado come to any NL central team just so I could see him play more often.
Jjfleury
This is all a ploy to get teams to up their offers. With Donaldson now off the market and the Nationals taking a flier with all the average players on the market, I see this as the way they attempt to get higher prospects with the remaining 3rd base needy teams. I think the Braves will make a run at acquiring Arenado. They have Austin Riley, but I think they realize the window is now for them and they will strike a deal to acquire him rather than roll the dice on Kris Bryant who will soon be a FA.