The Houston Astros will interview veteran skipper Dusty Baker on Monday, writes MLB.com’s Matt Kelly (crediting Jon Paul Morosi). Baker has also drawn interest from the Mets to fill their recent opening. While the Astros and Baker have connected, Baker has yet to hear from the Mets (or Red Sox), per MLB Network insider Jon Heyman.
Baker managed an even 3,500 games across four stints in the majors. The Giants (1993-2002), the Cubs (2003-2006), the Reds (2008-2013) and Nationals (2016-2017) all enjoyed regular season success with Baker at the helm.
Baker hasn’t made much traction in the managerial market since parting ways with the Nationals, but unique circumstances in New York and Houston may open the door for the 70-year-old Baker to return to the bench. Certainly, Baker can handle the media scrutiny that will comes with stepping into the spotlight vacated by A.J. Hinch or Carlos Beltran, respectively.
Baker is no stranger to public scrutiny. He oversaw the Giants through Barry Bonds’ record-breaking home run season and the Cubs during their 2003 playoff collapse and the what-ifs of the Kerry Wood-Mark Prior era. He’s also the only manager in the last 24 years to take the Reds to the playoffs, which he did three times.
Playoff disappointment has also been a feature of Baker teams, however. After twice losing in the first round, Baker took the 2002 Giants to the World Series and lost. The Cubs heartbreak followed. He was unable to get either the Reds or Nationals out of the first round, getting eliminated in a winner-take-all game in each of his last four postseason appearances.
Of course, a manager cannot be solely held accountable for playoff losses, and Baker would certainly provide a semblance of much-needed stability to either franchise. Houston has said they want to have the opening filled by February 3rd.
Recent reports indicate Zach Greinke saw team Drs about unknown pain coming from his arm shortly after Baker was interviewed.
Destroying Zach Greinke’s arm is probably the most impossible thing to do in baseball.
Seemingly impossible for so many reasons, most significantly that Zack’s only going to pitch as long as Zack wants to pitch.
The angels couldn’t even do it and that’s saying something
@phatboi You must be stupid
Verlander too, guess we are about to see 150 pitch 7 inning games from them next season.
McCullers should request a trade asap tho.
Hire Baker. I loathe the Astros and this will keep them out of the post season.
baker always makes the playoffs
Always? His average finish in the division his 2.5. And what’s he done when he got there? He’s tied for 5th .overall in PS appearances with 9, but his .418 W/L% in the PS ranks him 96th overall. Mike Matheny has a better record in the PS. No one with that many PS appearances has a worse record. And he also has only 1 pennant for 22 seasons managing, and all those PS appearances.
And I suppose Baker did the hitting and pitching in those games.
@tad2b13 that’s really bad considering he always seems to inherit loaded rosters in otherwise weak divisions
Mo4ever:
While the winning percentage of a manager for the regular season is a poor indicator of the manager’s ability, it’s different story when it’s the PS. Teams that get to the PS are good teams. Why do you think Bochy is so highly regarded despite a sub-.500 career win percentage?
While some great managers had teams that couldn’t hit or pitch, a team that gets to the PS supposedly can. Granted, things can go against a manager that’s no fault of his, but over time those things average out. 55 games is a lot of games for things to average out. I would think a good manager, with a fair amount of games, would have at least a .500 record in the PS since those games are always with good teams, teams that can hit and pitch.
Have you even watched baseball in the last couple decades?
That was a superb comment. Thanks for the laugh!
Hahaha. THAT is an awesome commentary!
Word
This is a mistake.
the mistake is allowing the Astros to continue to be World series champions. how can i take MLB seriously if they allow this to go on. the Astros have turned MLB into an absolute JOKE. might as well call this league WWE
What does this accomplish?
Enough of your rantings already; did you take MLB seriously when the A’s and Yankees won World Championships with rosters full of PED/Steroid users? Of course you did…
Im trying to get an honest reasoning from someone who believes the Astros should lose the ‘17 WS. My issues with this is that it’s strictly symbolic and it would also punish the players and the only reason the investigators made such quick traction with the investigation is that players were basically given immunity. my other issue is how far back do you go? Steroid teams from the late 80s/90s/00s? Corked bats were huge in the 70’s, cocaine riddled teams of the 80’s and of course the electronic sign stealing that’s been going on since the 80’s according to Jack McDowell. You can also throw in any game Pete Rose played in . Where do you stop? We’ve heard whispers of 6 teams doing the same thing since 2016, that’s one big can you wanna open.
Unfortunately baseball, MLB specifically has a long tradition of cheating, I’m not kidding, look into it, all the way back to the late 1800’s there has been some kind of cheating scandal every decade, MLB is a fraternity of copycats.
I’m not saying the Astros shouldn’t be punished, the Taubman thing should have been handled separately, Crane should have been suspended, more staff should have been suspended and Int’ money should have been limited, I just done see how vacating a WS accomplish anything.
Vacate all WS.
Steroids and PEDs aren’t actually cheating. What Cora’s Astros and Red Sox teams did is what cheating is. What the Black Sox did is what cheating is.
ESPN for decades now has brainwashed the masses into thinking steroids are bad, but its been proven over and over it doesnt make you better at baseball.
What are you talking about? I don’t watch ESPN I have a brain of my own and do my own research. Why do you think players took steroids? They help with healing and pain, they help you run further and faster, they help build muscle, they help with longevity, they heighten senses and and help you focus. If you think that doesn’t translate to positive results in the playing arena well I do t know what to say.
Good or bad is not the point. They are illegal in society without a prescription and against the rules in MLB.
Wrong. Best research is that it adds .036 to BA. in other words a .265 hitter now hits over .300. Forget about the home runs, that’s a lot more singles and doubles. Go back and read Game of Shadows. It’s a sad book to read if you’re a sports fan
Yeah Performance Enhancing Drugs don’t enhance performance guys. Get off your high horses boys.
Yes. They. Do.
Bad players won’t become great but great players became greater.
I’m sorry it sucks but we can’t take away World Series titles. I remember when the Stl Rams lost to the Pats in the now infamous spygate scandal. They lost on a last second field goal. Who knows what could have been? It sucks and people just have to view it as they view it. But vacating titles is uncharted territory in a lot of sports. The roids argument is kind of apples to oranges to me personally though. I think it’s well known every single team had roid users back then. Maybe some worse than others but I just couldn’t say. Same as all you juiced ball junkies out there claiming this guy will fall off or this guy will fall off if they fix the juiced ball. Isn’t it fair to say every single power hitter will be affected if they change what is “the juiced ball”. Maybe it’s significant it very well could be but it would just mean 30 homers in 20 is 40 in 19. It’ll be league wide not just for a handful of guys
We are getting used to the fact that everything you say is a joke.
One of the unforeseen toxic side effects of this cheating saga is we’ve managed to dust off these dinosaurs into some sort of relevancy again.
There’s a weird opposition against experienced managers these days. I don’t have strong opinions about Dusty Baker one way or the other, but I’d hardly call him irrelevant. I understand analytics is huge now and it should be, but I don’t think experience should be overlooked.
I think right now though that job qualification #1. is someone who can handle the coming media circus.
Hire a PR firm to manage the media, don’t hire a dinosaur to manage your baseball team
Hire a PR firm, that’s a really good idea. Hire a PR firm to do every postgame press conference and all the little bits and pieces the media will hear out of the manager over the course of a season. That’ll work.
Call it a media circus if you like, but I’d call it questions of integrity and the catcalls that will follow the Astros to every city they visit next year. Baker is a good choice to stand up to that kind of scrutiny though he’d have to order toothpicks by the gross.
You going to follow the team from city to city to give catcalls? You have more free time than I do. Good luck.
Thats not what his comment says but good try
Exactly this. I completely agree.
@terry
Nobody has to follow the Stros from city to city to catcall them. There will be home team cat callers wherever they go.
lol whats next hook them all up to joysticks. lol saying dusty is somehow not good is just pure ignorance. just ask the players who follow him.
Yeah, I thought that would’ve been obvious but I am also hearing that Pantone 294 (the traveling Dodgers fan group) is considering buying a block of seats and chartering busses for when the Astros play the Angels in Anaheim this year. Don’t know if that’s going to come off (they say they want to clear it with the Angels), but either way I’d hope and expect they will be booed everywhere they play outside of downtown Houston. They should be booed by their hometown fans too, but probably that won’t happen.
There will be losers everywhere they go. Astros are still the best team in the AL. No cheating last season and they won more games than anyone else.
The cheating happened in 2017 so anyone that has their heads so far up their behinds that they are catcalling them now is just plain stupid. A hater and a loser. So we can expect you will be one of them when they play in Yankee Stadium?
People aren’t going to want to talk to a “media firm” after games. They want to talk to the people actually involved… Players, coaching staff and manager. Handling the media is part of the job.
Indeed. However I clearly remember watching Freddy’s Dead 3D in the theatre
He sucks. That’s why people are against him. He’s not won anything worth a damn.
What has he done?
Last two years managed:
95 wins
97 wins
Outstanding feel and results managing personalities and the bullpen.
He lost a decisive playoff game and for that got the boot.
A bad manager can win 95 – 97 games if he has good hitting and pitching. That’s no evidence that Baker is a good manager. And I seriously doubt any manager got fired for 1 playoff game. Do you really think that baseball GMs are that ignorant about baseball that they’d fire a good manager for 1 lost game?
He got the boot because the team’s win/loss total underperformed their performance on the field by 5 wins during the regular season and then was out in the 1st round for the 2nd straight season. .
@b1207 he got all those regular season wins because he inherited a loaded roster.
Talk about retreads, If you are going to hire retread I’d rather see them hire Ozzie Guillen and even though he’s a much better option than DB , he’s still a stretch
At least Ozzie would distract from the fact that MLB is letting a bunch of cheaters keep playing this season and an org that keeps to keep the title instead of vacating it..
Stop whining
Beat a different drum. Your’s is broken.
I dont like what they did but the fans and the city who pay for the stadium should not face punishment.
whining about comments sections which were created specifically for whining, well played, you whine-inceptioned that comment, @dynamite drop in monty
The man punted Baxter
wow. you are disturbing and disgusting. how about not using hate slurs while also not being a racist
lol ya how much better are teams like the Dodgers doing? Lol the guy is one of the best in history.
And now we know why “fresh” talent like Brad Asmus managed TWO MLB teams!
I hope Dusty doesn’t take the job. I expect that MLB will be handing out more punishments since more evidence is coming out of the Astros cheating. There will be great pressure on all of the Astros hitters this season. Any of them have sub par season more finger pointing will come out.
I expect MLB is ready to move on unless something really forces their hand and gives them no choice but to investigate further.
All the outrage that is coming louder and louder will make them investigate further. the will probably do some surveys and find out fans don’t trust MLB games anymore. A big drop in attendance at the start of the season and bad TV ratings will force their hand. Money always speaks louder than words.
Maybe but MLB has already said there’s no evidence of buzzers etc. Even with the trash can it took JomBoy to prove something in order for MLB take action.So unless there’s something like that coming out I think MLB is happy to move on. I’m pretty sure the Boston investigation is over but they’re waiting until after the HOF announcement to go public.
At this point, let MLB be forced to continue investigating. It will lead to places that it currently wants to avoid at all costs. There will be far less people standing on their soap boxes chanting “hang’em high”!
MLB investigated a few years ago after Oakland filed a complaint of Astros using whistles and cans to steal signs. MLB said at that time there was no evidence. So MLB has returned to re-investigations of rumors.
Why wait? Everything that I’ve seen is that they haven’t found much out in the Boston investigation.
Wouldn’t MLB want to get this ugliness all out and dealt with before Spring Training starts? Why wait and drag it out?
Ken they’re waiting to announce so it doesn’t distract from the HOF recipients. Just like a few days ago when the Mets had a street naming ceremony for Mike Piazza and they had to answer a bunch of questions about Beltran. It wasn’t fair to Piazza to have to deal with any of that as he had nothing to do with it.
That’s part of the cover up, MLB needs to release all information about Altuve ,Redick and all Astros players name that have been part of the cheating. This is just the tip of ice burg as cheating scandal and Houston Astro players.
money does, which is why they arent going to go too fas and risk alienating an entire fanbase.
I don’t think that buzzer thing is going to go away. We haven’t heard the last on that.
I like Dusty. Wish him the best of luck.
Verlander will pitch 350 innings
And need an arm transplant.
lol ok sour cubs fan. it not his fault the guy fell apart. even he does not blame dusty. he did not lose a ball or play like crap
So Houston goes from a manager that took out Greinke too early to a manager that took out Russ Ortiz too early.
The toothpick industry is about to get a bailout.
They want someone too old to understand the technology that could be used for cheating.
Sadly, there is no technology to compensate for your ignorance.
Good one. Still laughing at how you called that one like it is.
ya the ignorant old man thats side biz is high tech solar. lol
Just ask Collins to take over for a yr — but no rojas or perez or any other person without ML managing experience — how did teams ever get stuck on this nonsense of hiring managers with no experience — might as well have a program where a fan can pay $5000 to manage a game then teams could make all that $$$ too
So don’t hire any managers without MLB managing experience. What do you do when all the experienced managers have retired or died. At some point you’ll need new guys with no MLB managing experience. Maybe they managed in the minors, or coached in the majors, but they haven’t managed in the majors. Collins and Baker were new managers at one one.
the astros should go to wrestling federations and find a new manager from there, thos managers would be well versed in coming out of the dugout and distracting the umpires while their players are adjusting their varied cheating mechanisms.
Bring on Paul Heyman.
Sonny Onoo walks out onto the field to distract Joe West. And Correa’s back in the box with a chair! The ump doesn’t see it, here comes the pitch! Boooom!!! He rounds first, second, third! It’s over!!! (Ding ding ding)
On an unrelated subject, why is there no talk about Altuve and his 2017 MVP being in question? The guy cheated all year long.
Which ever option is the worst for the astros is the one I want.
Don’t think Houston is interested in Jon Daniels.
Lol, but why do people hate Jon Daniels, he has made our farm one of the deepest in the game, he turned our expensive aging roster into a team with pieces to build around. He makes savvy trades and pickups such as Fairbanks for Solak, Darvish for Calhoun, and signing Minor and Lynn. He has put us into this decade with a competitive team that didn’t take 6 years to rebuild, plus we haven’t been “god awful” through our rebuild.
Because it is obvious Nolan Ryan was the brains behind the Rangers most successful season not Daniels who has not had success since Ryan was forced out.
Dave Stewart GM, Alan Trammell manager
No and no for any of the teams
GMs keep hiring the same old proven incompetent managers. Baker keeps bungling game strategies especially running a pitching staff losing important playoff and World Series games,games he should have won. What’s the point of hiring an experienced manager who blows important games for his team. year after year? i feel for the fans of teams who hire these managers year after year.
let me guess a cubs fan
In Dusty, we trusty. Please let this happen.
dusty will manage the mets in 2020.
Anyone against hiring an accomplished and great manager like Dusty is racist
Wow, that makes me a racist! I never knew!
Oh bobo the only racist is you and your lack of intelligence and ignorance is shocking
MLB teams hire loser managers every year and nobody hates them like they hate dusty. I don’t get it. The reds were horrible here before dusty got here. He made us relevant again and this city came alive. After he left, they gave the job to an idiot with no experience with the same team. Yep, we finished at the bottom every year. Don’t underestimate the appeal of dusty to a young hungry team or a team that constantly under performs. Just ask the horrible cub team he helped to the playoffs.
worst mistake the reds made was firing him.
I’m all for these old school managers making a comeback. Would love to see Dusty and Buck make comebacks. To be honest I want to see someone like Ozzie Guillen come back as well
I’d really love to see Dusty with the Astros.
Good luck Dusty. MLB DESPERATELY needs more diversity at the managerial level. Not only that, he’s an accomplished manager. He deserves the chance, but does Houston deserve him?
I was just thinking that yesterday as well. Kind of sucks that two of the fired managers were one of the few minorities in the league.
Oh well JD I was thinking the other day it REALLY sucks how these jerks cheated and screwed the fans and the integrity if the game and should all be fired.
Funny race never came into my head. I do not discriminate on cheating!
So no it is not relevant and does not suck
There’s no minority managers in MLB. You can accept that for the factual information it is and be supportive or we can all play the “I don’t see colors game” which must be a pretty magical world to live in.
You’re so stupid
I’m also 100% correct. You are dismissed now.
Must be surprising for Charlie Montoyo, Dave Martinez, Dave Roberts, and Rick Renteria to find out they’re no longer minorities.
You and Strikefour can fight for dumbest comment. Seems you two would probably get along.
Yup. Played myself. Stuck my foot directly in my mouth and got served…and I ABSOLUTELY deserved it. My point was lost in my triggered rhetoric. Win some lose some. The actual fact and it is factual, is baseball and many sports lack black leadership and or minority leadership in a significant value. Blacks and Latino-Hispanic players can play on the different fields in the various sports but historically all franchises suffer from lack of minority leadership. Yes, there are Latino-Hispanic managers, how incredibly ignorant of me to ignore their contributions, no doubt. The general point still remains.
Wow
He will be a great hire. They just need someone to keep the team in task and motivated.
They likely need a veteran voice to keep them focused. Given they will likely continue to hear constant reminders about how they cheated, how they tainted baseball, how they put doubt into the integrity of the game, about how they should vacate the their title, etc. BTW, did Crane ever actually apologize?
Joe Espada should be the choice; he has been serving as their bench coach, so he is familiar with the team. He has been considered for other managerial spots.
I’m pretty sure MLB doesn’t want anyone “familiar” with the team to still be a part of the team.
well they arent just going ti fire the guy for being promoted. if he wasnt disciplined before he probably wolnt br now, barring new information.
Yea he is familiar with how to cheat and would be a good reminder every day of the scandal they are trying to put behind them.
So no, he would be a lousy choice.
wonder how many of candidates are truly interested in managing a bunch of cheaters.
I suspect Crane will have to overpay someone or hire a second tier manager. Maybe an old guy like Dusty who has nothing to lose? But stud manager schooled in analytics maybe not.
lol stud guy on a computer? you know people not avatars play this game
I hear Carlos Beltran is available.
You heard that? You are amazing.
Man for a guy that cried about racism is this is 4th or 5th job in the league
Yep, he clearly is the “go-to” African-American manager, which is MASSIVELY racist in itself.
Giving Dusty multiple chances to manage is racist? People really don’t understand what that word means…
I’m telling you all: the best possible way for MLB to fix this situation is to have all the players on the Astros and Red Sox current 40-man rosters to have their 2020 salaries and any multi-year contracts paid out in full by the owners, and turned into free agents. Make the owners hurt the most here, that’s the only way to fix this. Hurt the ones at the top who let it happen to begin with. Remember, player salaries are peanuts to owners.
It would be forcing both teams into an immediate rebuild. They can only use current FA’s and their minor league systems to fill the MLB squads in 2020. They also still lose their draft picks as noted in the original punishment, so they will be bad for a while – because they deserve it. That is what “punishment” is in this case.
It would also cause a secondary free agency/trade frenzy which every other team could benefit from for 2020.
And of course you have evidence that the owners knew and were compliant, yes? Thankfully we have due process here in the US. Don’t know what country you reside in but do everyone a favor and stay there.
Ah yes, a Boston fanboy who is defending a billionaire. Really worthwhile opinion you got there, just who I wanted to engage with over this, nope, was totally not wanting people to go “thats pretty similar to the Braves punishment, makes sense!”
I’m as American as apple pie, baby boy. What I wrote is actually what true American justice should look like. Perhaps you should quit crying and realize your fave team isnt full of good people.
funny you talk about billionaires but have no problem punishing all the other people involved just to hurt them? city’s depend on this money for schools and roads
Oh you poor, poor, sap. Is that what you really believe?
Billionaires have completely brainwashed you.
You’re idea makes no sense and isn’t nearly in proportion to the offense. The players, those that actually directly benefited the most are handsomely rewarded and then the teams are plunged into a weird rebuild where they can either sign there own guys or Boston’s guys or what’s left on the FA market. What about the players that have since left the Astros/RedSox? It’s just a logistically stupid idea. And by your own admission this would still only be peanuts to the owners.
So you’re saying my idea is exactly what Manfred will probably end up doing then, great, glad we agree on it!
What an asinine reply, I cant even figure out what you are arguing other than a perfect fix, which does not exist. Just say “I dont agree with that.” next time.
This is an example of why it’s a good thing MLB doesn’t go by Strike Four.
I’m defending due process, Genius. Wow.
Right? Dude’s not all there
Haha, you accusing someone else of being brainwashed. That’s rich.
Please don’t take my son seriously he’s showed his lack of baseball knowledge on every thread he’s posted in
“AFI’s top 10 movie plot twists”
and the people pf Huston all the employees should just get screwed
the best way to fix the situation is to concede that technology in the game is here to stay.
Legalize electronic sign stealing/decoding and simultaneously legalize pine tar for pitchers. This way, offense and defense get off-setting benefits.
Enforcement of Manfred’s rules is nigh impossible and once you legalize the behavior, no enforcement is necessary. No scandals, no fines, just ‘play ball!’.
“Legalize stealing” – hmmmm interesting concept, I wonder if it could be expanded outside of baseball?
calling it ‘stealing’ was a misleading word game in the first place. It’s decoding, not stealing.
The task of outwitting the offense should fall to the pitching team. If they suspect the offense has figured out their signs, then by golly, change them.
I disgree, you are ripping apart the very fabric of the game here. What is the point of the game if the hitter knows whats coming, just because the opposition was unethical enough to actively try and figure it out? Tech and hand signs do not match, and one opens up a massive can of worms because it can be hacked by 3rd parties.
Why are you defending unethical behavior instead of just hard banning all tech, banning sign stealing period (like, making runners on 2nd must be motionless) and letting MLB hire people to search all stadiums for it?
funny how most position players don’t consider it unethical.
The signs are not the property of the pitching team, hence they can’t be ‘stolen’ in the same way that team equipment could be stolen.
If the pitching team is smart enough, the hitter won’t know what’s coming; and even if he does, that doesn’t ensure he’ll get a hit. Astros 2017 video shows lots of cases where the trashcan is banged and then the hitter meekly grounds out.
They don’t consider it unethical because most of them don’t know what ethics even are, and have had corrupt coaches tell them to do it their entire careers.
It’s about cleaning up this mess, not creating new, different messes.
Dude you keep making these vaguely political statements like that canocorn guy on the other posts. Knock it off lol you’ve been reaching all over this thread.
Strike Four reaches more often than not.
I like the idea but what about the Yankees? It’s obvious they were cheating as they had Beltran in their organization last two years. It’s pretty obvious which explains why Judge went from being a garbage player in the minors to being a “superstar” in MLB.
Well, when the massive evidence against the Yankees comes out, they will also get penalized. It’s innocent until proven guilty, and they haven’t really admitted anything about Judge, who wasn’t a “Garbage” player in the minors, he was 1st round pick and his 2016 AAA numbers were decent and you can totally see how he could improve from there.
Oh wait, are you one of those people who think minor league stats matter or can be used to predict MLB numbers? Oh no, dont be that guy…
He didn’t say the facts are out about Yankee sign-stealing, don’t twist it. What we mean is that there is good reason to be suspicious about them and the fans should call for another investigation for the sake of fairness because of the teams that already got popped.
Judge was never bad in the minors, and there is no reason to assume that Beltran had the clout to push through such programs.
Oh Beltran was in the front office of the Yankees so based upon that you conclude it is “obvious” they cheated?
You got anything more to share or that is it?
No one said the Yankees were guilty. We said there is reason for them to be investigated, which the MLB wants to shuffle its feet for because it would be an even bigger PR hit. This same thing happened when they wanted to convince people juice wasn’t that big of a problem.
There could be future investigations about other teams if complaints and suspicions rack up.
none of the other 28 owners would ever sign off on that.
So the players would benefit even more from cheating? Most of the good players would be paid much, much more on the open market than they are currently making. Bregman alone would be looking at another ~$200M if he was bought out right now.
The dumbest comment of the year. But good news for strikefour. It is only January.
So Altuve should have contract paid in full and granted free agency while keeping his WS and MVP for cheating all of us out of a legitimate World Series?? Well then, if I am Juan Soto and want a $200M extension and don’t get one to my liking, I can cheat on purpose, hit free agency at 21-22 years old while screwing the team that drafted and developed me, and go to the highest bidder. I, for one, am not for rewarding players who cheated with a free paycheck and unwarranted free agency, while the fans watch their team dismantled. Vacate titles, and a half season suspension without pay(at least) of all players involved at all. Punishment should be enough to stop all future considerations of cheating, and enough to make players say something instead of hoping the ship doesn’t go down. Veterans that make more would lose more, but probably should have stepped up and done the right thing more as well. Not perfect I’m sure but seems fair, and this type of thing does hurt the owners and finances of these teams, whether they make money or are rich or not… Punishing the owners the most only hurts the fans, and possible(non-player) jobs. You still have to make money to stay open.
Congrats on the dumbest idea of the day.
“What you just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
So you want to reward the players that actually cheated? Fantastic idea!
If I was Dusty, I’d take the complimentary flight, hotel and dinner. Sit in the conference room and slide my salary requirement over with a folded sheet of paper. When opened, by whoever is left over there, they see a drawing of a hand holding up the middle finger. And then walk out.
@Rallyshirt – incredible post, cant thumbs up it enough.
Figures strikefour likes that ignorant post of rallyshirt
That sounds like a good idea to you? Really?
So he’s “…drawn interest from the Mets” but yet hasn’t heard from them?
This would be a just punishment. Time to break out the Dugout Dice.
Run Dusty Run!
Make Baseball Great Again!
astors already did that. of course will all know what people consider making American great is corruption and religious zelots with 0 moral compas or civility
Big brain 200 IQ anti religion guy pops out. Every thread without fail hahaha
Makes a post about others lacking civility while generalizing a large group of people with baseless insults. Do you ever get sick of projecting?
No reasoning with guys like that on this board man, they’re everywhere, let’s just not wear out our keyboards haha
baseless? ya like him harrassing people with disabilities or being a racist clown? dont you get sick of blaming your crap on others like a child? if you don’t like being associated with his beliefs dont vote for him that simple.
Despite all of the lame pitching injury jokes, the Astros clearing lacked real leadership. Baker may be a good guy for the job.
unbelievable this guy does not have a job. he is one of the most winning mangers in history. so what he did not win a world series. that is not the only way to judge. he gets there over and over for a reason.
He blew out countless pitchers arms by not believing in pitch counts, when he has never pitched in his life. One of the dumbest managers of all-time – give anyone else those teams he had and they’d have 10 rings.
All he does is reach the postseason. Perfect for your A’s.
lol oh what an insult. a 200 wow. most people think intelligence is a good thing. Mountain Dew Camacho
The Houton *Asterisks. There fixed it for you guys.
The Houston Trashstros works well too
I gotta think the only reason why in 2020 a 70 year old man would want to manage a team with 21 year olds on it would be to get them to help him download apps on his phone.
How does he not have a job? It’s pretty amazing really. He wants one really bad. There’s been about ten openings since his last gig. He’s had a great deal of success. He’s a nice person and he checks the diversity box. Maybe an honest journalist will explain why he doesn’t have a job? Most of the intelligent baseball fans already know the answer, and it’s not discrimination, but that would be an interesting read.
Because no one wants a 70 year old with a history of destroying pitchers careers managing 21 year olds whom he could possibly never relate to or understand?
If he “wanted” a job so bad he could have gone to Japan. But they probably want to keep their pitchers healthy. Or maybe you are overrating him.
Homerheins you bring race into it? He has to ne hired for diversity?
Do tell which team needs to check diversity box on behalf of MLB? Astros? Mets? Bosox? Which one?
Oh he is a nice guy? How dare someone not hire him?
Oh he really wants a job badly? Oh well then I guess someone needs to hire him? Because he really wants a job. Not like all other candidates? They may want a job but not “really want” it?
I suppose Dusty should announce which team opening he “really wants” now and MLB should force that team to hire Baker … you know since he really wants it … and for diversity you cry?
Of course I am not a journalist and I know you seek one out to explain all this to you … oh sorry I mean you seem only an “honest” journalist as I suppose anyone who does not tell you how silly your comment is would not be honest?
Dusty receives — at least on comment boards from fans — way more “hate” than is warranted. The man is a baseball lifer and knows how to manage a ball-club.
Like the article states, a manager cannot be the deemed the sole proprietor of losing in the postseason.
Besides, he reached the WS with the Giants anyway — something not all skippers do.
Bochy did it 3 times. Grow a brain. Baker is bad for the game.
I don’t get why everyone says Baker is a bad manager. He consistently has success with the teams he manages, even if he’s unlucky in the playoffs. I’m sorry, but a manager is not responsible for stuff like the Steve Bartman incident. Playoff meltdowns happen inexplicably and you can’t put that on a manager..
Actually getting stacked teams full of elite HOF-level talent and not getting them to the title is exactly what a bad manager is. Bob Melvin is on the same tier of “cant win unless you give me a team of all elite players”. Maddon and Girardi are the opposite of this, who got some teams over .500 that had terrible rosters.
…and yet both won world series and still have great enough reputations to get new jobs. if you want to liken Baker to those two, than id think he’d be an outstanding character.
See:: Don Mattingly
I think that nuance is something that gets lost to dudes like Strike Four who just really hate teams that aren’t his, lol, it’s possible to be a good manager and make mistakes, just like it’s possible to do things correctly and then stuff just happens. So guys calling Baker terrible and guys calling him flawless aren’t really getting the full picture in either direction.
Exactly.
No manager is flawless anyway. If we don’t look below the surface, it’s easy as fans to see a manager decisions as black or white — they’re either “geniuses” or “terrible” — but there’s more gray area within a skippers choices than some would like to admit.
While an extreme example — all it takes is one bad ball/strike call and the perception of a manager and his choices could change drastically — at least among fans.
Excuse me he is responsible for how he manages. For example he is not responsible for Bartman but he is responsible for how he managed after.
Prior was shaken. Get to the mound and settle him down. He did not. He just sat on his rear end like a spectator.
He is famous for saying about certain players who were slow that they clog the bases up? I guess it is better to just strike out? Clog the bases for who.
His teams has no plate discipline either. Just swing away.
UCL tears are at epidemic levels. TJ surgery is almost a rite of passage for every pitcher, including relievers who throw 50-60 innings a year. Dusty’s not perfect and shouldn’t be made a scape goat for injuries under his watch.
Baker is probably one of the best 30 managers in the league, but he doesnt seem like the type of manager that can get more than average out of a good team. this is the reason why guys like Beltran and Tingler get hired as well, just like how teams like talened 20 year olds over 29 year olds with the same talent. Baker has a high floor, but teams seem to think (whether warranted or not) he doesnt have a high ceiling.
If you hire Dusty, part of his contract is a supply of toothpicks !
Dusty is known to wear out pitchers arms !
Dusty doesn’t do Sabermetrics. So would be a perfect hire.(.insert eye roll).
please NO!! Dusty is the worst!
Drunk all the time.
Is that considered cheating?
In Dusty we Trusty
Houston has to be desperate to interview Baker for manager. The guy ruined Kerry Wood and nearly ruined Strasburg. Houston might have better luck elsewhere because Baker is too hard on pitchers and you will see these pitchers hit the IR and rushed back to further their injuries and be back on the IR. I feel bad for Houston fans if he is hired.
BREAKING NEWS:
‘Astros Fire Trash Can Responsible For Sign-Stealing Scandal.’
‘GM Jeff Luhnow and Manager AJ Hinch did not stop the problem. Yes, players took part as well. But they weren’t actually communicating signs like the trash can was. To truly stop the problem, he needed to be gone.”‘
‘Despite the lengthy tenure with the organization, the trash can’s punishment was swift and unforgiving. “I’ve served the organization from the Lastros days until the championship days. I only wanted to help us win, no matter the cost,” he mentioned in a statement. The trash can gathered his belongings, which were mostly trash, and walked out of Minute Maid Park for the last time, a “walk of shame.”‘
‘Other teams around the league are implementing new processes to ensure no other trash cans have the opportunity to communicate signs to hitters.’
I’m surprised anyone would want to be associated with this organization. As a side note, I wish they would take that 2017 MVP from Altuve since he cheated all year long. He does not deserve that honor.
No one in Dusty trusty.
I wanna see how Dusty does with a rebuilding team. Ya know, a roster that isn’t loaded.
like the reds
The Reds were loaded when he was the manager
still salty chi town? no he did not. even the players said ita bs
I hope they hire Dusty. A lot of good fishing in that area.
No Dusty! No Dusty! No Dusty!