As expected, the Yankees have formally announced their blockbuster deal with free agent starter Gerrit Cole. Fellow right-hander Chance Adams was designated for assignment to create roster space.
A newly clean-shaven Cole is set to be introduced at a press conference today. The club has not confirmed the financial details of the arrangement — it’s reported to come with an eye-popping $324MM guarantee — but did announce the nine-year term of the deal and the post-2024 opt-out opportunity.
As for Adams, 25, he has been with the Yankees organization since he was selected in the fifth round of the 2015 draft. He struggled in his early MLB opportunities, allowing 30 earned runs in just 33 frames over the past two seasons. Adams has spent most of the past three campaigns at the Triple-A level, where he owns a 4.04 ERA with 8.6 K/9 and 4.0 BB/9. The righty once ranked among the organization’s top five prospects and, prior to the 2017 season, was ranked as the No. 81 prospect in the game by Baseball America. Things clearly haven’t panned out as hoped, but Adams does have a minor league option remaining and could hold some appeal to rebuilding clubs in need of pitching depth.
pinkerton
I would never shave for 324 million.
bballblk
I would shave for $3.24
Yankeepride88
Good thing you’ll never get that opportunity
pinkerton
I’m just glad I missed the chance to be a Yankees fan!
Just_a_thought
I’m sure you are! Just as I’m sure that your choice to be a Yankee troll has been much more fulfilling, noble, and original
whynot 2
You are never too late to jump on the bandwagon like 80% of their fan base did during their last run of success.
Yankeefan24
95% of our fan base supports the Giants, Jets and Knicks.
pinkerton
it actually really makes me happy
njbirdsfan
That’s really cute…you people literally troll every other fanbase and then act innocent.
Metsfan78
Actually it’s usually
Mets & Jets
Yankees & Giants
Hockey Rangers and as for basketball if In Brooklyn the Nets & everywhere else Knicks
whynot 2
The giants and the jets? So you mean they jump on the bandwagon of whichever is doing well. You sir have proven my point.
ChefJersh
First of all the Jets never do well so that’s absurd. He’s comparing fans in NY that generally root for one team or the other depending on if they grew up a Met or Yankee fan.
AtlSoxFan
So if I understand right, there’s the born losers (mets/jets) and those who like to see the occasional championship (yankees/giants)?
Heck, if I were a mets fan I might at least choose the team that historically won sometimes (giants) to offer things.
Is it kind of like being a masochist?
Just seem an odd pairing is all
Mrivers
Knicks are irrelevant, though for 20 years running.
Just_a_thought
That’s great, to each their own, as they say! Keep up the good work. You’re like the dark knight of the comment section, mlbtr needs you.
joblo
Why would they support the San Francisco Giants!
Yankeefan24
@whynot no, that’s an inference you’ve made all on your own. Do you need me to spell it out for you?
Begamin
Metsfan78
Im the rare Yankees-Jets combo. Its great and awful at the same time lol
Eatdust666
True and rooting for those teams has been pretty painful lately. Oh well, at least the Yankees have not had a losing season since 1992.
southbeachbully
@Yankeefan24
Most of my observations among my friends/fam is Yanks/Giants/Knicks or Mets/Jets/Nets.
fair-critic
ZING
Old User Name
It’s weird how the whole shaving thing is more important to fans than the players who actually have to do the shaving.
canadianyankee
It seems it’s actually a bigger deal to non Yankee fans…jealousy is a stinky cologne
TheMick7
It’s because the players are adults about it and understand the business side. Fans like Pinkerton, or whatever her name is, take every nuanced detail to the extreme just to prove she’s not a Yanks fan.
And for everything I hear about Yankees fans, I rarely, if ever see them troll any other team’s site. Conversely, it seems fans of other teams feel they somehow give their team more credibility by bashing ours.
pasha2k
When I troll it’s to give kudos to Cashman for his brilliance. I just think he had done a fantastic job like last yr, giving the team all the players he did do they finished so high, no matter who was on the mound.
fair-critic
amen!
TheMick7
That’s cool, but I wouldn’t consider that trolling, per se.
MoRivera 1999
pasha2k
classy.
AtlSoxFan
@themick7-
Lots of people like to troll against either success, or, the team who robbed it from them. I can think of 27 solid reasons many people hate the yankees, and probably a couple dozen more for alcs/alds eliminations.
There’s plenty who troll the boston teams for all their recent success. (Sox/celts/etc.)
I leave out the pats because, even though I grew up in MA and support almost every team, I HATE the pats. (GreW up rooting against them because my favorite uncle loved em, and their combination of cheating and attitudes keep that bias in place )
Dodgethis
Yeah, the Yankees won about 20 of those in a league with no competition and rules in place to prevent competition. How many times have the Yankees won since the playing field was leveled? 1? Not liking the Yankees isn’t “hate” or jealousy or any of that nonsense. The Yankees are a joke of an organization living in the past and run by a man who is a shadow of his father. Yankees fans are the worst. Entitled, self grandizing morons who think living in New York makes them better than everyone else, or playing for or working for an orginaztion in New York is just so much harder than anywhere else. It’s simply not true, and the rest of us can’t help but laugh at your pathetic delusions. It’s like the Lakers and the Celtics thinking they are awesome because they won when there was zero competition. Yankee fans are homers.
AtlSoxFan
@dodgethis:
I don’t recall the time yankees/redsox fans ambushed at a baseball game and beat someone leaving them paralyzed for life and then getting someone sentenced to prison.
Oh wait, that was a dodgers fan who did that.
Just_a_thought
This is either the best troll job the internet has ever seen or it’s an entirely new complex that Freud will not have the pleasure to diagnose. Or maybe this is a Freudian slip by dodgethis. The possibilities are magnificent. One thing is for certain, I dodged taking this baseless comment seriously.
joblo
@Dodgethis obviously hasn’t met a Cubs fan.
southbeachbully
Dodgethis
Pure nonsense. What do you mean by “no competition”? That’s an insult to the rest of the league. Money doesn’t guarantee you winning. And even from the 90s Yanks they were built off of a solid core of players and unlike most teams, the Yanks retained most of their stars and that’s really when the payroll went up. Keeping Williams, Jeter, Mo, Petite and Posada was expensive. And clearly, since the Dodgers have seem their payroll balloon of late and are still without a chip it proves that being the biggest spender doesn’t guarantee you anything. For you it’s what, 31 years and counting?
Mendoza Line 215
Pash-Except Cashman could have had Cole at 30% of the AAV two years ago for two years for two guys who cannot play the field and a pitcher who they just released.
He may generally do a good job but he whiffed on that one big time so I would question how brilliant he is.
It is also easy like the Dodgers to have two and three players per position when you have unlimited funds.
ovelarde
Jajajajajaja you hate the Yankees, 25 years with winning record, that’s not living in the past, people like make laugh!!!
MoRivera 1999
pinkerton
“I would never shave for 324 million.”
Then you’re a bloody moron, which is probably why you’ll never have the opportunity.
whynot 2
Taking the bait again!
moody
No sense of humor yo…
todd76
Watch this Chance Adams get picked up by a rival team and go on to be a hall of famer!
whynot 2
Congrats to the Yankees for having the second best pitcher in NY!
rivera42
Severino?
Just_a_thought
Degrom
AlvaroEspinoza 2
Poor guy is 17 above .500 for his career. Cole was 15 above last year.
throwinched10
I think DeGrom is better, but are you comparing wins?
juanpursuit
Wins are a terrible stat.
southbeachbully
@throwinched10
I don’t think he’s using wins to compare the players. He’s using it to show that although DeGrom is great the Mets have wasted his elite production for lack of support thus the low number of wins above .500 compared to the 2019 version of Cole. Valid point.
5TUNT1N
Degrom is better but this reminds me of Matt Cain in his prime with the Giants. Dude goes out throws a gem gets a loss because lack of run support!
AlvaroEspinoza 2
Yes, thank you SouthBeach for reading between the lines
rivera42
Haha, I know what he meant. I was just messing with him. I’ll take Cole going forward, though. He is 29 whereas deGrom is 31.
TheMick7
Uh, hold on little fella:
COLE: DEGROM:
WAR 7.4. 7.0
XFIP 2.48. 3.11
FIP 2.64. 2.67
ERA 2.50. 2.43
You were saying?
dugmet
poor yankee fan does not understand performance metrics.
MoRivera 1999
Poor Yankee hater loses over stats, can’t admit it. And Cole pitches in the league that score more runs! BWAHAHAHA!
scarfish
Hard agree on the ‘wins are a terrible stat’
clepto
All, note the magical “instantaneous” up vote. Wonder how? Hmm, thats a mystery.
teufelshunde4
Cole played on a cheating team, & in a crap division.
TheMick7
Uh, explain the metrics please…. I enjoy learning
Dugmet, I am talking to you. Please enlighten me…. I really would love to learn your metrics and how they apply relative to both leagues.
MoRivera 1999
clepto – you might notice all the Yankee comments are getting upvotes. We’re supportive of each other. Why don’t you focus on saying something substantive about baseball for once instead of just attacking other posters, like themed. I notice you have a large stick up your butt.
whynot 2
Is that career or 2019?
TheMick7
The metrics are 2019 because we are talking about the best pitcher right now.
TheMick7
Clepto, I upvoted him because I agreed with what he said; jealousy is unbecoming, sir.
TheMick7
Dugmet, please stop Googling to see if you’re right and enlighten me. I would appreciate a lesson from someone with such analytical prowess. I’m here to learn, sir.
whynot 2
Funny how selective you are with your reasoning. Best pitcher right now should include past performance. Hence Cole is the #2 pitcher in NY. If you are looking at all of baseball he would still be behind Scherzer and probably on par with Strasburg.
rocky7
Maybe wins aren’t a stat that tells the whole story, but for us non-millennials …certainly a stat that has to be in the mix when judging a pitchers worth to his team, or against other pitchers.
MoRivera 1999
whynot
Pffft! It’s perfectly legit to compare stats for 2019 to say who is the best pitcher (now). You’re just doing what’s convenient for you. Have you actually compared stats for Cole, Scherzer, and Stras or are you just being lazyand saying whatever comes to mind again?
Perksy
We don’t need that millennial jargon
TheMick7
Ok, well actually, I was comparing DeGrom with Cole as stipulated in my narrative. It should be evident………. but, then again, you are the notorious Mr. Whynot.
southbeachbully
@scarfish
What are you ppl missing? He was refering to the fact that despite DeGrom being perhaps the best pitcher in baseball in the last 2 years his TEAM doesn’t provide run support thus resulting in a low number of wins above .500. It’s more of an indictment on the Mets and not DeGrom.
AtlSoxFan
@southbeachbully-
Whose career has been more wasted – deGrom, or Trout?
AtlSoxFan
@Mo etal…
I dislike both wins and era as a stat because they have a team component to them.
I like era+ and FIP… even xFIP. They remove the team bias and location bias collectively.
Now, having said that, I think Cole is a brilliant pitcher. I am curious if he can keep that performance up, there are (imo) 3 teams in baseball that revive pitchers careers or take them to the next level like nobody else…
HOU, OAK, TB. (Yes I know other teams like pit/stL develop well but I’m talking changing/fixing someone.
Will cole be able to keep those adjustments up over the years? It’ll be exciting to watch.
rez2405 2
Wasted as in not winning a world series?
In that logic anybody who has played for the Mets, Dodgers, and the Yankees these past 10 years have had their careers being wasted
MurderersRow27
@AtlSoxFan
Up to this point, and as good as deGrom is, it’s been Trout’s career that has been wasted more.
AtlSoxFan
@rez2405 – wasted as in not bringing in the other pieces to have a realistic shot at competing.
Both deGrom and Trout have had great careers, but, haven’t once had any realistic shot at ting to win a ring. Their teams have cheaped out on coaching and med staff and players if you look at the final results of the years they’ve played.
whynot 2
Im working so i don’t have the time or interest to look up stats. You can do that if you’d like. I’m just speaking from what I can see and stats are not needed to see Cole is not the best pitcher in NY, we shall see what the future holds but for now he is #2.
TheMick7
Wow, I bet with the time it took you to write the 35 posts on this site you had plenty of time to look up stats….. here’s another one for you: Cole led DeGrom in ERA+ also….. so you may want to get your eyes checked.
Problem is.. you all come on this site and make arbitrary, subjective claims and when someone exhale goes that with factual-based information, you double-down and make excuses or resort to insults. So why don’t you and all the other people on this site to try to impress with your naysaying go to another site, preferably one of your own teams and let adults talk.
Eatdust666
I’m going to say Trout, because he’s been more consistently dominant that deGrom, even though he has become one of the most dominant starting pitchers in the majors and Trout has no playoff victories to add to his legacy. On the other hand, deGrom, who has also been to the playoffs just once has a World Series appearance, but got beat up in his only start, which was even after being lights out against the Dodgers and the Cubs.
southbeachbully
@AtlSoxFan
If the goal is to win championships then yes, the Mets and the Angels have wasted the performances of deGrom and Trout thus far,
If any team can be a poster child for spending without moving the win needle it;s the Angles.
Pujuls @ $181 mil and counting.
Upton @ $56 mil thus far
Trout @ $112 mil thus far.
The fact that Trout has only played in 3 post-season games is a shame for him.
southbeachbully
@AtlSoxFan
Trout and it isn’t much of a debate. He’s a great pitcher but he’s already 31 and has appeared in 3 post-season runs including a WS. However, unless he pitches at an elite level for the rest of his career he’s likely going to be considered a pitcher who had a great career but not a HOF. Nothing wrong with that. Bret Saberhagen won 2 Cy Youngs and had a great career.
On the other hand, Trout is already being called an all-time great. He’s already won 3 MVP’s tied with a few others. If he wins another he’ll be 2nd only to Bonds. If he never wins a WS he would be the only guy with 3 or more MVPs that has never even played in a WS. Bonds of course never won a WS but at least he appeared in a 7 game WS that he destroyed w/ a 1.994 OPS.
I don’t think it would hurt his legacy if he never won a WS but it would be an absolute travesty if he doesn’t at least appear in one.
southbeachbully
Trout and it isn’t much of a debate. He’s (deGrom) a great pitcher
nyy42
Tyler Glasnow?
nyy42
Sorry missed the NY
24TheKid
DeGrom.
MoRivera 1999
Uh, hold on little fella:
COLE: DEGROM:
WAR 7.4. 7.0
XFIP 2.48. 3.11
FIP 2.64. 2.67
ERA 2.50. 2.43
You were saying?
And Cole pitches in the league with a DH.
– The Mick7
clepto
..and yet another self upvote. a real confidence problem eh??
MoRivera 1999
And yet another throwaway comment. Have you anything substantive to say?
spinach
Would love to see Noah outdo Cole this year. He in fact has solidly better career FIP (2.92 to to 3.06) and K/BB (4.67 to 4.24). Could probably get good odds on it, too.
Good luck to Mr. Cole:
1. Out from Verlander’s shadow
2. Out of “Let’s help the players by…” Houston
3. Pitching under more scrutiny than anyone is baseball. (In the history of baseball?)
whynot 2
No pressure at all
Yankeefan24
Obviously working with Houston staff has changed Cole’s approach (great article in 538 about this if you haven’t read it) so career number comparison doesn’t do 2020 Cole justice – let alone how generous that is for an obviously declining Thor (1.31 FIP in 7 2017 starts, 2.8 next year, 3.6 this year). Then again he’s only 26. We’ve never seen a young superstar Mets pitcher decline so rapidly so young right? Oh wait….
throwinched10
What about the last two years? Syndergaard is vastly overrated. Mets should trade him and get some prospect value. It’s only a matter of time before Syndergaard goes public again and complains about his catcher or something else useless.
MoRivera 1999
spinach
Cole pitches in the DH league. Those FIP’s are a wash.
clepto
^ and another….
MoRivera 1999
No one will uprate your comments because they’re worthless. Post something of substance and maybe you’ll get an uprate too. You might notice that ALL the Yankee comments are getting uprates. But probably not. Selective commentary.
clepto
apparently you have a similar problem, but at least I dont have a confidence problem, there, little one.
MoRivera 1999
Yes you do. You can’t do anything but attack other people on these boards. That’s a confidence problem.
clepto
..but not all Pro yankee comments are an “instant” upvote.
you know it and i know it….you upvote your own crap because…well….its weak. Makes you feel better, doesnt it?
And it wasnt just today this happens, and you know that as well….
MoRivera 1999
Yes, because you are the wizard of Oz. Know all, see all. And you have nothing better to do with your useless time. You almost never comment about baseball. Just attack other posters. Because you’re a very small man.
itsmeheyhi
I upvoted them all
melkor77
I upvoted this.
AtlSoxFan
@Spinach-
Name one, JUST ONE, allegation against the astros that was to inflate performance of or help the pitchers cheat?
Otherwise you lose most credibility by your accusation under number 2, because AFAIK Cole never hit at home and wasn’t signed to be a hitter
Yankeefan24
Cole is the best relevant NY pitcher, at least. Too bad your team’s owner doesn’t spend money in his team to make them competitive like Steinbrenner does. But hey.. Wilpon gonna Wilpon! Pretty awful what you guys are doing to DeGrom in queens. Let the man compete for a chip. Nice win-now Cano trade at least
Roll
I believe Degrom has competed in a world series this decade but have the yankees? Free Cole and Severino and Judge and Torres.
Yankeefan24
If you‘re going to argue that on a going forward basis the Mets are in better shape than the Yankees you’re not much more than a petty lil troll or delusional. Tom Petty. And FYI if Yankees did “free“ those players Mets probably wouldn’t even make a bid. Wilpon needs that money for himself you know..
Ralphie
Dumbest comment on here.
Yankeefan24
Funniest thing is you’re on this message board trolling. If Mets signed someone significant we would be checking on the Knicks score, because none of us think the Mets are relevant enough to warrant our attention. Seriously though you’re missing the T from your username
whynot 2
Yet here you are… interesting
spinach
You didn’t respond to his comment about which team has been to the WS this decade. Lame.
MoRivera 1999
The Giants are the dynasty of the decade. Even though they have won 3 and the Sox have won 4, the Giants are still the dynasty of the century, because they won 3 in 5 years. 4 in 15 years in not a dynasty. It’s impressive, but it’s not a dynasty. The Giants, that was a dynasty. The Asterisks, not even close.
AtlSoxFan
Second place is first loser.
If you don’t hoist the trophy all you did was get inferior draft selection order.
Chance to compete? Great for the memories of the player, but ain’t gonna get your plaque on the wall.
Yankeefan24
@whynot Yes I am and it’s fun to argue with a dumb Mets fan on a Yankee post. Do you see Mets anywhere on the post? That’s rhetorical – this is basically a Yankees forum that a Mets fan went out of his way to check on and troll. I can’t imagine a more hilarious image than a Yankee fan going to a Mets post to troll. It’s actually too absurd to picture.
Yankeefan24
@spinach I did – I’ll repost below for you. To clarify why Roll’s WS comment was nonresponsive, I was pointing out the (nonexistent) spending habits of Mets ownership and how little Wilpon decides to invest in his roster relative to the Mets’ market, which is second to none. The fact the Mets enjoyed the most forgettable World Series appearance in the past 50 years is irrelevant to my comment.
Original response-
If you‘re going to argue that on a going forward basis the Mets are in better shape than the Yankees you’re not much more than a petty lil troll or delusional. Tom Petty. And FYI if Yankees did “free“ those players Mets probably wouldn’t even make a bid. Wilpon needs that money for himself you know..
southbeachbully
@whynot
Congrats to the Mets for wasting the prime years of Degrom. 2 Cy Young seasons wasted with only 21 wins to show for it. Good for you.
whynot 2
Still fun to watch him pitch… what’s your point? He is still the best pitcher in NY. Can’t argue with that.
MoRivera 1999
“Uh, hold on little fella:
COLE: DEGROM:
WAR 7.4. 7.0
XFIP 2.48. 3.11
FIP 2.64. 2.67
ERA 2.50. 2.43
You were saying?”
– The Mick7
And Cole pitches in the league with a DH.
clepto
^ and another. thats 4.
whynot 2
You really like the cut and paste… is that career or 2019. I don’t care enough to look it up, but I’m sure you do
MoRivera 1999
clepto
Go ahead. Count the ones that aren’t uprated if you’ve got any intellectual honesty.
MoRivera 1999
Whynot
“I don’t care enough to look it up, but I’m sure you do”
Not surprising that the guy who offhandedly claims DeGrom is better doesn’t look up the stats. Those were 2019.
clepto
the ones not upvoted AFTER i called you out? Hmm….wonder what that will prove?
Exactly my point, my slow witted friend. Funny how it stopped AFTER…
Timeline:
5 for 5 single instaneous upvotes
Call out
4 for 4 zero upvotes.
Hmm. As I said, you know it and I know it.
MoRivera 1999
No, most of those comments were made before. I didn’t notice your comment until I made a round through the comment board… What a small person you are.
TheMick7
I upvoted him after you called him out because I agreed with a point he made above so the theory you posit, sir, has been officially debunked.
clepto
Mick, it was after. Go research and report back what I just told you.
TheMick7
I upvoted this one too. It is a valid point that one comes to a site for an opposing team to claim his team has the best pitcher, only to be proven wrong and resort to: I don’t care about proof, this about my opinion? Wow, good conversation, although I appreciate your candidness.
Clepto, are you now asking me to research? That’s a strange turn of events – let me ponder that. And why would I report back what you just told me – that Is counterintuitive.
whynot 2
Thats all it took for you to take the bait
TheMick7
Your comment about taking bait is curious, do explain…..Senor Whynot
whynot 2
Are you sitting in your mom’s basement decked out in head to toes yankee gear like a good boy?
MoRivera 1999
clepto
You always trash these comment boards with your silly, petty attacks. Nice job.
clepto
nice job displaying your lack of confidence with self upvoting.
….we all know now.
TheMick7
That must be your go-to. You should find a different one. Apparently someone liked the post because you’re tool. Nonetheless, your persistence about confidence and your desire to laser-focus on the upvote reflects your need for attention and likely psychological help. It is okay to go outside little guy….
And I think the only one upvoting matters to, is you!
MoRivera 1999
clepto
5 uprates, 4 zero/no rates? Yeah, that never was an accurate count. More like 5/10. Intellectual honesty? Not for you.
clepto
Denial. Its a disease, weak one. Again, you know you have been caught. We all do.
stevecohenMVP
let me know when cole wins 2 cy youngs in a row in a league where he should have won easily.
MoRivera 1999
Cole did win. He was the dominant pitcher. They just gave it to Verlander because of the No Hitter. He also had superior stats to DeGrom, even though he pitches in the league with the DH.
southbeachbully
@whynot
I wasn’t arguing anything. Just basically telling you that you’re argument means nothing since the Mets waste his best years.
Just_a_thought
Clepto, question for you- After a long day of pathetically calling out people on the internet for being pathetic, which do you take off first when you get home – your clown shoes or your red nose?
Finlander
You guys are seriously funny! SNL cast members or what??!! I cancelled my Direct TV, got all the entertainment a hopelessly stoic Finlander needs here.
BTW, was there a qualifier stating the “best NY pitcher” had to be a starter? I’d at least nominate Chapman…besides his dominating heat getting the final outs of ballgames, he also brought you Gleybar while loaned to Chicago for only a couple months or so. That’s worthy of consideration..
Ralphie
You freaking mets fans, the Yankees live in your head. You couldn’t just say congrats to the Yankees cause that would show class which is something you obviously don’t have.
whynot 2
Comments about class from a Yankee-phile, that’s funny
whynot 2
That wouldn’t be much fun would it
njbirdsfan
Wow, now you want congratulations for throwing a bunch of money around?
Maybe a medal for all the World Series Cashman has been to this decade while we’re at it?
MoRivera 1999
Did you jump on the Red Sox when they signed Price or Sale? Did Red Sox fans complain about spending money then? Um, no.
clepto
^and another. thats 5.
MoRivera 1999
You neglected to count all the ones that weren’t uprated. Guess you have no intellectual honesty. Go figure.
AtlSoxFan
@njbirdsfan- apparently you don’t get it.
Its not congrats for “throwing money around” or arte moreno would be the most acclaimed guy in sports.
Congrats are for putting together better presentations during face-to-face meetings with cole. (Didn’t you read reports of teams sales pitches?)
Congrats are for making a player feeling welcome and convincing him, despite a number of very similar offers, to come to your team.
Congrats are for stepping up to try to put the best possible product on the field for your fans.
So, YES, congrats yankees for announcing the signing of a cornerstone that puts you all in and should lead to some quality baseball.
TheMick7
Uh, hold on little fella:
COLE: DEGROM:
WAR 7.4. 7.0
XFIP 2.48. 3.11
FIP 2.64. 2.67
ERA 2.50. 2.43
You were saying?
MoRivera 1999
Whynot shows up to prove once again that a Yankee article can’t be posted without a Red Sox hater showing up to dump in it. Conversely when a Red Sox article is posted Yankee fans are civil. Thanks for proving the point, once again.
whynot 2
not a Red Sox fan at all, not even close, haha
MoRivera 1999
ok, a hater. You’ve sounded like a whyhazee/whynot type Red Sox fan in the past.
whynot 2
What does that even mean?
MoRivera 1999
Think a little harder. whyhayzee is another commenter. A Red Sox fan. He’s here all the time, too. You sound like each other.
The_M4N
Thank you sir. That’s no knock considering that deGrom is a stud. It’s a shame that at one point that organization had him behind the Dark Knight and behind Thor in the depth chart, despite deGrom’s minor league career. Says a lot about the organization. Oh btw, congrats on having the fourth best baseball team in NY. And, that’s no knock 😉
lowtalker1
Im sure someone else will give him a chance
roman411
You see his 2018 & 2019 ERAs? Not a Chance.
mlb1225
I know for a fact a team like the Orioles, Marlins, or Tigers will give him a chance.
lowtalker1
Watch the As, Mariners, giants or a large ball park team take a flyer.
No Soup For Yu!
Maybe not an immediate MLB chance, but players with respectable AAA numbers almost always get a minor league deal (unless there’s something wrong with him from a health standpoint). He’ll be a depth signing and will probably get another shot at the majors in the next year or two.
joew
You see his MiLB numbers.. someone will give him a job. I’m hoping the pirates, hes young cheap and controllable with a pretty good upside. If it doesn’t work it doesn’t work.. but worth a shot.
i don’t see it happening though.
ERA is really not a stat people use any more outside arbitration and awards. but the other stats support how bad he was in his 30sum total innings over two seasons appearing in 16 games… with that small of a sample… yeah… you really do not have enough to judge.
AtlSoxFan
TB may like what they see, especially having had scouts view him in the past
Central Valley
I’d rather have Madison Bumgarner on the mound in a must win game.
Foreveryankees
Five years ago
GareBear
I’d take Cole over Bumgarner in a game 7 stand off, but to each their own
AtlSoxFan
How many times do they need to hit in the game, bases loaded, where they’re the only chance to score? Might change my mind….
Then again, probably not.
ForestCobraAL
When do World Series tickets go on sale?
clepto
They dont. The owners keep them to themselves and sell for cash at a premium price.
24TheKid
What happened to Chance Adams, I wasn’t really paying attention to prospects very closely a few years ago? His stats show he was dominating every level for a few years and then fell off a cliff.
Just_a_thought
Seems that he lost his fastball. Though it was not elite, it was solid enough to make his decent secondary pitches that much more effective. To date, it does not seem like his fastball has returned to the pre-2018 levels that saw his stock rise quickly
luclusciano
He was never expected to be an elite pitcher – maybe a string 3. And he still could. From what I remember he was more of a placement pitcher than a power pitcher – low 90’s – with a mid 90’s occasional pop. He snuck up behind Sheffield and then when the spotlight went on him, he didn’t handle well.
He could still be a solid option, but he needs that confidence back.
southbeachbully
@luclusciano
I don’t think the “spotlight” had anything to do with it. He had an injury and wasn’t the same plus…it takes more than having a good fastball to win at the mlb level. Maybe he can find his way, maybe not. Won’t be the first or the last.
thirteen
Bummer about Chance Adams. Guy showed legit potential before having a pretty awful year and a half. Sometimes it takes time for a pitcher to make the transition; I’m sure he’ll find a home with an organization that has the time and inclination to work with him (like Pittsburgh).
thomps07
Will they make him shorten his hair as well?
User 4245925809
Good point. remember Johnny Damon became almost unrecognizable when he signed with the yanks. he looked like kind of a caveman with that long hair and scraggly beard he wore in Boston, then had the near military style cut and clean shaven face with NY
mike156
I would give Adams a chance.
throwinched10
I am sure that plenty of teams are willing to give Chance an Adams.
2012orioles
Orioles pick up Adams please
ocsportsgeek
Shave and a haircut…1296 million bits!
Vizionaire
the real reason baseball’s popularity decreases is disparity of the sports.
southbeachbully
@Vizionaire
Right…disparity. That’s why 18 different teams have won a WS in the last 30 years (1989) compared to the NBA where 11 teams have won most of the NBA titles in the last 39 years.
Begamin
Right? Hes acting like the Yankees win it every year. He’s probably the first person to also say that the Yankees havent won anything in forever too, but whatever.
If you actually look at the World Series matchups and winners recently, they are very interesting.
Cubs-Indians/Astros-Dodgers/Royals-Mets/Nationals-Astros
Its not like its Lebron v. Golden State for 5 years in a row and where before that it was Lebron & friends wearing black and red v. the world
TheMick7
He also said the same thing before, in other threads, but has no factual basis for making such claims, particularly when I’ve pointed out, more than once, that baseball revenue is at an all-time high – it is a 10-billion-dollar industry.
Like most other commenters he prefers to deal in the hypothetical or conjectured arena; they are the antithesis of logical, fact-based people.
AtlSoxFan
The real reason baseball isn’t as popular: it’s the only real sport without an actual halftime break of 20 minutes to do what you wI’ll without missing action…
steelerbravenation
Chance Adams will catch on with a big park team like the Giants or Mariners and be moved to the bullpen and have a successful career. Always saw him as a bullpen guy.
Although I am a Brave fan I do watch a massive amount of Yankee games and have to listen to their sports talk station all day while driving my truck. Their announcers suck on TV.
deweybelongsinthehall
I thought Adams at one time was a high prospect. Yankee fans trolled this site when Boston releases Henry Owens, Where are those fans now? Good luck Chase.
MoRivera 1999
Probably like one fan. Yankees fans pretty much never troll Red Sox artilce. Red Sox fans jump all over Yankee articles. I’ve noted that in the articles several times now. Also, many of the commenters here speaking positively of Adams are non-Yankee fans, some of whom want their team to pick him up. The Yanks would have kept him if they space…
AtlSoxFan
Although there are some red sox fan trolls(as all teams have) I think many of what you see are bandwagoners who aren’t truly sox fans.
They hear about “the rivalry” and feel entitled to run their mouths, even though they don’t understand anything about it.
I do not claim them as red sox fans though, and they’ll move on to whatever team opens up a competitive window next most likely.
ctguy
Who is Chase???
Jays4life1500
Jays should take a chance on chance
8
Finally!
BeeVeeTee
What’s the over and under with when the Yankees’ fans and the New York media starts bad mouthing Cole when he doesn’t live up to this contract?
Begamin
Give it his first start, if its bad they’ll run the papers with silly headlines that gophers will actually believe.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
So, they were willing to trade Chance Adams for Cole after all.
The Red Sox and Nationals raised flags in the meantime, but…better late than never.
Ryan The Riot Theriot
I’m hoping the Cubs can scoop up Adams. The depth in the upper minors is getting closer to the majors, but most of the high ceiling guys are in A or AA ball. I think Adams could land with a team where he gets a shot at the rotation out the gate, but the Cubs desperately need some near MLB depth and Adams was a big name prospect not too long ago.
mr. g
Or could be a bullpen piece for the Cubs. The Cubs are still hibernating though until Bryant’s grievance is settled. Unless they can get him on a minor league contract, which seems yo be their only game plan so far.
Roll
I wish Cole the best and hope he continues on a great career. I just hope being out of the shadows and being in the spotlight especially in ny doesnt effect him. (fyi i would feel the same if he was with the mets or yankees)
whyhayzee
If any of their dozens of over hyped chance adams turned out to be any good they wouldn’t need to buy a $324 million razor blade. Pitiful.
MoRivera 1999
Glad to see you made it for the Red Sox dumping. Wouldn’t be a Yankee article without the Red Sox fans showing up to dump. Whereas when Red Sox articles are posted, Yankees fans are civil. Nice job. Keep up the anti-social work.
ctguy
The crybaby Yankee haters are out today. BooHoo !
Mr.Ward14
Chew on this Arte!
dvmin98
Welcome to El Paso, Mr. Adams. Rothschild would like to say hello
julyn82001
Aw bless the Yankees and their non-facial hair policy. It’s a game – business oriented or otherwise… And Kids are watching too.
Begamin
Are you ok?
angt222
Chance Adams to the Orioles for Cash considerations!
Web
Adams was given plenty of chances
southbeachbully
@Web
33 IP isn’t exactly being given a chance. That’s not to say he was expected to be a FOR but if he were on a team with less expectations where wins/loses weren’t so stressed over, he would probably get consistent starts before being moved to the bullpen. It is what it is. Yanks threw him in their because of injuries to others and he couldn’t get the job done. I wish him well.
skyyalpha
Does Adams have minor league options left? Seems like the kind of guy the Dodgers would want.
joew
looks like he has one left.
njbirdsfan
Chance Adams…another in the long line of can’t miss Yankee prospects.
The Yankees haven’t been to the World Series in over a decade, but thank God they still have their precious prospects.
billysbballz
Says the fan of the cheating cardinals who get rewarded a supplementary first round pick every year for being a small market team?
Lmao
Small market? Let that sink in!
clepto
UPVOTED!
Begamin
Yes no other team has high rated prospects that dont pan out
TheMick7
I upvoted this statement from Benjamin!
Dorothy_Mantooth
Cole is a beast, but the Yankees need to win in the next 2 years before they’ll have some tough choices to make. Judge will be a free agent (as well as Sanchez) and Torres will be close to Mookie Betts arbitration salary range, 3 years from now ($30M). So Cole & Stanton will be on the books for $71M, Judge will command $30M+, so that’s over $131M for just 4 players! Let’s assume they resign Paxton for $24M to go along with Severino ($10M) & Aaron Hicks ($10M). That’s $175M for 7 players!!! That doesn’t leave much room for them to fill the extra 19 roster spots. At $2M per player (x 19), that gets the payroll to $213M. So the Yankees have to be in win now mode, unless they are willing to pay the highest of luxury tax penalties for years to come.
MoRivera 1999
Guess it all depends on what the new CBA says about the luxury tax. If its raised or eliminated, the money payroll needed to keep players will be less of an issue.
AtlSoxFan
Although salaries are increasing, I think some of your numbers are a bit high. As judge ages, his build probably moves him over to 1b/dh which should depress his salary.
Torres has the makings of being a beast at 2b. However, he’s not quite to the level that mookie put up yet, with an ops+ aboit 20% better than league average. (and to be honest, mookies arb numbers are skewed by one anomalous career year being 186 ops+.)
Will there be decisions and tax penalties?absolutely. But I think it’ll be a little better than you fear.
yanks02026
Judge aint making 30 million plus when he’ll be hitting free agency at the age of 31. Paxton aint getting 24 with having a history of injuries.
Just_a_thought
Though I see your point of increased payroll, the Nats have nearly $90M for 3 SPs. Granted, they let Harper walk and lost out on Rendon. This is a bridge the Yankees likely will have to cross, but it doesn’t seem like the Nats missed Harper at all. Also, where do you get $71M between Cole ($36M) and Stanton ($23M)? Still a lot for 2 players, yet, wrong by around $12M.
Chris Giarraputo
Judge will be a FA at 32 I believe. 1 full season playing in 3 years thus far. Judge will not get a huge deal, if he’s smart he will sign a extension within the next year. Plus he may be expendable if he turns into a DH and Miggy and Stanton are around. Sanchez will not be a max deal player unless 2020 he turns into a different player all together. Judge and Sanchez are big dudes for their positions and all teams need to do is look at Stanton to see how size=higher rate of injury.
I see Cashman trying to extend Judge this year. Sanchez no rush, Torres you have to at least try. Even if you buy out 1-2 FA years you get cost certainty. And like another guy said the new CBA will be key. $ will never be a problem it will be the risk vs reward ratio that matters. If the yanks win a couple WS in next 3-4 years they will be flush with $ and even a CBT $ penalty would be worth keeping the core together. You talk like the Yankees are like other teams. They are so well managed financially with YES and now the Amazon deal- they need to put a top product on field as those assets will have less value if they are not tearing up MLB.
Look at Boston. Last 2 WS years were followed by embarrassing years. And if Sale, Price and Eovoldi were earning their $ by being top players I doubt they would be in this position. Why they didn’t add bullpen arms and not prep their pitchers correctly in 2019 ST I feel is a mystery that shows IMO ownership is either incompetent as they approved extending Sale so soon and giving Eovoldi that stupid contract or may not be as financially sound as we think. Look at Nats, they are looking to get better. Boston as always in my mind been a franchise that is Bi-polar going back to trading Ruth. That owner cared more about his Shows then baseball as he needed $ to produce it and current Sox I feel has winning baseball 2nd to bulking up their bank accounts.
How about Judge after this year- 6/$150? Starting in 2021. Both parties take a risk with yanks greater.
Chris Giarraputo
Yankees screwed up with Adams by taking a college reliever and trying to make him a starter. They are doing it with Abreu, Gil and others. Buy SP’s and use Minors as a RP farm. They can’t do much besides add velo with past minor league pitching staff. They can now start fresh with the younger guys, but turn the guys who are 23+ and failing as SP into relievers so they don’t have to Pay $10 mil+ a year for a volatile position
southbeachbully
@Dorothy_Mantooth
What are these tough “decisions”. Cole isn’t being paid $324 mil per year. Money comes on and off the books. It’s not really an issue for the Yanks.
Just as an example, Happ, Tanaka, Ellsbury, DJ and Paxton all come off the books after 2020 season. I could see DJ and Paxton being brought back and maybe even Tanaka on a more modest 1 or 2 year deal like they did CC. But likely they’ll clear about $50 mil off of the payroll.
jorge78
It only took $324 million to get Cole to shave LOL!
dodger1968
Yankees have more money than any team, play in a division with 2 of the lowest market teams and yet don’t own the division. Baseball is great in that it all comes down to the playing field, not the owners or money spent on players. Great for the players that the Yankees have the money and are willing to spend it. Brings no guarantees. That however is what makes it fun to root for teams like Tampa and Toronto. Love this game
ForestCobraAL
Yankees – Dodgers
Yankees – Dodgers
Yankees – Dodgers
Yankees – Dodgers
Yankees – Dodgers
Next five World Series.
MoRivera 1999
Funny to see a Dodger fan dig the Yankees about spending money and playing in a weak division. Like the Dodgers don’t spend money or they have a team like the Red Sox around to compete with. Also this is the first year the Yankees have led baseball in spending in a while. The Red Sox set the previous record at $246M in 2018, when they “bought” the Series. But go on. We’re listening.
AtlSoxFan
Sorry Mo, you’re wrong on that one. Oddly enough, it was the dodgers who set the record for team payroll a couple years back, not the red sox.
2015 – $301,735,080
That should stand up for a while.
Eatdust666
Yeah, because let’s be honest, are there really any teams that would be stupid enough to have a $300+ million payroll in the future?
southbeachbully
@dodger1968
Since when is Toronto a small market team??? The city is the 5th largest in North America and owns all of Canada as far as baseball is concerned. When the team plays well, the fans come out to support. During their run in the early 90s they were drawing over 4 mil people. Just to provide some context, The Yanks haven’t drawn over 4 mil since 2008. I certainly would not put Toronto in the same category as Tampa Bay who haven’t cracked 2 mil in attendance since their inaugural year when they saw 2.5 mil fans. And the Rogers family is worth about $13 billion compared to the Steinbrenner family who are worth about $3.5 billion. Point is, Toronto ownership isn’t concerned with investing their money into the players on the field thus, poor attendance.
Marner#16
8.18 career era LOL … tee ball pitcher!
Salvi
Yankees are so much like the the Red Sox 3 years ago. All they need to do is hire Dombrowski as GM. What am I saying they already have Cashman.
billysbballz
Strange comment? Bitter? Jealousy? Confusion?
spinach
Someone’s gotta pair Adams with Refsnyder.
canadianyankee
Anybody hearing more to the Schwarber rumour? MLB network had him going to NYY, but didn’t go much into detail…was it pot stirring or just rumblings?
billysbballz
I’m reading strong rumors on twitter.
Wonder whose going other way if true?
I can assume it’s Frazier who I maybe 1 of a very few who still hold out hope he will get a chance with the Yankees. If Schwarber can play first and occasional left it’s good they are interested in him.
southbeachbully
@billysbballz
I really don’t understand the desire to bring in another 1b. I will never compare Voit to the next Mattingly, Hernandez or whomever with the glove but thus far he’s been nothing short of great with the bat.
In 658 Ab w/ the Yanks he has a .280/.384/..517 slash w/ a .901 OPS and 35 homers. He walks a ton (14% last year). He hits RHP (.865) almost as as good as LHP (.892) over the course of his career. And with the Yanks his power wasn’t a product of YS as 22 of his 35 homers came on the road. He hits to right field the same as a lefty does.
Most importantly, we need cheap production to offset the more expensive guys and he has 5 more years of control including 2 pre-arbitration years. Leave dude alone and let’s just hope he can continue to perform/stay healthy.
davidkaner
Isn’t it more interesting if the Yankees choke after giving him the farm? They are counting on guys hitting great again, the bullpen to be stellar again & for at least two other pitchers to step up. They truly need one more innings eater non injury prone Starter to get through the season & 3 guys to pitch lights out in the playoffs.
Just_a_thought
Hot take David, scratch that… a scalding take.
southbeachbully
@davidkaner
No what they are really counting on is for the replacement players to come close to their 2019 numbers and for Severino, Judge, Stanton, Andujar, Voit, Sanchez, etc to stay healthy and produce,
A rotation of Cole/Paxton/Severino/Tanaka/German, on paper, could be the best 1-5 in the AL imo. Prove me wrong.
Whoever would’ve thought the Yanks would win 100+ games in 2019 with Severino, Stanton, Judge, Hicks, Betances, Voit, Sanchez and Didi all missing, on average, 100 games and that doesn’t include Severino and Betances only pitching 16 innings. Cole and health and Ill take my chances against any other team in baseball.
Eatdust666
Adams certainly blew his Chance.
jvent
The Mets should take a Chance on Adams