1:39pm: The Reds and Akiyama are in agreement on a three-year contract, Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets.
1:03pm: The Reds are “working hard” to finalize an agreement with free-agent center fielder Shogo Akiyama, tweets MLB Network’s Jon Heyman, who adds that bidding for the longtime Seibu Lions star now exceeds three years and $20MM. Akiyama is represented by Excel Sports Management’s Casey Close.
A report from Nikkan Sports in Japan on Monday indicated that the two sides were in agreement on a deal, but both Bobby Nightengale of the Cincinnati Enquirer and Mark Sheldon of MLB.com report that an agreement is not yet in place (Twitter links). Nikkan Sports reported that Akiyama had agreed to a three-year deal worth more than $15MM in total, but Sheldon, like Heyman, hears that bidding on the center fielder has exceeds that $15MM barometer by a “decent margin.”
Akiyama has topped 20 homers in each of the past three seasons and swiped 15-plus bags in each of the past five years. In all, since the 2015 season, he’s a .320/.398/.497 hitter. He’ll turn 32 next April, but his age doesn’t look to have been much of a hindrance in his market. He’s drawn interest from the Cubs, Diamondbacks and Padres, among others, and the fact that this winter’s free-agent market is largely devoid of quality center field options only aids his cause.
If Akiyama and the Reds do indeed finalize an agreement, he’ll be in line for regular reps and possibly push young Nick Senzel into a multi-position role, where he could log time in the infield and across the outfield. The Reds could also simply deploy Akiyama in a corner with Senzel in center, although their outfield mix also features Jesse Winker, Aristides Aquino, Scott Schebler, Phil Ervin and offseason pickups Travis Jankowski and Nick Martini.
Of that bunch, Winker and Aquino currently top the depth chart and are the favorites for regular corner work in 2020, but the entire unit carries some degree of uncertainty. Akiyama would further add to that uncertainty, but he’d also bring a good bit of upside that some of the incumbent options can’t match.
The Reds need to go all in on ichigo ichie
Better be careful, you can only do that once in a lifetime.
Domo arigato
Wow for a 32 yr old unproven ML that’s some dough their paying, $20M for three yrs. I wish the Reds the best they out bid the Padres for sure.
there is a good track record of payers coming over in recent years, and frankly 7m a year is not that much these days
If he is a 1 WAR player he is worth $7 million
Is he though? 2 WAR is replacement level. I think you can find 1 WAR for much, much cheaper than $7M.
2 WAR is an average player not replacement level. 0 WAR is replacement level. It’s called Wins Above Replacement for a reason.
I remember my dad talking about catching ichigo Iche back when he was in ‘Nam.
So Senzel plays over Moose? Don’t think so. More likely he plays left.
I think Nick may move to right.
Not much chance of SS, and 0% chance of 2b.
How about Senzel to 3B and Suarez to SS? Or Senzel to 2B, Moose to 3B and Suarez to SS? Remember SS was Suarez’ original position. He isn’t Jose Iglesias there, but he is quite serviceable there. Then I would look to re-sign Iggy as a late-game defensive replacement.
Senzel package for Lindor babyyyy. Reds WS champs 2020, go sign some relievers and get the Lindor deal done
Senzel might get them Lindor’s gardener.
Senzel was a top 10 prospect a year ago.
Lifelong Reds fan but I loved your call of the Gibson homer, Mr Scully!
With all due respect, Mr Scully, he said Senzel package, not Senzel alone. But I’m sure Lindor has an exceptional gardener.
Your missing 4 more pieces….2 if which need to be as good as him
Just as good as Senzel? That seems excessive.
Senzel alone isn’t enough to Lindor, that’s true. He is a great starting piece though. Age, pedigree, years of control. You can move him back to his natural position at third base. Indians fans I think should be really happy to build a package around Senzel.
If Cleveland asked for a package around lux/may they aren’t settling for anything the reds have to offer. They have made it clear it’s a kings ransom or hold on to him. The reds have no second piece as good as may, Ruiz, or the next 5 dodgers prospects…nor can they offer a replacement Luke Seaver to take less. And stop with years of control non sense, it only matters in proven commodities….which he isn’t or you wouldn’t pay all that for a 32 year rookie. The only 2 teams that can land Lindor are dodgers and rays….the rays obviously won’t and the dodgers aren’t gonna give up that type of ridiculous ask….so Cleveland will start the season with Lindor and see what happens. At no time did anyone report Cleveland considered Cincinnati’s offer…they just heard it
I beg to differ about who could land Lindor! Padres and Braves have just as good of not better Farm systems than Dodgers and Rays! Your just wishful thinking dodgers will give up lux and rays give up Their top prospect which WILL NOT HAPPEN. Dream more realistic
Once you remove gore from the padres, the best centerpiece is trammel, if Cleveland wanted him he would of come to Cleveland instead of Reyes and moss, so no the padres don’t….the Braves have Pacheco and maybe waters and pitching…could be done but not realistic…I’m perfectly content watching cranky play….they let Ramírez, thome, vizquell, Alomar and bell leave in free agency….didn’t kill us then won’t now. Lindor is a top 5 player, might as well try to win with him. I don’t see how the reds, padres are any closer to winning with him than Cleveland is…..so yep if you don’t get what you want, keep him which is what I basically said. You are the dreamer thinking they should give him up for any less
Lol, it’s the Kluber over-demand again. Enjoy that relief pitcher you get for Lindor a year from now.
Did everyone else commenting on this comment miss that he suggested “Senzel package” for Lindor?
Thank you martyfan lol
Lol yeah really
Yep Akiyama paves the way for the Reds to put Senzel in a deal for Lindor, and it’s known that the Reds and Indians have already talked. Better Cincinnati than an AL team, for sure
If Senzel is pushed from CF to 2B thats going to mean they burnt a lot of money and turned Moose into a bench option. More likley Senzel becomes either a trade piece, is moved to a OF corner or becomes the Reds version of Zobrist/Matt Carpenter.
No way Senzel moving to second, that’s why they signed Moustakis to play second!
Unless Moose moves to 3rd when Suarez goes to Cleveland.
How would this deal push Senzel to 2B wIth Moustakas signed??? I think you meant to say SS
Hello people — Suarez came up as a SS 🙂 He will be the one to move there.
Moustakas is at 2nd, Senzel might go to shortstop
Moustakas is at 2nd, Senzel might go to Cleveland. FTFY
Good possibility of that.
Doubt Nick goes to SS, but i could also be wrong.
Who’s on first, no he’s playing third, Heyyy Abbott
Choo was in the outfield a few years back
that’s awesome …
They wouldn’t have given Moustakas $64 mil for Senzel to play 2B
Cubs fan here but the Reds have done some nice off season work.
ty. always like when yhe cubs come to town. fans are hardcore . plus we got wgn as a kid so I watched them a lot
Shogo will likely play RF and Senzel stays put…no way he goes to 2B though
No way Shogo plays RF ahead of Aquino. The Reds fans would riot. Aquino was the only reason to watch the Reds in August and September. He will be the Opening Day RF barring injury or just a complete collapse in spring.
Yeah, Aquino’s September slash of .196/.236/.382 was super entertaining
Like the downhill part of the roller coaster.
Haha I love it as a Cards fan
So, just throw him on the bench for having a poor September? Man I hate the way some people think.
Why would the Reds fans riot? Not those who watched the rest of the season. The dude was electric for like 3 weeks. If you are going into the season with him as a starter then you’re not serious about being a playoff team. Let him be OF-4 and see if he can be anything at all next season. Don’t forget that he’s a 30 year old rookie.
Fine, just throw away every player and sign a completely different team. Of course, that wouldn’t be the Reds making the playoffs, that is a free agent team making the playoffs while wearing Reds uniforms. But since some people around here only look at the numbers and not the people, I don’t think it will matter.
Try 25 YO rookie.
If Shogo plays RF then it would have made alot more sense to just sign Corey Dickerson instead
It’s looking more likely now that maybe the Lindor deal can proceed forward. It is no secret that the Indians had Senzel at the top of their want list. Let’s sit back for 48hrs and see the wheels turn.
It was a huge secret since this is the first I’ve heard of it. Reds don’t have the money to pay Lindor. They blew their wad on Moustakas.
The $64 million spent on Moose wouldn’t even take care of a quarter of the eventual Lindor contract. Lindor is going to get near Machado money.
Except he’s still in arbitration for 2 seasons. Can they afford him after that? Probably not. But we can cross that bridge when we get there.
@Hiflew what are you talking about, do you even know? The $ spent on Moose has no bearing whatsoever on a trade for Lindor. Lindor is under contract for 2 more years.
Doesn’t necessarily have to mean Senzel moves. Start out the season with Winker and Ervin platooning in LF, Aquino in RF, Senzel in CF, and Akiyama sharing time in both CF and RF based on matchups. Let performance and/or injuries dictate who gets more/less playing time. Anyone who watched David Bell manage last year knows he’ll switch and move people around throughout the game. If Senzel isn’t traded for a high profile SS (Lindor, Story, Correa?), I do think he will play some 2B and maybe SS this year. I’d expect Moose to slide from 2B to 1B or 3B mid-game at times to give Votto or Suarez breathers to stay fresh, or even longer if injuries happen. Adding Akiyama gives options and depth, which is a must for contending teams.
Where the hell is Preller!?
Handcuffed by the Myers and Hosmer contracts.
In San Diego.
AJ is not going to pay $20M for this guy, no way he’s unproven in ML Bigs. I’d rather go after one of the remaining OF’s that’s a big gamble for a 32 yr Korean. league player
Those remaining OF’s can’t play CF.
You do realize that even at 20 mil/3, his yearly salary is about half of what Preller is paying Wil Myers, right?
“32 yr Korean League player”? He played in the NPB for the Seibu Lions, that league is in Japan.
Padres never submitted a bid.
He’s the featured speaker at the Village Idiot’s Convention .
(TY, Woody Allen)…..
On the phone with a Cherington discussing a Starling Marte trade?
He’s looking for someone who’s more of a .220 hitter with a 6-week hot streak to sign….
JBJ?
They’ll find ab’s for Senzel — although this further clouds the Reds reasons for bringing in Moustakas. Still can’t put my finger on that deal…
I was really hoping the Cubs would land him, but I’ve got to give the Reds a ton of credit for taking the necessary steps to become a contender.
32 year old singles hitter. LMAO
HAHAHAHAHA SOOOOOOO FUNNNYYYY
Someone has found a way to make millions of dollars doing something you could only dream of….
He got you on that one Vin. Some of you guys are so quick to destroy these players when half of you never played county ball.
I hope all the guys throwing stones are good at their jobs
Vin Scully had a good career foo! Don’t make me pity ya
194 extra base hits, and a .500+ slugging % 2 of the last 3 seasons would argue otherwise.
Normal drop off from their league to MLB is between 10-15% minimum. So do the math and he is just an average hitter heading into his declining years. I am glad the Cubs didn’t get him.
megaj – where did you get that stat?
I still doubt his power completely dissipates when he gets to the states. At worse, he will be a 15-18 home run, 30 doubles guy with solid speed to get around the bases, which still is really good.
Yeah, why would the Cubs want him? They’re SO set in CF.
It’s common knowledge, but I will just give a few of the best known examples. Ichiro- In Japan, he had a career .943 OPS. In MLB from age 27-35 (his prime), he had an .812 OPS. Hideki Matsui- career .995 OPS in Japan, in MLB in his prime =852 OPS. As a Cubs fan, I can tell you that F ukodome dropped down about 20% in MLB. The math doesn’t lie, there will be a drop off as MLB pitching is just at a higher level. Akiyama is older than all those guys were, so my guess is you won’t see better than .750 OPS. You can save this post and put it in my face if I am wrong later…
Well, Happ might not be a prototypical CF, but if Ross plays him every day that is a lot more offense than Akiyama would have provided.
I wanted him for the Cubs. At that price though, I agree to pass.
Post saved. Need a picture of your face now.
Who cares if he hits 20 or 5 dingers from the leadoff spot? It’s the .370 OBP that matters…
He made it up.
Seems I’m agreeing w/ douger007 often, this guy can lead off, that’s why cubs wanted him, he’ll do fine, between Aquino, Winker & Senzel they’ll do the corners someone will develop into MLB talent, still not sure what’s happening @SS though
Megaj – I haven’t checked your numbers do I’ll take your word for it. that they are accurate. However, those might be examples, but I don’t think there is a stat that says that all Japanese players follow that trend on average. I haven’t checked but I think Ohtani is not part of that math, albeit a small sample size. I could be wrong but I’m not that interested in doing the research. This guy is a good hitter and I hope it translates to MLB.
Sure I did.
Vin- I would take a .320 hitter who just hit singles any day. He’d be a small ball king: move them over, move them in. You’re digging deep for something negative to say.
Why do people think “singles hitter” is an insult? Last time I checked, hitting a single in baseball was a good thing. I cannot even imagine how Wade Boggs or Tony Gwynn would have been treated had they played today.
Boggs wasn’t a singles hitter. He has the 4th most doubles of any third baseman in history, and 13th in wRC+ among all 3B. 25% of all his hits were XBH. Gwynn has the 6th most doubles of any right fielder in history, and has the 32nd best wRC+. 24% of all of Gwynn’s hits were XBH.
.24% means you are a singles hitter.
24% is significant when you hit .350, not so much when you hit .250.
Making 75% of their hits singles. It’s not a bad thing to be a singles hitter.
Only one word is needed to end the conversation.
Ichiro
so exactly what we need but he has power
Why haven’t the Mets been linked to him?
No more money to spend.
OF is already crowded
You all Forget Suarez started as a shortstop. They can move Senzel to second, slide Suarez to short and Moose at third. Senzel can be part of a deal to the Indians for Lindor as they covet him.
And Suarez was awful at shortstop the only season he played it regularly. I highly doubt the Reds want to move Suarez to SS unless it’s an emergency.
Joey Votto started as a catcher too. Just because a player played the position years ago doesn’t mean they still can. Suarez was a average SS when he played there years ago. I doubt that either Senzel or him could play that position now.
I’d have more faith in Senzel.
Suarez was a SS 40 lbs. ago lol
You forget why Suarez was moved to third base t begin with. Plus, I’d rather have Iglesias at short over Suarez or Senzel.
Did anyone sign Iglesias yet? He’s underrated, Jose’s a slick SS
No, to be honest I forgot he was a FA. I thought he was under Reds control 1 more year.
No, Suarez was moved to 3B because when he came to the Reds, they had Zack Cozart at SS (who was coming off a very good year in 2015) and no one at 3B (Frazier had been traded). It wasn’t because he couldn’t play SS. He can. He’s slightly below average there, but he can play SS.
I think Moustakas is at 2nd. Akiyama is destined for a corner outfield spot.
Trade Senzel and a few prospects for Lindor.
Sign Castellanos or Ozuna.
2020 NL Central champs.
DREAMIN
Another nice move by the reds. This guy is a real good player, i watched him in Japan for the last 2 years.
That is going to be one interesting division next year.
I might put the Reds as the favorites.
As a cubs fan, I think the Reds are gonna win the central unless my boys get their act together
Its tough to call. Outside of Pittsburgh i wouldn’t rule anyone out.
Nl central and Nl east will be the only 2 interesting divisions this year.
It will be interesting to see what chicago does after the bryant situation is settled.
I think the Cubs are an ace short of contention this year. Hamels put a big hole in the rotation, especially since Lester has absolutely nothing left. They just ran out of money (or at least Ricketts didn’t want to spend more). The only thing that could save them is if the Braves or Mets are willing to part with Thor or Fried for Bryant, and then hope one of those pitches to their full potential as a Cub. I think the lineup will still score runs if Ross plays Happ more than Maddon did, and the bullpen should be decent if Kimbrel returns to form.
FO down there are some problems with the Cubbies
MOOKIE BETTS
Reds are gonna be really good this year. Wow
Shogo at right, Senzel in center, Winker/Aquino in left.
So you are going to just give an OF position to a guy that has never played in the majors and platoon a guy that was arguably the best power hitter in the majors the last two months of 2019? I’m not saying you are wrong for thinking that, simply because I think it should go without saying.
Every dipstick is saying a Senzel package for Lindor, but the one that puts them into serious playoff contention is the same package for Clevinger. Castillo, Gray, Bauer, AND Clevinger? Now that is a WS rotation.
Does this mean that Winker, Senzel, and Van Meter are all trade candidates? I would guess that if so, only one or two at the most would be traded.
Senzel to SS and Galvis to the bench
I think those that wonder about Senzel should also think about Winker too. Senzel can literally play anywhere but Winker only plays left field (and not very well at that). That and both Winker and Shogo are LH hitters. Unless Senzel is a major chip for Lindor, I see him staying and Winker being traded to an AL team where he can DH.
There are only 15 DH positions in the league. And yet, some commenters here seem to think that half the league should be traded to the AL to DH. It’s really comical.
^ guy that likes his own comment. Haha. It’s not that I think everyone should be shipped to the AL. Winker made the bigs because he can flat out hit. He was a top prospect coming up. I’m not saying that all American League teams would be a fit, but what I am saying is that Winker is a better fit for the AL. Better for ya?
If all 15 teams had good DH production then yeah but they don’t.
I think it’s best to say if the Padres have any interest in any big name players to just leave them out.. Everyone knows AJ 90% isn’t going to pull the trigger
They may still be looking to add Contreras. It would cost them Hedges and a couple of prospects though
I think that’s possible as long as the prospects are not in the top 35, Hedges would do well in Wrigley its a hitters park for sure and he’s one of the best defensively.
Why would the Cubs want Austin Hedges, esp for Contreras?
Because it would bring back much needed prospects as well. They could probably land Patino and Owen Miller in a Contreras trade which would fill holes down the road. Hedges would be great as a back up to Caratini for his excellent defense and ability to hit the occasional long ball. I wouldn’t mind this deal at all.
don’t give up I feel AJ is waiting to see once the smoke clears how he can package Myers with several good prospects and get a front line SP.. I also think AJ will pick up an OF (veteran utility) type guy. 2B is going to need some help, but would be really nice to get Contreras at C spot.
Great pickup. Could either keep him in center or corner spot. I think if Reds don’t trade for Lindor or Corerra then Senzel would be at short.
Line-up would then be able to drop Votto down to 3 hole where he is more comfortable
1. Akiyama
2. Senzel
3. Votto
4. Suárez
5. Moose
6. Aquino
7. Winker
8. Barnhart
They have to make a move for a SS. They can’t possibly be comfortable heading into 2020 with Galvis as their starter there. If you’re trying to win the division, would you be?
I would say they’ll probably wait for a month or two into the season to see how things go at SS Glavis, and with the new faces how’the chemistry is jelling
Your right SS needs attention, Galvis is good backup, but not on a contender
The Reds have had a nice off-season. I would say they are the favorites in that division.
I agree Pitts. is out, Cards are watching and need help, Cubs have money problems and short of some positions, Reds could do it, Milwaukee is always tough. Really comes down to chemistry with all the new faces the Reds are bringing in.
Playoffs?……Playoffs?…….no one is talking Playoffs yet in Cincy !……..even Pete Rose is not betting on the Reds !
Nori Aoki 2.0
As long as he can play CF I’m fine with that Aoki was a solid OF for a number of years.
Akiyama probably projects for a little more pop, but I think the Reds would be happy with the contract if they get 3 years and 6.5 – 7 WAR like Aoki gave.
Akiyama should be better than Fowler for less than half the $$. I think Choo would be the hopeful comp.
checked the comments here to see if anyone was thinking that this may affect Lindor and Cleveland…. the reds seem to be eliminating at bats for Senzel
Updated 2020 NL Central Predictions…..
1 – Cubs
2 – Cardinals
3 – Reds
4 – Brewers
5 – Pirates
I think you better not go to Vegas, save your money for a new car
If I was a betting man which I’m not,
Reds, Milwaukee, Cards, Cubs, Pitts. Cubs have lost too much and now new Mgr. new coaches and their pitching will be their Achilles heel.
The Cubs would’ve been the favorites, but they’re sitting on their hands. They have no CFr, questions at 2B, a meh rotation, and a very thin bullpen.
Reds
Cardinals
Cubs
Brewers
Pirates
They have several players that can play CF, just not one that checks all the boxes. Happ is the best offensively who can put up 30 homers and solid OBP if he gets the chance. Almora had a terrible season in 2019, but at times was a good player. Also Heyward can play CF, just not as well as he does RF. If Kimbrel comes back strong, I would disagree and say their bullpen could be very strong. Wick, Wieck, Ryan, and Kimbrel are solid late inning options, while Chatwood and Alzolay are solid long relievers/spot starters. As far as 2B goes, I agree there are questions unless Hoerner proves that he really can play like he did at the end of last year. Their rotation is one of the weakest in the league though
Darvish & Hendricks will determine where this Cubs team goes in 2020..
No way, big bad Porto Johnny, reds should be in the thick baring any injuries!! Go Redlegs
even though the offseason is far from over
Cards (pitching!) next 3 interchangeable
Reds
Cubs
Brewers
Pirates
I do not see the Cubs winning the division. Their window is closing rapidly, and 2020 might slam it shut. Cardinals and Reds are now more complete and better teams imo. Cincinnati certainly has the pitching staff and now they’ve got a new center fielder.
1. Reds
2. Cardinals
3. Brewers
4. Cubs
5. Pirates
Senzel is staying in CF. The Reds made the “investment” in time this past season to convert him to being a CFr. He has well above average athleticism which will only improve his play in center. Senzel’s bat makes him a potential All Star in Center.
Winker will stay put in LF. His career numbers in his first 855 PAs are .285/..379/.466/.845. All he needs to do now is stay healthy in order to put up some real strong numbers. Ervin supplies a real strong platoon in left.
Shogo figures to platoon with Aquino in RF. Aquino needs to get the majority of the playing time until/unless he proves that he’s in over his head. When Shogo is not in RF, he can spell Senzel in Center.
Senzel is coming off September surgery for a torn labrum. He may start the season in the IL or in minors/rehab assignment.
Surgery and rehab reportedly have gone well. Senzel could very well be easily ready for Opening Day.
Shogo provides insurance if he’s not ready.
can’t imagine the reds gave someone 3 yrs and 20ish million to platoon
They’re not platooning Akiyama for that kinda dough
I want to believe the Reds will be good in 2020 but I think they under-performed last year, so I need to see it happen before I’ll believe it. Solid offseason though.
Reds have made progress……no doubt about it……not a playoff team yet….but doing too much could lead into problems with the chemistry……
Brewers……not having done much to improve their pitching……
Pirates…….come back in 2030……
Cardinals……always tough……never know but age is showing now…..
Cubs……..Mystery Team of the Central……..New Manager……Trades not made yet…..Bryant / Contreras. / Quintana / Schwarber all have Bus Tickets to leave town………..New Prospects will be arriving……on paper, this Roster is still the best in NL Central……
There could be three teams from the NL East that might be in the playoffs and no wild card team from the West or the Central !
HAHA…you’re hilarious…
Cubs are not a miracle team, Bryant is probably gone & they are down a starter
What leads you to believe that it’ll be three NL East teams in the playoffs? As a self professed DBacks diehard, I find it hard to see where the Phillies have the DBacks beat out on paper (defense is worse at every position sans C, and even that’s moderately close), they’re waiting on bounce-backs and break-throughs, plus don’t have a ton of upside in the rotation (and the bench is not strong to say the least). The Nats definitely have the better rotation, but the bullpen isn’t exactly bulletproof, and Turner, Soto, and Robles are great building blocks, I just don’t see much in the way of comparable everyday talent. DBacks have above-average to plus defensive players at C, 1B, SS, 3B, LF, and RF (the only reason it’s questionable at 2B and CF is that we don’t know where Marte will play for sure, but he’s at least above-average in both of those positions). Locastro is decent defensively and an elite baserunner (with some OBP skills to speak of) and Rojas was above-average outside of his natural defensive position with positive offensive peripherals (and has options for depth purposes). They have upside in the rotation and potential starters that miss out and have question still have to answer how they’d perform out of the bullpen. I definitely don’t see three East teams making it, but I’m not going to guarantee that the DBacks will either, just stating that they have a better chance than the Phillies.
Interesting you don’t describe DBacks’ offense.
Didn’t necessarily think that I needed to because offensive projections are much easier to look up than sifting through defensive metrics, but the current wRC+ projections have their lowest to highest 40 man players as Locastro (82), Ahmed (83), Leyba (84), Mathisen (86), Young (87), Vargas (88), Vogt (90), Kelly (96), Rojas (98), Escobar (98), Calhoun (99), Walker (99), Lamb (99), Cron (102), Peralta (109), and Marte (121); the only everyday regular that isn’t within spitting distance of league average is Ahmed, and I shouldn’t have to tell you why that’s still a playable projection for him. If Hazen doesn’t happen to grab a CF and they’re comfortable with Rojas out there, the projection for his bat stacks up favorable. And if they decide to leave Marte in CF, the projections look playable between Leyba, Young, Vargas, and Rojas at 2B. Error bar caveats apply, but that’s still a competitive offense.
Mystery team of the central and you pick the Cubs as the favorite to win the division? Give me any team but a mystery team. Haha. And they are still (allegedly) looking to cut payroll? I mean the Cubs are not at all scary to me. Granted their offense is legit as it stands now… but that’s now. Lose one or 2 of those guys and you have an average lineup with a below average pitching staff. Keep them all and I still think they have major issues. I wouldn’t bet a dime on Darvish or Kimbel being good or healthy. Lester has more miles on him than a 1990 Toyota. If you don’t believe another year of regression is coming I have news for you….
Just the fact that you think they would trade Schwarber at this point is enough validity to ignore all of your future posts.
I think this will lead to one of the young OFs (Senzel/Winker/Aquino) being dealt for a SS. Senzel obviously has the most value, Winker is a DH/1B playing LF and Aquino was a beast for a month. I wouldn’t give up Senzel for Correra (Injuries) or Story (Colorado outside of it he isn’t really special) Lindor will require more, though I don’t think as much as Cleveland fans want (it never is as much as a fan base hopes for) but I think that is the play if Cincinnati is playing to win the next two years.
DJ LeMahieu couldn’t hit outside of Coors either. How’s that working out for the Yankees? Good hitters are good hitters, Coors just magnifies things. Lindor and Story are twice the defender Correa is, so I’d rank him 3rd out of the 3, but all 3 would be unbelievable acquisitions if the return is reasonable.
And there have been plenty Coors hitters who haven’t done anything outside of Coors as well.
LeMahieu was a contact hitter who developed power, Story though doesn’t walk and his line craters when outside of Coors. I just don’t trust him enough to pay the premium to get him. Don’t trust Correra to stay on the field, rather have Senzel then both….though Senzel has that same stay on the field problem.
Reds can pick up 10 games in 2020……not enough to win the Division !
The Reds could pick up 10 games just by having a average bull pen. Between Hughes/Iglesias/Hernandez they had to blow around 20 games if not more.
Yes & how can one run games did they lose…too many
Look at the Reds starters……..none of them gives me that Stopper a playoff team needs…….No 1 – 2 punch…….more like 3 – 4 – 4 punches……..
it always come down to Pitching.
Sure the Cubs finished third in 2019……..the last month was horrible….No Baez…No Bryant….No Rizzo…….Quintana could not get anyone out…………2020 will be a New Season.
Yeah, I can see why you’re optimistic about 2020 …
No Hamels, no Castellanos, no Russell, no Zobrist, no Cishek, no Kintzler, no Strop, etc.
The Cubs are killing it this off season.
I’m not a cubs fan but, baez rizzo and bryant are better than anyone on the reds…. so there’s that
I’ll take Suarez over Bryant or Rizzo, and the Reds control him for the next SIX years. The Cubs control Bryant and Rizzo for two years.
The bats aren’t the problem for the Cubs. Their biggest problem is the pitching, which is average or worse.
HAHA!!
Castillo and Gray were outstanding last year. Just because they aren’t Strasburg and Cole doesn’t mean they aren’t front of rotation
You obviously haven’t been watching much Reds baseball. Castillo is an ace and Gray was excellent as a #2 last year. Bauer is very capable of a bounce back, but he’s certainly a very strong middle rotation pitcher. Disco is also very good in a mid rotation role. And they have two solid #5 guys.
The one thing the Reds don’t lack is pitching.
Are you saying Castillo & Gray are not a 1-2 punch? Maybe not compared to Yankees and Dodgers but I will take those two anytime.
Did you even look at their stats? Castillo and Gray were outstanding in 2019. Bauer has serious potential but fell into a rut after the trade. Miley was basically a #2 pitcher until September happened. DeSclafani is also talented in his own right. At this moment I’ll take that starting 5 over any other group in the Central.
In general I enjoy watching the players from Asia!
Good luck Shogo!
The only OF mix Schebler is a part of is Louisville’s
Only if he clears waivers. More likely he ends up claimed by a rebuilding team.
Next season’s bust of the year winner
12 home runs 40 rbi .260 ba
Nothing to see here folks.
Red’s definitely are the team to watch in the NL Central. I do believe that the Red’s move Senzel to Cleveland for Lindor. Cincy’s only massive contract is that of Votto’s. Red’s have longed for a SS with all the tools. Lindor is that SS.
Not sure how Akiyama’s skills in Japan will translate here. However, you have to admit the Reds are trying to compete.
Reds are doing good things, I still don’t see them finishing higher than third.
Probably come down to Reds& Cards, Cubs fans win one World Series & already think it’s a dynasty, Reds played fairly well against Cubs last year if I remember
Seeing Cub fans here I don’t really think they think that. Don’t sleep on the brewers though. I see Cards Brewers Reds Cubs and Pittsburgh way down there
Remember Milwaukee lost Grandal/ Moustakas & a lot of long balls and a pitching staff that has changed
He is not Chinese genius
If the Reds end I with Lindor, than they can be a true contender. The lineup still looks a little light without him. They will add a bull pen arm ( or two ). They will also have some payroll flexibility to add if needed. They certainly look very capable of being a similar team to the Brewers of the last couple of years and that team has done quite well without near the starting pitching that the Reds have..,
I don’t really care how the defense shakes out. They have enough versatility to work with. If we end up with Galvis at SS, so be it. The important news is that the Reds signed a true leadoff guy with a .370 obp. They added a big bat in Moustakas and their rotation is very good at the very least. I wouldn’t mind picking up a piece for the bullpen, but Garrett, BobSteve, Lorenzen, Reed, and Raisiel have plenty of potential among them.
Looks like the Reds are serious about winning. Not so sure a big trade for a superstar SS is necessary at this point. Hate to give up 5 years of Senzel for 2 years of anything. I trust the FO to make the right move, but I’m thinking hold for now. Pick up a rental at the deadline if it makes sense. I want to see a couple months of winning baseball before I’m ready to raid the farm (again?). The only guarantee a Lindor-type deal provides is a window that slams shut HARD in 2 years. A lot still has to go right to win it all, and I think I’d prefer a legitimate shot and sustained relevance instead.
Fun to see the Reds so active in the offseason, though. Hard not to be pretty darn excited and optimistic for the season to get going…
I wouldn’t disagree with seeing some winning baseball first and assessing things at the break, that point made your post, good call.
Yes they still need a few bench pieces, perhaps a tiny bit more pitching depth, it’s still 2019 and there could b more signings
As a Cardinals fan I am both impressed and jealous with the moves the Reds have made while the Cardinals ownership stays content since the 3,000,000 fans continue hitting the turnstiles.
Be happy Cincy fans. You’re going to have a fun year!!
Thank you, we look forward to battling the Cards and Brewers for the pennant! The other two teams are irrelivent…
I’d like to personally thank all of the Scrubs fans that have flooded GABP when the two teams have played over the past several years. Yes, our Reds have sucked for a good while now, but of course we’ve NEVER gone as long as you have between Championships. Thanks again though for contributing to our ability to spend your money on these free agents. Marty Brenneman was right, you’re the worst fans in baseball.
They should offer Scooter an invite to camp. Bullpen arm is next need. I liked how Bell used outfielders last yr. Winker vs RHP, day off each time LHP on mound. Ozuna still would be nice, but several guys would need moved now for that to happen. Not a fan of trading top talent for 2 yr rental SS.
Scooter could b a good bench asset, and still loved by Cincy fans
Remember that Suarez came up as a SS in the Tigers system. He could easily slide over to short and Senzel could man his natural position of 3rd base. I don’t believe that the Reds are done making moves yet. This team is all in. All in means you go get another bat. Is that Lindor? I don’t see the Red’s giving up Senzel, India, and either Lodolo or Green for 2 years of Lindor. If the Reds can sign Castellanos or Ozuna then you don’t need Lindor’s bat and you can keep the farm system in tact.. Senzel is going to be a pretty good ballplayer, and he is athletic enough to play the left side of the infield.
Very good post Thirsty…I’d like to see that, it would be smart…
Or he could move to 2B and move Moose back to 3B>
That makes no sense because you have a solid defender in Suarez who at this point in his career probably isnt suited at SS. I certainly hope you dont imply they should deal him off considering he’s one hell of a bargain with his production, especially that they’re at least on paper, a competitive that is not done making moves. I’m not really sold on Winker and dont see anything that stands out, he can still be a good player but I would package him off for another upgrade, at least one with more than just a year of control.
Bummed out initially by another competitive move here from Cincy but on second thought it’s good to see them making these moves as the underdog the last several seasons. If my Cubs end up losing the division I could certainly see myself pulling for this team all the way to the end.
I’m hearing Senzel for Baez.
So I guess Ozuna is out. If they were going to pay an outfielder 7-8 million a year why not Dickerson for two years. Proven MLB outfielder. Players from Japan and Korea are always a gamble. Could pay off but I’d rather have Dickerson myself
Michael Lorenzen is all parts relief pitcher, quality defensive CF, and absolute goon. Why not just give him 500 ABs?