6:51 pm: The Angels can be counted out on Kluber at this point, per Rosenthal (link).
6:31 pm: The Dodgers are still “more focused” on Lindor in talks with the Indians, per Heyman (link).
6:11 pm: Dallas Morning News writer Evan Grant cites sources in confirming that the Rangers are actively engaged on Kluber, noting the shift in direction a Kluber acquisition would represent after recent indications from GM Jon Daniels that the team would not consider one-year “rentals” (link).
5:48pm: Corey Kluber has made for one of the hardest-to-pin trade candidates of the offseason, with the 33-year-old Indians hurler coming off an injury-wrecked 2019 that saw him perform in just seven games, and poorly. However, it seems like a fair number of teams are confident in an immediate return to form, with baseball journalist Robert Murray relaying that the Kluber market is “heating up”. Murray names the Angels and Padres as two parties that have recently checked in. Jon Heyman of the MLB Network corroborates this report by saying that Kluber’s market is “very active” with multiple teams in play, including the Dodgers. Heyman characterizes Kluber as “much more likely” to get dealt than shortstop Francisco Lindor. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic notes that the Rangers are “in the mix“.
With free-agent pitching valuations rising like Silicon Valley IPOs, it’s easy to understand why more than one team might start looking to the trade front to find a frontline starter–even if that pitcher comes with some age or injury concerns. The Padres, for one, have been connected to virtually every top-flight starter made available in trades in recent years, from Marcus Stroman to Noah Syndergaard to David Price. GM AJ Preller and his group are yet to pull the trigger on anything substantive in the pitching department, and the signal has long been that the club would refrain from any major splash spending this offseason. It’s easy to see how Klubot might fit well atop their rotation. The pitcher’s return to his drafting organization would position him with Garrett Richards, Chris Paddack and Dinelson Lamet in a physically imposing top four.
For the Angels, a Kluber courtship may similarly be about their choice to allocate resources toward Anthony Rendon, rather than Stephen Strasburg or Gerrit Cole. We heard this week that the team was in active discussions on Kluber. Hard to see a fit here? Not exactly. The Angels have struggled mightily in the pitching department in recent years, with 2019 mid-priced free agent gambles like Matt Harvey and Trevor Cahill rolling snake eyes in the season’s early months. The passing of Tyler Skaggs, injuries to Shohei Ohtani, and a lack of impact talent at the top of the system has limited the effectiveness of the Anaheim staff in the last calendar year. Of course, Kluber himself couldn’t be positioned as a long-term answer: he’ll earn $17.5MM in 2020, after which he has an $18MM club option with a $1MM buyout for 2021. At the least, though, he would partner with Dylan Bundy in a pairing of perfectly reasonable 2020 pitching additions.
It’s also no secret that the Dodgers have courted pitching this offseason, as the last few months have seen them connected–substantively and otherwise–to Madison Bumgarner, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Rich Hill, Kwang-hyun Kim, Cole, and Strasburg. Their needs are less glaring, of course. The club already features Walker Buehler, Clayton Kershaw, Kenta Maeda, Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin, Julio Urias, and Ross Stripling. Add on one more top-flight arm? Sure, why not. It’s always been the m.o. of Andrew Friedman to stockpile as many effective arms as humanly possible, and a Kluber acquisition would give the club another frontline arm–even if he, like Kershaw, has been more good-than-great in his postseason career (career 3.97 postseason ERA in 45.1 innings).
That brings us to Texas. Their offer to Rendon was said to fall considerably short, with a reported 6-year, $192MM contract proposal sitting some $53MM shy of the Angels’ winning bid. Maybe the club wasn’t feeling as bullish as expected about the projected developmental windfalls expected to accompany their new ballpark (which was apparently set on actual fire on Saturday afternoon). Maybe the club simply has an organizational philosophy precluding it from entertaining $200M-plus deals–there would certainly be some merit to being wary of such a commitment. Either way, a Kluber addition would give GM Jon Daniels a wholeheartedly professional group of starting horses entering 2020. They’ve already added Kyle Gibson to a staff led by Lance Lynn and Mike Minor. Kluber’s addition would bring them to four veterans who, if not the youngest or the most alluring, would certainly make for perhaps the steadiest staff in the bigs.
bguzman49
Will be a good fit for the Angels but definitely need more.
StandUpGuy
Yeah. I could see the Angels going after someone like Kluber or Price and pretending that it is just as good as signing Cole or Strasburg just to trick their fans into thinking they actually tried to fix the massive problem they have in their starting rotation.
ayrbhoy
I’m sure that fan base is well aware that it will take more than a Cole or Strasburg to fix that rotation. They’ve had pitching setbacks/problems for years!
arc89
the Angels problem is they have only 1 prospect that has value to trade for Kluber. They would need to have Adell in the trade proposal. Angel fans need to be patient because the farm is still very lacking in prospects. Price is the more likely starter for them because the red sox want to dump his money.
Vin Scully
Adell alone is worth more than Kluber. Kluber isn’t worth a top prospect.
Begamin
Aaaaaand the Angels are outbid again. When will people realize that theyre perennial pretenders?
lowtalker1
Better fit for the team that drafted him
PinstripedPride
Unfortunately for them, they’re out now. I still say they’re going to sign Keuchel or Ryu
nowheretogobutup
Well now that Kluber is gone and at a fair price where do the Padres go now? They can’t seem to dump Myers I’d say pay 1/2 his salary and through in a 100 prospect and see if a team goes there.
Phiilies2020
The Angels really need to make this happen. I think the Padres are doomed regardless. Aside from the Rangers, I think SD fanbase has to be the most disappointed of their teams moves, or lack there of. They should have cashed in some of those prospects and did whatever it takes to move Myers. It’s still early but I feel like they let some opportunities pass them by.
friartim
Huh? Lack of moves?Pham, Davies, Grisham, Pomeranz, Cronenworth, and Profar.
Phiilies2020
I should have said “moves that made them better”. The lack of moves was mostly meant for Texas. I’m sorry to be critical of SD and my intention isn’t to offend any Padres fans but it’s hard not to look at the body of work from the front office over the past few years and not wonder what they were thinking, especially with the Hosmer contract. Cleveland does need an OF so if they can somehow convince the Indians to take Myers in a Kluber swap by attaching a second tier prospect and not kicking in any salary, I’d say that is a victory.
padreforlife
Indians aren’t taking Myers get real
99socalfrc
Sounds like no one is taking Myers period. That contract is so Rockstar. Hosmer’s is just as bad.
jimthegoat
Indians would have declined Kluber’s option before trading him for Myers.
PinstripedPride
Only way I can see someone getting Myers is if the Padres exchange him for Price somehow. Load of money for load of money that lowers Boston’s annual luxury tax
22Leo
Don’t worry about offending Padres fans. They are delusional.
friartim
I contend Pham is an upgrade over any outfielder they have had in years. I think Davies will be better than Lauer on the back end of the rotation. Pomoranz (especially if he pitches like he did in Milwaukee) is an upgrade. Admittedly, the Profar deal has me scratching my head and Grisham still needs to prove himself as a Major Leaguer. I would like to see Kluber, Ryu or Madbum at the top end of the rotation before I call this a successful offseason for my Pads.
nowheretogobutup
Bum and Kluber are gone leaving Ryu and the Doyers are hot on getting him to sign a three or four yr deal. Now what?
802Ghost
Hit the snooze button, those names are unexciting.
99socalfrc
Pham is the only name from your list that clearly improves the team. Yet the Padres have increased their payroll with every trade. They have all the assets needed to bring in a Merrifield, Marte or Contreras yet they choose to grab Jurickson Profar.
Preller isn’t getting any better at big league GM’ing. He is still an over his ski’s scout.
Phiilies2020
That’s what I’m saying. The trades didnt make a whole lot sense and I think everyone was shocked that Pomeranz got a four year deal based off a two or three month stretch of success as a reliever.
VegasSDfan
Preller is a scout acting as a GM
larry48
Padres improve zero, lateral moves no upgrades won’t play 500 in 2020. Padres will suck
Magnum
Remember those words. They won’t win the division, yet, but definitely not going to suck.
22Leo
That is what Padres fans said last year.
VegasSDfan
We say the same thing every year. I agree with the lateral moves remark. Downgrade trades. Pham is a plus, Pomeranz we will see.
Other than that terribly pointless moves were made. I expect just under .500, and Preller will be fired.
iml12
Myers contract is almost as bad as Chris Davis. I don’t think anyone is eating that for a fringe prospect
fighting69th
What would this trade take for the Angels? I see Fletcher in the mix. Hopefully not Thaiss.
5toolMVP
I’d rather they keep Fletcher at 2B.
Vandals Took The Handles
@5toolMVP;
You’re not getting a 2 time Cy Young award winner making 25% less then Zack Wheeler and still only 33 years old, for nothing decent.
The problem I see is that while the Angels have two 2B/3B players and now Rendon taking over 3B, other then Adell or Fletcher, or Canning, who do the Angels have that can be a centerpiece of the trade that the Indians can play in 2020?
5toolMVP
I’ll let the Indians and Eppler figure that out. Maybe they’d like Marsh/Suarez, Marsh/Rengeifo/Thaiss?
As I said I’d prefer the Angels keep Fletch vs Thaiss.
5toolMVP
Also Fletcher was only a 3B out of necessity – and did quite well in the field, but he was primarily at 2B/MI in the minors.
Vin Scully
Kluber is no longer a top pitcher. He is a 3 or 4 on a good team. The Angels would be smarter to spend money on Ryu or Madbum.
fighting69th
If LaStella comes back healthy I would think Fletch is expendable..
5toolMVP
Uhh LaStella is a 30yr old utility guy that had an exciting first half 2019 with a live baseball, Fletcher is a 25yr old 3-4WAR 2B.
halo6219
LaStella’s performance(before his injury) was nice but so far above his norm that you can’t count on him to repeat it…which doesn’t make Fletch expendable…he can split time w/ Rengifro at 2b and spell Simmons and Rendon on days off…
Vandals Took The Handles
That’s the question……
I’m not so sure about the Indians and Fletcher. It’s multiple young prospects just approaching MLB that they can work with that they’ll go after. If they do take on Fletcher, they’ll probably want a few decent minor league pitching prospects to go along with him.
Callahan had him in Cleveland, and they got along famously. But you’ll need to either develop one of those 2 Catchers, else get one from somewhere. No matter how good the staff, a Catcher has to work them.
JohhnyBets67
Must not be familiar with the way the Indians roll. 5 years of control for a currently pre-arb player is right up their alley. The Indians are over saturated with starting pitchers as it is. They’re better off grabbing one of the high upside Bahamians in the Angels system along with Fletcher.
Vandals Took The Handles
Can never have enough pitching.
Indians – along with the Rays and Astros – are best at developing it.
They always trade a quality young pitcher for a quality young position players. In this environment, pitchers are worth more.
bbatardo
Getting Kluber is a risky proposition. He wasn’t pitching well before he got hurt last year.
Tribe82
It’s almost like he was pitching with an injury or something.
TwinsHomer
Lmao. Look at his numbers too. Unluckiest ERA ever.
mathblaster
He always starts slow in the cold weather and hits his stride after a month or two. Didn’t get that chance last year due to fluke injury
nymetsking
Doesn’t he always start slow?
99socalfrc
Yes, guys with lifetime ERAs of 3.16 are always a risk.
Even worse if they post back to back seasons of 2.25 and 2.89 ERA. That’s always a good sign you should pass on acquiring them.
bbatardo
He is a risky proposition because teams care about future production and not what he’s done. I’m not saying he’s bad, but it’s risky not knowing what level he will pitch at next year.
99socalfrc
It’s not nearly as risky as some of these contracts teams have given out this year. If he sucks after this year you can him. Same for next year. Maximum he would cost is $34m over 2 years. That’s the same as the Padres gave Drew freaking Pomeranz.
Yes your giving up prospects, but it will cost less now than it will at July 31 if he pitches well.
nowheretogobutup
Padres agreed to a contract with Pom at $8M a year what are you talking about
phillies012tg
What about St.Louis ?
osfandan
Kluber fell off the 2nd half of 2018, even. Not a little bit either. Personally I think his days as an Ace are over. More like a 3/4 on a WS team.
5toolMVP
No he didn’t lol. Check his 2018 game log. July-Sept was solid.
Omarj
I’d be careful on what to give for Kluber based on his recent injuries and performance. He’s a #3 right now maybe #2 if he improves.
baseball365
Dollar for dollar, Happ is a better bet considering they are owed the same next year and Happ should give 150 pretty solid innings. Kluber comes with higher risk and I just don’t know if I would want to trade too much value to acquire him. And for the Indians, it’s not like they need to do a straight salary dump and they still need someone to hold a spot down.
throwinched10
The Indians have enough depth that they should be fine.
Bieber, Clevinger, Plesac, Carrasco, Civale, Allen, Plutko. McKenzie might be up soon as well. They have a bigger need in the OF and if they can solve that with a Kluber deal that might be the better bet.
larry48
Happ was not good in 2019, Yankees don’t want him anymore ERA 4.91 WHIP 1.31
Randia
happ was fine he still won more games than Kluber has over the last 4 years and he’s healthier.
if im Billy eppler i dont touch Kluber
Eatdust666
He was 12-8 despite the 4.91 ERA and 1.31 WHIP because the Yankees scored a lot of runs for him.
debubba
Yes, wins are the stat you want to use when comparing two pitchers.
baseball365
He had trouble locating pitches, that is all. About as best case scenario you can have when buying in on a player while their value is down. The Yankees it’s simple – just delete the salary – they don’t need much in return. Happ has been one of the most healthy and consistent pitchers in recent years and 29 other teams can always use a guy like him slotted 4 or 5 and if he gets going, he’s still totally a mid rotation possibility.
I personally think Happ is one of the unspoken gems this offseason that someone will be glad when they acquire him. Forget the 2019 ERA and look at the total body of work.
rocky7
The issue with Happ was not locating his pitches….it was that he is and will always be a fastball first pitcher and it just happens that he challenges each and every batter and sometimes they win. His location was fine, just that he doesn’t fool around trying to throw his 3rd and 4th best pitches….he believes in his fastball and challenges you to hit it. In Yankee stadium, it the balls hit well to right, right center, or dead left field, its gonna probably hurt!
Randia
agreed all in all I think eppler knows he can get happ from cashman it just depend on how cheaply he can convince his friend cashman to help him out,DO NOT WANT KLUBER. personally i think hes finished
throwinched10
He would reunite with Callaway on the Angels but an NL team would be more ideal. Especially and NL team in a pitcher’s park. He doesn’t have the velocity to miss location anymore so facing the pitcher instead of a hitter would probably yield better numbers.
Rangers29
Whoa the rangers are in the mix for Kluber? They should be able to buy low on him, because of his injuries, but if the market for him drives his price up, i’d pull out.
FishyHalo
DONT TRADE THW FARM FOR A GUY WHO HAD ARM SURGEY.
EPPLER. PLEASE READ. WE ARENT THAT DESPERATE.
I love what Billy done, building up the farm system to compete. Please don’t destroy all that hard work on a guy who has KNOWN arm problems.
Kluber a fat no. Using those prospects for a Wilson Contreas make more sense than dumping them on a maybe pitcher.
KLuber alone. Should be a fatttttt NOOOO GO NO PLEASE GOD NO. PLEASE GOD DONT DRAIN OUR FARM SYSTEM ON A GUY RECOVERING FROM A FOREARM ON HIS THROWING ARM.
IM hoping they’re smart enough.
nymetsking
Get this man some Valium, stat!
99socalfrc
You’ve got the best player in the universe in his prime on a $400m deal, and now an elite 3B to pair him with.
You ARE that desperate. You can’t watch those guys age 162 games at a time while you wait for slapdick prospects to save the day.
Old User Name
I get what you’re saying about Kluber but there’s no need to get a great catcher if they don’t have a pitcher that can get the ball to him.
FishyHalo
I agree!!
I’m just saying, if I understand what the Indians are asking for Kluber. It just makes more sense, if you’ve been saving those prospects up, to spend them on a catcher rather than a pitcher with arm problems.
Now if those same prospects are used to get Boyd than I’m thrilled. I’m just saying dont waste those prospects on a kluber burn them if you must on a proven Cather.
More bank for your buck.
Avory
What is wrong with everyone on here? Who said Kluber has arm problems? His arm was BROKEN ON A BATTED BALL! If anything, the year off was a positive, a blessing! After multiple years of being the horse, then pitching in postseasons three years in a row, a year off will likely having him being more like his natural self.
Listen, Tribe isn’t taking cents on the dollar. Stop trying to nickel and dime Cleveland because you think Kluber is hurt and the Tribe is desperately trying to pinch pennies.. They’re NOT. Cleveland is the favorite in the AL Central (in case you haven’t seen the Vegas odds lately) and has no urgent need to trade Kluber, or Lindor or Clevinger or anyone else. But they WILL listen, because they should always do due diligence. Someone antes up with the proper package that keeps Cleveland a contender now and allows them to stay a contender in the future, of course they will consider it. But they’ll hang up in a heartbeat if you make a lame offer.
Cleveland is dealing from strength not weakness and most don’t get that.
debubba
He broke his forearm. It’s not like he had Tommy John.
hiflew
Maybe the Padres could get him for Ryan Ludwick. But I doubt the Indians are that dumb.
Wolverines2
Yeah, Kluber was totally looking like a Cy Young candidate when SD traded him…Cleveland didn’t get lucky there at all…whatever bro.
Henry Silvestre
st. louis was notvsmart on that one.. should have kept Kubler for themselves .. kind of like Rays and Trea Turner ..there was no need to go get Souza Jr after acquiring Turner..
jimthegoat
@Henry Silverstre only one of the two was a premium prospect when he was traded
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
The Indians live in Ohio—they are that dumb.
VegasSDfan
Kluber should be a salary dump for a dump like Myers.
Vandals Took The Handles
Sometimes I wonder who understands less about the realities of MLB – AJ Preller or Padres fans.
99socalfrc
It’s hard to say. Rumor was a few days ago Preller wanted to include Myers in a Whit Merrifield trade.
terry g
A few Padres fans live in a dream world. Some are really good knowledgeable fans. The goods ones don’t comment very often.
sufferforsnakes
That’s probably because they’re laughing their butts off at the bad ones.
needinganonopads
That’s exactly what we’re doing. Here absurd trade proposals regarding Myers are a joke to us true blue fans. Would we love to get rid of Myers? Absolutely, however, personally I think our best bet is to keep him for one more year, pray he figures it out and becomes decent, the. Trading him with two years at about 34 million wouldn’t be quite as difficult as three years 60 million.
larry48
LOL
bobtillman
I have it on the BEST authority (a Padre fan) the Pads turned down a Myers for Mookie swap……
Halohonk007
I don’t see the angels trading Fletcher in the mix for Kluber. Madilyn is totally intrigued with Fletcher. I do seeThiass in the mix for a trade pass before Kluber or Price.
Halohonk007
Sorry AutoCorrect. I meant Madden
mike127
Dang autocorrect….you didn’t mean Madden either…guessing you meant Maddon.
Baseball 1600
Padres aren’t a Kluber away from contending. Angels are. Simply put, the Angels should be coming up with the better offer here, unless AJ Preller continues to be dumb.
larry48
You can count on Preller doing another dumb trade.
Eatdust666
Just like Jerry Dipoto.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
No one is buying that. The Angels are not. Granted it’s early in the offseason, and things can change through free agency, but the Padres are so far and ahead of the angels in the P category whether it’s RPs or SPs. Whether ceiling, reliability, depth, and just flat out guys coming up it’s not even funny. The Padres right now are probably the better team in more of a position to add Kluber to solidify their rotation, but they probably both need more than 1.
Mystery Team
Hard pass on Kluber, sorry but too many question marks to give up top prospects for him. I’d wait until the deadline to move on him.
jbigz12
Looks like Evan Grant doesn’t know that Kluber isn’t a rental unless you decline his option……
slider32
Although Kluber might not be an ace anymore, he is a short term commitment with major upside if healthy. He won’t cost as much as the top pitchers left.
mcdusty49
Dodgers make a splash and clean out the farm for Lindor, Kluber and Hand
stan lee the manly
That’s never going to happen. They would purposely be tanking for 5+ years. High revenue clubs don’t do that. Unless you’re the Mets.
terry g
The Mets are the poor sad relations living in a penthouse apartment pretending to be rich and famous.
easymoney
yeah right maybe in fantasy baseball.
believeland
That would cost the farm and all of the cheap MLB talent.
More simply put: lol.
johndietz
I’m glad the Angels are out. We don’t need to roll the dice with an injured pitcher.
halo6219
This post should be on the Price page more then Kluber…Kluber has a better chance of rebounding from his broken arm then Price from his cyst removal on his wrist…
paindonthurt
I feel like they are going to ask way too much for Kluber. I don’t see anyone biting.
Old User Name
That de-escalated in a hurry.
johndietz
Angels should focus on MadBum, Boyd and Ray
FishyHalo
Boyd has to b priority number 1.
What could Madbum teach Ohtani, heaney and Canning?
That agreesive mentality he has. I think adding Bum makes all our other pitchers better. The guys a bulldog and has a mentality all the other pitchers on the staff can grow from.
FishyHalo
IM THRILLED. My Halos aren’t willing to make a mistake to get him. Has to be better fish in the sea.
towinagain
Maybe Im the one Padres fan who says no to Kluber. If he’s the only one the Padres acquire theyd be wasting valuable prospects on him. He’s way too much of a question mark and the Pads would be on the wrong end of a very bad deal. Pass unless hes part of a package.
angt222
Technically, Kluber does have a club option for 2021 with a buyout of $1M.. That being said, is CLE actively trying to move Kluber or are they just shopping him to see what they can get back?
Vizionaire
it seems like they are trying to commit highway robbery.
indiansfan44
I think the plan since day one was to pick up the option and try to trade him. The Indians front office probably figured if they were willing to commit the 17.5 million to him this year when they are historically a low budget and careful team other teams would be less scared to trade for him. If no one bites they either have a bounce back season and he is traded at the deadline or helps them on a playoff run. If he doesn’t become the old Kluber you decline his option after the year.
They are saying the Angels are out right now but I don’t think a trade is getting done at all until Ryu and Madbam are off the market. Same goes for Price and Happ. They are more like plan D for teams that miss out on the 1st and 2nd tier of free agent pitchers and still want to add without giving up the top prospects it would take to get a younger option.
Vizionaire
eppler, walk away from trades and just sign ryu or bum and sign one of japanese or korean pitcher.
DockEllisDee
one of bill equals four of coin
3Men&ABibee
Funny people on here. Not sure what is more funny? 1. the Padre fans who think anyone wants Myers who is a heap scrap throw in any trade. 2. The crackhead who wrote in all caps. 3. The angels fans who think they are a kluber away from being really good. 4. The people trying to drive a narrative of Kluber having arm injury history (to drive down price) All of which are not true. Kluber is a risk like every other pitcher but he is a 2 time cy young winner. When hurt, still better than anything the angels got on that mound. They also don’t match up well. Their farm system is not good, so why trade any talent from it when you don’t have alot in it. Even Joe Adelle is far from a sure thing. Dodgers are a much better matchup as they got impact prospects in they’re system.
towinagain
Drive the price down? No. Hi arm is injury is a huge concern and his velocity dropped substantially before the injury. The Padres are wasting prospects in a trade for Kluber plus adding salary. Id rather sign Mad bum or Keuchel. Hey, Im a Kluber fan. I wish the best for him but not worth the risk.
sufferforsnakes
Lies! Lies! Lies, I tell ya! Lies!
3Men&ABibee
Concern? It was a freak accident. He has had one hard year (last year and 2012). He has never depended on velocity. He is a pitcher. (Hence two Cy Youngs) that uses his great movement spin and it was still really good. Yes. The extra velocity helps but he never was a really hard thrower and has a smooth motion and little wear on arm during pitches. Madbum and kuechel may be a all Padres can get but neither one is kluber. Padres may need both to have a chance and both to have career years. They are behind the dodgers in their is a big gap right now
3Men&ABibee
Mobile double post. Hmm
angt222
SD should trade for Kluber and sign Keuchel.
TheLawAbides
I wonder after taxes how close the angels deal is to that of the rangers? I’m sure the angels is still more but just wonder how competitive the rangers offer is with over half the games in Texas (home games + Houston).
CursedRangers
California’s top income tax is 12.3%, compared to Texas not having an income tax.
Since players are taxed based off of where they play games, Rendon’s home games being in CA vs TX will cost him 6.15% of earning versus if he would have signed for a Texas team.
So he still came out way ahead, financially, by accepting the Angels offer over what the Rangers offered.
halo6219
Kluber has 2yrs $35m owed…coming back from broken pitching arm and also had some pitching issues at the start of the season that I haven’t heard of an explainantion… Angles will not be back in if they keep asking for Adell…
believeland
He’s got 1 year at 17.5 million and an option for a second year.
As an Indians fan, I’d love to get Adell. But Kluber doesn’t have that much value, and I don’t see anyone else the angels have that would help us without taking away too integral of a piece. I just can’t see them matching up well, unfortunately.
MrAngelFan
There is no chance the Angels give up Adell for anyone, then alone for a 33 year old, 2-3 guy with a 5.80ERA that was injured last year. Believe me, the Angels have enough of those 5 plus ERA guys already and do not need another one.. Kluber is intriguing, but I think a lot of people will be skeptical about him returning to Cy Young form considering his age, injury and last years performance. I am actually surprised the Angels offered Rengifo and a couple of others for him.. The way the ball comes off his bat indicates he is better than his stats. If last year never happened, obviously the Indians could command way more for Kluber, but unfortunately for them last year did happen. I don’t see the Angels offering much more than they have already, but some other team that may be more willing to roll the dice on Kluber. The Angels need more of a sure thing that they can count on to be a top of the rotation, not a possible top of the rotation guy that is actually crappy. As I mentioned, we have plenty of crappy pitchers. Only Ohtani has potential and he only played a handful of games until he was injured, so even he is not a sure thing.
believeland
Did you read what I actually posted?
Adell is obviously more valuable right now, so he’s off the table. With him off the table, there is literally nothing the Angels have that is of use to Cleveland. So there won’t be a trade with Cleveland because of that. For anyone.
themaven
If Kluber gets traded his last option year automatically vests ,so he’s on a 2 year 35 million dollar deal.
believeland
Says where? Every source I’ve seen has specifically mentioned it being one year with a second year club option.
phillyballers
Taking Kluber is like collateral damage. Lux and Gonsolin start the convo.
jbigz12
Go to sleep
themaven
Only trade I can see the Tribe making with the Angels is if they trade Lindor to the Dodgers.
Then they could deal Kluber for Simmons and Marsh.
Slim chance of that happening either way,really.
believeland
Not enough coming back to Cleveland.
Any trade with the Angels would have to start with Adell or Ohtani. Plus at least 2 more prospects with FV of 50-55.
nowheretogobutup
I don’t feel the Tribe got much for Kluber, I feel the Padres would have offered more, but I guess AJ was sleeping.
reverberate
Forgetaboutit! The Tribe ain’t trading till deadline.