The White Sox announced that they’ve signed free-agent catcher Yasmani Grandal to a four-year contract. He’ll be guaranteed a hefty $73MM, the team announced, which will be paid out evenly at $18.25MM per year. As per The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal (Twitter link), Grandal’s deal includes a full no-trade clause in 2020 and partial no-trade protection for the remaining three seasons. To make room on the 40-man roster, the White Sox designated outfielder Daniel Palka for assignment.
Readers will recall that the 2018-2019 offseason marked a much more frustrating pass through the free agency turnstiles for the now-31-year-old Grandal. After spurning a reported four-year, $60MM offer from the Mets last winter, the former Hurricane bet on himself by agreeing to a one-year, $18.25MM deal with the Brewers.
That gambit appears to have paid off handsomely, with Grandal parlaying his fantastic 2019 into a larger long-term guarantee from Chicago. At $73MM, this contract represents the largest guarantee in White Sox history, surpassing the six-year, $68MM outlay secured by Jose Abreu in advance of the 2014 season.
From any vantage, that guarantee should provide the club with one of the very best catchers in the game. Since entering the majors with San Diego in 2012, Grandal has posted a cumulative 118 wRC+ figure, second only to Buster Posey among all catchers with more than 3000 plate appearances in that time frame. Similarly, his .348 OBP is tops among catchers since 2012, while his 141 homers since ’12 rank second only to Brian McCann’s 145. Grandal’s never been a world-beater in the batting average department, but he’s been a consistent source of power and on-base ability for the bulk of his career.
Though his offensive prowess is evident from even a cursory glance at his career numbers, any Grandal evaluation would be remiss to exclude his sterling defensive reputation. Grandal recorded a 20.1 figure in Baseball Prospectus’ Fielding Runs Above Average metric during the 2019 campaign, good for third among catchers in the bigs behind Austin Hedges and Roberto Perez; that the White Sox press release regarding Grandal’s signing made mention of his pitch framing abilities should come as no surprise.
For the Pale Hose, the signing of such a multi-dimensional, high-profile player makes it abundantly clear that their long-running rebuild has come to an end. Last offseason saw the club make a run at third baseman Manny Machado, in a bid that was likely intended to symbolize a similar rallying cry of competitiveness. Though this past season ended up marking their seventh consecutive losing campaign, Grandal’s addition should go a long way toward supplementing a core that showed real promise in 2019.
Though it was White Sox pitchers like Carlos Rodon, Lucas Giolito, and Michael Kopech who were previously thought to be the club’s primary strength, 2019 yielded encouraging breakouts from a handful of South Side swingers. Shortstop Tim Anderson, for one, exploded en route to the 2019 batting title, logging a .335/.357/.508 slash and 3.5 fWAR across 518 plate appearances; 24-year-old infielder Yoan Moncada announced his presence with a .315/.367/.548 line with 25 home runs, ultimately garnering a down-ballot MVP vote in his second campaign of extended MLB action; rookie outfielder Eloy Jimenez was pretty decent, too–all he did was hit 31 home runs in his first 122 games at the sport’s highest level. And this is all before accounting for the impending arrival of uber-prospect outfielder Luis Robert.
All of that said, catcher didn’t, at first glance, appear to be the team’s most glaring need going into this offseason. Incumbent starter James McCann’s 109 wRC+ and .273/.328/.460 slash in 2019 did indeed compare favorably to other catchers around the league, but a deeper look shows why executive VP Kenny Williams and GM Rick Hahn may have been unable to resist Grandal’s well-rounded allure. Firstly, McCann’s numbers were largely the result of a scintillating first half, as his .226/.281/.413 line after the break would demonstrate; add in McCann’s .359 BABIP on the year, while providing for the defensive upgrade Grandal represents, and it’s easy to see how club leadership saw today’s signing as a necessary investment.
The White Sox fielded an Opening Day payroll of $88.92MM in 2019; the club’s ten-year highwater mark for payroll came back in 2011 when owner Jerry Reinsdorf green-lit a $127.78MM outlay. In addition to Grandal, the Sox will have Abreu ($17.8MM), Kelvin Herrera ($8.5MM), and Anderson ($4MM) under contract with significant guarantees next season, while a considerable number of players will either draw raises in arbitration or find themselves non-tendered. Impact contributors like Giolito remain under affordable club control, so there may yet be some wiggle room to make other improvements around the roster.
Regardless of their moves from here forward, the decision by White Sox brass to bring in Grandal may come at an opportune time. The Twins, despite having retained starter Jake Odorizzi, face uncertainty in their rotation, while the rival Indians continue to endure trade speculation surrounding star shortstop Francisco Lindor and lingering questions about the health of several pitchers, including Corey Kluber. Grandal’s addition to Chicago’s blistering young core should make those teams slightly more uncomfortable with regard to their standing in the AL Central.
With Grandal off the board, the free agent catching market is now likely headlined by Travis d’Arnaud, with Robinson Chirinos and Jason Castro representing something of a third tier. While those players offer varying combinations of offensive and defensive ability to interested teams, there’s little doubt that Chicago acted decisively today in securing itself the most complete backstop on the market.
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Good for him after betting on himself!
I would expect he DHs quote a bit with McCann sharing the catching duties. This is kind of like the Cubs acquiring Montero at the start of their run. Good framer. Better bat. Watch out though in 2022-23. It could turn ugly.
Thanks for the input!
So much for all the fake ‘hype’ of the future greatness of Zack Collins.
Also this would seem to eliminate any other additional, significant FA signing. Reinsdorf probably has to be in shock – spending this much dough.
hahahahaha! Wrong!
If Collins showed any upside, spending this much on Grandal wouldn’t be necessary.
He probably had a grabber when he heard
Exactly. Collins becomes AAA depth or a trade candidate to a team wanting a young, cheap and controllable Catcher.
How pissed are you right now? Your posts tell me you’re UBER pissed but I’d like to hear it from the horse’s mouth directly. Man, Cubs fans are going to be PISSED this off season! GO WHITE SOX!
Collins now has 2 premier mentors. He’ll be around for a spell….
$18m a year is a 2.5 WAR season (meaning 10 WAR over the 4 year deal). Seeing as Grandal has put up 9.9 WAR in just the last 2 years combined, this contract will likely have paid for itself by the end of 2021 anyways.
In that sense, nothing is “ugly” about 2022-23.
Where do people come up with the math for WAR? Approx $8M per WAR, that sounds like a madeup figure
I agree because WAR doesn’t tell the whole story. White Sox are trying to up their overall obp this year. Grandal will help everybody in that lineup just by watching him play.
Not if they win before then. In that event it won’t matter, at all.
This is about how weak the central will be for the next three years. KC and Detroit have the bleakest outlooks in the MLB. Cleveland can’t hit and Minnesota can’t pitch.
I hope they add MadBum next to solidify their rotation with a veteran winner then id feel comfortable predicting at least a WC birth for the Sox.
I wouldn’t put Royals in the same class as Det. KC at least fields a semblance of a MLB team with some excellent young players., but Tigers are basically AAA. As of now, Twins, Royals AND Sox “can’t pitch” , but that’s a moot point in November.
I wouldn’t ‘pity-pee’ on “MadBum” if he was on fire. Cole, Strasburg or Kuechel are there for a price the Sox could easily weather. Could probably even afford two of those three.
The Sox could differentiate by adding pitching, while the Twins and KC are pretty much standing pat.
However, with a window opening, they have to make a couple great moves to make sure it’s not wasted.
The Cubs could’ve had multiple titles with their core but it looks like the Heyward, Darvish, Kimbrel, etc moves crashed them into an iceberg rather than steer them to dynasty land. The Sox could avoid that trap with either MadBum, Kuechel, or Porcello, whoever comes on shorter years.
Good for Grandal but Horrible news for Zack Collins. Only shot he has now at the majors is if he’s traded.
McCann is only controlled for 1 more year, and the AL has a DH.
Collins for Starling Marte. Go get em Cherrington!
What about Roberts?
play one of them in RF. they have a need there
there’s also a 26 man roster this year. 3 catchers will be good for everyone’s knees (even if zack collins is barely a catcher)
26 man roster? I didn’t know. More changes, longer games. There are pluses and minuses to this.
Damn I was really hoping he’d be back in Milwaukee.
never realistic for Milwaukee. but soon Ryan Braun is off the books. Just 1 more year and $21M left to spend on that bad contract.
There wasn’t a chance of that happening.
I’m starting to do bad on free agent picks lol
Nobody cares.
Alfred- lots of people are interested in the free agent prediction contest, actually.
Have the contest predictions been posted anywhere?
that made me snort
Alfred there is a troll who will probably never even come back to this post but man is he wrong. Ten different people responded about predictions between now and the time he made that idiotic statement.
Me too. You are not alone I am 1-4 in the contest. Well, I think the WhiteSox overpay for Grandal I would had offer him 14-15 million per year. But it is their money.
I think par is 3 right now (Waino, Odo, Abreu).
Nobody’s signing Grandal for $14M or $15M annually after the last few seasons he had, be realistic.
I had Yasmani Grandal going to the White Sox. Batting .800 thus far with 4 FA hits in 5 AB’s. Missed out on Will Smith.
That’s pretty good. How about Chris Martin?
I had Chris Martin remaining with Coldplay. Did he divorce his mates like he did with his beautiful actress wife Gwyneth Paltrow?
I forgot about the Braves setup man re-signing with them the other day. I had the less famous Chris Martin going to the Rangers. My BAD along with my BA just dropped 133 points. Ouch!
Ditto. Tied you w/4 correct. Missed Smith and Martin. Unlike your earlier post strategy, didn’t hedge bets predicting WSox to sign bunch of guys from the 50 FA list……..just Abreu/Grandal/Keuchel. Hope I’m wrong and they get MadBum!!
Wheeler or bust.
Today makes Wheeler “bust.”
SUUUWEEET
Hopefully the first signing of a few for the Sox. They need to target a #1 starter. Cole doesn’t have the injury concerns and is clearly the best available option. Sox have 4 years until Moncada and Giolito can hit free agency, make the most of it! Cole will go where the money is….bottom line.
The Sox won’t pay what Cole wants.
Now get me a Castellenos, a MadBum or Strasburg & a couple bullpen arms and hold on to jocksstraps. Lets go ChiSox
Well, at least you have half the formula of “good pitching and defense”.
I guess we will find out will Cole go somewhere he can wing a ring or go somewhere he will just get paid like Manny Machado.
Trust me, the Sox can “wing a ring.” lol Nobody thought the Stros could “wing a ring” six years ago. Look at’em now (stealing signs and wing’in rings).
The White Sox will be spreading their dollars around this offseason and not focusing on one elite player like they did last winter. Re-signing Jose Abreu and inking Yasmani Grandal is just the start.
The front office will prioritize two veterans for their rotation this offseason, a TOR on a multi-year deal along with a shorter term option for the backend. Zack Wheeler will be their #1 target as the TOR with Dallas Keuchel the fallback. The signing of Grandal just made the White Sox job of ‘pitching’ these guys a whole lot easier.
I also expect the White Sox to add an arm to the back of their bullpen along with finding a RF to solve that black-hole from 2019. They may also pursue a DH as well with a solid lefty bat preferred for one of those two spots to help balance out a lineup that still leans heavily right-handed despite the addition of their new switch-hitting catcher.
Free agency is not the only way to satisfy these needs. I do expect the White Sox to continue with the FA signings but I also anticipate a blockbuster trade from Rick Hahn this offseason, perhaps to find their core lefty hitting RF. This year’s FA class is lacking in that area so a trade with a team who has a surplus makes sense including the Dodgers, Mets or Cubs.
Who do you think the Sox would target on the Dodgers, Mets or Cubs and what might it cost them in return? Just curious. I agree with what you said above about spreading the money around and I definitely hope they target Wheeler as well.
I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing Castellanos sign with the Sox, though I know he’s another righty.
They targeted Joc last year, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see those rumors again.
Ever hear of James McCann. Already on the roster. Can split both at C and DH.
I believe there are three targets for the White Sox right fielder..
Brandon Nimmo
Nomar Mazara
Joc Pederson
If they don’t trade for any of the above I can see them signing Kole Calhoun.
Just my perspective from what I have read or heard on podcasts.
IF, he can raise his BA. We still need a dedicated DH to round out the team.
I’m okay with Joc but he’s only under control for 1 year. If they think that Steele Walker will be ready by 2021 then I’m okay with it.
No to Mazara though. He sucks.
We don’t need a dedicated DH. We need to keep adding better players and rotate the DH position to give guys a break. Dedicated DH is only a plus if you have someone like Big Papi or JD Martinez.
Verdugo could be a target. Obviously for a much higher price than one year of Joc.
I’ll take Mazara as a cheap change of scenery guy if the options are him or what we have now… He has talent (which is more than I can say for any RF on the Sox roster), he just hasn’t put it together yet.
That being said, he wouldn’t be my first choice.
The cubs don’t have any RFs worth trading for. Not sure why you’d want the Sox to give away most of their prospects for any RF worthwhile in a trade. They need to continue developing their farm system for depth and trade capital later on. Lastly, the Sox don’t need really need a DH with Grandal, Collins and McCann on the club. Spending big money on a DH clogs up the lineup at this point.
Could Charlie Blackmon help the Sox? He is a lefty hitter with pop who plays a decent RF. The Rockies need help at pitcher and catcher. So Zach Collins, K. Herrera and a prospect like Dunning could be moved for Charlie. I think Charlie knows the game and may have 2 good years left.
Blackmon turns 34, never really hit outside Colorado, makes a lot of money. Hard pass if you are any team not named Colorado.
I reported this before trade rumors on last post
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Your comment on that post was 2 minutes ago and took no extra analysis, their post was 3 minutes ago and they had to write a paragraph
Well seeing as y’all both wrote it 22 min ago but instead of a one sentence comment Steve actually wrote an article I’m gonna call u the loser
What a waste of good catcher to the white Sox
Do you mean kinda like Trout’s career has been wasted?
You just wish your team had him lol if anything it would be a waste of time in your team too cause im pretty sure your team hasn’t done anything either keep hating while the man keeps winning them MVP awards
My team’s the red sox. Makes 4 world series titles in 15 years, so, yeah, I’m pretty happy
And they couldn’t have done it without you! Where were you last season? Get them another ring me boy
But you know when you gonna have a player like trout? NEVER so keep hating and admire what the face of baseball keeps doing settle down with JD martinez lol lol lol
imagine being an angles fan and bragging about how you have had the best player of all time for the last 8 seasons and have nothing to show for it. its embarrassing how you guys have Trout and routinely miss the playoffs, all with a stretched out budget too.
We’ll see next season but i can always represent my team with a lot of pride through thick and thin & you whats your team? At the end of the day we have the face of baseball in our team stay hating on it
nobody made him sign that extention.
Not nearly as big a waste as Trout is on the Angels.
Not many playoff bound teams would want him.. Remember, he got benched in pretty much every year in the playoffs because he forgot how to play baseball.
White Sox? More like why watch?
Because they have good young talent and they’re finally coming out of their rebuild? That’s just one reason, but good play on words there.
Sox have a lot of strong young pitchers either already in the rotation (Giolito, Lopez, Cease) or coming up (Kopech, Dunning). Having an experienced backstop with exceptional framing skills and leadership qualities makes a huge difference in getting those guys up to speed. In an AL Central that’s mostly up for grabs between an Indians team on a downward trajectory, Twins team that overachieved in a weak division, and 2 teams still in the beginning stages of rebuilds, the Sox could be a force next year.
Winning 93 games is a downward trajectory? With all the injuries CLE had last year ( Kluber was pretty much a non factor ) and they still hung around till the last week of the season….They also have some pretty good young pitchers. The CWS do have a good looking young team, but we’ll see what 2020 brings.
Yasmani Grandal’s veteran presence and pitch-framing ability will do wonders for a White Sox pitching staff that is chock full of young power arms who still have some command issues to work through. The tandem of Grandal with another fine defensive catcher in James McCann is a perfect fit for the White Sox. McCann doesn’t possess Grandal’s knack for framing but he is one of MLB’s best catchers at stopping the opponents running game and also is a great game planner. The prep work he did with Lucas Giolito last season helped produce extraordinary results from 2018 to 2019.
The new catching duo isn’t just a good fit from the defensive end. It also makes for a nice balance in their lineup with McCann possessing a right-handed power bat to pair with Grandal’s switch-hitting one. The White Sox will also have young but defensively challenged Zack Collins on their 26-man roster in 2020 to be their #3 catcher, Abreu’s caddy at 1B and a left-handed power option to DH versus RHP pitching.
Nobody has alluded to one more fact here. Grandal adds to the White Sox bounty of Cuban born players. He now joins Abreu, Yoan Moncada and soon to be promoted uber-prospect Luis Robert in 2020. His signing keeps a White Sox tradition in full force, one that began with Minnie Minoso in the ‘Go-Go’ era, continued with Jose Contreras and Orlando ‘El Duque’ Hernández in 2005 and still flourishes to this day.
You forgot Alexei and Dayan Viciedo.
Purposely, at least in the case of Viciedo! lol
And Adrian Nieto
“Downward”? Do you actually follow MLB?
Stop commenting on wasted players until Trout does something in October. Who cares about MVP parades? Oh that’s right. Nobody has MVP parades…..
Bodes well for Realmuto. Hes going to get Posey-paid. Now maybe the Phillies can hammer out that extension and move on to other business.
No reason for Realmuto to sign an extension. It would be the stupidest thing for him to do financially. He is the only game in town regarding catchers. He could basically name his own price. He has Phillies over a barrel especially since they traded their top prospect. They will be forced to pay a king’s ransom… Only to regret it down the road if he signs. If he signs they’re screwed. If he leaves they’re screwed.
No chance he gets Posey money. That and the Mauer contract are ancient history. He’ll be closer to Grandal. JT’s projected to make $10.3 this year. I don’t think Phillies go past offering 5/100 on top of this year for a total of 6/110.
This gives him a very slight edge in AAV over Grandal and both would have their contracts run through age 34 seasons.
Don’t forget JT is still a year away from FA, unlike Grandal. 6/110 is more than fair.
The next Russell Martin or Brian McCann.
I think McCann already said that he’s retired.
I just meant the size of the contract and subsequent underperformance.
McCann had bigger money than grandal
K-Martin was as given a 5 year contract by Toronto and the extra year was one of the big reasons why the Pirates could not resign him.
He was worth the money the first year and maybe the second,but started trailing off in the third.He was way overpaid the fourth and the Blue Jays had to eat almost all of it the last year.
Bottom line is catchers do not last into their late thirties,and the overpay can be a lot of money.
The again,these teams that have the money do not seem to mind the gross overpay the last few years if it brings them a very good player the first two or three.
Thank god he didnt go to the Reds.
This Reds fan didn’t feel good about anything more than 2 years. Would’ve done 2/45, but watching guys like Posey/Martin/etc drop to below replacement-level production in their early to mid 30’s would prevent me from going to 4yrs like CWS did.
Agreed. Hard for an NL team to compete when he provides more value to an AL team by splitting his time at DH. Particularly in the out years of the contract.
Lucroy as well
Posey is not below replacement level
I don’t believe the Res are even serious about spending money just another way to get some fan interest.Obvious failure
Let’s go Sox!!!
Yes!!!
Well… damn… actually my original… smh
Wow. I criticized him last year and thought he made a horrible decision. Props to him. Ended up with essentially 5 years over 90 million.
Milwaukee has major rebuilding to do, with a farm system without difference making talent. Add the rules changes that will prevent them form bullpening games in Sept. and they are in for a major drop off.
All they need is a pitcher or 2 that can go deeper into games than 6 innings. There’s a few out there. The question is, will they spend the $$ on them instead of trying to outslug everyone.
the answer is no.
Definitely no . The window is closed
Marytown1 – Note sure where you get that they try and “outslug everyone”
2019 OPS+ = 102 ERA+ = 102
2018 OPS+ = 103 ERA+ = 110
2017 OPS+ = 100 ERA+ = 110
2016 OPS+ = 98 ERA+ = 105
I think people are ignoring how much a difference a catcher – who is considered to be the 2nd best pitch framer in the league behind Hedges – makes to a team that lacks quality arms.
The ERA for pitchers working with backup catcher Manny Pina was almost a full run lower then with Grandal.
The White Sox don’t lack quality arms. They have young, extremely talented arms that are still developing. This isn’t the Orioles.
Settle down now chief. You’ve got Dunning and Kopech coming off surgery. Can’t rely on them for serious production next season.
Must be an Orioles fan. Sorry, bro.
Yessir. But We’ve had bad pitching for most of my adult life. So that’s nothing new. We are where your Sox were 2 years ago.
But your young arms could stand to use a better framer. Kopech and cease are extremely talented but they aren’t elite strike throwers. Which adding Grandal should help.
Kopech you should be able to get 150 or so innings out of. He had TJ in September of 2018. By April he’ll be over 18 months post surgery. They weren’t counting on Dunning since he hadn’t made it to triple a yet.
Well, ONE of those ‘sub-quality’ arms just had a 20+ win season, bub. Cease is going to start tearin’ stuff up, and Kopech will continue to get better. With Grandal, pitchers are probably going to get 15-30% more of the missed calls they didn’t with McCann or Castillo…
That’s the same nonsense you said last year, while your cubbies sat home for the playoffs
I wouldn’t bury the Brewers quite yet. Long off season….they have plenty of money to spend this winter. Use those resources in other areas 1b, 3b, SS, SP, RP and the end result of a playoff berth, and finishing in front of the Cubbies, is accomplished.
I didn’t even consider how badly the rule changes are going to affect Counsell ball. Yikes, they may be in for a rough year if they can’t find some real starters.
So Grandal bet on himself, and well he was right. Shattered the Mets offer, got his AAV,made out with 91/5. Good on him.
From potential playoff team to a team that wont content for4 years. Overpay too
Shut up
Its the truth.
What makes you think the Sox won’t “content for4” years? That’s just a dumb statement on many levels.
Contend…there, now your failed trolling is fixed.
B/c we like, literally, do not know if they will, in fact, contend given they finished 17 games under .500 last year. Do I think they’ll contend eventually? I do b/c of the young pitching. But it actually has to happen. And the odds are it won’t happen longer term b/c most divisions have more than one team capable of winning (like the Twins and Indians in the ChiSox division). The litany of teams that rise up for a year and then fall back is quite large. Very few teams maintain a competitive window where they win a playoff series more than 2 years in a row. Players get hurt, arbitration hits the bottom line, non-core players get traded and are not properly replaced and other teams don’t stand still. It’s incredibly hard to win with any consistency – especially for a team with crappy attendance and an owner who isn’t willing to spend to acquire depth (meaning mistakes are more likely to be masked).
Thanks, he can feel content now.
The Indians are done “longterm”. The Twins aren’t a complete ballclub, and likely won’t be any time soon given their at the top of their budget right now.
The reason the Sox will contend, and soon, is the fact they won 72 games last year with lousy pitching and run production. Adding FAs, two highly regarded prospects (#1 ranked Luis Robert at CF, and Nick Madrigal (top 5 Sox prospect), the return of Michael Kopech, and improvements from sophomore Dylan Cease should be more than enough to push them to at least 90 wins and a playoff berth.
*no run production
“The Twins aren’t a complete ballclub, and likely won’t be any time soon given their at the top of their budget right now.”
You obviously don’t pay attention to other teams. The Twins have barely any payroll committed. In fact most experts expect they will be among the largest spenders this offseason. Oh and your new prize catcher?? He couldn’t carry Mitch Garver’s jock. Here’s to years of Twins’ domination coming again!
Not being “content” is a good thing!
The Twins don’t have the money… the Sox do. I’ll go ahead and call it right now—the Sox get one of Cole/MadBum/Wheeler, plus Keuchel.
The Twins have somewhere around 50 million to play with just to get to 2018/2019 payroll levels. They should arguably have even more than that. Whether they actually spend it is another story.
There’s no reason the Sox can’t contend. Anderson, Giolito, and Moncada broke out a year ago. A similar breakout should eventually happen for Eloy. Kopech is coming back. And they still have Robert and Madrigal knocking on the door.
plus- the AL Central is the worst division in the league.
Sure but they wont. They’ll be lucky to win 80 games.
Not to mention that Giolito might take another step forward with Grandal behind the plate
I’m not so sure about that. They have their ace and a not bad young core. With quite a few decent pitchers to come this yr or so. They aren’t as far off as you may think
Contend*
I had just woken up without my glasses. Sorry n Scheisse
Looks like McCann’s days in Chicago are done!
McCann is a solid backup who will face lefties and probably a few righties when Grandal DH’s.
Grandal is a switch hitter…
His point still stands…
But he will still DH a lot
Collins will get a shot this year. Grandal can catch, play first baseball and DH so it’s a big competition between Collins and McCann as who has a future in Chicago after 2020. I believe this is McCann’s last year before hitting free agency while Collins still has controllable years where if he performs well can stay here or be a huge trade piece.
This also opens up Collins being ‘part’ (2nd piece) of a trade to land a RF who can play sufficient D and hit lefty OR a second decent starter piece after hopefully signing a FA starter.
Mercedes much better DH option than Collins. Grandal can give Abreu occasional breather at 1B this year until Vaughn 2021. Gavin Sheets may even warrant a call-up late 2020.
He also has better numbers against LHP. I mean, you don’t sign someone for this kind of money and bench them from the side of the plate they have better numbers from just to get someone playing time. If anything, McCann will be the one going DH a lot.
Grandal will not play 1b. Collins and Jose will.
Collins isn’t even a top 10 catching prospect in MLB. How on earth does he help lever a starting ML ready starter. Or are you just suggesting he’s part of such a trade and not all that important a piece?
Catchers can’t play every day. The position is too hard. Every team has a backup that plays regularly.
The latter gcg15. Said 2nd piece knowing Collins is not a headliner to land a solid starter. Has undeniable power, young and if developed into an adequate part-time catcher/1B, a club may value the upside.
minor point to the overall point, but Grandal will play 1st when not catching.
Another Cuban in this potential 2020 line up of Abreu, Moncada, Grandal and possibly Robert! We should expect good things this year. Just go out and get Wheeler or Bumgarner!
no.
Uh, nope! Why would you think that?
A good team needs at least 2 quality catchers!
They should keep McCann. Collins can’t catch well enough to be a backup. They can rotate them at DH.
Weird. Catcher was one of the positions I thought CWS didn’t need, but I admit I don’t follow them very closely.
McCann dropped off drastically the second half of the season. The lineup is missing a bit of power too
that’s the same thing they said a few years ago when TB cut Dickerson. that logic worked out well, right?
They got good production from McCann in the 1st half. but he tailed off in the 2and half and is no lock to replicate the success on 2020. They also have nothing at the position in the minors.
they didn’t need one. but they get a new one every year
Grandal is one of the big difference-making bats available, at least at this point in his career. Sign for the offense and fit the defense later, the benefits of having the DH.
They don’t believe in BABIP king Mccann. Smart move. They’ll get something back in a deal for Mcannn. Maybe the Halos inquire?
Keep him as a backup. Grandal isn’t catching 162.
The shows the Sox are indeed serious about contending. Good fit on a team with a lot of young, Latino players. Very intersting to see if they can gain ground on the Twins & Indians.
Sucks that the Reds missed out on him but I don’t think I would’ve given him 4/$73M. Now the Reds can either turn to Chirinos as a stopgap or roll with Barnhart/Casali and spend that money on other positions. SS and corner OF have to be major focuses now
Or more likely sign a couple castoffs and make the pitiful excuses to the fans
honestly would rather see them concentrate on SS, OF, and bullpen anyway. Barnhart and Casali aren’t going to light up a scoreboard sure, but looking around the majors you could do a lot worse. Getting the pitching more airtight through nine innings is a must, and I know I’m in the minority but I’m fine with bringing J Iglesias back, because I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they miss the mark on Didi too. And as much as I’d like to disagree with ol burtgummer here, I’ve been a pretty pissed off fan for a few years too.. I just think they’re so close now, one spark of a bat, Votto regains form and a better bullpen and I think they have a shot at the wildcard.
Where can i see the free agent leaderboard tracking?
A+ signing White Sox
Wtf damn White Sox wasn’t expecting that. McCann on the block?
No.
Grandal is just a superior player. They also can rotate at DH.
Who do those sour grapes taste Wrek? Yummy I hope!!!!
Well that was unexpected
I didn’t play this who goes where card but I thought he would have went back to the reds organization
Abreu must be full time dh with Grandal going to first and McCann staying behind the dish. I do like this deal tho and if they sign a Bumgarner or Tier B starter to go with Giolito they could be interesting
Grandal is not going to first. He will be behind the plate most of the time. I can promise you that.
Did you see the season McCann just had offensively and defensively? Abreu is getting old and has declining defensive metrics. I can promise you that haha.
You’re talking like McCann’s offense was sustainable.
Grandal is a great defensive catcher no way he moves from behind the plate
Great? Based on what?
You need to do your homework, Senioreditor.
He was benched twice in the postseason, once for defensive reasons. I’ve done my homework BrewCrew, I’ve forgotten more baseball knowledge then you presently possess.
73 million smacks for Grandal is a massive overpay if you put him at 1B. He has to be a catcher for the dollars to make sense.
Birdsfordays, what makes you think he moves to 1B?
Nearly everyone’s percentage in the contest just took a hit.
Nobody cares.
Love the White Sox
Ignore him and he’ll go away, just like the magazine.
WOW
This makes so much sense for the White Sox, but I’m also not used to them doing things that make sense. I’m thrilled, but I think I’m even more shocked.
My boys!!! Hahnfather back at it. LETS GO!!!
78mil! Lol wow, didn’t expect a team that’s clearly in rebuild mode to go out and spend that kinda money on a freaking catcher.
The rebuild is over.
They have all core pieces in place, and now need to fill holes.
Just because you think that they are ” clearly in rebuild mode” doesn’t mean that they see themselves that way. I would expect that the White Sox fully intend to pursue many of the top players this off season in an effort to compete for a playoff spot in 2020.
McCann gets traded to the Red Sox as part of a package for Mookie Betts. White Sox are going all in this season!
Coming off a season where Christian Vazquez posted big offensive numbers I’m going to go out on a limb and say that a rental catcher like James Mcann offers absolutely nothing to the Boston Red Sox. Particularly as part of a Betts package.
I wonder what a trade for Betts involving the White Sox would look like. On one hand, he’s definitely gone after one season so that depresses his value versus if he had multiple years on his deal left. On the other hand, he’s one of the best players in the game. Tough to say…
There’s 4 moving parts in any potential Betts trade:
1) salary relief
2) starting pitching
3) replacement everyday OF
4) prospects.
They’re not going after all 4, but it needs to check some of those boxes. I’d say salary is the only absolute box, then a mix of the other three depends on how strong a trade is in the others.
The white sox have some of those pieces, but, they have to be willing to give them up too, and that’s part of the issue.
Will take Kopech back, you pay Mookie salary next year
Kopech for a rental? Are you out of your mind?
Hell-to-the no.
The only way white Sox are able to flip a catcher for Betts is if that catcher is Collins. Plus a lot more obviously. No way McCann helps even a minuscule amount in that trade.
Is he related to Manny Machado?
He’s a friend of a friend.
Wheeler next for them?
Definitely hope so!
James McCann a backup catcher? He had numbers very similar to Grandal last year and McCann is better defensively. Terrible move for the sox in my opinion.
McCann is trade bait now
Maybe the Dodgers have a look to replace Martin?
Where did you get your info that McCann is better defensively? MLB. Network just had Grandal as one of the best defensive catchers in baseball!!
Who was benched in the postseason for defensive reasons?
Grandal is a great framer. The automated strike zone is coming though in a yr or 2. That’s what makes this a silly signing.
Oh no. Then they’re just stuck with one of the best hitting catchers in baseball. What will they do?!
McCannon back to Detroit? Off to Milwaukee?
Atlanta
well that sucks. at least he didn’t go to a contender
Fantastic sign by the White Sox…Grandal makes them better in every respect. Excellent on base and power…great defender and he’ll really help their pitching staff.
noooooo
With the Padres, Grandal was suspended for PED use, was injured, and couldn’t throw anyone out.
I was thrilled when he was traded. I still dont like this guy.
I just dont trust him, and never will.
That trade was terrible. The Padres would have been better off non-tendering Grandal if he was really a problem.
By the way it was ONE injury. And one that he sustained in a home plate collision. Not a bunch of chronic recurring injuries like Wil Myers or Andrew Cashner.
The first three big(ish) signings of the offseason have all been announced on twitter by the team’s official accounts. Pretty impressive level of secrecy.
I like that he played on a one year prove it deal and did just that
I dont get all the hate…. Y’all are aware there’s a DH in the AL right? McCannon can play C/DH and Yasssssssmani can as well. If anything it keeps both guys fresher b/c hey wont need to crouch for 120 games a year.
Yep. You need two catchers who can hit a little these days.
Maybe a slight overpay, but I couldn’t care less. I expect Collins to be traded asap.
1 U of M catcher displacing another. I see it more likely that Mccann is shopped. Perhaps Collins stays to learn behind Grandal. I don’t know if you can reasonably expect Grandal to play catcher for the next 4 years.
I’m sure if someone wants Collins bad enough they’d move him but I doNt know if he’s out the door yet.
Haha, what are they gonna get for Collins? If he had any true potential, there’d be no need to spend this much money on a FA catcher.
They need to keep Collins in AAA and see if he can stick at Catcher.
He has no value if he can’t stick behind the plate. But they may need backup next season.
They aren’t trading Collins ASAP. They now have 4 players that will rotate through 3 positions – C/1B/DH. No different (situationally) than having Abreu/McCann/Yonder/Castillo last year.
The only bummer about this is what it means for Yermin Mercedes. I really wanted to see him hit at the big league level.
But I think we’re burying the lead here – NO MORE PALKA!
I see a lane for Mercedes as third catcher/DH.
With how righty-heavy they already are, I don’t see it without a trade.
Another padres screw up. The owner told new GM AJ to get rid of him….because of ped issues….now we need a catcher that can hit. Boycott Petco!
First big splash of a busy White Sox offseason. Don’t stop now boys! White Sox fans won’t just be satisfied with winning the ‘hot stove’ after a lengthy rebuild. We want November hardware too!
great signing, and finally a guy who also knows how/when to take a walk.
ChiSox did what they had to do. Now they still need a SP and at least 1 OF.
Not that ATL had a chance for Grandal, but I wonder if this signing sent AA into overdrive. Seems like all the available options are on the same level.
Amazong how commenters here can turn literally anything into something about the Braves. Is Atlanta even in the market for a starting C? Isn’t Flowers their guy? And yeah they might need a backup (although they just got Murphy from the Dbacks) the better FA’s aren’t signing to be a backup.
You really are stupid when it comes to baseball, seam.
Good for the player and the club.
I don’t like the idea of giving a 31 year old catcher big money for the next four years. There are exceptions (Yadi, etc.), but catchers seem to age like milk.
He’ll be solid for the next year or two, but the last part of that contract doesn’t look great. By then, they’ll probably be opening up the payroll but they’ll also have to start saving money for some of their younger pieces too.
The last two years he will be a high dollar DH you are right
Hahn bringing that fire with this early signing! The Sox just surpassed their franchise record contract with this deal, and it’s only November. I have a strong feeling they’re not done. Cole for 10/$300MM?? Sox fans would be hella stoked. Wheeler + Keuchel and Puig would be incredible. Best offseason in franchise history? Make it so Rick!
Love seeing the White Sox spend although I got this pick wrong in the contest.
Market is looking good for d’Arnaud and Chirinos. I’d expect the reds to hop in on those names or maybe enter the trade market if they’re not content with Barnhart
Get the word out Sox fans: It’s about to go down.
Queue the hype train
Good signing for the Sox, it’s been a very long time since the last one…and they didn’t even have to sign any of his friends or cousins.
Smart move. Switch-hitting, defensive-minded catcher who walks and hits for power.
He is exactly the type of player the team lacked.
This is a good signing, if for no other reason, because Sox fans are so tired of hearing Abreu’s contract mentioned during FA season.
18 million a year for a catcher DH is a big overpay by Sox….Good for Grandal he had no choice but take that crazy offer …plus MaCann will be making around 5 million this year …23 million just in the catching position…
it looks like a mid-season trade.
Contreras trade value just went up!
His numbers really aren’t much different than McCanns, and wis war is 50% lower.
So basically, it turns out, he got 5/$91.25M instead of taking the Mets offer last year (in terms of compensation only)
Good on him.
Solid move for the White Sox — upgrades their line-up, and gives them a “been there, done that” catcher. Additionally, the contract fits well with this team — it’ll be up by the time some of the younger guys get expensive via arb., and approach free agency.
Smart Move…probably added the extra year to cement the deal. They have a young staff that he can help develop and still take some time off to DH. Allows the CWS to include some assets in a trade McCann, Collins, Zavala or Mercedes.
And they didn’t even have to sign Grandal’s BFF or his brother-in-law. Rebuild ova!
best C they have had since those Carlton Fisk’s days. Go ChiSox. I picked you to win the Central in 2019….. so lets see what 2020 brings. Roberts, Jimenez, and Betts ???
You picked the W/Sox to win the Central in 2019? Are you serious? Do you even follow MLB?
The only issue I have in taking a one year deal to hold out for a multi year deal is is you get hurt that year, you’re SOL for another deal. A bird in the hand …
Man I’m really sucking at the Free Agent Prediction Contest. I had Grandal going to the Astros. The only one I’ve gotten correct so far is Waino with the Cardinals.
NICE!!!!!!!
18.25 million a year and four years and you’re getting a very good catcher but not someone that’s going to get you any closer to a championship.
Uhhhh. What?
well, it gets them 1 or 2 regular season wins closer. so… it’s closer.
Uh, Grandal makes the pitching staff and lineup better, so common sense tells me they’re one step closer to a championship than they were yesterday. Still more work to be done, but the Sox are headed in the right direction. They’re probably an 83-win as currently constructed.
So they shouldn’t have made the move? Were you trying to make sense?
Thought ATL was going to step up and sign him.. Wonder if this deal affects them signing Abreu.
Classic Atkins just “checking in” on Grandal for “information gathering” with no actual intent to sign him. Same with Odorizzi, same with Wheeler. I see yet another offseason of dumpster diving.
“…sterling defensive reputation..” I guess numbers don’t lie. But his last year on the Dodgers was pass ball city. Maybe just a bad year I suppose.
Weakens brewers so I love the signing .
So the Sox dropped from a 3.8 war catcher to a 2.5 catcher and people think this is great move?
Or they upgraded from a 2.3 fWAR catcher to a 5.2 fWAR catcher…
rWAR doesn’t have framing added in. fWAR does. They are about even on
rWAR when you account for framing. Grandal has the longer track record of success and probably the better future.
Except MLB May be getting an automated strike zone in the next yr or two.
I think the sox should wait another year before diving into the free agent market with their prospect pitchers hitting the DL with TJS last year, unless Grandal knows something McCann doesn’t on handling pitchers coming back from injury or a younger staff.
Since taking over Hahn has spent $251M on FAs that produced 23.5 WAR….take out Abreu and it is $188M that produced -0.8 WAR (Courtesy of sox machine). Other than Abreu, this is Hahn’s best FA signing. Hahn and the Sox have been abysmal when acquiring talent in the FA market…this is not one of those abysmal acquisitions. Nice no-brainer move at 4/$73M.
It’s a new day for the Sox. Clearly, Reinsdorf is letting his GM target better FAs than he used to.
McCann is better to be honest, especially at that price.
Mccann is not better than Yasmani Grandal in anyway.
i really want to know why anyone thinks Grandal is even above average. all he does is play average defense, have good plate discipline, and has 20 HR power. (which isnt even very impressive for a catcher nowadays) he cant hit above .240 and doesnt have much defensive versatility. and, i may add, he also declined in the second half, though he wasnt as good to start the season. Grandal isnt a terrible catcher, dont get me wrong, but that’s silly money for someone of that profile when you have McCann, Collins, Mercedes, and Zavala all in-house and collectively cheaper. he’ll be as worth his contract as Castillo was.
What’s so hard to figure out? 4th in WAR for catchers 2017-2019.
J.T. Realmuto ………. 12.5
Willson Contreras .. 9.8
Gary Sanchez …….. 8.3
Yasmani Grandal … 8.0
McCann has one year left, and regressed at end of season, Mercedes can’t catch, Collins can’t catch or hit LHP and Savala stinks.
war on its own means very little. how many people out there think Sanchez (ahead on this list) is terrible? its a good number. you don’t win games do to war.
Yasmani Grandal is an a above average defensive catcher who is elite offensively. James Mccann just produced a BABIP dependent good season that looks completely unsustainable. Grandal’s xWOBA was .361. That’s the same as Yoan Moncada. That’s 20 points higher than JT Realmuto.
I don’t know what you’re missing. But you’re missing it. You can talk about WAR or 35 other things that make Grandal an excellent option behind the plate. Grandal is not Gary Sanchez defensively so bringing him in is irrelevant.
Sanchez is also a 1.7 fWAR and 2.3 fWAR respectively over the last 2 seasons. So Idk what your issue is here but WAR tells you Sanchez wasn’t that great of a catcher the past 2 seasons also. Grandal has been worth over 4 fWAR for the past 5 seasons. He’s one of best at his position.
Doug you did not add correctly because Grandal is well over 12 fWAR for the past 3 seasons. He’s at 14 which trails only Realmuto over that time period. Who are head and shoulders above anyone else over the past 3 years.
Which should come as no surprise. I believe Realmuto is the hands down best catcher but I’d certainly consider Grandal to be a top 5 option.
fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=c&stats=bat…
elite offense? ridiculous, catcher or otherwise. and i said other people were down on Sanchez, not myself.
Yasmani Grandal the last 2 seasons has been 21% and 25% above the league average offensively. That’s for all positions. If you do not thinks that’s elite for a catcher you are a fool.
He is only behind Realmuto in WAR. He’s hit more homeruns than any Catcher over that time period. His OBP is higher than any catcher over the 3 year period. Or 2 year if you prefer to look at a smaller window. You’ve yet to make a compelling point why he’s not extremely good. Other than you don’t think so. Which again is not supported by any evidence.
Stating James Mccann is a better catcher than Grandal is just flat out stupid.
Poor Reds, and poor McCann. Good signing though!
I wonder how many games AJ Preller traded away when he sent Grandal and his PED issue to the Dodgers for Matt “I ain’t got a hip problem, it’s my attitude!” Kemp?
The cost of trading for Caratini or Contreras just went up. Theo has to squeeze every ounce of getting the best prospects for one of them. I like Caratini, but feel that Theo will keep Contreras. Catchers are a premium now in MLB.
JT gonna get 4 years $100 mil
White Sox 2020….it is their year…..they have the money,,,,,,,players……..prospects……a slow start will cost Renteria his job !
I’m pretty sure a troll predicted he’d get 2 years tops and be lucky to get 3 before the offseason started. Betting they wouldn’t dare own up to that prediction, hah.
im certaibly a bit surprised by both the length (though 4 years isnt outlandish) and the cost, and think its an overpay, but it doesnt look too incredibly ridiculous.
It may be a slight overpay, but I think it’s worth it to: A) make a big splash early and announce they’ll be aggressive this time around, B) appease their fan base after last year, C) address a position of distinct need with the hands-down best available option. Once JD opted in and without Castellanos signing (I have no hope of them landing Cole), they knew they wouldn’t be able to do that at any other position until probably at least January.
I’m just happy someone in a White Sox uniform will finally understand how to draw a walk.
I’m sorry but he is overrated. He isnt good for young pitchers and worries more about numbers then team. Almost 20 million for a guy who gives you the same numbers as Avila Garcia. Framing is all good and that but if you cant call a game then what’s the point.
there is something to be said about how he bought a pretty meh Brewers staff to the playoffs last year. though on the other hand, framing is in the eye of the beholder, and if pekple want to use the “well, there will be DH soon” argument for the NL, the same can be said about robot ups, which will kill off pitch framing.
im more upset about losing his on base percentage. Dude was legit on base 3-4 times a game. Pina is more than capable of handling a staff–actually does it better than Grandal imo.
Huge loss to the lineup though–good thing this was early so we have time to adjust.
Idk why people are saying “Brewers are toast” lol people leave in FA all the time. You get someone else either trade/FA–maybe never get a catcher to fill his shoes, but use that money to get more offense out of third/short/first and they’ll be fine.
Grandal is not a franchise player. Losing him sucks but we will get someone else or even a few guys to replace the production.
Not too mention framing may go away with the automated strike zone coming soon.
Too many Umps suck for sure, but pitch framing is vastly overrated, regardless of the quality of calling balls & strikes.. Looking over a C shoulder, the visual is the point where the ball crosses the plate, NOT when it reaches the C glove. Catchers frame, not because it works to a large degree, but simply because it works perhaps 1% of the time and in BB it’s just another slight – VERY slight edge.
I don’t know man apparently it’s a huge deal. It’s almost the important aspect of what a catcher offers. Which is silly and I hope the robo umps are coming.
I would say this puts us in line to sign a FA pitcher or trade for a top one no?
PHA
Honestly, I think this could have a major impact on the Brewers ability to return to the postseason, regardless of Yelich’s prescence.
And if Moose leaves there’s no doubt in my mind that the Brewers are toast…
Moose? I can’t imagine he’ll stay.
if they offer him the most he will. id say it’s actually quite likely given their continued need at 3B.
Great first half statistics then wears out quickly in second half. Maybe being in AL will preserve him? Not sure WS ready to contend but they have some pieces.
His last 90 AB’s in September he had an OPS of .926
big loss to the lineup but i think all Brewer fans knew this was happening. I strongly feel that Moose is going to come back–Grandal looked like he wanted the highest offer possible regardless of city and just ran with it.
Cant hate on that. He bet on himself by taking a one year deal and did work for us. That on base machine in front of yeli now gone will hurt–HAVE to replace that production or its going to be more solo shots for Yelich unfortunately
This a good signing for the White Sox and has at least two positives, one is that he gives them a big upgrade at the catcher position offensively and defensively and the other on is that they got rid of their worst hitter from this season in the process.
To the Photoshopper: Good job, but the White Sox have retired #9 for Minnie Miñoso. It looks like Grandal’s going with 8.
Sad to see Grandal leave. He was one of my favorites.
With that being said, the Brewers seem to have focused more on Moose than Yasmani, which im okay with. Sign moose, and maybe D’Arnaud? Id be okay with that. I was concerned with giving a 31 year old catcher a guaranteed 4 year deal in the NL, with no DH to help with the wear and tear. Kinda glad they didnt go all out on one guy.
The NL needs to get a DH–it is making it unfair for teams in the NL to make offers without that in their pocket.
Good luck in Chicago–glad hes out of the league though, would have been upset if he went to the Braves or Reds.
Can anyone tell me why/when the AL got one, and not the NL? would love a history lesson on why exactly this is a thing.
According to the bleacher report WS are already shifting gears to wheeler
bleacherreport.com/articles/2863716-zack-wheeler-r…
Smokescreen to catch Atlanta and division rival Minnesota napping when they swoop in for lefty Bumgarner! Kidding, but hoping.
As soon as the Twins fill up their rotation, it’s going to be a three team race in the Central. That’s great for baseball.
Two team. Sox won’t contend till ’21
I really think it might be a 3 team race. Minnesota and Cleveland are, no question, talented, but you have to expect some progression from a young White Sox team, plus the regression from the older pitching staff in Cleveland and the Twins that clearly pitched over their head. I believe it’s going to be a lot closer than you’re giving it credit for.
I’m not saying the White Sox are the clear cut favorite, but you have to give them their due… young and talented and adding veteran leadership with post-season experience is a large plus. Twins still have to fill out 60% of their rotation. While I think they will, I don’t believe it’s going to be the top end talent some folks are predicting. Plus, at 40 years old next season, how long can Nelson Cruz produce at that level?
Of course it’s just my opinion, but I think it’s going to be a 3-team race for the Al Central and I’m looking forward to it. Overall, a very good signing for the White Sox.
halofanatic, I agree with majority of your points, but can’t help but point out that it’s not the ‘older pitching staff in Cleveland’ that is worrisome.
Bieber is only turning 25.
Clevinger is turning 29.
And Plutko/Civale both turning 25 seem like they can stick.
Pretty impressive the way they didn’t miss a beat with the holes left from Kluber and Carrasco’s missed time, plus Bauer’s trade. Not to forget they probably expected Salazar back by now.
The real worry for the Indians is facing a likely still improving White Sox team so often. Went 8-11 against them last year. Gap might really be closing, and a 3 team race has some strong potential!
Little upset my Braves couldn’t pull the trigger and get him. But it makes sense. Not sure he is exactly the difference maker we need anyways. Just wanted that bop in our lineup
I will say this… lot of money for that guy. Way too much in fact. Crazy how a market can make teams do funny things. I’d argue I don’t even understand this move for the Sox. This doesn’t make them competitive overnight. They got a lot more pieces to fill
Their front office was getting a ton of heat for talking smack about spending and not getting anyone. They almost have to overpay a bit and then probably still can’t land the Cole’s and Strasburgs of the Word.
Well, there are already 2 articles over at Fangraphs that disagree with you. In fact, one of them says:
“I wouldn’t worry about the fourth year of the contract. Why? Because I’d sign Grandal to a three-year, $73 million contract. There are only a few players with an All-Star baseline available to sign every year.”
I think I’ll stick to their opinions on the value of this deal.
And you generally fill those pieces one at a time.
Sure more pieces to fill but if you do not start by filling one how can you fill any?
So in your mind they were supposed to not sign anybody because no one player will take them all the way to contention?
I’m ecstatic about Grandal, but I’ll be the first to admit he doesn’t even get them to the playoffs if that’s the only change from last year. If he was their only move, I’d agree with you. But they have the flexibility to still sign a guy like MadBum or Wheeler *and* Castellanos. That would be a really strong offseason. With many of the Twins having had career years last year and the Indians considering trading Lindor, the AL Central is winnable if the White Sox are aggressive this offseason and see some improvement from their young core.
Braves should try for James McCann and Mathew Boyd. Could send Touki Toussaint, Bryce Wilson and William Contreras for the pair.
They don’t play on the same team so I find it very hard to believe that Matt Boyd and James Mccann will be involved in a package together
Yea I guess he thought McCann was still with the Tigers.
Watch MLB get the automated strike zone soon, and negate Grandal’s best asset in pitch framing.
Hey Bush1-league. Your teams biggest off-season move to date is a new message therapist. Well done son!!!!
Are you aware that it is a week before Thanksgiving in November and 90% of the teams haven’t signed anyone yet? Or would that hurt your massage therapist joke?
White Sox = Boom, Cubs = Fizzle
After rebuilding for 10 years I’d hope the White Sox could finally have a winning season.
Only about a hundred years less than the Cubs needed to rebuild for.
So creative, I’ve never heard the 100 years Cub joke. Because what happened during WW1 is relevant…. But seriously the White Sox have been legit rebuilding for 10 yrs. no joke. Sure, the Cubs didn’t win a World Series for a long time, but when they actually did it right and did a rebuild for the first time ever it took 3 years
No, they legit haven’t. A rebuild happens when you tear a team down. The Sox fooled themselves into thinking they were just one past-his-prime star away from contending every year for the first half of the decade. The rebuild began when they traded away Sale and Eaton. I’ll grant that they’ve sucked for a long time, but it hasn’t been a rebuild for a long time. The rebuild since then has actually gone faster than the Astros rebuild did (which had 4 straight 100-loss seasons) from the time they blew it up. Whether the Sox’ ceiling is that high will depend largely on whether the Jaws of Life can pry open Reinsdorf’s wallet any further.
As a Cubs fan, I never had a White Sox grudge. I’m happy the south siders opened the wallet to become relevant again. Great signing!!
So much better than hanging a strip of flypaper back there.
Merkin reports: Hahn with more on Grandal: “He and I, since things became official late last night, we’ve been texting back and forth about various guys both on our roster and available throughout the league. He really has a deep deep knowledge of how to maximize a pitcher’s ability.”
resigning moose has got to be top priority for sterns.
Great pickup for the White Sox. Now if only they can get Castellanos and either MadBum or Wheeler. Non-tender Yolmer and try to rework his deal to bring him back as a super=utility guy. Opening day payroll would be around $130M and the only hole in the batting order would be at DH. If (and I realize it’s a big if) at least two of the following happen – Kopech comes back strong from surgery, Rodon comes back and finally stays healthy, Cease figures out how to get through the first inning without giving up 3+ runs, Lopez rediscovers his 2018 form – that rotation could actually be an asset for a change.
Good strategy by Gandall. I’m sure he saw he would be leaps and bounds the best C on the market this off season.. Worth that kind of salary? Not even close and WOW can’t believe the Sox paid him that that $…., but supply=demand..
Gandalf’s brother?
If the white sox sign a pitcher like Wheeler or MadBum , it really shakes up the free agency and trade market for the contenders.