The Padres are set to hire Larry Rothschild as their new pitching coach, Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports. The 65-year-old was recently let go by the Yankees with one year remaining on his contract. Rothschild will be replacing one of the game’s longest-tenured coaches, Darren Balsley, who will change gears and work as a special assistant working with the club’s minor league pitchers.
Rothschild has spent the past nine seasons as the pitching coach in the Bronx and spent nine years prior to that as the pitching coach for the Cubs. He has extensive experience working as a minor league pitching coordinator and Major League bullpen coach, and he was also the inaugural manager of the Rays — a role he held from 1998 to 2001. Balsley, according to Acee, is taking on a less-demanding role in the organization to spend more time with his son, who has committed to play for San Diego State once he graduates high school this spring.
It’s the latest of several changes in the San Diego dugout this offseason. Manager Andy Green was fired after four years on the job, and he’s been replaced by the Rangers’ Jayce Tingler. Meanwhile, the Friars are also set to announce the hiring of Phillies infield coach Bobby Dickerson as their new bench coach.
Roth’s child of mine!!!
Nope.
I’d have gone with Iron Maiden’s “Wrathchild” if pressed to offer a heavy metal pun but admit that neither yours nor mine is very good.
Lol, Good Luck with that!
They just hired a pitching coach to develop their young starting pitchers that got fired by the Yankees because he could not develop their young (or old) starting pitchers.
Preller has a pattern. Apparently he’s found a Manager that thinks like him.
So, what’s the skinny on the Padres next Baseball Ops guy in 2021?
while it is a different age in pitching, if u look back at his resume rothschild has done a damn good job with his pitching staffs
So has Balsley. The complaints that Balsley’s haters (all 3 of them) had are just as if not more valid with Rothschild.
Balsley is the best. Hope it was his idea to start the youngsters the right way while they’re new to the farm. More time with his boy is priceless!
Tatis, I thought you said Balsley would never be gone, never say never
Well obviously he isn’t going to live forever.
I would definitely day that if this call was anyone’s except Balsley’s, that person needs to be fired.
definitely say*
Huge win for the Padres. This should help lure some more players.. Love that we now have Balsley AND Rothschild. Keep it going fellas… Uniforms tomorrow, Stras or Cole soon.
One or the other
Setting the table by cutting Yardley loose.
Dream on buddy Dream on. Stop banging your Vans tennis shoe against your head brah
Speaking of banging heads… is gardner going to be banging his head on the yankees clubhouse ceiling in 2020?
pumped for the uni unveil tomorrow as well
Not getting either but nice try. Only cole going to padres is cole hamels lol
Or Felix Hernandez, now that he probably has nothing left in the tank.
Pitching coaches don’t lure players. I never played for a pitching coach, I played for my manager. The leader of the team. Who is that again? Tingle Berries? He would sure inspire me. Inspire me to make jokes about him that is.
Here come the nicknames…..
I thought you came here ONLY talk serious baseball?
Hypocrite much?
Tingler seems like a standup guy. Give him a chance.
You never played period
PS: How’s that “Hunter Renfroe won’t be a Super Two” assertion working out for ya?
Hunter is good trade bait for a SP along with Myers and Naylor see ya two of those three will not be on the team in 2020
Myers as trade bait XD XD XD
So where are Renfroe and Naylor being traded to?
Serious baseball discussion only, please…
I don’t think Cole or Stras will be coming to town. Nice thought though.
Hope the unis are good-looking, just like me.
Strasburg or Bumgarner as a FA and Kershaw via trade for Hosmer, Myers and a RP would be a great 1 & 2. Paddack, Gore and Richards at 3, 4, 5. Can you say playoffs?
DREAM ON Padres would have to trade five players for Kershaw
Good for Rothschild!
Prowler ain’t f****** around. He is doing a complete shake up
It’s the tingle meister.
It’s tingle berries.
He is giving me the blue tingle berries waiting for more to drop.. tomorrow will be the beginning of Preller Palooza I believe.
Maybe he can get Kemp and the Upton brothers again. I hear two of them can be had on the cheap this time.
He wants that shiny off-season trophy to cool his seat.
if preller “wins best off season” that only makes his seater hotter
Prowler. Basturd spawn of Preller and Fowler.
LOL
Preller’s a GM—how ’bout you? Show a little respect.
Get off your high horse.
Like when he traded Trea Turner?
Who would you rather have? If the Padres haven’t had gone “all in” and traded Turner for Myers and then signed Shields, they wouldn’t have acquired Tatis Jr.
So much of this is not true.
The Padres might have been able to trade for Myers without including Turner. Preller thought Turner didn’t have the arm for short, You know, 14 FWAR / World Series champion SS Trea Turner.
Add that to the Grandal trade and the Hosmer signing as an antidote to the “AJP is perfect” crowd. The Padres could have signed Shields without trading for Myers. They’d already committed to a Big Bang. Not trading for Myers might have made them MORE likely to sign Shields.
But let’s say they did neither — didn’t acquire Myers, didn’t sign Shields. Preller already had his eye on Tatis, and the White Sox didn’t care much for him. How do we know that? Because they gave him up for the wreck of James Shields, who stank on ice and had just been publicly called out by Fowler. Preller could have acquired Tatis in any number of deals.
Fast forward to last off-season.
You don’t sign Kinsler.
During spring training, it’s clear Tatis is The Man, and Turner moves to 2b.
Urias gets a full season in the minors and isn’t treated like dog crap.
Even with the useless bulk of Hosmer at 1b, the Padres have the best defensive infield in the game, along with great offense from 3 of 4 spots.
Yes they would have still acquired Tatis idiot. Billy Baroo above me proved this. And even then, Tatis is always hurt while Turner is a World Series champion.
I would have not signed Machado, developed Tatis as a 3B, put Turner at SS, called Urias and Tatis up once they had that extra year of control locked down and then used the money I wasn’t paying Machado and Myers to go all-in on Gerrit Cole.
Tatis wasn’t free…he cost us over 40 million.
Seriously, the “Padres wouldn’t have traded for Tatis if they hadn’t traded Turner” narrative is almost as ridiculous as the “Machado wouldn’t have signed with the Padres if they hadn’t signed Hosmer first” narrative. If anything, not signing Hosmer would have helped them sign Machado because they could have thrown more money at him.
Really Padre fan using that analogy so back and beyond. This just in there are other ways to get Tatis other than wasting $ on free agent
Monday morning quarterbacking. Okay, let’s play—I would have drafted Mike Trout instead of…. (I’m gonna look it up).
I would have drafted Mike Trout at #3 in 2009 instead of Donovan Tate. There you go…..
An boy, is he worth it!!! Yippee kay yay, foemoes!!!!
Who cares who you would have signed? You would still have Balsley as pitching coach too, but that isn’t the case. If the Padres hadn’t had Shields to trade to the White Sox who were looking for a veteran innings eater at the tie, how would they have gotten Tatis? And you act as though Turner has never been on the IL.
And please, be an adult and stop the name calling. I am a fan of Balsley too, but just because one of your “I’m right and your wrong” statements didn’t come true, no need to be cranky.
There are other ways yes, but that is the way it happened. In a fantasy league, Mike Trout could also be traded, but in real life he is not.
@beersy they could have traded Andrew Cashner for Shields. Or even Christian Friedrich. If the White Sox were willing to trade Tatis for Shields’ clearly underwater contract, the Padres would have had no problem getting him for one of those guys.
How many days in his entire professional career has Turner spent on the DL/IL due to chronic, non-HBP-related injuries?
How do you know that? You are not always right, proof in point that Balsley is no longer the pitching coach. And I am not a Balsley hater, but Tingler should get to choose his own staff as it is his job on the line.
And how would the Padres have traded Cashner for Shields? If the Padres hadn’t signed Shields, he may still have been a free agent?
Yes, Tingler should get to choose his own coaching staff. But why would he WANT to replace Balsley? He had the single best pitching coach at his disposal and he replaces him. And not even with a guy who satisfies the areas that Balsley’s haters claim he is lacking. He probably isn’t long for the job.
That was a typo. I meant the Padres would have traded Cashner or Friedrich for Tatis, not Shields. But I think you know what I meant. And before you say that Cashner and Friedrich had no trade value, remember who the White Sox ended up trading Tatis for.
Also, I love how you blatantly ignore my question about Trea Turner. Idiots always try to call Turner injury prone then go into hiding when I point out the fact that basically ALL of his DL/IL time was from getting hit by a pitch. That could have happened to anyone and is not a risk factor for future injury. Real big of you to ignore the part of my comment that you can’t even try to refute.
Yeah. That’s what I thought.
Didn’t ignore the injury prone comment, but I also didn’t say Turner is injury prone. If you would care to re-read my comment, I said, “and you act as though Turner has never been on the IL”. Not sure how you get injury prone from that?
I always thought the product on the field would make it hard to be a Padre fan, but I was wrong, you make it hard to be a Padre fan.
A pair of freak injuries that aren’t evidence of a recurring problem proves nothing.
And the “rockstar” super-scout could have signed him the year before for $800K. Just like the White Sox.
I seriously dont understand the Preller worship. Not at all.
“And the ‘rockstar’ super-scout could have signed him the year before for $800K. Just like the White Sox.”
Nailed it
I’ll take Tatis anyday over Turner, Turner bombed out in the WS looked bad
Tatis is always hurt and it was never a one-or-the-other proposition.
The real question is: Do you prefer Myers over Turner?
Bruh at this point I think most fans would prefer Jose Pirela over Myers
Couldn’t hurt
There ya go buddy, get that job.
Glad Balsley is staying in the org, but I do agree, it was time to make a change.
Padres are an interesting NL team to watch. I look forward to seeing the developments and improvements made. Perhaps sometime in the next decade we will meet in the World Series again
Good hire. He’s a solid coach
The Yankees pitching suffered through Rothschild so the Padres hire him? That seems like a really bad hire for the Padres.
Ryan is going to be so mad. What say you Tatis?
I don’t think you can pin the Yankees pitching issues at his feet and certainly not the lone cause. These moves are made for different reasons. The guy went through manager changes and still kept his job there. He has experience and has had some success. The Yankees may simply be shaking things up as teams do all the time. If I was a Padres fan I’d be fine with this hire. The Padres are right there on the cusp of coming alive. A few pieces here and there and they’ll be contending for a number of years
He was fired because of those failings. So yes, I can pin the Yankees pitching issues on him. Cashman sure did and he is a lot smarter baseball man than you or I. .
Preller has a habit of taking out Cashman’s garbage.
Having said that, I hope Roth can make a difference. It’s the Major Leagues, not some “developmental” squad. Maybe they need more than a babysitter.
You’ll see Roth is going to be better than Bals
No one is better than Balsley and Roth doesn’t even fill the areas Balsley’s haters say he was weak in.
Balsley was phenomenal. Turned many pitchers around. Extremely thorough.
Brad Hand obscurity to All-Star closer. Kirby Yates obscurity to All Star closer.
Jake Peavy, Mike Adams, Heath Bell etc.
I could go on and on all greatly benefited from Balsleys tutelage.
Maybe you should go on and on. For every “success” you try to credit to Balsley, I’ll give you five failures. Deal?
Pitchers who didn’t succeed anywhere including San Diego don’t count as Balsley failures
@koamalu You’re asking for drama with that comment lol.
From Ryan? Have not seen Tatis in a few days. Was he banned again?
Koamalu = Pads Fans = outinleftfield = websoulsurfer = WatermelonMtnScout = The Padfather
He isn’t even trying to be subtle about it anymore.
Sand iego the place careers go to die!
lol… 1/2 the coaching staff and FO of the WS Cubs came from SD.. Astros AJ Hinch SD.. Dave Roberts SD.. seems like SD is where Managers/GMs and even Larry L (Redsox) come to be groomed.. Bochy + Black.. on and on and on
So it looks like SD needs to learn when and how to hold ’em.
Also the beautiful woman capital of the world. We send them to your town when it’s time to settle for 5th or 6th best.
Nope.
Awful move.
I like this. DB can have a better impact by working with minor league pitchers so they’re ready when they get to San Diego instead of fixing and fine tuning them when they get there. Sneaky good move here.
Tingler getting to pick his own staff? Good that they kept Balsley around to work with the young guys in the minors..
There is almost zero chance Tingler is picking his own staff. I’m sure he has some input, but this is Preller’s ship to sink or sail.
As a Yankees fan I can tell Padres fans you have no idea what you are in for. This guy was released because he flat out refused to adapt to the modern style. Your rotation is a mess as it is this guy will only make it worse.
If he’s not into numbers AJ wouldn’t have hired him. Our rotation is still being worked out. That should be obvious even to a Yankee fan. We need help in a lot of areas but especially with our pitching, Hiring Roth and keeping Balsey is a win win situation. Who’s your new pitching coach and where did he come from? Maybe you had better worry about that.
Why not? He hired Andy Green.
Thanks for the good words of advice NOT, why did the Yanks keep him for 15 yrs then,
Spending more time with his
son. That’s awesome!
Only place that should be signing this guy up is a retirement village in Florida. The only big decision he should be making is the choice between the lime or the orange jello after 4 o’clock supper.
That’s a BS response PopeMarley, what a pathetic loser. He has amazing experience throughout a long career. Would you say that about your dad. Just shut up already.
Need ointment?
So you’re agreeing with the Pope calling Rothschild “a pathetic loser”. You either need a newer Snuggie, maybe change out your service animal, or just have the center adjust your meds. Relax Nancy.
No safe spaces around these parts bruh!
I knew that they’d let Balsley go. It’s part of the business…sadly.
Read the article lol Balsley is still in the org
As pitching coach of the San Diego Padres…
Good hire…..these organizations that are going all analytical match ups, will never develop top end starters going forward.
Balsley will remain in the org, but in a diminished capacity. Word is that the change was Balsley’s choice. Better be true because he really is the best pitching coach in the game and for those who wanted to replace him with a “new school” pitching coach or whatever, Rothschild ain’t it.
Balsley was fired as major league pitching coach.
And if that was anyone’s call other than Balsley, the person who made that call needs to be shown the door.
Good Move Aj preller and my San Diego Padres now get my Pitching Free Agents like Strasburg , Cole or Cole Hamels … We need a good Veteran Starting Ace caliver Pitcher !!! and i heard the Red Sox want to Trade Bradley Jr, we can pair it send Back Manuel Margot for Jackie Bradley Jr, is not a bad idea.. both teams will win with this trade. AJ… GO PADS!!!
Not sure if AJ wants to trade with Boston after they traded him some damaged good in Anderson Espinoza.
Good hire in my opinion. They need some experience in that dugout with an inexperienced manager. Best available pitching coach. SD will be an interesting team to follow this off-season. I’ll never understand the Hosmer deal though
Guys been awful since his days with the cubs
Some people asked for proof that Balsley wasn’t going to return as pitching coach and to them I say, is this enough proof!?
Now the pitching is all but guaranteed to regress in 2020
You’re just a hater…what proof do you have that they’ll regress?
Balsley being the best pitching coach in the world and them replacing him. And not even replacing him with a “younger, more analytically-driven” pitching coach, which is what the Balsley haters wanted.
Bals is in the top ten as a pitching coach get off your high horse unless he’s your Daddy
That is your opinion, Junior…you got proof he’s the best pitching coach on the planet?
Ask Brad Hand, Kirby Yates, Jake Peavy, Heath Bell, Tyson Ross, Fernando Rodney, Trevor Hoffman and Mat Latos if they think Balsley is the best pitching coach on the planet… Junior.
Still opinion…
Peep their stats. And then peep those same stats that they had pitching for other teams under different pitching coaches. It’s not a coincidence.
Latos?
Woody Williams, Chris Young, Buddy Bauman, Andy Cahsner, Kevin Quackenbush, Robbie Erlin and Clayton Richard…
Literally all the guys you named either are AAAA types or had their best seasons under Balsley. Christ, Chris Young was an All Star under Balsley.
Best case scenario for you is that 4 of the examples you gave prove my point and the rest are debatable.
Bryan Mitchell. For one.
Bryan Mitchell? Come on bruh. That guy has been garbage everywhere he’s been. If he’s Balsley’s failure he’s everyone’s failure.
I thought you said Bals is the best in the world why did our ERA come in the middle of the pack, why eight losing seasons if he’s so good, why not one SP who pitched a nine inning shutout in 2019, Hello are you still there
LOFT and a manager who mismanaged his pitchers is the reason why the things you mentioned happened.
Mitchell was 100% Preller. And Balsley couldn’t help him one bit.
And what pitching coach could?
So the only thing he has done lately is develop a couple good relievers?
1. More than a lot of pitching coaches can say
2. Tyson Ross, Jake Peavy, Mat Latos, Ian Kennedy and Chris Paddack are all starters
Wait, didnt yankee fans just boast how great their pitching has been the past 5 years? Might have been another thread. Now you guys are saying Rothschild is garbage? Make up you Yankee minds.
You’re referring to that South beach kid. He always tows the company line until.
Too bad he couldn’t help Adam Warren, Aaron Loup, Brad Wieck, Luis Perdomo, Nick Margeviscius, Phil Maton, Robbie Erlin, Matt Wisler, Carl Edwards, Robert Stock, Bryan Mitchell, Brett Kennedy, Jordan Lyles, Walker Lockett, Phil Hughes, Tyler Webb, Kyle McGrath, Buddy Baumann, Kaz Makita, Travis Wood, Jared Weaver, Christian Bethancourt, Jarred Cosart, Zack Lee, Kevin Quackenbush, Dillon Overton, Jose Torres, Brandon Mauer, Jose Ruiz, Jose Valdez, Cory Mazzoni, Carter Capps, Tim Melville, Christian Friedrich,Colin Rea. Paul Clemens, Edwin Jackson, James Shields, Cesar Vargas, Erik Johnson, Michael Kirkman, Leonel Campos, Jake Smith, Brandon Morrow, Jose Dominguez, Matt Thornton, Keith Hessler, Ordrismer Despaigne, Casey Kelly, Jon Edwards, Dale Thayer, Jay Jackson, Frank Garces, Shawn Kelley, Bud Norris, Marcos Mateo, Chris Rearick, Eric Stults, Jessie Hahn, Donnie Roach, Joe Wieland, Jason Lane, Alex Torres, Hector Ambriz, Troy Patton, RJ Alvarez, Burch Smith, Sean O’Sullivan, Thad Weber, Anthony Bass. Joe Thatcher,Colt Hynes …. (draws breath) …
1. Several of those guys struggled due to injuries or legal trouble (Jose Torres), not results.
2. I counted one or two guys who had any kind of success elsewhere.
3. Some of those guys (Dale Thayer, Jesse Hahn) are points in Balsley’s favor, not against it.
I only went back 5 years.
So one or two guys that were any better before/after they came to SD in 5 years out of how many?
Confirmation bias.
Give it up Tatiis the proof is in the Pudding he failed as often as he succeeded Good point cs
Failed as often as he succeeded?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is freaking hilarious bro! Balsley literally only has one true failure on him and no one has even mentioned him yet.
Tatis you need a day, or two, away. Maybe find a part-time job since you’ve been “retired”. Just anything to get your mind cleared. This entire thread has been a massive “L” for you, and it was self-inflicted.
No, this assessment is not from scoutseyes. Seriously, take a little break. You do know your baseball.
The only person this has been an L for is Preller and Tingler.
And for “HiresGun23” who said he was going to drop it TWICE then kept commenting. Seriously, who does that?
Most of those were burnouts. I’m sure he tried his best to work his magic, but most things in baseball don’t work out
Very impressive—a man or woman who does their homework.
What’s hilarious is he didn’t mention the one obvious one.
Oh and regarding James Shields. Literally everyone knows who ruined him and it wasn’t Balsley.
I’ll give you a hint, his initials are B.C.
LOL! You just posted part of a list that I was going to post!
But — I thought you were part of the “Balsley is the best pitching coach in the world” crowd?
What’s hilarious is I counted more Balsley success stories than Balsley failure stories in that list. And most of them were just failure stories in general. And he forgot the one pitcher who had an above average career overall before and after Balsley but struggled under Balsley.
Actually, that was @csspackler. It posted in the wrong position. Balsley was good. Not great.
Tatis NO EXCUSES I guess you’ll have to change your team since none of your predictions are coming around
Balsley was the very best
Yes, there is no excuse for not keeping Balsley as PC as long as he wanted. I expect to see some firings if it was indeed not his decision.
Preller is lost when it comes to knowing how to get coaches. Balsely was the only guy on the team who has developed anyone or brought a player up to a higher level. It’s not Balsley’s fault he couldn’t turn a burning trash heap into a non-burning trash heap.
You still are arguing need purely on opinion…
Look. At. The. Stats. You. Twit.
Show me proof that he is the beat pitching coach on the planet? Cuz your opinion is all you’ve produced. The burden of proof is on you to prove him the best. I say he’s not bad and will do well in El Paso, Amarillo, Lake Elsinore, etc…but we aren’t getting an unknown commodity in Rothschild. Is he the best, not saying his is. Does he, like Balsley before him, have his work cut out for him…absolutely. Btw, I told you there was a chance the new manager could choose a different pitching coach and you asked for proof. Well is this post enough for ya or shall we wait for the press conference to confirm it?
Stats of the pitchers who played under him vs. their stats under other pitching coaches. You can start with Brad Hand and Kirby Yates.
Was he replaced or not? Maybe I read this post wrong…
Wouldn’t be the first bad decision Preller has made.
Also been mentioned that it might have been Balsley’s choice.
Didn’t ask who’s choice it was. ..is he or isn’t he replaced? You called me a hater and to provide you proof. That Balsley would, could and now, has been replaced. So I ask again, is this proof enough?
Whose choice it was absolutely matters. I said until he dies or retires. Obviously no one lives forever. If he wants to spend more time with his son who will be playing baseball for SDSU next fall then would that not constitute retiring?
And you won’t be chirping when all the pitchers who were here in 2019 take majors steps back.
Taking steps back like you are from saying he wouldn’t be replaced. Damn…I hope not.
I said he’d be replaced when he dies or retires.
And what happened to “I’ll drop it…”
Or what if they take steps forward would you agree to stop blogging on this board
Now they are guaranteed to take steps backward. Large ones.
I can see you are one of those. I’ll drop it…
Did you ever get those pitcher stats before and after Balsley?
Didn’t expect him to end up in SD
You kept chirping…
Not how it works.
What’ll happen first, Show Me answering the simple question that Balsley was replaced or Matt Holliday finally touching home plate. My money is on Holliday…
I don’t have to answer anything you weird little underage troll. Obviously he was replaced.
The question at this point is who’s call was that? And if not Balsley’s himself, how long are Preller and Tingler for the job?
Still got my $$$ on Holliday. Is your last name Fowler by any chance?
No.
Again, did you ever get those pitching stats before and after Balsley? And what happened to “I’ll drop it…”
Provide a link, Tatis. Inquiring minds want to know. You can’t argue “because herpaderp” without providing links for all readers, ya twit
Provide a link for what?
The pitcher stats, before and after Bals. Are you special needs? Legitimate question
He asked for proof of Balsley being the best pitching coach on the planet. There’s his (and your) proof. And no I am not special needs. I retired at 33 with plenty of bank. While you can hardly pass the entrance examinations for kindergarten.
Not everyone can have a family inheritance early in life, Tatis.
@WereAllJustGuestsHere try again Jimmer
Wrong. Again. Provide proof.
You are the proof
My money is on Holliday touching home first, too
Holliday will touch home plate before the Padres get Stroman or Bauer in a trade that includes Wil Myers.
And you sir are the only proof I need that idiots still exist! Good day, Show Me Your Special Needs!
And this is coming from you, an ape that somehow has access to a computer?
Yes, I am an orangutan at the Zoo. Our wifi is great here! My pen mates are smarter than you, too.
You cant provide a link to your opinions because there isnt one. For the record, I’ve loved Balsley before he showed my sons how to hold the seams and taught them their release points. He is a great guy and I’m ecstatic that he is staying onboard to help our youngsters.
What opinions? The stats are the stats are the stats. They aren’t a matter of your opinion or mine. You can start with Brad Hand and Kirby Yates.
“For the record, I’ve loved Balsley before he showed my sons how to hold the seams and taught them their release points.”
Bull. You clearly aren’t old enough to have had kids and if you loved Balsley you wouldn’t be trying to argue with me in the first place.
I’m not arguing, I merely wanted to see said stats. I would never argue with a Special Needs person
Players have been named (Brad Hand, Kirby Yates, Heath Bell). You can check their stats on your site of choice.
Post a link to the stats and stop arguing with YOURSELF
It’s your boastful claim that Bals is the best on Earth… so provide the stats. You obviously already know them and you have time since you’re retired and all.
I’m not arguing with you. I’m scolding you. But you can’t tell the difference being the insolent child that you are. By the way here are Kirby Yates’ stats. Notice how they are night and day before and after he came to SD. Why? Balsley!
espn.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/32623/kirby-yates
That’s one of many. And good job teaching the split, Bals. What of the 140 bullpen guys with worse stats here?
My preschool teacher says you shouldn’t try to bully or scold me, just provide the stats for Balsley being the best stuff on Earth.
There are plenty more. I just dropped a link to the first guy that came to mind. Now let’s see if you are smart enough to use that same site to check the stats for the other pitchers mentioned.
I can’t think of one bullpen guy with worse stats here and sustained success elsewhere. Let alone 140.
Ah well, it would seem that YOU need to do your homework! Go back to school, you got plenty of time being retired. Everyone have a great day, I’m tired from finger painting all morning. Peace out!
Awww the poor wittle boy is sad because he can’t get anything right. It’s ok. Maybe someday things will get better for you.
Things are peachy keen here! Go have a cold Pacifico and chill out, Mr. Special Needs!
If I were special needs I don’t think I would have been able to retire comfortably at 33. And I thought you said you were peacing out?
Again, not everyone runs into an inheritance. Nobody cares you haven’t held a job since 33.
I didn’t run into any inheritance but sure Jimmer
Yates learned the splitter in the Yankees org. Nothing to do with Balsley.
Which explains why he sucked with the Yankees and then with the Angels after them.
I respect DBs decision! Soooooooo! Anytime he wants to return he can.
Terrible hire
Balsley was replaced as pitching coach…FACT.
Balsley didn’t retire or die but was reassigned and it was not his choice. He was quoted as saying he was disappointed he wasn’t kept as pitching coach…FACT
Two strikes, Junior! I am thinking I’ll refer to you from now on as, Show Me Your Proof…now I’ll drop it.
Obviously. And if it indeed wasn’t his choice, I expect to see whoever made that call follow him out the door.
Again. WHAT is your point?
2nd time you were proven wrong with fact. All you’ve offered is opinion. Every team hits and misses on a reclamation project over the course of time. That said, how do you feel about Merv Rettemund…should we give him a call to see if he’s available?
Also the second time you’ve said “I’ll drop it” then came back anyway. Who does that? Certainly not normal individuals which you are not part of that consortium.
What opinions have I supposedly offered up? I pointed to the stats of several pitchers both during their time working with Balsley and during their time working with other pitching coaches. The difference was night and day. This isn’t a matter of your opinion, mine or anyone else’s. The stats are the stats are the stats are the stats. And whether you like it or not, it’s going to stay that way unless you can come up with even 5 pitchers who were statistically worse under Balsley than they were for the rest of their career.
You told to show proof twice and I did. No one questioned or is questioning Balsley’s credentials. Guy was good and will be missed. You chose to deter to defend a point that no one questioned than to admit you were shown proof that backed my opinion. Actually 3 times I’ve proven a point and you actually did admit you were incorrect when I told you Don Cooper was a long tenured coach than Balsley…thought that was a preview of what was going to be the first of many spirited yet logical debates. I have a feeling I was wrong about that and admit it. On a separate note, Matt Holliday still hasn’t been seen around Coors Field so you’ve still got a chance to beat him…
I realized that I was wrong about Balsley being the longest tenured. And I admitted as much on the first thread. And you really are an idiot. I don’t have to admit anything as far as Balsley being replaced. OBVIOUSLY he was replaced. The freaking article SAYS THAT. And I am saying that if that was anyone’s call other than Balsley’s, the person who made that call needs to follow him out the door as they are not welcome here.
Now why did you keep replying after saying “I’ll drop it” TWICE?
Good job Pads, fire the only coach who has ever proven he can coach. AJ stuffs the roster with AAAA pitchers like Strahm, Erlin, Wieck (and several other forgettable names) and AJ blames Balsley? Real smart. It wasn’t Preller who created Yates or any preceding amazing reclamation project, it was Balsley. If the club would actually spend a little money on pitching and re-assess their entire approach in the minors maybe things might go better. The Pads have always had a terrible development record of moving players into the bigs. AJ forgot that part and has proven over and over he doesn’t know how to hire coaches (teachers and mentors). Just look at the guys we all know. And he let Doc go to LA. Well, okay….