The Orioles are trying to hammer out a deal involving right-hander Dylan Bundy, according to MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand (via Twitter). Whether or not talks are focused with a single team isn’t evident.
It’s a bit difficult to assess just how likely a swap truly is. Feinsand offers the obscure observation that “no deal is imminent, but one appears to be getting close.” It seems at minimum that the O’s are working hard to move the former top draft pick.
Bundy projects to earn $5.7MM in arbitration with one more season of control still to go. That could be a bargain if he can clean some things up. But there’s obviously work to do if Bundy is to reach his ceiling.
On the positive side, Bundy has shown an ability to generate ~12% swinging strikes and about a strikeout per inning. He has averaged about thirty starts per season for three years running. And he’s still just 27 years of age.
The results, though, haven’t been there. Bundy posted a 5.45 ERA in 2018 and a 4.79 mark in the just-completed campaign. He has allowed gobs of long balls and doesn’t carry near the velocity that was once expected — a product, perhaps, of the run of arm troubles that marred his early career.
It’s possible to imagine any number of teams having some level of interest in Bundy. Contenders willing to take a bit of a risk on one rotation spot could have interest, as might rebuilding organizations seeking a combination of reliable innings and upside.
acarneglia
Ill take him with the Yankees in hopes we can figure him out
MoRivera 1999
Win now teams can’t take that big of a gamble. They need a #1 not another #4 or #5 like Happ. Also, I don’t think Bundy is a fit with the porch in Right.
Mrivers
No, Montgomery can do as well.
brooke9805
Any trade we make , dont expect to know the names the players. MLB young prospects. There won’t be any no names this is not for 2020. And Bundy still considered a Fly ball picture look for it to be a team in a big Park.
thorshair
Mets better be involved
sampsonite168
Brodie: we’ll give you Kelenic and Dunn for Bundy
Orioles: I’d love to but you already traded them
Brodie: oh…………how about Cano and Diaz for Bundy
Orioles: …………………………………….
thorshair
Lmao sounds about right
Eatdust666
LOL
david klein
No
MetsFanaticDanny
I’ve heard that the Mets were interested in Bundy the past few days. Wouldn’t be surprised if they are involved but not sure if they ultimately get him.
MrMet33
I mean, Bundt versus Pineda, etc. on the market? I’d take a shot. May be a reliever too.
ASapsFables
Possibly a good candidate to pitch for the Giants and at Oracle Park. Any NL West team might be a solid landing spot for Bundy outside of the Rockies in Coors Field.
mstrchef13
Be glad to trade you Bundy for Guillorme and Kevin Smith.
Mr.Ward14
This is a total Eppler move.. god help the Angels
txtgab
I dont know about that. I’ve watched a lot of both teams and I think a league average pitcher who can throw 150+ innings a year goes a long way in Anaheim. Especially with their defense and that park, Bundy can be a 12-12 4.25 ERA starter, much better than Cahill and Harvey.
Willy Mays
I guess he “can” be but in the last 2 years he wasn’t. A 5.45 era and a 4.79 era with whips at 1.41 and 1.36. Bundy has just been bad recently, btw who are you referring to when you said a league average pitcher?
txtgab
2016: 110 IP, 107 ERA+
2017: 170 IP, 102 ERA+
2018: 172 IP, 78 ERA+
2019: 162 IP, 99 ERA+
———————-
Looks fairly league average to me, 3 out of 4, particularly with bad defense over the last 3 years.
Angels with 25+ starts last few years and above 99 ERA+:
2019:0
2018: Heany (101 ERA+), Barria (123 ERA+)
2017: 0
2016: Shoemaker (103 ERA+)
but ok “he cant/couldn’t have helped”
niched
His point is that Bundy has spent his whole career in a home run park in Baltimore where his fly balls equal too many home runs. Away from a hitter’s park his fly balls will equal more outs.
5toolMVP
More like a DiPoto move.
Indiansjoe
And now the Astros turn him into the next cole
MoRivera 1999
BWAHAHAHA!
Eatdust666
Not a chance and no, Zack Wheeler would not be their next Gerrit Cole, either, despite what some people say. I mean, Wheeler is very talented and has a good arm, but not even close to Cole.
boo rad
Astros would pickup Bundy before spending the money on Wheeler.
The Ghost of Bobby Bonilla
Hey Dylan, rub some of this “stuff” onto your hands before you pitch. Also, use the razorblade hidden in your glove to cut the strings on the ball.
Then look behind the catcher for signals in Morse Code. If one woman lifts up her shirt, it means throw a fastball, if they both flash the crowd, that means offspeed in the dirt.
Finally, use this red laser pointer and aim it into the batter’s eyes. Welcome to the Astros!
jjd002
Important thing is you tried to be funny. Just didn’t work out for you.
meinhardt1992 2
The Cubs make sense with losing Ham er la this year and possibly a trio of pitchers next year (Q,Chatwood, Lester)
meinhardt1992 2
Hsmels sorry for the typo
trout27
One more try?
DockEllisDee
Hormel? Hummus? Hoosegow?….Ham et al?
ASapsFables
The Cubs make sense if they only pitch Bundy on days the wind is blowing in at Wrigley Field, that or when they have have a hard hat promotion for the bleacher fans.
DarkSide830
they lost The Hammer? didnt know Charles Martel could pitch.
jbigz12
Good luck to whoever gets Dylan. He doesn’t have the big fastball anymore but it is a high spin fastball. He gets plenty of swings and misses on it. Just has a penchant for giving up the long ball. Hope we get something interesting back.
Baseball 1600
So you’re telling me he’s built for Oracle Park
jbigz12
He does sound like a good fit for Oracle. Might want to skip all his starts when they go to Colorado though.
dimitrios in la
Not sure where you got that it’s a high spin fastball (perhaps you have some data I don’t); it’s still a weakness for him as it runs very flat actually.
I think he can become a very good pitcher still. Will need the right people around him developing his arsenal most effectively as the same level of raw talent as in his early years is no longer there.
AssumesFactNotInEvidence
Spin rate rating here
baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/dylan-bundy-6…
Gomez Toth
In describing “no deal is imminent, but one appears to be getting close.” as obscure, you are being overly kind to Mr. Feinsand. How can such poor writing be tolerated by his employer?.
clepto
Imminent = right now, as in minutes, seconds.
“getting close” = making progress, over the major hurdles, not quite imminent.
He is a professional writer. You are not. He has limitations on free time, you apparently do not.
ronfromcal
Well played.
Gomez Toth
Your response might not make sense, but it is confused.
clepto
idiotic response from an idiot.
Buddy “Bud” Hull
Come on Mariners. I’d be thrilled with him or Jon Gray coming to Seattle.
trent_booty
If I’m the Mariners, I’m in on this. Get him and hope he can be a solid #2 or #3 starter or else the Astros will get him and make him Cole 2.0.
jbigz12
The Orioles have a good deal of the old Astros FO in their FO. I would imagine Houston is not the team who goes for him. I would imagine their mindsets are similar when it comes to player dev/analytics. The O’s didn’t seem to get much more out of him last season than in seasons past. Maybe I’m wrong and Houston does do it but I’d take the field.
ASapsFables
Bundy could be a nice fit with the Mariners, A’s or Angels in the AL West. The Astros with their HR haven of Minute Maid Park, not so much.
Eatdust666
Which is also why the Rangers with their HR haven of what is to be Globe Life Field wouldn’t be a good fit for Bundy, either.
clayc
Any chance this involves the Braves? A trade involving Bundy and Mancini? Followed by locking up a Moose and shedding some Waters for a top tier pitcher?
txtgab
Unless you plan on trading away Freeman, you don’t want Mancini. He is terrible in the outfield. Almost cuts out all his offensive surplus
clayc
Is it so bad that Ron Washington couldn’t help?
mrnatewalter
That’s a bit exaggerative. Even with his defensive deficiencies, he was still worth 3.6 fWAR.
jbigz12
He’s a very bad outfielder. He was only a PT OF last year. I’d agree that you don’t want him in your OF. He belongs at 1B. Could he fake it in the outfield on a part time basis? Sure, but he’s Bad. He’s a hard worker but he’s slow and has a weak arm.
txtgab
About 50% of his innings came at 1B or DH. I try not to put too much weight into last year, but if you look at his career as a whole it is definitely the case.
Ryan The Riot Theriot
Hoping the Cubs go after him, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Mariners were the team to land him either. Being in a less HR prone park could do him a lot of good.
CuddyFox
Cardinals could make a trade if Mancini is coming to the Cardinals too. The Cardinals have a surplus of outfielders that can to back, like O’Neill, Garcia and Williams that The Orioles can have, on top of Sosa, Schrock and Urias as infield options.
Thomas Bliss
I like Max Schrock.
mrperkins
As a Cards fan Bundy doesn’t excite me much. I’d rather take another shot with Wacha after he got his velocity up a good 3-5 mph the second half of last year and located a lot better. Mancini does make it interesting. If he is included you have to include Martinez from Cards. I’ve just about given up on Reyes. Reyes, Martinez, O’Neal, and either Capel, Sosa, Williams, Garcia (of) for Bundy+Mancini?
niched
O’s need infielders but not really outfielders
SilvioDante
Bundy to the Cubs for Addison Russell and Tyler Chatwood. Make it happen, Theo!
agentx
That would be a lot of negative value in Russell and Chatwood going to BAL in exchange for a pitcher who may still throw 150+ serviceable innings next year.
Chatwood and a decent prospect for Bundy *might* work. Maybe.
BeeVeeTee
Please explain to us why in the hell the Orioles would want to pick up Chatwood’s contract?
agentx
Rebuilding teams have paid the $7.3 million difference Chatwood’s salary would represent for a solid prospect or two before.
CHI could even throw in some cash, though I don’t know how motivated the Cubs FO would be to do that. Thus, my “Maybe.”
As for Chatwood, he could help absorb early-season starts and innings that might otherwise damage still-developing arms that BAL might prefer to bring up later in the year or in 2021.
jbigz12
I have a feeling with the 98 million dollar judgment granted to the Nationals that the Orioles won’t be inclined to add Chatwoods salary. Not a bad thought I just don’t see it happening. It certainly wouldn’t be Addison Russell and chatwood though even if we were inclined to take the salary.
agentx
You make a good point about that $98MM judgment and the likelihood of BAL taking on any additional salaries for next season in the manner discussed.
Thanks, jbigz12!!
BeeVeeTee
The Orioles would be better off holding onto Bundy rather than moving him to the Cubs for Chatwood and Russell. Just because the Cubs’ fans don’t like Chatwood and Russell doesn’t mean they are movable pieces for Bundy
Joospife
maybe Chatwood and Chase Strumpf, but for this to work the Cubs must eat 2 or 3 million of the Chatwood contract
Thomas Bliss
Dylan Bundy could look good in a White Sox uniform.
SouthsideSlugger
Coop can fix him.
ASapsFables
Not unless Don Cooper can find the magic wand he once had and get Dylan Bundy to induce more grounders and less taters.
I can think of better trade candidates than Bundy but would prefer the White Sox invest in a free agent TOR like Stephen Strasburg, Zack Wheeler or Dallas Keuchel. That said, the White Sox may need to acquire their core RF in a trade this offseason. Their target should focus on a solid lefty bat with some defensive acumen. The slugging right-handed bat of Oriole Trey Mancini would play nicely in the heart of most any team’s lineup but his glove would be a disaster in RF, especially on the Southside of Chicago with defensively challenged Eloy Jimenez already manning LF.
BeeVeeTee
The White Sox wanted Bundy after the 2012 season. It was a package of Sale for Bundy and Machado but the Orioles declined this offer. Bundy had Tommy John surgery in 2013.
Thomas Bliss
That could work but it would probably take a lot to make that move happen.
AssumesFactNotInEvidence
@Aaron the stat free poster…
Did you know that Bundy’s GB/FB ratio was 1.10 in 2019? I don’t think you knew that…
Domingo111
Bundy is interesting as he is only 27 and has upside in a better player development system than Baltimore but after back to back 5 (or close to) era seasons the price is going to be low. Teams are not going to pay for upside and he will only yield some marginal prospects and not top100 guys. Still the Os should try to trade him, they are at least 4 years away from competing and need to get as many prospects as possible. Their astros front office is pretty smart so fans should trust the tank:).
dcrising
Feel like he’d benefit in a move to the bullpen
trace
“still just 27” lol
findingnimmo
I would do dom smith for Bundy. Could work for both sides.
spinach
Agreed, but O’s could rightly demand a bit more.
I see Padres getting Bundy.
king beas
Rather keep smith. Walker Lockett can pitch mediocre at the mlb level no need to trade for bundy
Phiilies2020
My breakout pitcher of the year prediction
mrnatewalter
He’s up there, but for me, when healthy, my breakout pitcher is Luke Weaver. I hope he can stay healthy in 2020.
walls17
Hearing the Twins trying to land Bundy and Givens in the same deal.
bravesfan
Oh no. Smells like the Braves are the other team…. watch out! Stay away Braves! Rather see what our young guys can do!
mcmillankmm
I could see the Twins being in the mix since they just lost Gibson to the Rangers. They need 3 more starters to go with Berrios and Odorizzi
bobtillman
Houston is definitely in play here. Bundy has all kinds of problems, but he’s a terror with a trash can lid in his hands.
Nah, the Angels. They have enough mid-tier prospects to get it done, and while Bundy doesn’t fill their need for a top shelf guy, he’s a reasonable risk for the back of the rotation.
DTD_ATL
He’s a fit for most any team but I see the Astros, White Sox, Padres, Twins, Braves, and Angels as legit possibilities
coldbeer
Seems like a waste of time to write this and not offer an educated guess about what the O’s might expect in return. Especially considering they are one of the “…rebuilding organizations seeking a combination of reliable innings and upside.” They’re pitching is weak and has nowhere near enough guys to even just eat innings. And, their top pitching prospects are years away.
Moneyballer
Twins should buy low on bundy and give him a shot. Reminds me of Phil Hughes and they got his best season out of him after they took a shot on him. 5.7 mil is cheap for a back end starter. Gotta limit the longball and he could be a nice value play. Take the cost savings then and invest in a sure thing. Now you have something!
msqboxer
Well it won’t be to any AL East teams…..I see someone like the Angels would make sense given lack of SP and payroll flexibility.
Sigdaj
Change of scenery: Bundy to Philly for Nick Pivetta & Maikel Franco
bkwalker510
lots of teams should be willing to take a flyer on this guy.. he could fit on any west coast team in one of those pitchers parks.
theoepsteinhof
C’mon Cubs! Go get Bundy! You know how the Orioles force their pitchers to conform to team mechanics…just like Arietta. Get Bundy, turn him loose with his natural style & watch him go!
2021 Cy Young winner!
niched
More like somewhere between Jake Arrieta and Brian Matusz. Maybe exactly down the middle – wherever that is
ASapsFables
Of course, that was when the Cubs employed Chris Bosio as their pitching coach who may have trouble landing another gig after his infamous “spider monkey” quote with the Tigers in 2018. It was Bosio who brought out the best in Jake Arrieta and helped with the development of Pedro Strop from that landmark 2013 July trade with the Orioles for journeyman SP Scott Feldman and backup C Steve Clevenger.
Since Bosio became one the first coaching casualties from Joe ‘Don’t Blame Me’ Maddon, the Cubs have cycled through two others, along with 3 hitting instructors. Perhaps analytically minded pitching coach Tommy Hottovy could help transform Bundy with some help from former catcher and new manager David Ross.
BeeVeeTee
Plasma shots to blood doping brought out the best of Arrieta. The drug testing methods changed in the recent CBA and Arrieta hasn’t been the same.
Mjm117
Would a great pick up for the fish. Brinson for Bundy, as the centerpieces, would be a good starting point.
DockEllisDee
Dick Williams: “Does he have two arms? Two legs? ..A head? Yes? The Reds are interested!!”
sdctitans
Mariners fan, think we could try and figure him out too. Made $2.8M last year, probably a $3.7M guy this year. I’d do that for sure
frustratedpittsburghpiratesfan
Pirates will trade Marte for him.
angt222
Smart. He’s finally shown he can be healthy enough to pitch. Move him for the best deal.
sufferforsnakes
Seattle
statefarm44
Cubs trade Addison Russell for Bundy
angt222
I could see that happening.
Razzar
With poor development in Orioles organization he will be traded and be successful.
angt222
Mets should inquire.