The Mets have officially named Carlos Beltran their next manager. He’ll reportedly earn approximately $3MM over the guaranteed three-year term, with a club option to follow.
If indeed a deal is ticked and tied, it’ll launch a fascinating new chapter in Mets history. Beltran, a recently retired former Mets star who left the organization on less-than-pleasant terms, will pair up with ever-interesting sophomore GM Brodie Van Wagenen as the club does battle in a tough NL East.
Beltran, 42, had previously interviewed for the Yankees’ managerial opening that went to Aaron Boone. While he missed on that gig, Beltran joined the Bronx-based organization’s front office as a special advisor. That experience ended up functioning as a transition time for Beltran, who’ll now get back in uniform.
When last he donned Mets duds, Beltran was still a star-level performer. Though there were indications of sore feelings when he departed via trade in the middle of the 2011 season, things worked out well enough for the Queens denizens. Beltran hit well enough over the first half of that year — his final of a seven-season contract — to return a highly valuable player in the form of Zack Wheeler. While we likely won’t get the interesting optic of Beltran removing Wheeler from games — the righty is expected to receive a qualifying offer but decline it in favor of the open market — that swap still makes for an interesting reference point.
Beltran shouldn’t have any problems commanding respect in the clubhouse and with the media. He’s a rightly revered figure in the game and will likely check into Cooperstown during his time as the Mets skipper — so long as his tenure at the helm of the dugout is longer than that of his predecessor. Mickey Callaway came from quite a different place when he entered the gig, but did finish with a flourish over the final two-thirds or so of the 2019 campaign. That wasn’t enough to save his job.
The expectations will be lofty for Beltran’s debut campaign, at least within the organization. It’s postseason or bust for Van Wagenen and co., particularly after doubling down on the existing core slate of players at the 2019 trade deadline. It is difficult to fully assess the odds of the club cracking the postseason for the first time since 2016, given that we don’t yet know just what the roster will look like when camp breaks early next year. As we explored recently, the organization faces some obvious obstacles to improving the on-field product it will entrust to Beltran.
Sid Rosenberg of TalkRadio 77 WABC had the first word on Twitter. Anthony DiComo of MLB.com independently reported the news (via Twitter). Marly Rivera of ESPN (via Twitter) reported the deal structure, with Bob Nightengale of USA Today (Twitter link) covering the salary.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
batty
Well this should be interesting.
deweybelongsinthehall
Hope I’m wrong but this move just seems stupid. Ego and money still drive the Mutts. If you weren’t going to hire a manager with big league experience. Mickey deserved a third year. Granted if he was fired in June, there wouldn’t have been a backlash, but the team played hard and it showed in the second half.
jmag1976
I completely agree^^
rct
On what planet did Mickey deserve a third year? Poor decision making, poor use of the bullpen, antagonistic relationship with the media, poor relationships with his players.
VonPurpleHayes
The planet where the Mets almost had a miraculous wildcard birth. Few teams played better than the Mets after the All.Star break, and one of the teams that did won the World Series.
The Mets bullpen was absolutely horrendous, and it’s easy to blame the manager when every single option he has is bad.
I don’t think Mickey is a great manager, but I don’t think he should have gotten fired based off the 2019 season. In fact, had the Mets squeaked into the playoffs, Mickey would have been a manger-of-the-year candidate. Baseball is funny that way.
nymetsking
Problem is that on that planet, his poor decision making cost them several games. One of those games was a devastating loss against that other team, giving them a “we can win ANY game”/”team of destiny” vibe and propelled them on that run, instead of reinforcing that they were playing AGAINST that type of team. The Nats were clearly showing cracks, making boneheaded plays like forgetting how many outs there were on defense, costing them several runs. Allowing them to win that game changed everything for both teams.
deweybelongsinthehall
Perfect analysis VPH.
deweybelongsinthehall
Every manager has second guess games everyone would like to forget. The point I was tryin to make was, the time to make a move was before the year or in the first half of 2019. Brodie didn’t hire him so it would have been understandable especially if he was being replaced with someone who commands respect as a manager. If Beltran was younger and coming in again as that missing bat, everyone would be cheering how ownership stepped up. This role for Beltran? Good luck.
StandUpGuy
Wow. I didn’t know they got Wheeler in exchange for half a season of Beltran. He shouldn’t be sore about that. That’s a heck of a deal for the Mets. They have to make that trade every time.
throwinched10
With David Wright as the bench coach…?
phillies012tg
Jose Reyes first base coach, Carlos Delgado hitting coach etc..
lanceparrishporvida
That mole on the side of his head coming back as clubhouse attendant.
throwinched10
All I pictured was the Austin Powers “nice to mole you” scene.
chippahawk
He got that removed as a Yankee lol
cleonswoboda
I always thought that Delgado, who was always taking notes in his notebooks in the dugout, would make a good manager. the rest of the coaching staff will be interesting picks also.
jim stem
Except the Delgado refused to acknowledge the National Anthem. Yeah, that’ll get your team’s respect.
cleonswoboda
it was during the playing of “God Bless America” during the 7th inning stretch. he made his reasons known about protesting the war in Iraq,which was based on a false pretense of imaginary WMD’s and also the bombing of Vieques in Puerto Rico.
Kayrall
Reyes will be the mental strengths coach.
fits65
We Kranepool was already hired as 1B coach.
luclusciano
Might as well add in Bonilla as a coach in the org. Getting paid anyway.
lowtalker1
Dumb move
But 2nd rate team finishing in 4th place in 2020
MrMet33
He was runner up to Boone for NYY – why is it a dumb move? What do you know that baseball experts do not?
bravesiowafan
Players transitioning to managers with zero experience has a mixed track record doesn’t matter the player
reflect
As opposed to hiring an experienced manager which works out well 100% of the time?
rct
Hiring literally any manager from any category would give you ‘mixed’ results.
bklynny67
Players with previous managerial experience has a mixed track record doesn’t matter the player.
So what’s your point?
thatdude07
*Gape Kapler slams keyboard reading this comment*
Melchez
Manager with no experience with a team with very little talent is not a good recipe.
MoRivera 1999
I would guess Girardi and Maddon have higher percentage chance of high success than a player without managerial experience.
andremets
Well then, Good thing the Mets finished ‘19 with 86 wins a couple of games behind the Nats with a Cy young winner and the reigning NL ROY, plus McNeil.
holecamels35
I sure hope you aren’t suggesting the Mets have very little talent because they have a ton. And the Phillies have a good bit as well. They should have each performed much better.
Melchez
I didn’t “suggest” the Mets have very little talent, I said it. This isn’t the NBA where 3 top players can carry a team, this is the MLB where you need some great position players and a solid pitching staff. Mets have two solid starters and a very questionable pen. They have a couple solid hitters in Alonso and Conforto and maybe Davis. McNiel is good. But huge holes all over the field… Mets are about an average team. Any injuries, which everyone knows every team gets and the Mets drop drastically.
Look at the World Series the past two years… can the Mets compete against any of those lineups? Lineups where you have a couple superstars and a couple great players and then very good players around them.
Now you add a GM that has shown he makes dumb moves and a manager with zero experience.
Let’s talk next year at this time and see who is right.
Melchez
You said “experts” when referring to the Mets. LOL
This is a clown move. Only done to get publicity. They better hire a bench coach with some experience.
deweybelongsinthehall
Brodie apparently needs a bench coach. Maybe after the free agency signings end, Boras will want a new career…
SaberSmuckers
Lol, you said “no talent” about a team with the probable Cy Young winner, Rookie of the Year (who happened to set the record for HR’s for a rookie), O’Neil, who finished 7th in OBP, and Wheeler, who stands get paid nicely for his “no talent”.
Facts matter.
kahnkobra
exactly
njbirdsfan
Uh huh.
And I remember when the Phillies went out, spent stupid money, and finished 4th.
But the Mets are the joke, got it,.
lettersandnumbersonly
it’s OK, don’t fight about it…. there’s enough room for 2 jokes 😀
thatdude07
The Phillies are still a joke, lets not get that twisted. But there’s plenty of room for the Mets to also be included.
kahnkobra
exactly
VonPurpleHayes
Outsids of the Marlins, the division is really good.
Call the Mets and/or Phillies a joke if you want, but I can see either winning the division. Mets need a bullpen. Phillies need starting pitching (and to not have 1000 injuries). I would not bet against the Braves or Nats, but like I said, I wouldn’t be shocked if Mets or Phils take it. NL East is tough.
CubsRebsSaints
Better than Perez
jleve618
That’s underperforming by two rates!
HalosHeavenJJ
Wow. Good for him. I hope it works. I like seeing new people get a shot.
oleosmirf
Odd decision. This is a man with zero managerial experience in probably the most difficult place in baseball to manage given the organizational chaos and the media market..
Granted, he’s about as respected a guy as there is in MLB and Lindor will be a free agent sooner rather than later, but we just saw A.J. Hinch manage his team out of a Game 7. What does Beltran know about (1) what lineup to use on a daily basis, (2) how to manage a bullpen and (3) understanding run-expectancy and how to use that when managing.
The Mets passed on Chaim Bloom for a less qualified Brody Van Wagenen. I’m afraid they’ve done the same with Beltran.
DL0806
That’s the trend in baseball now… Kapler, cash, Beltran, Ross, boone…
KCChiefs3485
As a former catcher, David Ross should be fine. The catcher-turned-manager seems to always work out for an extended period of time.
Could be wrong but look at the history of managers, tons of catchers and a some have found moderate success.
Vandals Took The Handles
Just look at Mike Matheny….
GothamGuy
I’d rather the Mets have hired Matheny over Beltran !
Kayrall
Gross
Melchez
And Ausmus
kahnkobra
yeah right
didi gregorious nose
Also Cora and martinez
chippahawk
Smoltz should be next to jump in feet first, dude is a plethora of baseball knowledge. He’s fun to listen to on TV and is always spot on. Move over snit..
steelerbravenation
Smoltz doesn’t want to manage
nymetsking
He prefers being Max Muncy’s analyst.
luclusciano
Ha. This ^^ truth
dynamite drop in monty
Wait is this serious? Smoltz’s commentary is delivered with the enthusiasm of the Dunkin’ Donuts cashier reading my order back to me to verify. He also clearly seethes with anger over players showing exuberance or emotion. He sucks.
MrMet33
Spent 6.5 years with Mets and another couple with Yankees – so NY market is not a brave new world to him. He’s played for some of the best managers in baseball with a first hand look at how the current league operates.
LongTimeFan1
@John Anderson,
Well said.
didi gregorious nose
The final 2 seasons in houston he wasnt a regular he was always next to Hinch perhaps learning.
dobsonel
Didn’t Cora say that he thought the Yanks were so much better this year because they hired Beltran as an advisor? I think this is an excellent hire for the Mets.
jim stem
Which means he knows what about managing a bullpen, his coaching staff and his roster?
keysox
Bad move – better be one year with an option
batty
The standard is 3 years. Doubtful Beltran, or anyone worth their salt would do a 1 & 1 contract.
heater
Beltran has been around awhile. He’s said in the past while still a player that he tried to soak up as much info as he could cuz he had a desire to manage on day. Now that doesn’t mean I’m rating his skills already but he has been a student of the game so he has some knowledge of how to run a team. Hopefully he can surround himself with good coaches to help him along.
bklynny67
if everyone hired managers based on your post of needing managerial experience there would literally be no managers in baseball because everyone is a rookie manager at some point. Experienced managers have mixed results just as much as new managers.
Koamalu
In the past nearly all managers had minor league managing experience before getting a job in the majors or they had been a bench coach in the majors. That qualifies as experience.
Beltran is a great guy, one of the best men I have had the privilege of working with in baseball, but he has exactly zero experience managing any team at any level.
rct
Chaim Bloom has not yet accomplished anything while at the helm of a baseball team. Further, the Giants, Twins, Brewers, and Phillies all passed on Bloom, too. Way too early to place Bloom above BVW.
andremets
And BVW’s Mets more game than Sox in ‘19, 86 to 84.
kahnkobra
what does Lindor’s free agent status have to do with anything? We just saw Hinch manage his way out of a championship and What experience did Cora have when he won it all?
heater
Good for Carlos
sufferforsnakes
Hahahaha!!…….. Hahahaha!!……..Hahahaha!!
Vandals Took The Handles
Nah – he’ll work out well.
The Mets manager’s job is to keep the players focused, in line, in good spirits and a good frame of mind, and to conduct pressers after the game.. Beltran should be quite good at that.
As for those incidental, silly things like making out that days lineup, coming up with the gameplan as to who to bring in in relief and in what inning depending on score, how many pitches each pitcher will be allowed to throw that day, what players should be pinch hit for and when, who should be substituted on defense, who should pinch run, etc. – that stuff will all be handled before the game by the FO – particularly the GM – and the analytic staff. Carlos will get the strategy loaded onto his IPad – easy to understand. Intuitive. Electronic training wheels. But hey, Beltran will have a voice in making the gameplan…..maybe not a large voice…..but a voice.
Koamalu
Most of that stuff can’t be handled by the FO since they can’t be in communication with the dugout. They can try to prepare the manager prior to the game, but in game decisions are 100% the manager. So is filling out the lineup card.
Vandals Took The Handles
Then tell us how deGrom was pulled from a game last year by Callaway via instructions.
EasternLeagueVeteran
And maybe the automated strike zone with ear bud connection to the HP umpire will take the decisions away from everybody. Let’s play video baseball….
Chad Pifer
Honestly, I was expecting the Mets to go with a manager with a proven track record as a major league manager, and time will tell whether or not he will be successful. As a player and role model for the game, he is one of the more respected in the game. I sincerely hope he is successful, but the baseball world will all have their eyes on him and will most certainly critique every move that he makes and doesn’t make during games. He will either turn out like Boone and Cora(both with no major league experience as managers) and be successful or he won’t. Question is, I wonder how long they will give him to turn the Mets around?
G Vanlue
They missed the playoffs by 3 games last year, how much of a turnaround do they need?
Koamalu
11 GB of the Braveds and 7 GB of the Nationals. You cannot count on no other teams getting better either. The Cubs, Brewers, Rockies, and Padres can all field better teams with minor tweaks. The Phillies will go hard after pitching in the offseason, their biggest weakness in 2019, so chances are the Mets are a 4th place team in the NL East 2020.
The Mets also have no money to go after any players in FA and a farm system bereft of trade chips. What you see now is what you will get next season.
andremets
Ridiculous. So Phillies will make moves but the Mets won’t? Mets already have 4 legit starters even without Wheeler. And the Phillies system is not exactly churning out studs. In fact, the Mets just produced the Reigning ROY.
rct
‘The Mets also have no money to go after any players in FA’
The Mets have plenty of money to go after whoever they want. Whether or not the Wilpons will spend it is another issue.
Koamalu
Mets have to cut payroll, not increase it. The Phillies have $45 million to spend before they have to worry about the CBT.
The Mets have nothing beyond what you see on the MLB roster. The Phillies have a stacked lineup, solid prospects coming soon like Bohm and Howard, but had a black hole at the back of their rotation.
Add Cole to that rotation and its as good as the Mets.
Koamalu
They have already said that the payroll will be around $160 million. They are at closer to $175 right now even with Lagares and Panik gone.
steelerbravenation
When did they say $160 million ????
phenomenalajs
I’m not sure what you mean by turnaround. Yes, they need to have more consistency, but I think going from 40-51 right after the ASB to a final record of 86-76 is a pretty impressive turnaround. The only better turnaround is the Nats’ one from 19-31 to winning it all.
I wonder if Beltran will keep Phil Regan around. He was a major part of the Mets’ turnaround.
Francys01
Interesting. Looking forward next season to see Carlos Beltran as a manager. As a player he was a great. A former St Louis Cardinals, good luck.
metsmerized
Metsmerized had it first and an hour before DiComo. Has DiComo ever sourced anything before?
MarlinsFanBase
DiComo is a hack who only got his opportunity because he’s connected to the Wilpon kids.
Marty Noble was a real journalist.
letsplaytwo
Good for Beltran – I hope he does well. If the Mets struggle, in two years we may see AJ Hinch hired by his good friend Brody Van Wagenen. If the Astros don’t win the World Series in the next two years, I believe they’ll move on from Hinch, just like the Cubbies did with Maddon.
LongTimeFan1
I love this decision. It started with Beltran being adamant he wants to return to the Mets and manage for no one else.
Future Hall of Famer believes in the Mets, Mets believe in him.
Undoubtedly the players do or he wouldn’t have gotten the job.
nyy42
Great Move, Probably end up being the best move the Mets have made in 50yrs
MarlinsFanBase
What’s the over/under that all the fans like you that will say this now will be changing your tune later?
nyy42
I am a Yankees fan but strongly believe he will be the answer to getting the most out of this group which pushed to their potential could definitely be a top contender. May break your heart in the end but definitely in it for the long haul.
thatdude07
I’d say more of an interesting move than a great move since hes never managed, but Carlos seems like a very intelligent baseball man.
Still thought they struck out when Joe decided to go to Philly.
PeeWeeGaskins
Bold move, Cotton.
thatdude07
Wow, thought the Mets were going to for sure hire Josh Hamilton
schellis 2
Honestly for most managers what matters is the team they are given. Alex Cora and Boone both have teams loaded with talent….wow they’re great managers. Price with the Reds had a glorified AAAA team horrible horrible manager.
I think Beltran will likely go the way of Torre with the Mets, will be so so, but strong enough that he’ll be able to land a managers job with another team that will be great.
Rarely are players with hall of fame careers also great in their second act in the majors.
carlos15
Beltran’s awesome, good for him, I think he’ll do well.
TradeAcuna
How many months before people start blaming Beltran for their failures?
MarlinsFanBase
Exactly!
df08988
How about Bobby Bonilla as hitting coach? Mets are still paying him anyway.
EasternLeagueVeteran
Maybe because he doesn’t want to work not doesnt have to work to collect his $$$ !!!
MarlinsFanBase
What’s the over/under of when the same Mets fans that are praising this move and pretty much guaranteeing Beltran (with no experience) will do well, will call for his head?
After all, the same things were said upon the hiring of Callaway, Collins, Manuel, Randolph, etc. etc. etc. before them…
MoRivera 1999
I read one of the interviews of Beltran on the topic of the Mets managerial job a couple of weeks ago. He talked about his clubhouse relationship skills and nothing about baseball, getting better performance out of players, baseball strategy, analytics, etc. It will be interesting to see…
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Doesn’t strike me as a manger type but I like the investment. From what I hear, he’s a pretty smart guy. Might be the next Cora.
michael102160
Awful, awful hire…Beltran seemed never happy as a Met and seemed like he always wanted out. He’s never handled a pitching staff which the team was built on. Experience I thought was important. If Girardi of Showalter wasn’t hired, I would have rather kept Callaway.
njmatt82
Totally agree. I would of hired Showalter and maybe had Beltran as bench coach to help learn the ropes. Tough place for a rookie manager to win in NY with no experience,
SaberSmuckers
Yep, there are absolutely no recent examples of a rookie manager in NY being successful. None at all. Definitely none that have won 100 games in consecutive seasons.
lapmando
Dumb
angt222
This is ironic. Mets traded Beltran to acquire Wheeler. And now it seems likely Wheeler will be leaving the organization (Free Agency) while Beltran will be re-entering the organization as the new manager.. hopefully this new Mets chapter for Beltran ends well and repairs his relationship with the organization. I would like to see him wearing a Mets cap in Cooperstown with his #15 hanging up at Citi Field.
PSUMetsFan
So when I heard this, I couldn’t help but wonder what will happen in January and July of 2023. In January, Carlos will be on his first ballot as a Hall of Famer, which he very will could win election on, and in July he will be inducted as a player. By 2023, maybe the fans will be calling for his head, and it’d certainly make for an awkward induction process as a Met into the Hall of Fame. On the other hand, maybe the Mets are doing well, in which case it would be a funny and rare thing to see their manager take a leave of absence to go to Cooperstown (or maybe even sit out his own induction to manage the season!)
Across baseball history, only two times has a guy inducted into the Hall of Fame as a player gone on to win a World Series as a manager (excluding player/managers). Those guys were Bob Lemon (taking over for a fired Billy Martin mid way through 1978 for the Yankees) and Red Schoendienst, who won it as a player for the Cardinals in 1946 and then again as their manager in 1967. Us Mets fans were joking that we wanted to find Connie Mack or John McGraw reincarnated, but maybe we just need to reincarnate Red Schoendienst!
MarlinsFanBase
You think that Mets fans will wait for 2023 to call for Beltran’s head? I’d take the bet that it happens a whole lot sooner….like July 2020.
PSUMetsFan
Then it’ll be even more awkward when he gets his call to the Hall lol honestly if he has a messy relationship with them as a manager, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did what Mike Mussina did and just go in with a blank cap.
Robertowannabe
Should have hired Billy Heywood……
met man
Would have to compensate the Twins for his services
Robertowannabe
Lol! Someone actually noticed!
JayRyder
Mets 85 Wins. Over/Under ?
Robertowannabe
Under…..
MarlinsFanBase
Under
The real bet is over/under July as the month that Mets fans start calling for Beltran’s head. I take under on that too.
Robertowannabe
Under as well
SaberSmuckers
What did the Mets fans do to you?
Obsess much?
At least they show up to games.
joeyrocafella
It’s also been reported that Terry Collins will be his bench coach… no, this is not a joke
PSUMetsFan
How about Tony Pena for bench coach? He’s spent 16 years as a MLB manager, bench coach, and first base coach and won a World Series as the Yankee bench coach in 2009. Plus he managed Beltran as a player in Kansas City from 2002-04 and coached him as the Yankee bench coach and first base coach from 2014-16.
njbirdsfan
Meanwhile, the Cubs hire Ross because he’s a good guy and is friendly with everyone.
And he has….wait for it….zero managing experience.
But the Mets are the joke and the Cubs are an unstoppable force, who BTW, also missed the playoffs with their gigantic payroll and nobody seems to care.
MoRivera 1999
Teams with big payrolls have been missing the playoffs for decades. Look at the RS.
whyhayzee
RS – Roanoke Silvermen, Raritan Sluggers, Richmond Sillywalkers, Reno Slackers, Raleigh Smokers. All have missed the playoffs.
MoRivera 1999
And, the most obvious choice in 2019 at the major league level, which we’re actually talking about, the Red Sox! But thanks for playing.
politicsNbaseball
you said teams which implies you were talking about multiple teams. But yeah blame whyhayzee and the rest of us because we can’t read your mind
MoRivera 1999
Yeah I said teams and I gave one example…
“the rest of us” – how many of you do you represent?
Robertowannabe
Many of us said Ross was a mistake. too. The Cubs are not an unstoppable force. As you say, they proved that the last couple of seasons.
Koamalu
Cubs hired Ross because he was a “tough love” type of teammate and they hope that as a manager that will work to motivate the very talented team he is inheriting.
jdan74
The Cubs missed the playoffs because they had a million injuries to key players down the stretch.
alexmiller6677
Seems like a reach in my mind. For Beltran, I’m wishing him the best, but they just fired their no managerial experience guy in Calloway, the better bet would have been to pursue someone with experience. But the Wilpons fell for Madoff, so they can be sold any bridge.
ExileInLA 2
Beltrán will be great at teaching plate discipline and how to lay off tough pitches…
MarlinsFanBase
Yeah, because every All Star, Superstar, or Hall of Fame player has been able to do that with guys that have less talent than they do.
dkcsmc1991
Then maybe he should be the batting coach
SaberSmuckers
You would have been better off saying “Adam Wainwright as pitching coach”.
nymetsking
Two swings and misses on the joke.
SaberSmuckers
Lol, there was no chance MFB was getting that joke/reference. Way too jacked up on hating Mets fans.
seth3120
I just don’t care for zero experience. Spend a year at Taco Bell then move up to Applebee’s then we’ll talk
Le Grande Orangerie
I thought Girardi to the Mets was the obvious move. Which with the Mets, means it would never happen. The Mets gonna Met.
dkcsmc1991
I did too but we are talking the Mets
jmag1976
hate this move… I believe he should’ve gotten a bench coach role. the only peace of mind is that Collins will hopefully be his bench coach. but I absolutely hate this move through
54scooterb
Wonder if Larry Rothschild winds up the pitching coach.
parkers
I would strongly suggest fans read the book called “ The MPV Machine “ to understand the changes in baseballs overall approach. Hiring Beltran is a very easy to understand signing after reading it. He checks off all the boxes required for today’s technology driven game.
Personally my only disappointment is over how much kissing up to the media goes into these hirings.management looks at the media as a way of getting free advertising. It places the manager in a position to have to cater to some of the most self righteous jerks. These people who have no actual experience in playing the game are daily writing about how stupid a given decision may have been. They do this from the comfort of some place totally devoid of any game responsibility.
Callaway faced two years of them writing how unprepared he was and a year in a half about what a failure Vargas was. Constantly planting the seed that they both should lose their jobs. When all the crap hit the fan in Chicago, it’s what a jerk they were. They should act professional and don’t act like almost any other human being might act when someone is bad mouthing you publicly.
I think writers have an obligation to be fair in their reporting and not act as if they have some superior knowledge. They have a gift for writing but have no more knowledge about the game they cover then the people they are writing for. They have FAR less knowledge then the people they are writing about.
People may say I agree with them and that’s fine, but we as fans don’t have the power to grease the skids which get people fired. Let us be fans, let team management make decisions and let writers report what happened without trying to show how smart they are at the players expense.
Vandals Took The Handles
@parkers;
Why do you think the mainstream sports media should be any different then the mainstream news media.
Don’t you see the propaganda being published, shown, and broadcast daily?
Technical changes resulting in too many outlets, too many media personalities, with more coming in from college and trade schools constantly for years now. Tough to get a paying job, tougher to keep it. 6,7, and 8 figure salaries given to that that get the clicks and views.
One has to figure it out on their own. Anyone with experience in business, life, and/or sports can piece it together fairly easily.
of9376
Zero experience works in smaller markets. Mets blew this one as usual.
Robertowannabe
Why does the market size matter for a manager. Beltran does have experience playing and working in NY so he understands the market’s dynamics. Not saying it is a great hire, we shall see. The market size means no difference in being able to perform as the leader of the dugout.
PSUMetsFan
I’d say market size absolutely matters for a manager: the bigger the market, the more adversity the manager has to handle in terms of pressure to perform from the ownership, the media, and the fans. Callaway was a good manager in his ability to speak well, create and maintain a positive environment in the clubhouse, and communicate well with the ownership, but when he faced challenges when the team started losing he was unable to make the adjustments and looked out of his league.
That being said, Carlos has the best credentials possible for a ROOKIE manager in New York, even with his lack of coaching experience. He played here for parts of 10 seasons, and didn’t just play: he built a hall of fame career, and he did it without winning anything. When he stared at strike three in 2006, he didn’t shrivel up and die like so many New York athletes once they face their first taste of failure. In his final 5 seasons with the Mets he won 2 Gold Gloves, made 3 All-Star teams, and was regarded as one of the best players in the majors. He can handle the pressure of New York.
He’s also got a real knack for teaching and mentoring younger players, which isn’t always the case for exceptional athletes. Most hall of fame caliber athletes in all sports struggle as coaches because they have a hard time relating to people with less ability than they had, but Carlos, who’s always been quiet and humble, seems much more well suited to this than most.
SaberSmuckers
Didn’t realize the Bronx market was that much smaller than the Flushing one.
Same goes for that tiny market up in Boston.
You want to maybe think that comment through a bit?
wordonthestreet
Yankees hired Boone with no experience. Same market.
Brooklyn1953
He may be good. He may be bad. As far as the front office is concerned he’s, well lets just say, he’s inexpensive.
Scrap1ron
If the players don’t perform it really doesn’t matter who manages.
hiflew
Ladies and gentlemen, meet your 4th place team in 2020 in the NL East.
Northeasternskier
Incredibly unique among managers or managerial candidates, is the fact that Carlos has a high school baseball academy in Florida and Puerto Rico that have had 23 their of their students taken in MLB drafts.
denny816
Have Heyman or anyone else who reported a “big surprise mystery candidate” named who it actually was yet?
nymetsking
Nope.
jimmertee
Wow, big-time move by the Mets. High risk. Hail Mary maybe?
Beltran has respect and knowledge but can he manage at an elite level? Can he manage at any level? Can he motivate?
Time will tell.
jvent
How about how about 3 David’s lol. David Wright bench coach, David Cone pitching coach, Dave Magadan hitting coach
slider32
The Mets have been a roller coaster the last few years, they need stability. If Beltran gives them it he will be successful. They have more than enough talent to make the playoffs, and like the Nats if they can get there they have the pitching to win.
Chkrs61
I believe nearly any former player who becomes a manager knows the “Xs and Os.” What it all really comes down to is how he manages PEOPLE. I was hoping for Bogar, but the Wilpons (unfortunately) own the Mets and ultimately run the show.
wordonthestreet
I too think Bogar could be a good manager
Dodgerfan34
Another clueless move by the Mets organization.. Guess they don’t want to win after all. And whoever made the comment about Beltran being able to make moves easily because it can uploaded to a I-Pad? Dumb…..so you’ll be the next GM for the Mets. COngrats.
whynot 2
Says a Dogger fan that hasn’t won anything either in a long time
seth3120
His opinion isn’t any less valid based on a teams he pulls for’s lack of recent WS Championships
whynot 2
Yes it is because he is not making a valid educating comment, rather resorting to name calling like a child.
wordonthestreet
Why the cheap shot at Dodgerfan? Mets have not won forever either. Does that mean your opinion is worthless as well?
metnoxious
Well there it is. Bargain shopping Mets. Face it no matter what they try to scam you with that’s the reason he the manager.
steelerbravenation
2 year tri as l run & then if he fails AJ Hinch will be the manager
VonPurpleHayes
I like the move. Girardi was the safee bet, but Beltran deserves a shot. My only concern would be how he deals with the media. Beltran is a quiet guy who never once had an interesting interview on NY radio. So I hope he can handle the media, but he deserves a shot.
Outside of the Marlins, the division is really good.
Call the Mets and/or Phillies a joke if you want, but I can see either winning the division. Mets need a bullpen. Phillies need starting pitching (and to not have 1000 injuries). I would not bet against the Braves or Nats, but like I said, I wouldn’t be shocked if Mets or Phils take it. NL East is tough.
angt222
I agree. Bullpen needs improvement (major upgrades) but otherwise I feel we have the core to win it all.
SaberSmuckers
You are making way too much sense, reminds me of what the comment section used to be.
seaver41
Most important next hire is the bench coach- Beltran can’t cost them games because he doesn’t understand a double switch. Now from what I understand, Beltran’s baseball IQ is high- hopefully that helps him start higher than clueless Willie and Mickey the moron
sufferforsnakes
Dang, that sure ain’t much money for managing in MLB.
Vandals Took The Handles
You noticed that too.
And being paid that in a large market.
Seems pretty obvious why Girardi, Showalter and others with credentials were pretty much discounted for 1st time managers that will work cheap and follow instructions. Carlos made over $200m playing. He won’t sweat the low pay.
Doesn’t mean the Mets won’t win. Games are played on the field. Time will tell.
Show Me Your Tatis
So it’s just the Giants and Pirates left.
Latest word from SF is that Joe Espada is the frontrunner. Pirates need to hire a new GM first.
parkers
Vandals
Of course I understand the importance of clicks and ratings, producing big bucks for all involved. But please let us hold people responsible for their BS.
I don’t always agree with Phil Mushnick but he does place a spotlight on some of the utter ridiculous things both players and media say and do.
I don’t think there is a more detestable thing than making you chops at the expense of someone else’s misery.
steelerbravenation
I think Mark DeRosa would have been the best choice if you are going no experience
I am really shocked I thought it was going to be Perez or Bogar
Bklyn179
You think everyone would be use to this already
wordonthestreet
Seems like the Mets dragged out the hiring process perhaps just to perhaps get Beltran to agree to take so little.
I think Calloway was only owed about $850k next year, leas now that the Angels hired him as pitching coach.
The Mets are just cheap cheap cheap
And with a now know nothing GM and inexperienced manager on minimum salary they are also dumb dumb dumb.
It will be a long and painful 2020 season in Queens.
jdan74
Look, he was a great player, but managing people is a whooooooooooooooole different beast/skill set. That’s why many of the greatest managers weren’t former players, or they didn’t play for very long, or they were only in the minor leagues for a short time. Being a former great player doesn’t mean you’re gonna be an awesome manager. I wish him well, but I get the feeling this is gonna end disastrously.
bigdaddyhacks
Happy for Carlos, what a great gig. Sad for Mets fans. I don’t think this is a good idea. Long dark times ahead for the Mets I fear.
8791Slegna
Hope it works out for Beltran, the Mets and their fans. We’ll find out soon enough if it’s a good or bad decision. If he surrounds himself with the right coaches and listens to them, he’ll be fine.
goldenmisfit
Great baseball mind too bad he is going to be the manager of the Mets A team everyone knows just wanted some guy in the dugout they can just hand the lineup card to and tell him “this is who you’re putting out there today“ and a guy they can tell when to take a starter out and who to replace him with. They want Brody to run the entire team even on the field they are a joke.
jim stem
Zero time managing OR coaching at any level is still major error.
Frisco500
This move makes me feel old.