“We’re going to be open to anything and see what the market yields,” Giants president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi told John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle about the team’s offseason plans. It isn’t markedly different from the strategy Zaidi employed during his first year in charge of the Giants’ front office, as Zaidi didn’t fully commit to either contending or rebuilding while adding some unheralded players (i.e. Mike Yastrzemski, Donovan Solano) who ended up being solid contributors to the roster.
“We’re still in a mode where we want to compete next year. We want to play meaningful baseball as deep into the season as we can, which was our stated goal in 2019,” Zaidi said. “But we want to do it in a way that creates flexibility for us and keeps us an organization moving in a positive, healthy direction. We’re going to be balancing those things as we go through the offseason.”
Looking ahead to 2020, Zaidi was a bit more firm about some specific items on the Giants’ winter shopping list. Zaidi plans to see a left-handed hitting infielder with multi-position capability, backup catching, and extra pitching, though he again stressed that “flexibility” will factor into the team’s decisions.
For instance, both Buster Posey and the Giants consider the longtime face of the franchise still capable of being an everyday catcher, despite Posey’s down year in 2019 that was perhaps influenced by lingering after-effects from his 2018 hip surgery. As such, Zaidi has options for what the team expects or needs from its secondary catcher role. “Is it maybe a 60-game guy who plays other positions or is it more of a true backup? I think there’s different ways we could attack it because we expect Buster to be even healthier and better a year further from the surgery,” Zaidi said. A reunion with Stephen Vogt isn’t out of the question, as Zaidi described the free agent backstop as “a great fit for our roster,” and expected to be in contact with Vogt and his representatives in due course.
The Giants have already made one pitching addition, claiming Tyler Anderson off waivers from the Rockies to add the southpaw to a rotation mix that includes two proven veterans (Johnny Cueto and Jeff Samardzija) and a lot of unproven younger arms. To that end, “we’d certainly be open to adding more veterans and more innings,” Zaidi said.
A veteran left-handed hitting infielder would provide balance for both third baseman Evan Longoria and second baseman Mauricio Dubon, who both hit from the right side. Though Dubon made a solid accounting of himself in his rookie season, adding a veteran complement to second base could also be helpful if Dubon runs into a sophomore slump. Brock Holt, Eric Sogard, Brad Miller, and switch-hitting Asdrubal Cabrera could all be fits in free agency, and San Francisco will surely be on the lookout for any lefty-swinging utility bats on the trade front.
sherlock_
Another need: A BETTER MANAGER
nrw590
Can we stop with the Gabe Kapler hire hate already? It happened and he probably isn’t going anywhere for at least another 3 years. So just accept it already and give him chance, or at the very least stop whining.
sherlock_
Lol hey I’m an A’s fan I don’t give a **** I’m just still laughing at this. Bottom line SF ain’t winning any games if Kapler is allowed to actually manage.
MoRivera 1999
Obviously you do give a ****. And what A’s fan doesn’t care and have a strong opinion about SF? At least be honest.
Frisco500
And what a’s fan isn’t really jealous of SF’s success this decade. Keep drinking that Hatorade.
statman
All a’s fans (BOTH OF THEM!) have an inferiority complex and are very jealous of the Giants success!
leolujan77
A’s fans shouldn’t even be talking!! They haven’t won in sooo long…. plus to straight wild card losses
themustache
A’s fans (BOTH OF THEM! HAR HAR!) know the difference between “to” and “two.”
sherlock_
Well then we should kick the Mariners, Indians, and Dodgers fans out as well huh?
sherlock_
Look I’m not overly upset that they won 3 rings, well except for when Giants fans talk about it to try to convince me they’re good. But you gotta admit 3 last place finishes are coming up, and partly due to Kapler. I’ll be shocked if he does make it that long.
4thinfsgt 2
I don’t know about “at least 3 years,” because he might be fired mid season.
nrw590
Given the fact that he was Farhan’s choice, and their history together..I highly doubt that. Again, Giants fans need to stop complaining so much and give Kapler a chance man. He may actually end up being a good fit in terms of what the Giants need going forward. Younger personality, and more energy in the clubhouse.
NYSFGiantFan
Hear, Hear!!
drasco036
Better CF cameras is probably on the wish list of all MLB clubs now.
His offseason needs is for some teams to get desperate enough to take on some of those contract and send some prospects back their way. I’m sorry but pushing all the chips to the center a couple years ago and taking Longorias contract was a disaster… Better to reload a year too early than to have to rebuild a couple years too late.
gmenfan
As bad as that has been, extending Belt and Crawford were the real nails in the coffin. $33M for 1.2 WAR in 2019.
Buffering...
Belt has a career 120 OPS+, even though he can’t even sniff the award because he gets benched or thrown into LF, and so much has to do with hitting/star power, he has been the best defensive 1B over the last three years. Bochy certainly never did anything to help Belt have a routine and he has still produced 3-5WAR seasons despite that. Not to mention the non-stop trade talk because so many of the Giants fans are so unappreciative of his skillset. He’s also got positive numbers on the basebaths. 2019 was rough, his 98OPS+ was the first time he’s posted anything close to below average. Giants fans get WAY too much credit for being educated baseball fans. There are a few for sure, but there are far more idiots that have been moaning about Belt since he was stringing together 4.5WAR seasons, thinking Pill, or Huff, or someone else was the answer. I wish all the “fans” who ran Belt down on message boards, would be notified any time they bought Giants gear or went to games with a little message that says “Thank you for your purchase, the funds have been direct deposited into Brandon Belt’s bank account.”
rightyspecialist
Christ sakes, when will Frisco fans stop trying to convince the world that Brandon Belt is a premier first basemen.
Comparatively speaking vs other NL first basemen he’s dreadful. Rizzo, Bellinger, Muncy, Alonso, Goldschmidt, Bell. These guys HIT the ball . Branson Belt is a big corner guy w/ a defense approach at the plate not unlike an NCAA Women’s Softball player
SheltonMatthews
Calling it Frisco is worse than anything else said by you or anyone above you. Don’t do that.
rightyspecialist
Huh?
WarrenSpahn
it’s not “Frisco” and it’s not “San Fran”
Using either of those terms indicates you have never been west of the Rockies
HummBaby
Christ sakes, most of the names you listed play in band boxes.
nowheretogobutup
Warren Spahn one of the greatest pitchers of all time, he was amazing.
HOF, LH with many complete games back when baseball was played by warriors.
Francys01
Any team that misses signing Moustakas, Donaldson or Rendon can look at Evan Longoria as an option.
Baseball 1600
If it weren’t for his awful contract he’d probably be a legitimate target for a team to acquire as a platoon 3B. Did a decent job hitting last year at 3B despite a spacious Oracle as his home field.
ShieldF123
Agreed. Problem is that awful contract attached to so-so production. No one is going to take that contract on unless you pay THEM prospects to do it
Johhos
How much cash are you including and what are you wanting back ? Matt Klentak wants to upgrade 3B on the cheap if he can, saving his pennies for pitching .
aussiegiants53
Re-sign MadBum, Panda and Vogt, look for a taker for Belt and or Longoria, I think Pillar will be back, find some diamonds in the rough. Can’t really tear it down, there’s not many desirable pieces that other teams would want
gmenfan
Bumgarner is as good as gone, Vogt will get better offers, and it’s probably time to cut the cord on Pablo. As for the trades, if the Giants eat a ton on Belt, they may get something interesting in return. Its unlikely that Crawford waives his no trade so that’s a dead horse.
rightyspecialist
Lol…..This ain’t gonna happen. Farhan is in straight rebuild mode.
snotrocket
You are right about having no valuable trade pieces, but they certainly shouldn’t be signing anybody other than bounce back guys on 1 year deals until the bad contracts start to expire. Pablo is going to miss most of next season anyway. I’d love to have Vogt back at last years price, but a contending team who needs a good backup will probably offer a better opportunity for him.
ShieldF123
Agree with all of this. There are zero trade pieces of any value on that roster, despite every fan in the world acting like belt/longo/Crawford can be moved. Just try some reclamation projects, grab some more value guys and aim for down the road
Show Me Your Tatis
Why bring back Panda? What’s more important: nostalgia or winning?
WarrenSpahn
selling Panda hats…
aussiegiants53
Panda won’t cost much and he can play the corners for a minimal outlay. Talk to the Red Sox, Rangers and Marlins about Belt, I doubt they can move Longo and Crawford most likely won’t leave. Going to be a weird off season for the Giants. Try and sign some pieces that could be flipped at the deadline
rightyspecialist
Panda? He’s old, just had UCL surgery and can’t play defense anymore. Why would you sign a guy like that?
ben4ben
They are not going to sign MadBum back
highplainsdriftr
He’s headed to the Braves to join Smith. Book it.
julyn82001
They Giants need to sign the Panda, c’mon!!!
gmenfan
Please, no.
Show Me Your Tatis
What’s more important: nostalgia or winning?
Vandals Took The Handles
Giant fans…..
You have a mercurial guy running baseball ops.
Sit back, watch what’s being thrown up against the wall, and see what sticks – as the bad contracts slowly get off the books. It’s what’s being done.
The chances that both Mike Yastrzemski and Donovan Solano are mainstay’s in the next contending Giants team are pretty much non-existent…..and who doesn’t know it? The chances that even one of them turns out to be an important cog in the wheel is not much better.
As I wrote the other night – come the trade deadline in 2019, Mr. Zaidi did nothing to make the team better for remainder of the season, or anything to make the team better for 2020 and beyond. What you may have is a Paul DePodesta – a wizard at being given an assignment, crunching data, and reporting back to the decision maker that gave him the assignment. But running an MLB team never worked out for him. Last I heard Mr. DePodesta was crunching numbers for the worst team in the NFL….and they’ve remained the worst team in the NFL.
P.S. You’ve been gifted with one of the top 3 TV announcing teams in MLB. Enjoy!
jekporkins
As far as making the team better in 2020 and beyond, he got out from the under the Melancon contract and opened up payroll, traded Dyson about a day before he collapsed, and got a starting 2nd baseman for the next few years. Oh, and he didn’t deplete the minors by swinging for the fences at the trade deadline.
Yeah, he did nothing….
Show Me Your Tatis
He also refused to trade two valuable trade chips at the last opportunity he had to get any value at all for them.
williemaysfield
He’ll get draft pick compensation for Smith and MadBum.
The Giants have money and are no where near the luxury tax. Remember they Offered Harper over 300m last off-season. They definitely need a couple of rotation pieces.
highplainsdriftr
Yeah. You think you know a lot more than you do. Good work on that post though
Frisco500
Yeah, that post was a big swing and a miss. Ouch.
geg42
The question is what were the offers for Bumgarner and Smith in July and whether the Giants thought more of those returns than a supplemental draft pick. Both players got QOs. Both predictably turned them down.
You can buy that the Giants thought that they were in the wild card race or not. But the trade value vs draft pick equation was more important than the public relations value.
bobtillman
Giants fans should worry that with the team they have now, the head baseball guy is worried about acquiring a left handed hitting utility infielder……that’s just too bizarre to be real. Tell ya what, Farhan; the Rays will give you Joey Wendle (solves all your problems) for Buster and you pay half his salary…deal?
I dunno…I thought Zaidi was a decent hire, but comments like those, the Kapler hire, and bringing on an office “gofer” to be the GM has me wondering…..
jorge78
Is it just me or does Farhan
look like a rocket scientist!!??
humphrey x boegarts
More of an accountant I reckon
sf fan
Smith gone, Bumgarner will be gone, Moronta will be out in 2020…. starting pitching and the bullpen don’t look good. This team already looks worst than at the end of last season. And is still crumbling. And Kapler, yes, Kapler… nobody wants him in SF. And he is already talking too much about Bochy. Crying for help. Insecure. I think Bochy is going to manage from his home.
rightyspecialist
They’re going to Worse this year than last year without a doubt
MarkTwain60
I’m puzzled by the dislike of Zaidi. Looking at the huge contracts of Posey, Belt, Crawford, and Longoria signed or acquired before Zaidi arrived,. they are replacement level guys today. Pillar at least does something of value. There isn’t much interest in injured guys, failures and journeymen( sort those out however you please). Their contracts, maybe excluding Pillar, are not remotely interesting to anyone. Why waste huge dollars on 2 or 3 free agents? MadBum is likely gone, W. Smith is gone and Pablo no longer matters. 2 decent free agaents takes SFG from currently maybe 65 wins to 70 wins ? Look for bargains, package D-Rod and Suarez with Belt or Longoria in a deal and write-off the year. The Marlins are likely to be better than SFG.
snotrocket
I agree with all of this, but it would definitely take more than D Rod and Suarez to get someone to bite on Belt or Longoria. The real question is if Crawford is as bad or worse next year does Farhan have the balls to release him…
22jclark
What can Zaidi realistically do with the hand he was dealt? Multiple, bad contracts- he dealt Melancon and got Atlanta to take on the whole salary. Win for the Giants. No reason shelling out a huge contract to keep Smith on a mediocre team. Smith was not the same guy from late June until the end. He will get rid of at least Belt or Crawford this offseason, one way or the other. Might also find a suitor for Longoria. They need to continue getting younger and more dynamic and this takes time. Giants need versatile, controllable young guys and Zaidi will focus on that. No Cole, no Bum, just keep dumpster diving and signing low profile guys. Let the kids in the minors develop and we’ll start trending up in 2021. I still expect them to field a competitive team in 2020 and it will be interesting to see how they do it
nowheretogobutup
by competitive you mean 72-90 for 2020
JayRyder
Farhan is doing exactly what he needs to do.
Extending Smith. Although I wanted him back. At that price was too much for a team in transition. Period. He got paid. Happy for him.
Farhan keep toeing the line. Play for something small. To keep the fan base happy enough. And clear enough payroll to contend in a few.
I Hope they sign Bum. Why.? Because I’m a Giants Fan. Enough Said.
But he’s in year one post Bochy. Keep doing what your doing. It’s these moves that will make or break him. Might as well go all in.
sf fan
Last year Zaidi tried to sign Harper for 300 million, even with all the contracts the team still have to pay. They could use that money to get 5 or 6 good players, via free agency or trades. And maybe Kapler deserves a chance, but not a 3 year contract.
sf2win
More and more, the comments regarding the Giants are exposing how many people there are out there who are fearful of change and anything different.
nrw590
Given the fact that he was Farhan’s choice, and their history together..Kapler is here to stay people. Again, Giants fans need to stop complaining so much and give him a chance man. He may actually end up being a good fit in terms of what the Giants need going forward. Younger personality, and more energy in the clubhouse.
jjnjyoung
Well well well here we go again ZAIDI Will wait until all the good players are gone and then try to sign somebody who’s not worth much just so they can have them for either old retired 1 foot in the ground and another on a banana peel. Bring mad bum back go after wheeler somebody make a good pitching rotation. Again just my opinion thank you