10:34am: Sabathia has been diagnosed with a subluxation of his left shoulder joint, per the team. He’ll be replaced by righty Ben Heller.
6:07am:Â It appears that the long and storied career of Yankees lefty CC Sabathia is now at an end. He exited last night’s contest with an injury, with manager Aaron Boone saying after the game that Sabathia is likely to be replaced on the ALCS roster. Erik Boland of Newsday was among those to report the news via Twitter.
Sabathia, 39, was trying to bail his team out of an error-fueled jam when the trainer was summoned. Boone said after the game that the issue is in Sabathia’s pitching shoulder. Details are scant, but the skipper did say the outlook is “not good.”
The Yanks ended up dropping the messy game 5 contest by a score of 8-3. That puts the team in a 3-1 hole with Justin Verlander and Gerrit Cole lined up to start for the Astros. Ripping off three-straight victories isn’t impossible, but will certainly be a tall order.
The front office will now need to settle on a roster replacement for Sabathia. The limitations of Giancarlo Stanton must also be considered; he’s said to be available to DH but is still dealing with a quad injury. Utilityman Tyler Wade and first baseman Luke Voit were both on the divisional series roster and remain options. Outfielder Mike Tauchman is also said to be available. It’s also possible the Yanks could instead add another arm.
As for Sabathia, he’s already committed to wrapping up his playing career at season’s end. But removing him from the roster would mean that he has now thrown his final pitches as a major leaguer. Sabathia would not be eligible to appear in the World Series — should the Yanks storm back and qualify — if he’s taken off of the ALCS roster.
well that sucks
Yankees should just forfeit. No way they can win both games against Verlander/Cole to force a game 7.
Respect to one hell of a yankee Legend!
You mean baseball legend. We may not see another pitcher like CC. From the gaudy numbers he put up in Cleveland, to his Herculean performance during a half season in Milwaukee, which I remember most of all being a Brewer fan, to his WS championship with the Bronx Bombers CC was an absolute megastar in this sport. Epic, legendary, the adjectives fail us at a certain point and we should be grateful we got to enjoy his career. I know i felt that way last night watching him hold his glove over his face going to the dugout for the last time. Thank you so much CC, it has been an honor to watch him play the game.
Baseball legend? Let’s pull back the reigns there Fantastic player? Yes. Legend? Maybe to Yankee fans like you but I wouldn’t put him up on that stage. You’re writing like he should start doing commercials for Mr. Coffee after he retires..
For a man of CC’s size, it is pretty legendary he was able to have as long of a career as he did. Try not to be so sour.
CC has been a baseball legend on and off the field. Respected by everyone. I think your clearly obvious yankee hate has clouded your opinion. You must be fun at parties.
If you had actually bothered to read my post you’d know I was a Brewer fan and not a Yankee fan. And you go look at what he did in a half season for the Brewers and you’ll realize he put his career on the line like no player in this 21st century. Easily a legendary hall of famer and to think otherwise, as you seem to do, makes me question if you even appreciate the game.
How is my post showing clearly obvious Yankee hate? I could care less if the Yankees win or lose. I live on the West Coast and I couldn’t even remember if CC is playing anymore.
Does anybody realize that he is probably one of the last 250 game 3000 strikeout lefties will probably ever see? And does anybody else know that he’s not actually left-handed? He just throws the baseball with his left hand
He Totally belongs in the Hall of Pretty Good.
Well, West Coast guy, we couldn’t care about whether you’re playing anymore either with the moronic posts you’ve made this morning.
I don’t think Mr. Coffee has done an actual commercial since DiMaggio appeared in his bathrobe in 1978.
You’re an idiot
Lol
@cspaced25
I love CC and I think he’ll get in the HOF but I wouldn’t quite call him a legend. Being a HOF is the greatest achievement a player can have so just the fact that he belongs in the hall speaks for itself. As someone mentioned in this thread (forgive me for not giving you credit) CC might be the last 250 game winner with 3,000 ko throwing from the left side. But in terms of “legends” I think of guys like Maddux, Seaver, Ryan, etc. He’s a HOF but not one of the truly elite guys. But I love the guy for who he is on and off the field. I know ppl at the Roc and they all say he’s genuinely a great dude.
Not me. I’m in my prime. And moronic posts? I simply said he’s not a baseball legend. You’re the one who got their panties in a bunch. Enjoy another early-exit offseason where you think everyone should trade for Jacoby Ellsbury.
No “Yankee hate” but on the flip side it never fails that Yankee likes are pushed down everyone throats as if they should all honor or enjoy their own memories or moments as their own. If he stayed in Cleveland or Milwaukee and accomplished all he did he’d retire quietly, but since he finished in NY we need to have farewells and act like he’s a baseball god.
He is a legend and in 5 years he will be elected to the HOF.
HOF! If Jack Morris is in the Hall, how can you keep CC out?
@Polish Hammer
Who’s pushing anything down your throat? The YANKEES are honoring their own, not the entire league.
And let’s not act as if it’s only retiring Yankees that get that honor. Ripken, Ortiz and many others have to. Nothing is being shoved down your throat. You can ignore post or turn the channel.
CC gave it all he could. He so wanted to earn — and help lift his teammates to — another ring that he wore out his shoulder while dealing with a chronic knee condition. GIVE HIM CREDIT for his effort, no “my widdle quad muscle isn’t wight.” This was a player. See you in Cooperstown come 2025, and a plaque for #52 in Monument Park around the same time.
@Steve – good pitcher. Nothing more.
Think you mean “ALCS” at the end.
Does this surprise anyone? Putting this guy on the ALCS roster was a humongous blunder, because there’s absolutely no room for sentimentality when it come to the quest for a World Series victory. Stanton being there proves the mismanagement of the roster even more. Gardner batting third was seen by everyone, and I mean everyone as stupid. Hey Cashman fanboys, and you know who you are (SBB….) is Gardner coming back?
Thumbs down. A different 25th man on the roster would not have changed this series. Truth.
How can Stanton not even DH? What a stiff he has been this season.
@Bernie’s Dander
They should remove him off the roster if he can’t run but you do understand that DJ is playing 1B and EE is the DH right?
@Steven Chinwood
-Putting this guy on the ALCS roster was a humongous blunder,
The Yanks had 10 relievers on the roster, including CC. Clearly, by the way he was used, the intent was for him to get out a tough lefty here and there and to, perhaps, try and save the bullpen and keep the score close if the Yanks were trailing by multiple runs. In Game 2 he made his first appearance in the series when he was brought in to face LH hitting Brantley. He got him out. He made his 2nd and last appearance last night when he was brought in to try and keep the game close in case of a comeback and to spare the bullpen if the game proved to be out of reach. Two errors by DJ and Torres allowed 1 run to score. While CC did hit a guy the hbp no runs were scored off of CC. So to act as if CC’s spot on the roster was a mistake is asinine and untrue. Heller likely wouldn’t see any action unless under the same situation. To get out a hitter or mop up work.. So I ask, what harm to the game was caused by CC being on the roster? What super stud reliever was left off the roster because of him? Lefties had a .270 OBP vs CC this year. Having him on for limited situations made sense and I would trust a healthy CC on the mound in the playoffs over Tarpley and other alternatives.
As for Gardner, I have no idea why he was batting 3rd. Without knowing the logic behind it then I can’t speak of it. As for whether he should be coming back the answer depends on who are the alternatives. But as of today, yes, Why? Because only a “richard” like you bases decisions on what someone does over a span of a week vs a full 162 game season and JUST based on the overall results, Gardner was a great bargain on a 1’/$8 mil deal. I still don’t understand why ppl hate on Gardner.
Guess what? Gardner wasn’t the only hitter than hasn’t hit much this series. Stupid to point out Gardner when he wasn’t the only culprit.
About time the biggest Cashman apologist chimed in. If Cashman runs your dog over are you gonna tell your kid you did it?
Nah. He’ll tell his kid that the dog committed suicide.
@Steven Chinwood @dynasty in boston
You guys have the most moronic takes. I like Cashman but I’ve never claimed he was perfect. And no, I’m not an apologist but if I feel the cost of acquiring a certain player was crazy of if I feel the failure on-field was because of usually all-star level performing players performing below expectations then that’s on the player.
The Braves had a good hitting team. Is it the GMs fault they only scored 17 runs in a 5 game series? Is it his fault the staff gave up 10 runs in the first inning of the elimination game? Is it the Cards GMs fault that his team was swept by the Nats? Is it the GMs fault that Kershaw choked and the team goes wire to wire but can’t close it out?
It’s easy to look at the outcome and blame it on the GM. Cash will get some of the blame and so will Boone. But the PLAYERS underachieved and that’s on them.
Stop being so childish. You don’t like Cashman? I don’t care. You hate the Yanks? So be it. Nothing you say changed my life for better or worse so stop wasting your time dude.
@Steven Chinwood
Try using analogies that are withing 10 mile radius of making any sense.
Yes, clearly CC’s presence on the roster is the reason they are down 3 games to one.
Needlessly taking up a roster spot doesn’t help either.
Truth
@Steven Chinwood
Tell us oh majestic one, what damage has CC caused? (none) How many runs has he allowed (none). What studly lefty-throwing replacement was left off the roster? Tarpley with the 6.93 ERA
You are not going to change Chinwood’s mind because he doesn’t have one.
Yankees fans will more than likely blame everything on stealing signs, the umps, conspiracies about the league wanting a Astros vs Nats WS. If all that doesn’t work there’s always the old tried and true holler about the injuries.
Oh, give it a rest. No one likes losing. It’s been a lot of fun so far this year, and if the Astros beat the Yankees, well, I’m going to be unhappy, but that’s the way it goes.
If the Astros beat the Yankees. You mean to say WHEN
I agree with everything you said except about injuries. The Yankees have overcome more injuries than any team I’ve ever seen.
Before replay, the Yankees seemed to always get the calls.
If you mean that no team has ever dealt with the number of injuries that the Yankees, that’s not really true (the number of IL days stat is misleading).
If you mean that no team has dealt with the number of injuries and still done well, that is definitely a short list.
Bottom line… Cashman has won one World Series in 20 years, with payrolls north of 200 million every year… And please don’t give him credit for the late 90s championships …that goes to Bob Watson and Gene Michael
Bingo. Worst Yankee run in a 100 years.
so many folks here defend him to the their death, like south beach dummy and Fits with his below 65 IQ.
It’s ridiculous. He build teams to win the summer when they play Baltimore and Toronto 38 times a year. In October always a bridesmaid. somehow the genius thinks a Pen with a higher payroll that 7 teams and guys who mash it (usually just against AAAA guys in Baltimore) or miss it (against Ace and excellent pitchers) are the key to a championship.
time for the genius to show how great he is in San Diego
Don’t forget that scouting aficionado Begamin.
I won’t say he’s a terrible gm, but he does really need to get an actual GM job to truly judge him. Being able to bury mistake after mistake (Stanton, Tanaka, Ellsbury, plus all the other contracts that have left) while maintaining a large payroll is a luxury maybe only one or two other GM’s have. Put him on a team with an actual budget and we’ll see just how shrewd he really is.
fair enough. He is not terrible, just terribly overrated. Only makes trades with crap teams that he knows he can win. He has the best and largest back office so winning small deals is easy. He takes away others people overpaid garbage and is hailed a hero, Right, 20 mil Edwin Encarncion?
he gets free passes by the same media that roasts every other GM in this town. Except none of the other GMs operate in an inequitable playing field.
This is a disgrace that in they will not be in the WS this decade for the first time ever, One WS in 15 years. ENOUGH
“Only makes trades he knows he can win”
Isnt that a good thing? Would you rather he makes trades that he thinks he has a good chance of losing? Anyway, a lot of people here, like you, come off like whiney brats. The playoffs is always a crapshoot. Two elite teams going head to head is essentially a coin flip. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you dont. But its not like the team Cashman has constructed is bad, or else they wouldnt be here in the first place. I do think Boone is a bad in game manager though, and thats an easy enough change that Cashman will probably not make this offseason
@fitsiqis65
You need to have a better understanding of how I supposedly blame Cashman.
Ellsbury? His fault. Failure to sign Corbin? Depends on what management was allowing him to spend.
But if the Yanks lose to Houston then no. I don’t blame him. I blame the players for not doing their jobs. It’s so easy to simply look at the results and say Cash is the blame. But to my understanding it wasn’t Cash who has failed to drive runners in this series. The Yanks pitching hasn’t been bad this series. Even when you exclude the game 1 shutout and the 8 runs allowed in game 4 they held the Astros to 3.5 runs on avg in game 2 and 3. And each of those games the Yanks had a total of 16 runners LOB. That’s on the PLAYERS not the GM.
GMs are responsible to whom they put on the field but the player is responsible to perform up to his ability.
I never said Cash was a perfect GM. I never even said he was the best GM. Everything I’ve said about Cash has been limited to the last 5 years when suddenly there was a noticeable shift in his roster building philosophy.
a) Starting with Didi in winter 2014, he then went on to acquire guys like Hicks, Chad Green, Voit, Happ (trade), Paxton, Chapman (trade), Urshella, etc.
b) His drafting/scouting became much better and he rebuilt the farm system seemingly overnight and graduated the likes of Severino, Judge, Sanchez, Torres, Andujar, Montgomery, etc. He’s traded away 15-20 prospects but he’s shown a knack for knowing which to keep and which to give away.
Being a GM in NY is not like being a GM anywhere else. He’s not perfect. Never said he was. But he’s done a great job with this team and if we don’t get past the Astros it’s not completely his fault. Any team that can win 104 games should be good enough to advance to the WS. Top pitching or not, the Yanks were capable of winning games 2 and 3 and came up short because our offense has under-performed with RISP.
how he revitalized the farm system and debuted Severino, Judge, Sanchez, Montgomery., Torres,
Brian SBD has your back, “But if the Yankees lose to Houston” lol…hello Mcfly anybody home.
i don’t need to understand any of your delusions the results are clear. in no other decade have the yanks failed to make even one world series. spare me and all of us your lack of understanding of what defines Yankee success in the Yankee Universe.
The Yanks will always be good because of the resources and advantages we have. If baseball had a hard cap Cash’s huge advantage would disappear in a NY minute.
And lastly it is plenty his fault. You expected the dead bat society to be any different with the same batters???? only his one good off season move panned out in DJ. This entire playoffs including the beat down of the no pitching Twins, the great Judge is hitting .230 and he’s 4th best on the team. Good pitching beats good hitting every time. The best SP on the Yankees is the 4th best starter in Houston and the 5th best in DC- guess what? one of the those teams will have a parade this year.
If you are correct and Cash is a genius and the players under perform when it matters, than its his damn job to trade, cut, move or fix it.
Until then try and not let the south beach sun delude you cognitive understanding of Cashman’s responsibility in the matter
This is the worst decade? We lack understanding of Yankees success? 15 years without winning a title between 1962-1977 and 18 years between 1978-1996. It hasnt been the 1950’s in a while man, just because youre upset the Yankees probably wont win this year doesnt mean Cashman is a bad GM for not winning every trip to the playoffs you absolute goof.
@JDGoat
JD I wouldn’t call Tanaka a mistake at all. Dude is 20th in WAR among all starting pitchers during his career. He’s had disappointing stretches but a career 3.75 ERA and 3.89 FIP is pretty good.
Here’s my point with Cashman. In the last 5 years he’s put together a collective of Severino, Judge, Sanchez, Hicks, Didi, Torres, Andujar, Voit, Green, Montgomery, Urshela, German, etc and they were all either from the farm system or acquired via trade using prospects, none of which have given the Yanks reason to regret trading aside from, perhaps, Nick Solak who I liked a lot but was never going to supplant Torres at 2nd, Those trades and minor league players were acquired using very litle financial resources. The Pittsburgh Pirates could’ve made those moves. That’s really all I’ve been saying. In the last 5 years, aside from Stanton and splurging on the bullpen he’s done things differently than what he did the previous 15 years. No one ever heard me say he was without flaws or didn’t rely on money to cover mistakes.
But if you can’t give him credit for what he’s done to acquire impact players the last 5 years then I can’t believe he’s being evaluated without some sort of bias.
Begamin- there is no excuse for the last 10 years given the amount of resources the guy has had at his disposal.
If i had told you 10 years ago that the Yankees would average over 200 mil a year in payroll and spend more than double what everyone has in that time frame on payroll, plus spend more on scouts, analytics and player development than anyone you’d think maybe once they’d trip into the WS???
The Yankee bullpen alone gets paid more than some whole teams do.
Don’t gimme the ridiculous racism card when everyone played under the same archaic discriminatory-rules
WTF is wrong with folks accepting that Cash after 15 years has fallen short. And stop blaming Boone. I quote Metallica “obey your Master”. My 12 year old could manage the team the way Cash runs it.
He’s a Steiny flunky and that’s all. Nothing more nothing less.
By the way, who do we give credit to for playing with a 23 man a LCS roster… Cashman, Boone?… Stanton and Sabathia weren’t a go and handicapped the Yankees for this series…
putting Stanton on the roster was a mistake they needed to play the team that got them to this point
Perhaps, however, who would’ve been in their place and not have been second guessed?
I agree that people would have second guessed either way as well. If something went wrong and Stanton wasn’t on the roster, it would have been “They should have had Stanton on the roster”. None the less, I also agree with the sentiment that they should have played the team that got them there.
@poor leo You DO understand that CC can be replaced in this series if he’s hurt right? Literally, there’s nothing lost by having CC on the roster and he did his job in getting out Brantley (the 1 lefty he was brought in for) in Game 2 (i think( and aside from the HBP he was clean in the inning he pitched yesterday. The Yanks suffered nothing with him on the roster and I keep wondering why people keep citing that as an issue.
I will always remember cc as a Cleveland Indian. Happy trails cc.
As a die-hard Yankee hater, I still have to congratulate CC on a great career, and being a pretty good citizen doing so.
Well said. My sentiments exactly.
A suspicious thud.
I love how these post season roster can be manipulated like this. Oh, this guy isn’t effective… let’s put him on the IL and get someone else.
Greinke cant pitch in a pressure cooker like yankee stadium. LOL
Let’s just get a win tonight.. no excuses. If we play to our potential it’s ours
“We”?
Yankees will lose if the astros play to their potential. Yankees showed that solid defense last night.
God I hate when people use “we, let’s, our, ours, we’ve, we’re “ in discussing a teams play, or even transactions. This guy took it to the extreme and used two of them in 1 post
*actually 3 of them
4 counting “Let’s.” Unconscionable.
Who cares if you don’t like ‘we’, get over it. Teams love it. And when I was a kid I was told by the team President/GM that he appreciated me using it.
You people really need to worry about other things.
Yes because it would really help build the fan base if the team president said don’t you dare use terms that imply you are part of the organization
I can’t stand it as well. If you haven’t suited up or been paid by the team you aren’t part of the we
Get over yourself. If it’s a team you root for it’s “we, us, ours, etc.” Now, if you’re putting on your resumé that you’re on the Yankees or some other team, that’s another matter entirely.
@fg. Your Yankees have no hope. None. You’ve been lucky up until last week. Party’s over dude
If the Yankees play to their potential, against Verlander, they will score 2 runs in 8 innings. Especially w the dead ball the MLB decided to use in the post season.
The ball’s not dead, it’s normal and real. They’ve been using a fake abnormal ball all season long which is just about the only reason the yankees are in the postseason. The ball giveth and the ball taketh away. But now it’s the real ball, not the dead ball.
@whyhayzee
So every other teams hitting, including the Astros, was real except for the Yanks? Good to know.
STFU with this “We” BS. Tool
What’s your problem? When I was a kid growing I was told by the Angels GM that I should use the world “:WE”.
You people have problems if someone using the word “we” upsets you. .
For real, if this is something that upsets you, you need to re-evaluate some things in your life.
If you don’t agree with it, just don’t use it yourself and move on with you life. No need to resort to name-calling.
:eyeroll:
It’s over since July 31
With an open roster spot, maybe they can find a guy who can field a ground ball.
.133
Bases loaded walk while everyone else struck out
give this one up- its over. time to move on
not an argument
well is now .111. but thank g-d for that walk
Brett Gardner and Cc should have been replaced in the off season as so Happ too.
Now here we are another year of doing the same thing and Yankee fans are expecting different results.
Brett Gardner come post season has some of the worst stat I have even seen come grind time but what do the Yankees do bring him back and expect him to hit above .100
TI paid very little attention to this team for the first time in my life and I don’t regret it one bit.
Go ahead bring back Gardner so he can play every day and then hit .12 in the playoffs.
You are sitting here expecting different results running the samething out there.
They will not, and I repeat will not sign Gerrit Cole this off-season. Fifty bucks says they bring back Gardner, and Encarnacion. Probably even sign another high priced reliever.
I agree with you.
@Steven Chinwood
Yanks aren’t bringing back EE. They have no need with a healthy Stanton, DJ and Andujar. You do realize they traded for him because Judge, Stanton and Voit were hurt right? I hope that wasn’t lost on you?
As for Gardner. If not him in LF then who? His defense was as good as Tauchman and he’s coming off of a 3.6 WAR which has him ranked 17th among all OF, 5th among all LF and 6th among all CF.. Poor playoff series aside, why would you not bring him back for a 1 year/$8-$10 mil contract?? Who do you bring back instead of him? I don’t think Stanton can hold up for a full season in the field. I don’t trust Tauchman for a whole year. I wouldn’t mind giving Frazier a shot in LF but I would prefer that he beats out Gardner by playing his butt off on both sides of the ball rather than just hand it over to him. And If it’s going to cost millions to bring in a FA or prospects to acquire one in a trade then I think that’s a poor use of resources and would rather go all out to get 1 ace this winter if possible.
Sayonara Chucky Cheese Sabathia.
Chuck’s Cheese? And here I thought CC stood for CuupCake or Cream Cheese…
I’m asking you guys since none of my friends know who Amir Garrett is: Who wins in a fight? Peak 2007-2008 CC Sabathia or 2019 Amir Garrett?
One of the great ambassadors of the game, his charity work has a tremendous impact on countless lives.
I have a lot of respect for him.
Not a Yankees fan, but I always enjoyed watching CC Sabathia pitch. Very athletic and graceful for a big man. Respect.
The article seems to suggest that the Yankees can replace Sabathia with a position player. This is not an option. The rules explicitly state that a pitcher must be replaced by a pitcher – and a non-pitcher must be replaced by a non-pitcher. The only way the Yankees could add a position player is to drop someone like Stanton (and in that case the replaced player would be ineligible for the Series – if the Yankees stage a comeback),
CC should be commended and thanked for his efforts and contributions. I tip my cap to him.
Its just not the real story today. The real story today is Cash botching the pitching pooch again and delivering offensive talent for July….
You may recall the only WS Cash the genius won, was when he signed/acquired the Ace. That Ace of course was CC. Now 10 years and 75 lbs later Cash resigned him, even as he broke down, and put him on a roster where he was not likely to contribute.
This takes nothing away from CC, but avoids the appropriate criticism that the head guy should be facing directly.
Ben Heller?
Longtime Red Sox fan here… A tip of the cap to CC and a great career. HATED facing him; he was close to unbeatable in his prime and somehow figured out how to be valuable even as he aged. Everything I’ve ever heard and read says he was a class act on and off the field.
Regardless of who they play for, I hate to see a player have to walk off the field injured in his last appearance. Hope the Yankees give him a proper curtain call tonight.
So, to the people making fun of his weight..I’ll bet his bank account is fatter than yours as well.
Please go and crawl in a deep, dark hole.
:eyeroll:
The Yankees have nobody to blame but themselves for what is happening in this series. Its unfair to the bullpen to think you can rely on them for 4-5 innings a night. May work in the regular season, but in the postseason, it just does not work for the entire month (my brewers tried to do it in 2018 and they got gassed quickly).
The Yankees knew their rotation was sub-par at best compared to the Astros after adding Greinke at the deadline. Why didnt they go out there and get a front line starter? Or even a middle of the road starter like Wheeler? The whole world knew that they were going to be facing the Astros in the ALCS, they had months to prepare for this series. Why they didnt improve the rotation a the deadline is beyond me. The Astros are showing that even in the “bullpen era” you still need elite horses in the postseason. Less innings on the relievers equals more effective outings. Its why the WS is going to most likely include the Astros and not the Yankees. Cole Verlander Greinke vs Scherzer Stras Corbin
With that being said, have a good retirement CC. You are the man!
@CrewBrew
What ace was there this July the Yanks should of acquired? Stroman? Ray? Mets don’t usually trade good players to the Yankees. I don’t think they’ve ever traded a player of consequence. The staff hasn’t been bad this series if people looked at the actual facts. There’s only 1 game where we lost by more than 3 runs.
Clearly, if it we had German in the series then we would be able to with a traditional 3 man rotation. That was a real gut shot.
It’s the failure of some of our hitters to hit with RISP which is a stat I think we led the league in all year. And even our better “clutch” hitters like DJ and Torres have come up short the last few games.
Once again, Cashman has assembled a lineup that can’t get a clutch hit. I’m never confident when Judge, Sanchez, Didi or Hicks is at the plate with RISP. Gardner is also struggling, but he is a table setter.
Boone is in way over his head, especially in these playoff games. I truly hope he is let go at the conclusion of this series, which the Yanks have no chance of winning.
Yanks need to clean up this roster for 2020. Let Didi walk, trade Urshela, figure out the 1st base situation ( LeMahieu should be playing 2nd or 3rd). Hope Andujar comes back and rakes like he did in 2018.
Yanks also need to address their starting pitching. You can’t win pulling your starters in the 3rd, 4th and 5th innings multiple times per week, and also in the playoffs. Green was overused by Boone in this series, much like Dave Roberts was used by Girardi in the 2017 playoffs and he was gassed by the end of the ALCS.
After 2020, theoretically, Paxton and Tanaka are gone. I don’t see Cole signing with the Yanks, but they better either extend Paxton and/or Tanaka, or sign Wheeler or they’re going to be hurting come 2021.
I’d also trade Sanchez before he gets near free agency. Guy is too hot and cold and strikeout prone to even think about giving a long-term deal, nevermind his lazy defense. I’d also think long and hard about signing Judge long-term. He is a great defensive player but kind of one-dimensional with the bat. Definitely wouldn’t pay $25+ million per for what he brings.
So fire the manager and firesale the team. Might as well boot Cashman too. Solid plan to become Jeff Loria’s Marlins.
All the rat droppings in your NYC apartment building must’ve caused irreparable brain damage. Not anywhere did I state to ” firseale the team “, but other than that, great analysis.
I agree with letting Boone walk and possibly trading Urshela, but i think having Didi back will maximize DJLM’s value to the team (allowing him to move around the infield and give premium level defense at multiple positions instead of locked down at one).
Also, how is Judge one dimensional with the bat? He constantly hits to all sides of the field for power and simple base hits. He constantly drives the counts to 3-2 and draws lots of walks. His weakness is a slider that breaks low and away, sure, but i dont see how having a weakness makes you one dimensional. He isnt EE (low average, high HR count kinda guy)
I’m a Didi fan, just not at the money it might cost to re-sign him. If he accepted the QO I’d have no issue with it, I just don’t like him for 4 or more years at big money.
I believe the Yanks need to strengthen their starting pitching, thru free agency or trades. I know a couple of teams over the past few years have had success with strong bullpens and weak starting staffs, but it’s not an optimal way to win, especially in the playoffs.
As far as Judge, I believe he’s a good player, but not if it’s going to cost the Yankees $200 million + over the next 7 or 8 years. I’m not as hung up on BB as most people seem to be these days. Between walks and K’s, Judge isn’t making contact in 40 to 45% of his at bats. BB and working the pitcher are positives, no doubt, but Judge needs to do more damage with his bat for me to believe he deserves big money over the rest of his career.
I just think bringing back Didi/or another middle infielder, will bring the most out of DJ.
Im with you on the pitching, but i also think the Yankees need a new pitching coach/philosophy. They couldnt maximize the value of Sonny Gray when they had the chance. Im worried that they’ll turn pitchers from good ones to bad ones than i am worried that they dont have the talent there. Paxton, Severino, Tanaka are extremely talented. When theyre on, theyre unhittable. Its just that they cant consistently be like that and Im suspect that its the pitching coaches/analytics’ teams that are bringing them down.
Im not the biggest on walks either but, for a power hitter, walks are a good thing. Patience at the plate until they get a pitch to drive is key. But its not as if thats all he does. He does a lot of inside out hitting which adds another dimension to his hitting game. He put up a 5.4 WAR in an injury shortened season. He’s worth spending the money on just looking at the numbers alone. Theyre undeniable. Im not losing faith in a player because he struggled against Gerrit Cole.
@southpaw2153
I’m an Andujar fan and I’d like them to keep him if possible but I can’t agree that he belongs at 3b over Urshella. And it makes little sense to trade Urshella as he probably won’t bring a whole lot in return based off of just 1 season. And I think DJ is best used moving him around the diamond.
Judge, even tho he’s missed significant time the last two years ranks 6th in WAR among all players since 2017. Bot sure how he’s 1 dimensional offensively when he hits for a solid average, has an elite OBP walking 16% of the time with elite power. Just to put into perspective, he’s had 1,623 PA in the last 3 years and has 106 homers. Arrenado has 2,015 PA during that span but only 10 more homers than Judge.
Judge has room to improve and that’s scary to think. If he can get his k rate down to even 22-25% that could add up to some great numbers.
Did Stanton play at all this year? What a waste of money.
Off topic but…where can I find the “Roster Resource” site (or whatever it is called)? Can’t seem to locate it on here anymore.
Take the two words, eliminate the space, and add a dot com.
Just read an article about Yankee fans in NY taunting Zack Greinke. NY – always a class act.
Worst fans in baseball. Needlessly abusive dbags. Miserable tools.
Uber uber uber…
Classless.
@dynasty in boston
You really think the Yankee Stadium is the only place where that happens to the visiting team? Really? Should I even bring up the racist chants coming from Sox fans towards Adam Jones and others? Cmon. I know that’s not indicative of the majority of Boston fans but please don’t make it seem like it doesn’t happen in Boston, Philly, LA and other cities too.
Hall of Famer in my books. Great career. As professional as they come
It was sad to see a great player like CC go out like that. I am looking forward to seeing him enshrined in Cooperstown in 5 years.
More like 7 or 8
Clearly CC should have retired after 2017
@champion1701
Seriously. Are we just going to ignore the numbers he put up in 2018…as a freaking #5 starter???
I think because we’re so used to CC being an ace #1 starter that we forget he was brought in to be their #5 in 2018 and 2019. In 2018 he had a 3.65 ERA/4.16 FIP in 150 IP. His ERA (result based) was 33rd among all pitchers. How was that not outstanding for a #5 starter?
The ONLY reason I defend Cash for bringing both Sabathia and Gardner back in 2018 is because they were on 1 year deals are weren’t being brought back to have a major role. People act as if CC was expected to be the #1 guy. And the only reason why Gardner got as much play was because of injuries. He had a good solid 2018 and a great 2019.