The Pirates had a Murphy’s Law season in 2019, finishing what they hoped would be a competitive campaign with a 69-93 record that landed them in the NL Central cellar. Thanks to their ever-present payroll issues, they’ll face several tough decisions this winter.
Guaranteed Contracts
- Gregory Polanco, OF: $22MM through 2021 (including buyout of 2022 option; contract also contains 2023 option)
- Felipe Vazquez, LHP: $13.5MM through 2021 (including buyout of 2022 options; contract also contains 2023 option)
Arbitration-Eligible Players (salary projections via MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz)
- Keone Kela – $3.4MM projected salary
- Michael Feliz – $1.2MM
- Jameson Taillon – $2.3MM
- Elias Diaz – $1.4MM
- Chad Kuhl – $1.4MM
- Adam Frazier – $3.2MM
- Joe Musgrove – $3.4MM
- Josh Bell – $5.9MM
- Trevor Williams – $3.0MM
- Erik Gonzalez – $800K
Option Decisions
- Starling Marte, CF: $11.5MM club option with a $2MM buyout (contract also includes 2021 option)
- Chris Archer, RHP: $9MM club option with a $1.75MM buyout (contract also includes 2021 option)
Free Agents
Like more than one quarter of the teams in baseball, the Pirates’ offseason began with the search for a new manager. Clint Hurdle, just days after publicly stating that he’d been assured of his return in 2020, was fired with two years remaining on his contract. The Pirates, who haven’t been in the market for a new manager in a decade, have reportedly interviewed Twins bench coach Derek Shelton, Athletics bench coach Ryan Christensen and Cardinals first base coach Stubby Clapp — each of whom has managed in the minors but not the big leagues. Former Rangers manager Jeff Banister is reported to be under consideration, too, as are Athletics quality control coach Mark Kotsay, Diamondbacks director of player development Mike Bell and Astros bench coach Joe Espada.
A new team president will need to be brought into the fold as well following this week’s announcement that Frank Coonelly will depart after 13 seasons. That search won’t be as exhaustive, it seems, as the Bucs are reportedly set to name a replacement as soon as next Monday.
The departure of Hurdle came not only after another disappointing season in terms of wins and losses but on the heels of reported discord in the clubhouse. Kyle Crick injured his finger in a fistfight that broke out with closer Felipe Vazquez, but that was only the beginning of the team’s Vazquez troubles.
A bombshell report in September brought forth charges of statutory sexual assault of a minor against Vazquez. A criminal complaint released by Westmoreland County shortly thereafter revealed, even more abhorrently, that during conversations with the police, Vazquez admitted to prior sexual contact with the alleged victim — a minor. Precisely what will happen with the remaining $13.5MM he’s owed by the Pirates will depend on the course of criminal and immigration proceedings along with any ensuing league discipline. Whether or not the contract will be voided entirely isn’t known; what is clear is that Vazquez will not receive his salary while he’s not a member of the roster. Given what has been reported to this point, it’s difficult to imagine him pitching for the the Pirates again — or for any other MLB team.
The altercation between Crick and Vazquez wasn’t the only instance of a behind-the-scenes clubhouse problem in 2019, though. Setup man Keone Kela was suspended by the team after a reported altercation with bullpen coach Euclides Rojas. Kela had also previously butted heads with and been disciplined by the Rangers, who traded him to the Pirates in 2018. Still just 26 years old, Kela has struck out 30 percent of the hitters he has faced in the Majors and is clearly a high-end talent, but he’ll likely be on the trade block this winter. The Pirates, after all, also explored the possibility of moving him back in July. That series of off-field issues won’t do his trade value any favors, but Kela, who is entering his final season of club control, is an obvious change-of-scenery candidate.
As is typical with the low-budget Pirates, there will be more trade scenarios to explore, but the extent to which they’re motivated to make a deal is dependent on where ownership sets the payroll threshold. Pittsburgh opened 2019 with a meager $74.8MM on the books, and at present they’re projected to come in around $71.4MM (assuming no non-tenders and assuming the options of both Starling Marte and Chris Archer are exercised). Take away Vazquez’s $5.75MM salary but add in another $6-7MM to round out the roster with pre-arbitration players, and the Buccos are close to the payroll with which they opened last season after an 82-79 finish. Despite their dip in record, the Pirates did somehow manage to slightly outdraw their 2018 total of 1.464 million fans (1.491 million). However, they also still ranked 14th in 2019 National League attendance — ahead of only the Marlins.
Pittsburgh’s Opening Day payroll topped $90MM each season from 2015-17 before sliding to $86MM in 2018 and the aforementioned $74.8MM in 2019. Put another way, the Bucs can afford to increase payroll. Ownership’s willingness to do so in a season with diminished expectations of winning, however, is far from a given. So, if payroll is pared back further — or if a more long-term outlook is adopted after a 93-loss season — who could GM Neal Huntington look to move?
The Bucs reportedly aren’t shopping Marte, although even if they were, it wouldn’t behoove them to broadcast that intention. More importantly, they may not find a better time to move him. Marte still has two affordable years remaining on his contract at a time when it’s extremely difficult to see Pittsburgh contending in the NL Central and at a time when several hopeful contenders need center fielders. The Phillies, Braves, D-backs, Padres, Giants, White Sox and Rangers are all among the clubs who could realistically look for an impactful center fielder this winter. Philadelphia’s need is particularly glaring.
Despite a lack of certainty in the Pirates’ rotation — more on that later — it also strikes me as worth pondering whether the club will look to find a change of scenery for Archer as well. Selling low on a pitcher for whom they paid an exorbitant price in the first place would sting, but things haven’t panned out for Archer in Pittsburgh. The Pirates didn’t have success trying to push Archer back into throwing a two-seam fastball — a pitch he’d already abandoned once in his career — and they were unable to help him curb his home-run troubles even after kicking the two-seamer to the curb once again in mid-June.
However, after cutting bait on that lackluster sinker, Archer struck out a whopping 31.3 percent of the hitters he faced and induced swinging strikes at a 13.4 percent clip. Those are encouraging signs from a pitcher who also has above-average spin on his breaking ball, above-average velocity on his heater and two years and $20MM remaining on his contract. That’s an eminently affordable rate for most teams, but it’s perhaps more than the Pirates care to commit to a pitcher who now looks like a reclamation project after struggling to fit into Pittsburgh’s mold. Tyler Glasnow and Austin Meadows aren’t walking back through the door, but the Pirates could definitely still extract some value if Archer is shipped elsewhere. That the offseason trade market is light on intriguing pitchers only enhances Archer’s appeal.
The question for the Bucs would be what to target in these theoretical trade scenarios. Embarking on a full rebuild would mean simply prioritizing the best available young talent, but they haven’t indicated that they’ll be going down that road. In terms of immediate roster needs, the Pirates are largely set in the infield. Kevin Newman impressed at shortstop in his rookie season, Adam Frazier enjoyed a solid year and Josh Bell finally tapped into the power that made him such a touted prospect. Jacob Stallings had a terrific defensive year behind the plate but didn’t offer much offense. Fellow catcher Elias Diaz, who missed the beginning of the season due to a viral infection, had a lost year all around.
In the outfield, Bryan Reynolds — acquired in what was at the time an unpopular Andrew McCutchen trade — is going to garner Rookie of the Year consideration and looks like a potential long-term piece. Gregory Polanco’s first year back from shoulder surgery was a dud, but he’s signed for at least two more seasons and only a year removed from a solid 2018 showing.
The points of upgrade in the lineup seem clear: the Pirates could use help at third base, behind the plate and (if they trade Marte) at one outfield spot.
At the hot corner, Colin Moran has been serviceable but unspectacular when hitting against right-handed pitching and virtually unplayable against lefties in his career. He’s not a great defender, but Moran has yet to even reach arbitration eligibility, so he’ll be back as an option. The Pirates have top prospect Ke’Bryan Hayes, one of the game’s elite defensive prospects, looming in Triple-A. He could push for a big league roster spot by next summer, so a stopgap at third base or a platoon partner for Moran is all that’s really needed. That can be found in free agency (e.g. Logan Forsythe, Todd Frazier or Tim Beckham, assuming the latter is non-tendered).
In the outfield, the Pirates currently have Reynolds, Marte and Polanco, making them likelier to add depth pieces than a starting-caliber name — if they keep Marte. If he’s moved, the club could look to get a young outfielder back, but the free-agent market will also have ample corner options. Avisail Garcia and Kole Calhoun (assuming his option is bought out) could fit the bill, or the Pirates could simply re-sign Melky Cabrera, who was productive early in 2019 before his offense cratered later in the year.
Things are trickier behind the plate. Diaz looked like a potential option following a quietly productive 2018 campaign, but his illness-shortened season makes him more of a question mark. Stallings showed great defensive aptitude, but he’ll soon turn 30 and has just 282 MLB plate appearances under his belt. Catching help would be a logical area of focus in trades. Even if the Pirates hang onto their top chips, it should be addressed in free agency. Yasmani Grandal is going to be too expensive, but a second-tier option like Jason Castro, Travis d’Arnaud or Robinson Chirinos would likely fit into their price range.
The bigger questions for the Pirates come on the pitching staff. Jameson Taillon’s second career Tommy John surgery, paired with Archer’s struggles, was a massive blow to the Pirates’ 2020 hopes. Add in the fact that uber-prospect Mitch Keller was shelled in 48 MLB innings, and the rotation outlook is unexpectedly bleak. (To Keller’s credit, he was plagued by a ridiculous .475 average on balls in play and did rack up 65 strikeouts, so there’s cause for optimism moving forward.) The rest of Pittsburgh’s rotation includes team innings leader Joe Musgrove, who profiles as a mid-rotation arm, and two pitchers who posted ERAs north of 5.00 in 2019 (Trevor Williams and Steven Brault).
In the bullpen, things are similarly cloudy — particularly with Vazquez likely out of the picture and Kela standing out as a trade candidate. Richard Rodriguez and Michael Feliz turned in solid ERAs with more questionable secondary stats. The rest of the relief corps was a revolving door of shrug emojis. Pirates relievers ranked 23rd in the Majors in ERA, 22nd in FIP and 20th in xFIP as a collective unit in 2019, and that was with Vazquez and Kela combining for 89 2/3 innings. The incumbent group offers minimal hope for improvement.
Whether the Pirates move their most desirable assets now or reload and make another run in 2020, they’re going to need multiple arms added to the pitching staff, some catching help and some infield depth. If they keep Marte and Archer, they’ll likely be limited to low-cost fliers on rebound candidates, given that they’ll already be within $9MM of last year’s Opening Day payroll mark. If one or both of that pair is moved to another club, Pittsburgh could technically spend more aggressively, but the urgency to do so would be diminished, as dealing Marte and/or Archer would in many ways signal a step back.
Barring an unexpected payroll hike, the Pirates don’t look like major players in free agency (as usual). Contending in next year’s NL Central looks like a significant long shot, and the extent to which they believe that possible will have a direct impact on the future of players like Marte and Archer.
The Pirates seem to be on a quest to see if they can field a team for a payroll that equals the 1979 payroll… “Got us a World Series title then, maybe it will work again!”
Hahahahaha great comment. After reading a depressing article about my favorite team, this was perfect.
I’m glad it didn’t anger you – wasn’t meant to! I think back VERY fondly to the “We Are Family” days. I’m a Cards fan, but I wish there was some way that all 30 teams could be competitive – in my opinion, that’s just better for everybody, especially the fans!
what an epic season by chisenDL. …
Does Lonnie even exist or is it just a name on paper??
Lonnie does exist but he has left the building.
1 Wonder what a package for Marte would look like.
2 Wonder if Archer would bring back anything even if he regains some form next year.
3 Wonder if the Astros will take Vasquez.
They NEED to fire huntington before marte is traded.
All the credit for keeping Vazquez at the deadline goes to Huntington. Yet another terrible decision
Not so many PT fans in here saying ‘if they don’t meet our demands, we’ll hold onto him’. While this is kind of a fluke, once you to decide to tank, you need to be decisive.
Right now, PT is at least two years away. If you’re not going to be on the 2022 team, you should be traded.
Actually a lot of us were saying to not let him go unless the demands were met. Another good season would have enticed a team needing top relief help would have met the demands. Who knew that so soon afterwards he would be sitting in jail and never to play again.
Which is why I said it was a fluke.
But what is not a fluke are guys like Boyd & Giles, who under-performed or got hurt, before they had a chance to be traded. Or last year, Donaldson & Machado, both of whom should’ve been traded a year earlier.
The truest bb saying is Branch Ricky saying it is better to trade someone 6 months too early than six months too late.
Blaming Huntingdon for Vazquez’s perversion is so yinzer. Textbook.
the commenter’s point is that they should have traded him. Huntington is indeed responsible for keeping him past the deadline, which was even a bad move in foresight.
So, he didn’t get enough for Cole, but…he should have taken the best offer for Vazquez whether it was good enough or not.. K.
It all depends on what the package for him was. If Lux and other top Dodger assets were offered for him then he shoulda been traded. If Vazquez had never gotten in trouble then he would still have tremendous value and could be shopped this offseason. This is Vazquez’s fault IF TRUE
Bingo Pirates wanted Lux, May, Ruiz, and others from Dodgers and that is why Dodgers did not make the trade for Vazquez! They were not giving up their top prospects and I am glad they did not!
The dude confessed.
Aaron-I am not aware that the names that NH wanted from the Dodgers are public.
It seems that he knew that the Dodgers could not offer that entire package.
He needed a pitcher,catcher,and a couple of lower level prospects and that is probably what he asked for.If he wanted Lux included then he was asking for too much.
The commissioner needs to fire Nutting.
Except Manfred works for Nutting and the other owners. Impossible to fire your boss.
I remember a lot of Pirates fan in July screaming don’t take anything less than a top 10 prospect for Vasquez. The Dodgers didn’t want to part with Gavin Lux or May so no trade happened.
If the Pirates were aware of Vasquez’s problems before the deadline, then they should have traded him
Wonder if the Astros will take Vasquez?
Are you kidding me?
He’s going away for a long, long time
to even suggest the Stros would want Vasquez, even in jest, is sickening and really downplays the seriousness of his crimes.
As opposed to Osuna…?
“Sex, but not really”
At least he’s not a pedophile going to jail for a long time.
Lighten up forwhomjoshbelltolls
I think it’s a safe bet that Vasquez will never toe the rubber of a major league pitcher’s mound again.
I think it’s a safer bet that if Vasquez does pitch in the big leagues again some year, no executives of the team for whom he pitches will boast in front of female reporters about how very glad they are to have acquired him.
He won’t be back.
What the heck is a quality control coach?
Referring to the Pirates’ bullpen as a bunch of shrug emojis seems to give them a little too much credit. I think poop emojis is a more apt description.
The outlook is 10 seasons until PNC is a AAA ballpark.
And counting.
Cheaper tickets, getting to see some of the next crop of future MLB players every year and still get to keep PNC Park?
I’m not there yet but if its ten more years of profit over winning organizational philosophy then I’ll probably take that trade off.
Might as well move the oufield walls closer in the gaps. At least, the kids can hit more homers.
Of course would you have said that about the Astros in 2012 & 2013 when they lost over 100 games???!!??? I bet you would!
Houston is the 4th biggest city in the country and growing.
Pittsburgh…is not.
You mean that at least one AAA team doesn’t play there already?
When the Marlins visit, it’s two AAA teams.
Pittsburgh’s problem is that the cant pick a direction. as bad as the Cole and Archer trades were alone, doing both forced them to commit to neither being all in or truely rebuilding. they need to pick one or the other.
Tear down. I love Marte and Bell has great value, but sell high and get a GM and system that can draft and build great players and a coach that assesses the situation at game speed and does whats necessary.
Totally agree, tear down, start with pitching
Problem with this is that there’s no guarantee a rebuild will work. Once you begin, you’re stuck with prospects and more prospects, most of whom never pan out. The point is that when they DO, you should keep them and add more major league talent to the mix. This went south for Pittsburgh when the team decided it couldn’t win with Gerrit Cole. So now they’ll trade Marte and Archer . . . and hope they get prospects who will eventually turn into another Marte and Archer.
Time for PIT to tear it down. They had a nice run with McCutchen and now it’s time to sell and stock up for the next run at the postseason.
The Pirates are, sadly, in no man’s land with this team and its owner…and i don’t mean their location. They do have a few players that other teams would like to have, specifically Marte. Were they to make him available, as they definitely should, there will be a number of teams willing to outbid each other. Not trading him is both foolish and bad business.
The Pirates need to be open to trading with any other team, including within their division. In those terms, i could see several destinations for Kela.
There should be no player on the 40 roster that is safe and untouchable.
I’d say the 3 biggest needs of the Pirates in this order are:
1. A new owner
2. A new GM/POBO
3. A full rebuild
Nutting is perhaps the cheapest owner in ML baseball. Huntington is clueless. There is no way the Pirates contend any time soon with this group.
Yep. Huntington WAS okay given the monetary restraints 6 years ago, but he got in his own way. He HAS to change with the times or be replaced asap. Hurdle was fine, but also got stale and didn’t want to adapt.
Life is about adapting to make ourselves the best possible version of us on this day, given the situation we are currently in. It’s not how close we were to success at one point recently. It’s how to reach new success and be happy doing so NOW.
Clean House. Their Draft Ann player development teams should all be fired.
Here is a crazy thought: Merge the Pirates with the Marlins. You get Miami’s pitching staff plus their catcher with Pittsburgh’s remaining position players. It would be a much more interesting team than what baseball seems to be stuck with now. As a Reds fan, it is hard for me to feel much sympathy for the folks up river, but it makes our troubles seem almost bearable in comparison.
I’d love to see Marte in Atlanta. Offer them Ender, Touki, and a low level or 2.
They wouldn’t take that
So give Pitt your garbage for their best player. Seems fair.
Ridiculous comment. Be serious or don’t post. Who needs to hear this nonsense
How this GM has his job is beyond mind boggling.
He screwed up the Cole & Archer deals. The farm is bare & when exactly was the the last time he got the draft right. Seems to me they got to the postseason in spite of him.
The GM and anyone associated with past drafts should be fired. CLEAN OUT YOU HOUSE! Get rid of the same old same old.
Bell and Newman were both drafted by him. Priester looks promising
Agree
Kyle Crick is an American hero
Trade Marte now. He has had two great seasons in 2018 and 2019 but is on the wrong side of 30. They should get what they can for him now while the return is actually decent. There are a ton of teams who would inquire about him just based on their OF need alone.
The Pirates have the worst owner in professional sports in Bottom Line Bob Nutting. He is the 14th richest owner in MLB and he didn’t get that way by spending it. He runs the Pirates like he runs his newspaper, phone book and ski resort businesses. Low pay, little reinvestment and little ability to attract quality employees because he won’t pay them. It’s a business philosophy he learned from his father Ogden Nutting to amass the family fortune and will pass it along to his daughters. He won’t sell the team, and he will never change. So that means the Pirates will never seriously contend, let alone win a World Series.
How was Nutting allowed to be owner?
Could it be $$$$$ ?
Because the previous owner was even cheaper.
Very sad state of Pirates.
I don’t necessarily think the Pirates need to commit to a full-strip down everything-rebuild. There’s reasonable talent in the farm system, and some quality (and controllable) pieces on the big-league roster.
With that said, Marte must be traded this off-season. As for Archer, it’s worth the risk for PIT to exercise his option in the hopes he rebuilds some trade value by the 2020 trade deadline.
With Archer, having a new pitching coach that will change philosophy of pitching to contact and to pitch to your strengths while moving the ball inside and outside of the plate, could help Archer, Musgrove, Williams, and others. Searage was so stuck on pitch to contact and it hurt some of the pitchers performances. A smart pitching coach with better analysts of pitches and better “assistant” pitching coaches. If the Pirates can get better offensively with the new hitting instructors this year, why can’t they dig up an old gem like offering jobs to names like Mike Maddox, AJ Burnett, Trevor Huffman, etc. I’d be interested with watching a old veteran teaching young studs a few things.
The new team president is a step in the right direction. As Steve said dealing Marte, Kela,
and Archer would be optimal. There is one drawback: Huntington being in charge of any
kind of rebuild would be foolish. After all he took a 98 wins & turned it into the dumpster
fire we have now. How many GM’s have been on the job for 12 years and no success!
He and the idiots who run drafting & development must go.
Ty-Kela will not be traded as he is their closer now and they do not want to become an embarrassment and win 55 games.
Marte will be traded only if they get what they need in return.
Archer will not be traded unless he starts pitching well so they do not have to deal him at a low point.
The Pirates won 280 games over a three year period but you consider that to be unsuccessful.
NH trades are some of the best in the ML over the last seven years if you take the time to look at them.
Too many posters are completely clueless.
Please enlighten me on his successful trades.
Because the best trade chip he had in Cole he sold for pennies on the dollar.
You wanna say Cervelli was a successful trade I would agree
You want to say McCuthen trade was a success I would agree thus far but you could make the argument the jury is out & Reynolds needs to prove himself a bit more.
Archer has been a disaster
But put all the trades to the side. This guys drafts have been utter embarrassments.
I am not going to comment on the drafts because I have not studied the results.Disaster,though I think is harsh.Not very good is probably more reasonable.Plus they could have been a much better job at developing what they did get.
I have listed these trades three other times in the last week or so and got crickets back.
Kela for a minor leaguer.Dickerson for Hudson.Burnett for no one.Handrahan and Holt for Melancon.Vasquez for Melancon.Cutch would be too pricey at $50 M so him for Reynolds and Crick is a no brainer.Nova for no ne.Years back Harrison for Grabow.
Posters look at one bad trade and glom on that because it meets their agenda.
The Walker and Liriano trades happened because of money.The Walker trade was reasonable at the time,and he has been hurt much of the four years since.
His free agent signings include Liriano,Joyce,Melky,and Liriano again.
I was severely critical of him last spring when he did not fortify the staff pitching for injuries and they pad a steep price trotting out the AAA pitchers.
I have found posters on this site jump on the bandwagon quickly when players or teams go poorly.
Do you think Rizzo and the Nationals have always been free of criticism?
NH overall had done a good job with Pittsburgh but he needs to improve in certain areas and the last couple of years has not performed well.The Pirates at this point are not a plum job so they would have to replace him with someone with no experience which would very well be problematic.The Blooms of the world will be going to the wealthy teams just like the players.
I would much rather be a Pirate fan,though,than one of the tanking teams which have no hope to compete for the playoffs.
Tremendous, well written synopsis of the Pirates moving forward by Steve Adams. Hard to find any optimism for anything above a .500 season. Even that seems like a pipe dream
Who are the NTC’s
They shouldn’t trade anybody in the offseason.
Archer would not bring back anything of substance right now. You hold him and hope he turns it around and deal him at the deadline. If he is able to turn it around he could get a nice return.
If you are to trade anybody it d we oils be Marte but I would hold on to him this year and hope his production translates into production for Polanco. Giving Polonco a professional hitter hitting in front of him should give him plenty of opportunity for RBIs. Then you have 2 assets either at the deadline or next offseason.
Also Kela has potential to turn himself into a huge chip for the deadline. He is pitching for a contract and has had success.
It’s sad because if the Pirates owner would really try to put forth a winning organization and hire a competent GM they have the assets to jump start a rebuild.
But their owner is a leach.
Honestly trading Marte would be a good move. Fans didn’t like it when they traded Cutch or Cole, but those returns have been good.
With Marte, they are several suitors, including the desperate Phillies, who could give up a lot for him.
The Pirates should pull an Astros. Trade all assets with any values to get the best prospects you can.
Bell will get something nice. Musgrove is worth a top 100 prospect and Archer may get them something they will use dow the road but boy the embarrassment.
They must get 2 good prospects for Marte.
Suck for 4 years pile up the picks and put all your assets in development.
Use a roster with 25 guys making the minimum. $13m payroll would be funny
Mustang-To “pull an Astros” is not very smart.
Do you think that it guarantees their success?
They lost over 100 games three or four years in a row.
Such a cavalier attitude would completely ruin baseball in Pittsburgh.
The Astros were as bad of a team for as long as the Mets were when they started.
These teams that are tanking now will not have WS chance even if they get better unless they can spend with the wealthy teams for several years when they peak.
I congratulate the Astros’success and their fortuitous trade with Pittsburgh but they were an embarrassment for many years.
The same dismal pirates. Unless, they spend in free agency to acquire some bars, they will be cellar dwellers again.
I didn’t know that bars could be acquired in free agency. But obtaining some bars could be a sound investment, given how much the Pirates and even the Steelers have driven Pittsburgh fans to drink during recent times….
Lf- Pittsburgh has plenty of bars.
I think that army left out the e and meant “bears”.
Then they move to Chicago so that they have three teams in the ML.
MendozaLine — Your theory is possible. But with today being Halloween, the original poster may have meant that the Pirates should acquire bats — you know, the frightening flying winged creatures popular this time of year. The bats could scare away the memories of the team’s 2019 season.
Lf-you must be right again.
I will get my Batman costume out and try to get some treats tonight.
You are not just another pretty face Lf.
Lol.