Oakland mayor Libby Schaaf said today that Major League Baseball commissioner Rob Manfred has indicated that he sees Las Vegas, Nevada as a possible relocation spot for the Athletics, Sal Castaneda of KTVU reports on Twitter. Manfred’s threat of exploring options in Vegas had been reported recently by the San Francisco Chronicle.
The newly combative stance from MLB’s top official arose after the city of Oakland filed a surprise suit to block a major portion of the A’s stadium plans. Manfred’s already reported comments conveyed a thinly veiled warning that the team and league could consider alternatives. But it was not known that he had specifically floated Las Vegas as a realistic possibility.
Vegas holds particular allure for Major League Baseball and special meaning to Oakland-area fans. After all, Sin City just lured away the Raiders with a massively subsidized new stadium. Whether or not there’s further appetite in Nevada for taxpayer-funded facilities isn’t really clear, but it is at least a facially plausible threat for the commissioner to make. Notably, though, local officials said they were unaware of any actual discussions to this point, per the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Several other cities have been mentioned at times as potential relocation spots, but it’s not clear which if any would be serious possibilities with the Rays already flirting with Montreal.
Manfred has made clear plenty of times in the past that his strong preference is for the Athletics to remain in Oakland. And the A’s have worked hard to come up with a workable plan built around private financing (which isn’t to say that significant public support wouldn’t be involved). There are surely still plenty of pathways for that result, though it’s also certain that team and league have little appetite for too many more campaigns in the Coliseum.
ogenshnot5194
Good idea let’s screw over Oakland even more.
todd76
Hey Manfred must be nice to play god in MLB. Your husband must rule your home.
bigjonliljon
Maybe Oakland residents should effect change by voting out the politicians whom are causing these issues
Vandals Took The Handles
This is the Mayor that told illegals to scatter when when she was told by ICE that a raid was coming.
As for the history of Oakland City Council – it’s not been accountable for much of anything regarding pro sports. The Raiders moved out. Came back when the LA City Council reneged on the deal that brought them there. Then another Oakland City Council reneged on a new deal which brought the Raiders back, while Las Vegas happily gave the Raiders a far, far better deal. And the Warriors – playing across the street in Oakland – are getting a new, state-of-the-art arena…..across the Bay in San Francisco.
So like all Cities run by a certain political party – it’s always someone else’s fault when they don’t do their jobs and people go elsewhere and succeed.
Dogbone
Sure, like maybe tru mp can buy them and make a complete mess of everything he touches. Unless of course, he can fix the games by appointing the right umpires.
CarolinaRays
Pretty sure that passing blame off on others is a defining characteristic of both our glorious political parties.
Strike Four
thats the trait every boomer has
chiraqi_savage
tri…tri…triiggggggered ❄
chiraqi_savage
tri.tri.tri…triggered! but muh orange man bad
Padres458
Those politicians completely revitalized the city.
macstruts
With a crime rate of 74 per one thousand residents, Oakland has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes
People are literally dying to live there.
Strike Four
If crime is a problem, why does St. louis have a team?
Exactly. Shut up.
dugdog83
Strike Five.
macstruts
Have a nice time in St. Louis. Take some nightly strolls. If you survive, try Chicago, then Detroit, If you survive that, buy a lottery ticket.
I won’t tell you to shut up, you can talk all you want, this is America. Of course the people you bump into are likely to tell you to shut up.
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sportznut1000
reading the espn article i learned you have the city suing the county. the taxpayers never win that scenario. great use of taxdollars.
Strike Four
Maybe MLB should force the A’s and Giants and Pirates owners all to sell, as they are clearly being petty billionaires at the expense of the game.
That Bay Area has enough money and people for FOUR TEAMS. But the disgusting greedy pig Giants owners want it all for one team only. We need the A’s in Oakland and the Rays in San Jose, ASAP. Screw “territorial rights” – the market needs to be split evenly, not having Giants team stores in Walnut Creek.
Colorado Red
and the A’s in Vegas baby.
The Rays in Tampa, and the Giants in Mexico.
dimitrila
Yeah but for a market that seems very questionable in its ability to support a baseball team in a meaningful way.
jekporkins
Back in the 1980s and early 1990s they drew 3 million fans and were way more popular than the Giants.. Then came Mount Davis to wreck the ambiance and sightlines and the Haas family sold the team in 1995. It’s been a downward spiral since.
The current ownership invests zero money into the team and the stadium is a dilapidated toilet bowl.. The city doesn’t seem too interested in keeping any of the teams. Sometimes it’s just time for a team to move to greener pastures. They are the Montreal Expos of the 2010s.
spinach
A non-existent team?
Ernie Riles
The A’s have never drawn 3 million fans in a season.
macstruts
Oakland pretty much screwed itself.
Michael Chaney
I’m all for supporting small markets (I’m an Indians fan, so believe me I get it), but I think Oakland is doing this to itself. I feel bad for the fans, but I can’t really feel bad for the city itself.
Oakland is basically playing chicken with the A’s and MLB, and I feel like they’re being pretty uncooperative even though the A’s are at least trying to be flexible and work with the city. Oakland already lost the Raiders and the Warriors, and the Raiders in particular seemed to have one foot out the door the entire time, but it’s still worth mentioning. All this being considered, you’d think they’d put in a better effort (or at least cooperate) to try keeping the A’s in the city, but the A’s will probably leave soon too and I’d have a tough time blaming anyone other than the city for it.
lowtalker1
Move Oakland to Vegas
Outside of the violence in Oakland not much different… other than no Bart.
Gmen777
What would this mean for the Giants territorial rights? Would the A’s still hold them even in Nevada or would they all be the Giants?
kodiak920
Good question.
Vizionaire
a’s might buy it out.
spinach
You mean Giants? I wonder if they would be left free for another team to take?
uncle mike
Amen to buying it out.
jorge78
It wouldn’t matter because no other team would move TO Oakland…..
Gmen777
Jorge78 but Oakland is still the Bay Area and trust me the Giants would be VERY interested in those territories if they could get them
bowserhound
Screw the Giants. The A’s would be playing in San Jose by now if it weren’t for the backstabbers across the bay. They get nothing but the finger.
talking baseball
Dude your crying over spilt milk, San Jose voters turned down the Giants movie there in the early 90’s. So why do you think they would vote for an A’s stadium ? and by the way the Giants own rights tithe South Bay, which includes San Jose.
Jean Matrac
Generally, the territorial rights of any team extends to a radius of 75 miles. Adjustments have to be made of course for cities with multiple teams, which is why adding a 3rd team in NY is highly improbable. But teams can be overruled despite those rights, as the Expos moving to Washington, which was within the area that the Orioles had territorial rights, shows.
If a team leaves a one team area they cede those rights to any team that might relocate to that city in the future. In the case of a multi-team metro area, they would cede those rights to the remaining team(s). So Oakland, would automatically come under the territorial rights of the Giants. They, of course would then fight against any team relocating to Oakland in the future, as the O’s did, but like the O’s, would maybe not be able to stop it,
macstruts
The Giants and A’s territorial rights extend to Reno.
Seattle’s extend to central Oregon.
It’s ridiculous how far those rights go.
Jean Matrac
You may be confusing maps showing the area of fandom with the actual territorial rights. Most articles you can find deal with all sorts of issues like broadcast range, sales of team gear, etc. The clearest definition I found was here:
newballpark.org/2008/05/16/a-territorial-rights-pr…
It says; “The Athletics’ territory includes Alameda and Contra Costa Counties”
“The Giants’ territory includes San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Cruz, Monterey and Marin Counties, plus Santa Clara County with respect to another major league team”
implant
You are wrong. The Dodgers have no territorial rights in SoCal. The Giants were gone in 92 until McGowen stepped in and negotiated those rights. The Orioles have been fighting the Nats for years over perceived rights. Clearly MLB didn’t think they had any territorial rights
Jean Matrac
No you are wrong. The Dodgers share territorial rights with the Angels.
“The Dodgers’ and Angels’ territory includes Orange, Ventura and Los Angeles Counties”
How am I wrong when I said, that, despite the territorial rights “teams can be overruled”. And why are you citing the Nats move into the O’s territory to me, when that was the example I used showing that teams are overruled.
Maybe you need to work on your reading comprehension. Especially since we weren’t even talking about the Dodgers. Though I can guarantee you they would fight any attempt to put another team in LA. And given the relative influence of the two teams, the Dodgers might have a better chance to succeed than the O’s did.
bluestorm51
This just makes too much sense not to happen. A’s and Raiders as a package deal to Vegas. Move Rays to Montreal and change them back to the Expos, move them to the NL, the Marlins to the AL and boom. Problems solved.
kodiak920
This actually kind of makes some sense…
dray16
The Nationals were the Expos
its_happening
Montreal will draw less than Tampa by playing at old Olympic Stadium. To help their attendance they need to be in the AL East with Toronto, New York and Boston. They will travel to their games to ensure they reach 10,000 fans for a night.
jorge78
Montreal needs a new baseball only
stadium…..
its_happening
Much easier said than done. See my comment below.
jdgoat
I hope they change to more geographical divisions and leagues.
Vizionaire
yeah, arizona in al west instead of houston.
its_happening
Arizona for Houston? Who replaces the Texas Rangers?
Vizionaire
i think 2 texas teams should be in different leagues.
DarkSide830
the league is very East heavy. Texas makes much more sense as a Western than central state.
jbigz12
Who do you move around then? My brother and. I have discussed this topic and tried to rearrange teams in divisions to see if we could come up with a “perfect” solution. No matter how you decide to rearrange the deck chairs you’re still on the titanic. There will be at least one division that gets screwed location wise no matter how you want to divvy them up. The two Florida teams are near nothing but Atlanta. You can’t ever make a division there that makes geographical sense.
astromariner
Kind of an impossible task with the majority of the teams being in the East.
jorge78
The Raiders have already made their deal…..
Coal tender
Never liked that name “Expos.”
spinach
Always liked it.
Racerman967
Why do the Rays/Expos need to be in the NL? All of the AL East teams are there (NY Bos, Tor,Balt)
realistnotsucker
Or keep the Marlins in the NL and have the new Canadian team in the AL so they can have a rivalry with Toronto similar to the way Houston joined the AL to become bigger rivals with the Arlington team
BKS1110
I can’t see the sense in moving the Rays to the NL if they move to Montreal. They’re already in the AL, and would be natural rivals for the Blue Jays, plus road teams could visit both cities on one trip, making across-the-border travel much easier.
talking baseball
I like your proposal !!
batty
This new ballpark saga has gone on far too long. Of course the A’s fans are the ones getting used and abused the most.
Padres458
All 5 of them?
RootedInOakland
Think u mean all 55K of them that set an attendance record for a WC game but na we got more of em
Sf24
Yea, but they were 24th in the league in attendance. Loud yes thanks to the drums.
pd14athletics
Guess you didn’t catch the Wild Card game? Wasn’t the strongest showing by the team, but definitely showed how good A’s fans are. Despite the stadium situation and having an owner for years that wanted to leave, having a churning roster, A’s fans are loyal and loud. About the exact opposite of what I saw the 6 years I lived in SD.
Vizionaire
very loud for sure.
Padres458
Filling a stadium for a playoff game is easy. Ive been to plenty of sd sports playoff games. People always show up amd people are always loud. Its the playoffs. Petco was 10 spots hire in attendance compared to oakland.
pd14athletics
Plenty? The Padres have played a few playoff games in the past couple decades. No I haven’t been to a Padres playoff game but I doubt there is any comparison in the fan atmosphere and involvement between Padres and A’s
Jean Matrac
Attendance isn’t good in Oakland because of the ballpark, not the team. If they had a decent place to play in, that was good for the fans, attendance would not be a problem.
Padres458
When the chargers were good, the people of SD showed up at qualcomm.
jorge78
Here come the threats!
Perfected under Selig…..
macn307
Salt Lake City would be a good spot for them.
DarkSide830
id think Nashville, OKC, Vegas, or Montreal would all be better markets.
its_happening
Montreal has no market unless out of towners plan to drive to 81 home games throughout the season.
DarkSide830
i would have suggested Vancouver instead, but if presume Toronto-Montreal rivalries, plus the existance of a stadium that could at least be the blueprint for a new one, plus name recognition, makes it a better option.
its_happening
There are more Expos fans outside of Montreal than in Montreal. Growing up watching the Expos on TV brought fans from all over the country. Unfortunately the team needs local support. They didn’t get that for the last 20+ years of their existence.
As for the new stadium they have a funding problem. The province is in serious debt. If they offer tax dollars for a new stadium there will be a problem and a fight. They need every dollar coming from private funding, and that’s tall order. City might give the team a sweetheart land deal, but the labour and building costs will be outrageous.
Jean Matrac
@WereAllJustGuestsHere
I think you’re wrong. I attended 2 games there back when they were competing for the post-season and the park, as awful as it was, was full. The fans were enthusiastic, and it was a great atmosphere. They got screwed by the strike, and admittedly were slow to come back, but that is now distant past. The Rays are a winning team, and I have no doubt that they would be supported far better in Montreal than they are in Tampa.
keysox
Tad are you joking
its_happening
Tad – even when Montreal contended for the postseason in 1993 and 1994 they were underwhelming in the attendance department. Their attendance after the strike was downright awful and WORSE than Tampa’s output.
Tampa needs to be closer to Tampa and not in St Petes on an island. That will solve everything. Being in Montreal where they do not care about baseball (they don’t, proof is an online search away). I’ve spoken to Rays fans and when the highways close due to weather they simply can’t helicopter in.
Jean Matrac
In 1994 they played only 114 games. The Expos drew 1,276,250 that season. The NYYs drew only 1,675,556. The Expos out-drew 7 teams including the Mets. All 7 of those teams are still in the city they were then.
That attendance in 1994 projects to 1.813M for 162 games. In their 22 seasons, the Rays have drawn more than that only 4 times.
its_happening
They only outdrew 7 teams with the best record in baseball and a subway system running below the stadium where you can walk in? Wow!
6 of the final 7 seasons the Expos drew under a million, and they only broke 1-mil thanks to games in Puerto Rico. Montreal, like Tampa, needed another city to help boost their attendance issues. To date, Tampa has NOT fallen below a million fans in a season. Montreal, 6 times.
There is nothing attractive about putting baseball back in Montreal. They were below league average after 1983. There are many US cities more deserving with a better economic situation than Montreal Quebec.
Jean Matrac
A subway directly under a stadium is not worth much when that stadium is a bad one. And it’s not like that stadium was in town. You have to ride out of town to get to it.
So what if the Expos were a first team? That was only one time BTW, which was the strike year, and that’s a mitigating factor. The Rays have been a better team, actually going to the WS, and they still do not draw as well as the Expos did,
The Rays drew 1,178,735 this season going to the PS. Yeah, it’s over 1M but come on. That’s pathetic.
Every single season where the Expos drew less than 1M was a bad season on the field, except for 2002. Otherwise every one was sub-..500, Do you expect fans to turn out for a losing team?
Washington is the perfect example of why you cannot assume that Montreal will not draw fans. The bad, second generation, Senators had horrible attendance but. It’s a different story in D.C. now.
its_happening
I lied; Montreal drew below 1-million a total of 9 times out of 36 seasons. A clip of 25%.
Do I expect last place teams to draw fans? Well, if the new Expos fall to dead last should they pull the franchise from that city for a second time? Montreal’s stadium is out of the way, absolutely. So is Tampa. Tampa is in St. Petersburg on an island. Find a way to build a stadium in Tampa and the problem is solved. Move the team to Montreal and you have:
– The same bad stadium
– The same bad location
– The same disinterest within the city
– A much worse economy than Florida
– A much worse economy than nearly every state in America
– Stadium plans with no funding thanks to that bad economy
– A franchise with fans who don’t live in Montreal
– The threat of snow in April, May, even September and definitely October. The plans call for an open stadium
– A city where Baseball is not #1 or #2 in their hearts
Yep, let’s put a franchise there. Smart move!
Coal tender
The Ohio Valley could use a major league presence. Memphis, Nashville, Louisville are good locations.
youngTank15
The rays should move to one of those cities if Tampa bay doesn’t work.
anthonyd4412
Totally agree. Nashville is growing like crazy
keysox
Nashville = A’s
Leave The Rays alone. Needs new owner and stadium.
Ctrl alt dlt
A’s AAA team used to be in Nashville, I don’t think they’d move there
DarkSide830
wouldn’t that be a good reason why they should? Sounds fans can see some of their favorite players from a few years ago.
talking baseball
I vote for the Louisville Sluggers, great name for a team. Maybe the bat company could be the owners.
Jordowith
The town that makes Louisville slugger should have a team
Colorado Red
To close to Cincinnati, The Original Professional team.
Louisville is way to close, no way the Reds will allow it.
Colorado Red
Vegas has a zillion tourists to support there teams there.
Montreal proved it cannot support a team.
OKC is not big enough.
tjmacari
I just moved to Utah (had to flee the Bay Area!), and there are actually already a fair number of A’s fans here, I agree they would do well in SLC!
norcalguardiansfan
I’ve never understood why mlb doesn’t jump on San Antonio. Its metro population is bigger than all of the markets mentioned. It only has one professional sports team in a state that has traditionally supported baseball. Las Vegas? Salt Lake? Not near as attractive as SA.
DarkSide830
so why does the mayor of Oakland hate sports teams anyway?
Lars MacDonald
It wasn’t the mayor – It was the city council.
The mayor and the county have been working with the A’s on the plan.
The city council is blocking it for some idiotic reason.
bigjonliljon
Again….. vote them out then
DarkSide830
ah, guess im mistaken. thought i read something to that effect before. maybe something older relating to the Raiders perhaps.
jorge78
The city council went around her on this one.
RootedInOakland
Life would’ve been so much easier if I was raised a SF fan
oaklandfan22
You’re telling me….
Yankees98
Manfred is out here trying to have a worse week than Adam Silver which certainly is something.
thetruth 2
He’s in the right.
Black Ace57
The team wants to privately finance their own stadium and STILL the city sues them. Oakland doesn’t deserve professional sports teams and soon won’t have a single one.
jorge78
It’s a complicated fight between the city, county and special interest groups…..
jdgoat
Who would fund a stadium in Las Vegas for them? Aren’t they already building a football stadium?
its_happening
They might have to play in the new minor league park and somehow add additional seating. That will be difficult. Capacity currently sits at about 10,000.
gobbledeez
A group of investors from NY just bought the Rio and Circus Circus and the rumors are that they will be demolished in favor of a new MLB Ballpark, according to LV newspapers.
jekporkins
That’s great but those two hotels aren’t anywhere near each other.
I could see them tearing either of them down though. Circus Circus is on the far end of the strip (lots of land there) and the Rio is right behind the center of the Strip (and Caesar’s Palace).
Colorado Red
One more tax on gambling.
Garmo87
Send to Portland. If not Salt Lake City. If you must stay in California, sent to Sacramento. All 3 are better locations for MLB.
Vizionaire
i think angels need an aaa team closer to home, too.
DarkSide830
each MLB team must. there is no reason WSH shoulf have to send its players to AA simply because their AAA squad is on the west coast.
istravin
Manfred is a danger to the sport
AllRiseForTheJudge
lol no he is not, Oakland forced the Raiders out by refusing to finance a new stadium to keep them in the city. Now, the A’s are willing to pay for a new stadium almost entirely with their own money and the city STILL sued them to block that.
Oakland is a danger to the sport. I don’t like Manfred for all the changes he’s making to the game, but he is 100% correct to force the city’s hand here. Either they back off and allow the A’s to stay or they draw their line in the sand and the team leaves. Period.
gobbledeez
Just extend BART. Problem solved.
jekporkins
Extend BART to where? Las Vegas?
mike156
Sports capitalism at its finest.
thetruth 2
Blame Oakland not Manfred. If we had Communism with the government deciding everything it would be far worse.
AllRiseForTheJudge
I don’t understand how the city of Oakland can block a team from spending its own money to purchase and develop land. Oakland clearly does not want to have professional sports; the Warriors left for a shiny new arena in SF, the Raiders were run out of town and the A’s are about three years away from leaving one way or the other.
Good on Manfred, effectively telling Oakland to back down or risk losing all that tax revenue.
murphydog
It’s just not the city. The state of Ca. gets involved with their fees, taxes and regulations.
bkbk
This strikes me as a massive failure of the political nature on both Lew Wolfe and MLB. The idea that they can’t find a palatable deal given the general corruption of local politics and enormous war chest of cash on both the team front as well as the league pot, it has to come down to greed. They are so used to getting a deal that ONLY benefits MLB that they wont budge on anything.
Also on my back of the envelope math the A’s are trash and depriving their fans of a team based on greed. If we consider attendance a wash in that they make what they spend on the team then the A’s are taking in:
2018 Rev Share : $118mm
2018 National Rev Share: $90mm
2018 Tv Deal: $48mm
Total rev: $256mm
MLB is quietly forcing an outcome they want, NOT trying to solve the problem you think.
A’s fans should riot.
CCCTL
Your information is pretty outdated, since Lew Wolff stepped out of the ownership a few years ago, and the A’s no longer receive ANY revenue sharing.
Asfan0780
How about manfred threaten the greedy giants who have blocked the A’s past attrmpts to build in the south bay and san jose
oaklandfan22
The whole situation is messed up. As a south bay native, I can’t stand the giants not allowing them to move down here.
Jean Matrac
My guess is you would feel differently if the situation were reversed. What if the A’s were in the Bay Area first? Territorial rights extend a radius of 75 miles meaning the South Bay would already have been in the A’s territory, when the Giants move to the Bay Area later. Now suppose the A’s are the more popular team in the South Bay .Remembering that the largest share of revenue is from TV. Why would the A’s allow the Giants to move to SJ thereby losing an incredible amount of money?
You may be an A’s fan living in the South Bay, but you are in the minority. SJ is the largest of the 3 cities, and the TV revenue generated there is immense. It’s not a matter of the Giants just not sharing. It’s the matter of a huge amount of money, and I guarantee you, the A’s would have done the same thing to the Giants if the situation were reversed.
metsie1
The A’s fans are the ones getting the shaft. The problem is very simple, they need a new Stadium. The current one is at end of life and is no longer fit for football or baseball. The fan support seems to be there. However, the big question as always is who pays for the stadium. Tax payers shouldn’t. Maybe they can kick in with some sort of assistance. Someone creative needs to step in but they are always in short supply. I suspect they will end up in Las Vegas. Too bad for the fans in Oakland.
CCCTL
A’s are 100% privately financing, for the 34254325435th time.
hansche98
Ew.
HalosHeavenJJ
there’s no place worse in the US to try and be in business than CA and no place in CA is worse than Oakland.
The owner of the A’s tried to get the city off the hook for about $150 million in bonds they can’t afford to pay in exchange for being granted the land, which sits next to a war zone, to build a new ballpark.
I could go on and on about the longstanding ineptitude of Oakland “leadership” but let’s just say I bet a good friend years ago that Oakland would completely screw up the stadium situation and see the A’s leave and I’m confident I’ll collect that money.
neurogame
The stadium in Vegas better have a roof with AC. Oh, and a working septic system would be ideal.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
It has a roof. Theres no way Vegas would have a mlb team without a stadium that had roof
Phillies2017
Manfred is an idiot
Oakland loves their teams. Vegas is mainly transplants, and doesn’t have the local population to build a sturdy fanbase.
youngTank15
Then why are Oakland’s teams leaving then?
Asfan0780
Raidera couldnt get a stadium. Warriors owner always wanted to move to SF once he bought the team. A’s owners wanted to move to fremont and san jose before oakland became last option
DarkSide830
dont give the city an excuse. this is soley a political issue. most sports teams realize the damaging effects and danger of relocation. clearly the team was content to stay but was shafted by the city.
DarkSide830
manfred is offering an out to a situation without another situation.
Louiebeans
I live in Las Vegas and I’m less then a mile from the Vegas Ball park near Downtown Summerlin and let me tell. Since the stadium is nice I been to one game and I’ll say this.
If the A’s ever move to Las Vegas I have a feeling the stadium will never be packed I don’t think there will be enough fans to pack the stadium but I could be wrong.
Hit4me
So it’d be the same as Oakland
Colorado Red
Lots of fans of other teams are there gambling.
Nice distraction from the tables.
They will have really good attendance.
sufferforsnakes
Play ball!
mjc71
Let the A’s. If the A’s want a new stadium. Then let them pay dor it. No more corporate welfare…
Hit4me
And the bars/restaurants/parking lots/employees of the team give you a blank stare
DarkSide830
what is that supposed to mean? if they dont get a new stadium it seems like they will move. then theyll all be out of jobs.
dylan1g
What about moving to Portland? This would make it easier and in my opinion is a better city to move to in terms of likeliness to beable to host a MLB team.
snotrocket
Millennial hipsters don’t like baseball.
lefty58
Either the A’s White Sox or Rays will be playing their home games in Vegas by 2014, and the other two are screwed.
champion1701
5 years ago? Ha hahahaha
seth3120
Seems like the A’s are trying really hard to make things in Oakland work. If the city can’t put forth some effort maybe it’s time to have a new stadium built elsewhere. I think the city has a decent fan base but you need the fringe fans to show up too and their stadium isn’t much of a draw to the fringe fan looking for an experience while watching a game
southpaw2153
A’s would go from the landfill known as Oakland Coliseum, with its 40 yards of foul territory, to the launching pad of Las Vegas. They’ll never win anything ever again. Lol.
Retract this franchise, along with Tampa and Miami. MLB is way too watered down, hence all the HR and K records being smashed. Smh
Hit4me
I’ll never understand you people that want less baseball.
DarkSide830
“blah blah watering down of talent”
its such a funny argument. when you add teams the benchmark goes down. what is the proper threshold for “major league talent?” newsflash: the critics never have good answers.
southpaw2153
If you think expanding MLB will make the product better, you need a mental evaluation.
I could go thru every teams 40-man roster and pull 20 guys from each that have no business being in the big leagues. You’re blind if you think MLB baseball is a quality product these days.
Christopher_Oriole
It would make calling up/calling down to/from the minors really easy for the A’s since their minor league team is already here in Vegas…
DarkSide830
i doubt the AAA team would stay in the same town.
yaow 2
Just out of curiosity with everyone mentioning other cities to move to, what would happen to the minor league teams already based in the cities there?
I imagine it would be a complicated process. If they stay, their attendance would plummet, if they move, they have stadiums (some newer than others) that go empty and hardly used.
Plus the ownership of those minor league teams would probably fight a MLB team moving in on their territory.
That’s got to be another thing to consider.
Hit4me
I don’t see it being a fight at all. How can a Milb team block a major league team? I don’t see it happening. In Chicago the Kane County Cougars do well even with the Cubs and White Sox down the road. If it doesn’t work the Aviators will find a new city who would be happy to have them.
DarkSide830
the team will have to move, but they probably get some compensation out of it due to their affiliation with the MLB.
Hit4me
As an outsider it sounds to me like MLB is countering threats with threats. I don’t want the A’s to leave Oakland but jeez, it’s not like they pack in huge crowds and now this? I’d consider leaving too. Crowds of less than 2 million every year (they’ve only topped 2 mil once since 2005). Now you’re getting blowback from the city?!Bye
Jake1972
The A’s should leave Oakland…
Cities that should have a team:
Memphis
Nashville
San Antonio
Albuquerque
Salt Lake City
Vancouver BC
Vegas
Sacramento
Oakland has shown they do not deserve a sports franchise except maybe a bowling league or Beer Softball League…
talking baseball
Sacramento ?????
They would draw even less, the Sacramento River Cats would draw more and they are the Giants AAA team.
its_happening
How about Omaha? Oklahoma City? New Orleans?
macstruts
I say move the A’s to Nashville and move one weak AL Central teams to the West.
I’m an Angel fan and having the Astros in the same division is bad enough. We’ll take KC, thank you very much.
Perksy
Why would they want three teams in central time zone play in the West? Makes no sense. Astros should go to the central, Cleveland to the east, and rays to Vegas in the west.
weo
Screw California! They might as well flee like the rest of the smart ones.
rycm131
Montreal would be an awesome place for a team! I bet they’d sell out every game
Jordowith
Attendance in Vegas would be iffy especially it being known for gambling partying and other attractions that’s what the tourists go for not necessarily sports of course you got the locals but who knows with them
Doug Dueck
I would think that attendance in Vegas would be excellent. Go see your favorite team play and stay and gamble and party. Kill two birds with one stone as it were.
andrewgauldin
Have you seen the attendance numbers for the Vegas Golden Knights?
Perksy
The Rays should move to Vegas since they don’t draw in Tampa. Then move them to the AL West, and either the Rangers or Astros to the AL central. Then move either Cleveland or Detroit to the AL east. Time zone wise it would make more sense. You have two teams in the AL West right now that play in central time zone.
Jordowith
Unless the potential DH in both league’s happen
stratcrowder
Yeah. Move them to Vegas and reinstate Pete Rose dammit.
Jordowith
Unless the potential DH in both league’s happen
angt222
Would be a shame to see A’s leave Oakland. Instead I’d rather see a team like the Rays move to a baseball city like Montreal.
snakqadj
Athletics should move to San Antonio, They could get a fanbase of both Austin and San Antonio, and their revenue would be big. I’m not a genius but that’s a suggestion. Because of a third possible AL West team in Texas, they should switch one of the Texas teams to the NL and switch the Padres or Diamondbacks to the AL.