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Manager Notes: Angels, Maddon, Beltran

By George Miller | October 6, 2019 at 8:53pm CDT

Former Cubs manager Joe Maddon is set to interview for the Angels’ job in the coming days, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. Maddon has long been rumored as a leading candidate to succeed Brad Ausmus, and Rosenthal now reports that the feeling is mutual, naming the Halos as Maddon’s top choice. Of course, that two-way interest is at least partially motivated by the extensive history between organization and manager: Maddon spent time as an interim manager with the Angels in 1996 and 1999, and while he didn’t keep that position long-term, Maddon would spend more than thirty years with the Halos organization before departing for Tampa Bay. Maddon should have plenty of interest from other clubs with managerial vacancies, so if the Angels are indeed his ideal destination, he could have his pick of the available jobs. Surely, the Angels would be remiss if they didn’t interview other candidates, so it’s by no means a foregone conclusion, but Maddon to Los Angeles feels like a match made in heaven. USA Today’s Bob Nightengale cites the Padres as another club that has caught Maddon’s attention, and expects the two sides to arrange a meeting in the near future.

  • Former All-Star Carlos Beltran has not been shy about his desire to manage for a big-league club, but he’s waiting on the right situation to present itself, writes Nathalie Alonso of MLB.com. Beltran, who was a candidate to manage the Yankees before Aaron Boone came out ahead, joined the Bombers’ front office as a special adviser prior to the 2018 season. Beltran was recently reported to have declined an interview for the open Padres’ manager position, though there hasn’t been any explanation given. The Mets, who recently fired Mickey Callaway, have also been rumored as a potential fit for Beltran. While there’s been chatter that an allegedly frosty relationship between the ex-Met and team COO Jeff Wilpon would impede such a hire, Beltran said that he would “have to listen” if the Mets came calling. While that doesn’t indicate that he’s clamoring for the job, Beltran seems reluctant to rule out a potential reunion with his former team. As Beltran says, his focus is of course on the contending Yankees for the time being, which means that more clarity might not come to his situation until the end of October. That said, he’s certainly a name to watch as teams seek out their next skipper.
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  1. Aaron Sapoznik

    6 years ago

    Joe Maddon and Gerrit Cole to the Angels are my two biggest locks of the offseason.

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    • bluemarc

      6 years ago

      let’s hope your correct

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      • Aaron Sapoznik

        6 years ago

        You may not hope so much once you’ve seen “Genius” Joe firsthand. Cole is another story altogether. Hopefully he won’t catch the injury bug that has afflicted the Angels rotation since the arrival of Mike Trout to Anaheim.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          6 years ago

          You mean “Genius” Theo, don’t you?

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        • wordonthestreet

          6 years ago

          Oh Aaron I think the Angels have seen Joe Maddon first hand much more than any other team and they like what they see! As does ever other team but the Cubs.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          6 years ago

          They saw Maddon before he had a chance to reinvent the notion of baseball managing. He began that in Tampa and perfected it with his move to the National League and the Cubs. If you don’t believe me, just ask Joe!

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        • jdodson1822

          6 years ago

          Angels fans did from 99-06 when he was a bench coach. He was a big influencer when he was with Sosh

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        • cubsfanbudman1908

          6 years ago

          You mean the guy that is 2 for 2 in bringing World Series titles to an organization? Doubtful, he definitely meant Joe.

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        • Steve Phillips

          6 years ago

          Genius Joe would be an ideal manager for the Halos

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        • gmetwagner

          6 years ago

          He did not win 2 titles. He won the AL Pennant in 08 and the WS in 2016.

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        • rez2405 2

          6 years ago

          Technically he did already win a WS with the angels in 2002

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        • mlbtranom

          6 years ago

          One thing is for sure…no “Genius” Hahn

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        • ChiSoxCity

          6 years ago

          Giolito, Moncada, Kopech, Jimenez, Anderson, Robert, Madrigal and Cease. All studs acquired in short order and MLB ready. No other GM in baseball has done a better job than Hahn during the timeframe.

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        • alproof

          6 years ago

          If Kopech is ready for spring training, then the Chisox should be ready for their Astros-Twins type of challenge. They drafted well (e.g., Madrigal), but of more importance in their case was the trading of vets for blue chippers. The Tigers (the inept GM Al Avila) traded their vets mostly for nobodies in return. The Tigers draftee pitchers are in AA-AAA right now (Mize, Faedo, Manning, Burrows, et al). They don’t have much hitting on the farm, but hopefully what they do have (in particular their 2019 top pick, whose name escapes me right now) will progress quickly. Watch for the 2020 Chisox challenge of the Twins, and maybe by 2022 the Tigers will be in the chase.

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        • oldleftylong

          6 years ago

          Riley Greene is the Tigers 2019 #1 and, he will advance quickly.

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        • cgbeauchamp1958

          6 years ago

          Joe Maddon never managed in Tampa because there is no team in Tampa.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          6 years ago

          Technically speaking, there is no MLB team in Tampa Bay either although I would imagine there are a few rays swimming about.

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      • sheff86

        6 years ago

        Why? So Cole can have TJ surgery?

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        • Eta34

          6 years ago

          Witty. Original. Good stuff. Thank you for this incredible contribution to our community.

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    • Philliesfan4life

      6 years ago

      Thats my lock as well, Give him 6-7 years 225-230 million. Possibly another arm like Wheeler or Odorizzi to go with Canning & Ohtani and Heaney, thats a solid 6 right there

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      • GeoKaplan

        6 years ago

        Not to be a dick, but that’s 5. Did you have an outside arm in mind for #6, or someone in-house?

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        • Vizionaire

          6 years ago

          a few that experienced in mlb but still needs some more sesoning in aaa.

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        • findingnimmo

          6 years ago

          Geo, if u have to start a sentence off with that than it’s usually best to stop and delete it and move on.

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        • compassrose

          6 years ago

          I hate to defend an angel fan but you didn’t count Cole in your count Geo. I had to take a second look but figured it out pretty quick.

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        • rez2405 2

          6 years ago

          findingnimmo, he does have a point though as I was wondering who was the 6th

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        • Ace of Diamonds

          6 years ago

          it’s 5, he said or Odorizzi not and Odorizzi…

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    • texas_slim85

      6 years ago

      LMAO!

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    • Deleted Userrrrr

      6 years ago

      You mean like how Patrick Corbin signing with the Yankees was a lock?

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      • lavey

        6 years ago

        Cole is already on record as saying pitching for the Angels and having his family and friends attend a bunch of games would be a dream come true. I don’t think Corbin went that far with the Yankees. Although, if the Angels offer 20M or more less than what someone else does, we probably won’t get him.

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        • Jbigz12

          6 years ago

          Wouldn’t say it’s a lock. If Cole picks a California team it’s highly likely he’s already leaving money on the table due to their tax rate. For that reason I wouldn’t expect much of a discount if he does truly want to Go to LA.

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        • ElMagoN9ne

          6 years ago

          Gerrit Cole isnt going to LA. If anything he’ll go to Anaheim with outside chance of going to the Cubs. No chance he goes to the Dodgers

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    • FishyHalo

      6 years ago

      If Strasburg doesn’t take his option. I’d like Steven more than Cole.

      Besides that, we need more than one front line starter. We need multiple quality starters first.

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      • jdodson1822

        6 years ago

        Strasburg is 2 years older and a lot less durable. Both will cost a draft pick – Cole is the better option

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        • FishyHalo

          6 years ago

          I’d rather lock in Strasburg for 3-4 than get Cole for 6-7. I really like Cole Rn as a front of the line starter. I just think when he falls off, it’ll be like off cliff rather than a gradual decline.

          Coles the best pitcher on the market next year regardless. I just don’t think anybody but Cole wins on a 6 year+ deal.

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        • Ace of Diamonds

          6 years ago

          you mean like Verlander, Ryan, and Johnson did?

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    • grndslam

      6 years ago

      You can have them both

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    • imgman09

      6 years ago

      No chance Cole,you can have Maddon

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    • Steve Phillips

      6 years ago

      Yep

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    • 5toolMVP

      6 years ago

      Nothing with Eppler and elite free agents is a lock. My guess is Eppler probably starts off 5/175 or 5/180 and after he signs elsewhere says we had an offer in the mix but it just wasn’t enough… Gotta hope Arte steps in and writes a fat check for Cole. Pretty sure it’s gotta be $210-230m

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    • PopeMarley

      6 years ago

      Who said comedy was dead.

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    • lowtalker1

      6 years ago

      You misspelled padres

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    • ElMagoN9ne

      6 years ago

      Joe.Maddon and Anthony Rendon to Anaheim

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      • lowtalker1

        6 years ago

        Lol rendon? Nah he will probably end up in Texas. Cole probably goes to San Diego.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          6 years ago

          I wouldn’t sleep on the Cubs signing free agent Anthony Rendon. Kris Bryant and his agent Scott Boras are reluctant to accept a contract extension from the Cubs so they may offer those dollars to Rendon instead and trade their slugging 3B this offseason to address other needs like pitching and maybe a leadoff hitter.

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  2. Padre Mark

    6 years ago

    Cole will be a Padre!

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      6 years ago

      The Padres were my backup plan for Joe Maddon if things went south (lol) with the Angels. Cole was my third choice for San Diego following the Angels and then the Dodgers. Both Maddon and Cole should be employed somewhere in southern California when all is said and done but I’m still sticking with the Halos as the top destination for both.

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      • jorge78

        6 years ago

        The Dodgers don’t do those long bloated contracts anymore. The FO is very analytical…..

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          6 years ago

          Maybe Andrew Friedman just can’t shed the small market gene that Rays owner Stuart Sternberg passed on to him while in Tampa.

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        • Vizionaire

          6 years ago

          the owners group is too much in debt.

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        • padreforlife

          6 years ago

          Bingo

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      • mdogger12

        6 years ago

        Padres…..get real..Padres will go cheap again and hire loser Ausmus

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        • Ejemp2006

          6 years ago

          And sign both MadBum and Porcello. The Padres have to sign at least 50 million in bad contracts each offseason or else the other teams will be upset.

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        • padreforlife

          6 years ago

          Ausmus right up Padre alley lose who can fire after 1 year

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    • mrpadre19

      6 years ago

      I wish….but highly unlikely.
      “Every” team will show interest in Cole.
      Highly doubt we would have the highest offer first of all or that the Padres would be his first choice secondly.
      He can literally pick which team he plays for because every offer will be record setting.

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      • Georgiajeff

        6 years ago

        Every team will show an interest and then it comes time to pay and you are down to a handful of teams. For all we know he will stay in Houston.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          6 years ago

          The Astros will be up against the luxury tax threshold without Gerrit Cole next year. With him they will be in deep waters.

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    • wesside705

      6 years ago

      Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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    • cgbeauchamp1958

      6 years ago

      Dream on!

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  3. Murphi Kennedy

    6 years ago

    I don’t think Cole is a lock but Maddon is… I can see us just missing out like we did on Corbin

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      6 years ago

      Arte Moreno will get things right this time, at least with Cole. He may regret Maddon.

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      • texas_slim85

        6 years ago

        LMAO @ Arte Moreno getting things right

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        • Vizionaire

          6 years ago

          LYAO!

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        • FishyHalo

          6 years ago

          This take, is the hottest take.

          Guy couldnt find baseball instinct’s if it bit him in the butt.

          Like I keep saying… the Halos are at least.
          2 pretty good pitchers, 1 setup man, 1 closer and one shifty utility man away from competing in the division.

          That’s it… well yeah that’s it….. Eppler has to be creative this offseason or we will have wasted the greatest talent in franchise history.
          If only Trout came up in 2008

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        • 5toolMVP

          6 years ago

          Definitely need 2 pretty good SP, Cole and another would go a long way. The setup situation is probably helped with a stronger 1-5 rotation if they can all get to the 7th inning consistently.

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        • white mamba

          6 years ago

          And a catcher

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        • macstruts

          6 years ago

          The Angels had a pretty good closer last year and they appear to have quality setup men returning.

          Shifty utility man. Cozart?

          Two pitchers, they are getting three, Ohtani, Canning and Heaney.

          What the Angels need is one true Ace and they need to stay relatively healthy.

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      • 5toolMVP

        6 years ago

        Angels are plenty familiar with Maddon, he was here 31 years! What’s to regret? In 11 seasons managing he’s had NINE 90+ win seasons. The Cubs failures of 2019 fall on Theo more than Maddon.

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        • mike127

          6 years ago

          Exactly, Stoll—and those 90 win seasons were with Tampa and Cubs. The Cubs won 73 games in 2014—73!!! They won 97 the next year with Maddon. Maddon is SO far ahead of the game it’s ridiculous. It was Maddon who started to deploy the shift in Tampa on a regular basis—that has completely changed the game. He was the first to bat his “best” player second—now guess where the following all hit on a regular or have for an extended period of time” Trout, Judge, Goldschmidt, Altuve, Votto…..

          The only thing he hasn’t been able to manage the last fifteen season was the things that turned out poorly for Theo of the last two seasons (don’t want to say mistakes as Joe would say “just because it didn’t work out, doesn’t mean it was wrong.”)

          I have listened to Joe religiously in his postgame interviews over the years and his explanations on things and his thought process on two-three-four batters ahead is baseball “genius”.

          Any one of us knows the old righty-righty, lefty-lefty matchup stuff. What we don’t know is what reliever is tired, who is sick, who has something nagging that nobody else needs to know.

          The team that gets Maddon will be alright—may not win 100 games, but will be just fine.

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        • cgbeauchamp1958

          6 years ago

          The Rays do not play in Tampa nor do they represent the City of Tampa only.

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    • padreforlife

      6 years ago

      Whoever gives Cole the most $ is the lock

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    • macstruts

      6 years ago

      You are correct. Ausmus was fired because Maddon became available. Moreno though long and hard about brining in Maddon last time he was a free agent. My guess is he regrets not pulling the trigger then.

      As for Cole. I think the Angels will make him a great offer, maybe even the best offer, then move on. Boras wont take it.

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      • Ejemp2006

        6 years ago

        Cole will ask for a record setting contract. The first team to give it to him, will win his services.
        If the Yankees can’t bring home a WS title, then no one will out bid them for Cole because all of their recent discipline will go out the window in response to the fan base outrage.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          6 years ago

          Boras won’t accept the first record setting contract. He will ask for more and if no other team emerges he will have that first team bidding against themselves as he did with A-Rod and Chris Davis.

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  4. LongTimeListener1stTimecaller

    6 years ago

    Mets should hire Beltrán as the manager & Joe Espada as the bench coach

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    • 54scooterb

      6 years ago

      I’m thinking Espada only changes uniform if hired to manage somewhere.

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    • The Infinity Gauntlet

      6 years ago

      Espada isn’t leaving The Astros unless he gets a Manager Job. As long as he stays there he will continue to draw Interest as a Manager.

      With the amount of Manager openings they have this year, he could get a job this year.

      It’s also worth noting that he started working as a Hitting coach in the Minor Leagues in 2006. He got into the MLB as a coach in 2010. At the MLB Level he worked as a 3rd base coach & an infield coach before getting the chance to be the Bench coach for AJ Hinch in Houston. He has coached the Puerto Rican baseball teams in the World Baseball Classic. He has managed Winter baseball teams. He also served as a special assistant to the Yankees GM for a year in 2014.

      Carlos Beltran has also served as a Special Assistant to The Yankees GM for a year. He certainly has done things I’m leaving out. The point is Espada has much more Experience coaching than Beltran. Why would he want to mentor a Rookie Manager & be Beltran’s sidekick?

      Espada can make a strong case that Beltran should be his bench coach. IF You want Espada it will take offering him to be the Manager.

      If You want Beltran, I’d recommend an Older Bench coach. Preferably with Manager Experience. Im not dissing Beltran, he could be great. If he skips from where he is now directly into Managing at the MLB Level he is going to need a Mentor.

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  5. colonel220901

    6 years ago

    The angels are making a mistake if they sign Cole, one player doesn’t change a 90 loss team to a 90 win team, having 115 million committed to trout, pujols, upton, Simmons, and cozart, not too mention the 14 million option for Calhoun is not recipe for success. Adding 30 million for Cole will just make things worse for having a balanced team

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    • wesside705

      6 years ago

      Calhoun has a $14m club option for 2020 that the Halos reportedly don’t plan on picking up.

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    • Vizionaire

      6 years ago

      angels surely can spend!

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      6 years ago

      The Angels are not picking up Kole Calhoun’s $14M option. They will buy him out for $1M and then potentially sign him for half that amount when MLB front offices once again pass on another 32-year old corner outfielder with declining offensive and defensive metrics who is coming off a career high SO/PA number in 2019. Additionally, the Angels have a two-way international superstar who just may be the greatest bargain in professional sports.

      As for Gerrit Cole, Arte Moreno won’t have to outbid his other big spending brethren this winter for his services. They just have to be in the ballpark. Cole will be paid handsomely by the Angels and be more than happy to return home to Newport Beach and make the 20-minute commute to Angel Stadium of Anaheim. He will be thrilled to BBQ and drink beer with his neighbor Mike Trout and have some additional laughs with the paparazzi when they invite Shohei Ohtani over to join in the fun.

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      • FishyHalo

        6 years ago

        If Angels can get Cole for a comfortable amount of years we’d take it.
        Knowing Garrett cole and his agent.
        He’ll land somewhere else, where they’re willing to give him the extra year or that extra $5m annually.

        Angel problems go beyond a front of the line starter.

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    • trident

      6 years ago

      This is a valid point. Their pitching staff is so bad they need at least two of Cole/Wheeler/Bumgardner/Odorozzi/Ryu to even be considered a contender. That’s a lot of money and way too much risk IMO. If Cole goes down with TJ or just sucks (a la CJ Wilson) that is the last thing the Angels need now. Shore up the farm first and supplement that with top tier guys like the Astros are doing.

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      • Vizionaire

        6 years ago

        angels pitching was not bad but inured.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          6 years ago

          I bet that koolaid tastes sweet…cold too.

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        • Vizionaire

          6 years ago

          hope you get to experience all those injuries angels pitchers suffered all at once!

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          6 years ago

          The White Sox had their fair share of injuries to starting pitchers in 2019, including losing Michael Kopech and Carlos Rodon to TJ surgery. Dane Dunning, one of their top SP prospects who was close to being MLB ready also had the same procedure last spring. The rehab process will carryover into 2020 for Rodon and Dunning. Kopech should be fully healthy when pitchers and catchers report to camp in February.

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        • FishyHalo

          6 years ago

          If you look at the numbers against teams that are division leaders/ wildcard leaders. our ERA was that bad.

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        • rez2405 2

          6 years ago

          Yeah but did anybody die?

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      • 5toolMVP

        6 years ago

        Lmao “like the Astros are doing” yeah don’t forget they had a 4-6 year run of 90-100 LOSS seasons to build up that farm with elite talent not to mention trading vets for more farm depth.

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    • macstruts

      6 years ago

      With all due respect. It’s not one player. It’s several players. It’s Ohtani and Canning and Upton and Adell and Simmons. You add Cole to that and another pitcher and yeah, it easily could.

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    • Vizionaire

      6 years ago

      it was an intentional reconstruction.

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  6. wesside705

    6 years ago

    Semantics. Maddon will be the Halos new manager by this time next week. Book it.

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  7. wesside705

    6 years ago

    Getting Maddon triples the Angels chances of getting Cole – who himself said it would be fun to play for the Angels before he was traded to the Astros. I don’t think he’s a lock, not when the Halos will be bidding against the Phillies, Cubs & Yankees, but Cole ending up a Angel has a better chance if Maddon is at the helm

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    • wordonthestreet

      6 years ago

      Just like Lester signing with the Cubs after he saw Joe Maddon sign with the Cubs first.

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      • Aaron Sapoznik

        6 years ago

        Right, Tom Ricketts wallet and Jon Lester’s connection to Theo Epstein from his Red Sox days had nothing to do with it. Once again, it was all Joe!

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        • yourcubreporter

          6 years ago

          Actually, yeah. Lester himself said it, getting a manager like Maddon showed him the Cubs were serious.

          The courtship and the huge contract didn’t hurt, either.

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        • 5toolMVP

          6 years ago

          Lol someone has a grudge against Joe.

          The thing is when a team, such as the Cubs or Angels signs a successful manager like Maddon it sends a message to the fans, free agents, player agents etc that the team is serious about making upgrades/ winning etc. If & when Maddon signs with the Angels…teams, players, free agents and their agents will take notice. All of the sudden they go from 90 loss team keeping status quo (had the kept Ausmus) to looking like a team wanting to make moves to win. And face it Maddon has an excellent track record with TB and CHC.

          Not to be overlooked, but signing away Cole from the Astros would be a huge loss for them and a huge plus for the Angels within the division.

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        • wesside705

          6 years ago

          Lester has said repeatedly, even again last week, that Joe was the single biggest reason he signed with the Cubs.

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  8. megaj

    6 years ago

    Should be interesting if Maddon takes the Angels gig. He has been accused of taking too much credit for managing super young and talented teams like the Rays and Cubs while coming up short in managing pitching staffs, playing small ball, and stressing the fundamentals. Other than Trout, Angels are far less talented so lets he if is actually the “genius” his supporters keep saying he is.

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    • Dodgethis

      6 years ago

      He’s far from genius. Pretty obvious he’s a clown show. Any moron could of won with that cubs team. Cubs win in spite of Maddon, not because of him.

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      • johnrealtime

        6 years ago

        Any moron could have taken the Rays to the WS too? What mangers do you think are geniuses? Everyone seems to hate managers but have praise for very few. When they manage well then the players get the praise and when things don’t go well, the blame falls on the manager

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        • padreforlife

          6 years ago

          That was over 10 years ago. Maddon managed WS like amateur only reason he won was Chapman bailed him out.

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        • Deleted Userrrrr

          6 years ago

          Chapman almost lost the World Series for Chicago…

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        • johnrealtime

          6 years ago

          Skipped over the rest of what I said. How many managers have been to the WS twice over that period of time? How many teams that are better than the 2016 cubs fall short?

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        • MajorLeague79

          6 years ago

          Ned Yost and the Royals were in the WS ‘14 and ‘15.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          6 years ago

          Chapman won the WS for the cubs. The rest of their bullpen pitched like trash the entire series. Joe used Chapman for multiple innings because it was their only chance.

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        • padreforlife

          6 years ago

          Almost lost Yea coming back from rain delay isn’t that good lol. He was only 2-0 in WS. That year Oct 26-23 pitches, Oct 28-17 pitches, 30-42 pitches, 1-20 pitches, 2-35 pitches. 137 pitches 8 days high leverage yea almost lost lol

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        • Deleted Userrrrr

          6 years ago

          Chapman came this close to blowing the WS for the Cubs with that home run he gave up to Rajai Davis. But then Ben Zobrist bailed him out.

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      • ChiSoxCity

        6 years ago

        Dodgethis, one can say the same thing about your manager—stacked team “any moron” could win with. Well, what happened?

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      • FishyHalo

        6 years ago

        “Anybody could’ve won with the Cubs team”

        When was the last time a Cubs team won a World Series before Maddon managed?

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  9. megaj

    6 years ago

    Cole will go to who pays him as he is yet another Boras client. Why would he care about Maddon who has always struggled with pitching staffs? Cubs need an ace probably more than any other team that has postseason expectations at the moment so they will also be in on the bidding. Cubs will also be looking at picking up Bumgarner (IF SF doesn’t extend the QO)as he would fit the vacated role of Cole Hamels perfectly. Most of the Cubs FA money is going to be spent on pitching this off season. Position players like Bryant will be traded for a max value return of prospects to try and kickstart their depleted farm system.

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    • johnrealtime

      6 years ago

      Not every boras client goes to the highest bidder. Boras gets them offers and the players choose where they will play

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  10. jim stem

    6 years ago

    Has Beltran managed or even coached at any level?

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  11. Deleted Userrrrr

    6 years ago

    I’m sick of people on here trying to play the hometown card and just act like a guy is guaranteed to sign with this team or that team. We saw the same thing with Patrick Corbin and the Yankees last year and it wasn’t any more true then.

    So Cole fell out of the womb in So. Cal sand. Great. Pay him or move on.

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    • johnrealtime

      6 years ago

      The Angels or Padres are logical fits for Cole aside from where he was born. Doesn’t make him a lock to go there but it does make sense. Both teams have the need, will have cash, and seem to aim to contend in the short term. The Cubs and the Yankees figure to get involved as well

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      6 years ago

      Gerrit Cole will get paid plenty by the Angels. There also might be a difference when the player can maintain his native residence in Newport Beach year-round while making a 20-minute commute to work in the summer for home games. Clearly the situation with Patrick Corbin was less similar in terms of the Yankees. Corbin was a fan of the team growing up but was born and raised in upstate NY outside of Syracuse.

      Ironically enough, Cole also grew up a Yankee fan because his father was raised in Syracuse before moving the family to Newport Beach where the pitcher was born. So, perhaps the Yankees will outbid everybody and play to Cole’s emotions with that card. That said, Cole was raised and went to school in Orange County, then stayed local to attend UCLA where he met his wife Amy who is Giant’s SS Brandon Crawford’s sister. Family, location and allegiance could play a deciding role here with the dollars being relatively equal.

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    • trident

      6 years ago

      Same people saying Trout was going to Philly to be close to home.

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      • macstruts

        6 years ago

        I don’t think so. Angel fans knew that Trout liked it here. Different people are saying Cole will sign here.

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      • Deleted Userrrrr

        6 years ago

        Knowing what we know now, Trout was never going to leave LAA. The Angels are a complete trainwreck and he signed there through his age 38 season regardless.

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        • Aaron Sapoznik

          6 years ago

          Complete trainwreck? There are plenty of teams in MLB who would love to have this eras greatest player in his prime along with a young two-way international superstar to build their club around. Adding Cole to the mix can only help the Angels train move full steam ahead.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          6 years ago

          You’re no Sox fan, that’s for sure.

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        • trident

          6 years ago

          Is Strasburg coming home to SD? Or should he avoid that trainwreck?

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        • Deleted Userrrrr

          6 years ago

          @AaronSapoznik Those two alone aren’t enough. What else they got?

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      • cookmeister 2

        6 years ago

        Trout was 2 years from free agency.. Cole is a month away

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  12. FishyHalo

    6 years ago

    The angels will land Mookie Betts the day Snoop dog quits smoking weed.

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    • Georgiajeff

      6 years ago

      LMAO. That’s awesome

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  13. AngelDiceClay

    6 years ago

    least The only way Maddon picks the Padres over The Angels is if he prefers NL style of managing. The Angels and Padres are basically in the same boat. They both need at 2 good SP’s. A good catcher. And they need to decide what to do with the corner OF positions. They won’t bring Adell up until May if he’s ready.The Infield is another thing.They need to Fletcher either at SS or 2B. Decide to keep or trade Simmons or La Stella. I don’t know what it’s going to take to sign Cole.

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    • ryanw-2

      6 years ago

      In addition to starting pitching, they only need to decide on RF. Upton will play LF as he should. I think it’s a little weird how freaked out Angels fans are about him when 2019 was only his first injury-plagued/bad season. He’s the best left fielder they’ve had literally since GA. But that’s typical of Angels fans to run a player who came from somewhere else out of town at the first sign of trouble. If they let Calhoun go, Goodwin can hold the fort in RF if they need to wait a bit longer for Adell. They also need to keep Simmons and LaStella. They have good bench depth right now. All they really need is starting pitching. That can even push their young pitchers who are clearly not going to be big league starters into durable relievers.

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    • padreforlife

      6 years ago

      Only way is if Padres offer a lot more dough than Angels and that’s not happening

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  14. SixGuns

    6 years ago

    OK, we get it: Maddon is a candidate for the Angels. It would be better to wait until there is actual news to report than saying the same thing over and over again.

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    • bencole

      6 years ago

      It’s a RUMORS site bro…

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    • wordonthestreet

      6 years ago

      Well I think this time they are confirming the meeting is this week.

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  15. marinerfan

    6 years ago

    As a Mariners fan, we all need Cole to sign in some other division. Please.

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  16. parkers

    6 years ago

    It is almost comical to read where people are presenting Beltran as a managerial candidate. I thought that the reason Callaway was a poor choice was because of his lack of experience.

    They than talk about Espada as either a manager or bench coach. I thought the Mets had that type of situation with Callaway and Riggleman.

    It’s great to know that Keith Hernandez doesn’t want to spend the 12 hour days managing requires. After all it is much easier managing from the booth where he can impart to us how stupid managers like Callaway are. He even sometimes booth manages the other teams as well. Why should he have to deal directly with the players on the field. He has better things to do with his time. He lets us know what should be done and doesn’t even have to face the media when what he says doesn’t work out.

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  17. padreforlife

    6 years ago

    Explanation for not granting interviews umm let’s say he doesn’t want to to join the circus that is Padres

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  18. greg7274

    6 years ago

    I’m not sold on his qualifications as a manager to begin with. So I’m not actually lobbying for Beltran to get the Kansas City job.
    But its amusing to read this knowing he spent just as many years in KC as he did with the Mets… pretty much the same amount of ABs and games…
    But the whole mention of Beltran is about him spurning the Padres, and would he fit with the Mets.
    The coastal bias in sports coverage is deafening sometimes.

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  19. seth3120

    6 years ago

    I thought more of Maddon before he joined the Cubs when he was winning with the Rays young players and limited payroll. He won a WS since leaving but otherwise underachieved. Meanwhile the Rays are in the playoffs without Maddon. Not a perfect way to judge a manager but I’m not sure if every manager who wins a title is automatically great

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    • wordonthestreet

      6 years ago

      Maddon also won the pennant with the Rays. So the Rays made the playoffs as a wildcard 5 years after Maddon left? So what does that have to do with Maddon. Maddon never went 4 years in a row in Tampa with no playoffs.

      Maddon did more than win a championship. He won in Chicago when no one else alive did do. He took the Rays to the World Series (much better than just being a wildcard contender currently that you seem impressed by) Maddon took the Cubs the post season 4 times in a row! Who else did that. He took them to the NLCS 3 times IN A ROW. He is also a 3 time manager of the year and he did not even win that award when he won the historic championship in Chicago!

      I agree just winning a championship alone does not make you an all time great but Maddon is an all time great. He is a future hall of fame manager who was not appreciated by Theo or many of the Cubs fans and that is to bad. What a shame. Maddon was the golden age of Chicago Cubs baseball.

      There is a reason he is the hottest managerial candidate out there. He will win a championship with the Angels.

      Maddon was the best manager in the history of the Rays. The best manager in the history of the Cubs. The best manager in the history of ever team he has managed. He will have to win one or more to keep that going as manager of the Angels.

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      • cgbeauchamp1958

        6 years ago

        Incorrect. The Rays do not play in Tampa.

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    • wordonthestreet

      6 years ago

      Seth one reason you may have thought more is that is a common perception among fans. Almost all fans see faults in the manager of the team they follow the ever day. Just follow the posts here during the season all fan bases are critical of their manager and its almost always handling pitchers. The managers of teams we do not follow but for their teams won loss record always seem pretty good. Lol.

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  20. beerman

    6 years ago

    Why would Cole want to go to the Angels to lose? Put money and location to the side for a second assuming he will get the same money from a million different teams. If Cole was to have the same exact season next season for the Angels that he had with the Stros they still would have missed the playoffs by a million games. If the Stros offer him a similar offer that the Angels do you think he would not take it? Knowing that he would be on a team to keep on having a chance to win titles? I get the premise of playing with the best player in baseball. But last time I looked the Stros got quite a few good players to be playing with also.

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    • rocky7

      6 years ago

      Cole, with his current representation of Boras will go to whoever gives him the most years and dollars. His professed “love” for Orange County should not be misconstrued as his willingness to give a hometown discount to the Angels….if Moreno offers the most, he’ll get his dream and so will Halos fans….however they have more holes to fill if they want to make it to the WS, than just signing Cole.

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    • ryanw-2

      6 years ago

      FYI, adding valuable players adds wins. That’s why teams sign and trade players.

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  21. ElMagoN9ne

    6 years ago

    Anaheim is signing one big name player. I think it will be Anthkny Rendon. Anaheim needs more offense and a 3td baseman. He would be perfect. Otanti, Rendon, Trout 2-4 is a scary lineup. Plus Pujols at the 6th spot. He’s 41 now but he can still rake
    He’s only 100 home runs from being the home run king. 3 years left he has a legit chance to pass hank aaron

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      6 years ago

      Albert Pujols is 99 HR’s shy of Hank Aaron and 106 short of Barry Bonds. If he can somehow manage to pass Aaron he ought to muster enough to top Bonds as well rather than settling for an asterisk next to his name.

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