In what has perhaps been baseball’s most nebulous search for a new manager, MLB Network’s Jon Heyman tweets some context on the Pirates’ hunt for Clint Hurdle’s replacement. Diamondbacks vice president of player development Mike Bell and Phillies player information coordinator Sam Fuld are both of interest to the Pirates. To be clear, though, there’s no indication that either will sit down for an interview, but the organization’s interest in each of some note. Add those two names to a list that also includes Twins bench coach Derek Shelton and former Rangers skipper Jeff Banister, both of whom were previously known to be in consideration.
Both Bell and Fuld have been tied to managerial openings in the past, and Bell is currently reported to be a candidate with the Mets as well. Fuld is just 37 years old and played in the Majors as recently as 2015. He’s been in his current position in Philadelphia since late 2017, serving as a sort of liaison between the front office and players. In that sense, he seems to fit the mold of the industry’s ideal manager in 2019: young, inexperienced, analytically-inclined, a good communicator, and relatively cheap to boot. Fuld earned an interview last offseason with the Blue Jays, with The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal reporting at the time that the young Fuld “made a strong impression” on Toronto brass, though he ultimately withdrew his name from consideration.
Bell, meanwhile, will be recognized for his roots in a distinguished baseball family: his father Buddy Bell enjoyed a fine playing and managing career, while Mike’s brother David manages the Pirates’ division-rival Reds. He interviewed with the Orioles and Rangers last offseason, so teams have been eyeing him for a bit now. Bell has been with the Diamondbacks for more than a decade, previously serving as the director of player development before he was promoted to his current role three years ago. As such, he can claim at least some of the credit for the homegrown talent that has climbed through the Arizona ranks in recent years.
It would seem that the Pirates are considering a wide variety of candidates to be the franchise’s first new manager since 2011; the organization doesn’t appear to be confining its search to a particular archetype or background, which could pay off as the team also seeks to fill out the remainder of the coaching staff. That seems a fair approach for a team that hasn’t had to undergo a managerial change in nearly a decade, especially considering the scrutiny under which general manager Neal Huntington has found himself of late. Pittsburgh is home to what may be the Majors’ most confounding managerial vacancy, with relatively little being reported regarding the organization’s hiring process. As details emerge, though, the Pirates job will certainly offer its fair share of intrigue to this offseason’s storylines.
HarveyD82
depends on who costs less
frustratedpittsburghpiratesfan
Nutting will go the cheap route. He is so stinking stingy!!
TJECK109
Not sure I’d want my first managing job to be in Pittsburgh. They are going to end up with someone desperate to get back in the dugout not someone eager for their first shot
phamdownbytheriver
Why not? If you can reverse their downhill trend, that’s a major accomplishment. Anyone can manage the Yankees. I think that he’d be an excellent choice. Know him from his days in Tampa.
elgarysanchino24
You’re Kiddin about your Yankee Comment Cause if you Really think that then you know Nothing about The Game
sufferforsnakes
You do realize the scarcity of this particular job, right?
heater
Exactly. Anybody who’s looking for a start would easily take the Pittsburgh job.
TJECK109
Already one newbie has rejected the Pirates, Mets and cubs.
frustratedpittsburghpiratesfan
Tony Pena, Mike Piazza,
charles stevens
I’d like to throw my name in the hat. I won my fantasy league last year and just enjoyed a two night stay at a holiday inn.
LumberJerk9Billion
I bet they’re canvassing former Sears managers too but considering that’s also a sinking ship, it would just be a lateral move.
bigwestbaseball
Great article!
coldbeer
I’m rooting for Gibby as a dark horse to get the Bucs gig!!!
jorge78
Nebulous!!??
markburgh
They will rotate beer vendors to manage more profits for nutting
jorge78
Sam Fuld!!??
The former Twitter darling?
jorge78
Pirates first interview question.
How low are your salary expectations?
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
“I’d like to be paid a fair, working wage…”
“NEXT!!!”
frustratedpittsburghpiratesfan
Hire the first female manager. Will get lots of good PR for MLB and continue to create smoke screen on why there is not a min and max salary cap.
Mendoza Line 215
The Pirates are one of 30 major league teams and unless your name is Joe Maddon,Joe Girardi,or Buck Showalter you cannot afford to be too picky.
Inasmuch as few managers are good out of the post I would prefer that they get someone with experience or who has had numerous contacts and experience in successful organizations.
data9147
The Pirates will wait until the more desirable jobs (i.e., all of the others) are taken. They won’t want the embarrassment of candidates turning them down to wait on better jobs. Their job will be at the bottom of everybody’s list because they’re a 93-loss team with a mediocre farm system, a payroll so tight that they can’t even afford third-tier free agents, and an owner who refuses to allow them to rebuild. It’s an impossible situation.
Mendoza Line 215
That may be the reason why they are not interviewing the top three,but there is no reason why they need to hold up the process.
These other first time candidates are not guaranteed a manager’s job.
When Hurdle was hired he wanted guarantees that the method of operation would change and he got them.How many teams won 280 games in a three year period in the last ten years?Not many.
They can still get a good candidate with the same promises.
They do need to spend more money but frankly with the success rate for expensive free agents what it is they have wasted much less money than most of these teams.
data9147
Whatever the reason, they apparently ARE holding up the process. This happened when they hired Hurdle. The better candidates weren’t interested. It’s not a desirable job. And Nutting isn’t going to change his financial approach for anybody.
Mendoza Line 215
It is a desireable job in that there are only 30 of them in the world.
The Prates have not been forthcoming on details so we do not really know the status of the process.
The best experienced candidates will naturally be more interested in the higher profile and more lucrative jobs,especially with so many openings.
Hurdle was a good choice at the time and was fairly successful for five years.
Nutting is willing to pay for Pirate player extensions and additions when they have proven to be a playoff caliber team.
I believe that he was embarrassed this year and understands the need to have more depth on the team and controlled free agent spending.Hopefully NH can learn to pick the good buys out of the crowd.They both know that the SOP did not come close to working this year when they were actually planning to have a reasonably good team.
frustratedpittsburghpiratesfan
Hurdle may get a new job before the Pirates hire staff. Save the $$ Nutting!! Bring your own fireworks to fireworks night to save &$. Let’s see that Pirates balance Sheet? Com’on where is the transparency??
Lets Go DBacks
2017 D-backs want their comment back. Oh, look! It is 2019 and Mike Hazen turned around the situation.
oldleftylong
It’ll be Brad Ausmus. He can interview his way into another job.
PiratesFan1981
Please not Jeff Bannister. That is the only reason why I believe they brought Bannister back anyways, to fill Hurdles shoes.
Mendoza Line 215
They will go through the process of interviewing potential managers but I think that the chances are good that Bannister will get the job.
He will be the safest pick for NH because they will not be in the running for the more experienced successful managers.
NH is in a similiar position as Klentak in that the next managerial hire needs to be successful or the GM job may be gone.
First time managers are problematic unless they have clearly superior qualities or extensive minor league managerial experience.
FullyOperationalDeathStar
The two managers in the ALCS didn’t have any managerial experience at all before getting hired. Managers for some of the best teams in baseball had no managerial experience at all before they got their jobs. Such as Hinch, Cash, Roberts, Cora, Boone, Baldelli, Counsell
youngTank15
AJ Hinch managed the Dbacks prior to the Astros.
Mendoza Line 215
You name several who manage for teams with megabucks.
You do not name any first year managers who failed.
Every HOF manager had to get a first job somewhere.Some were successful the first time ,most not.
Some of these managers will last,some will not.
I agree that there has been a pool of mediocre managers that have been floating around over the years and that first time managers should take their place.
But past successful managers who are presently unemployed present the best pool,albeit small, from which to hire unless there is an outstanding first time candidate currently available.
FullyOperationalDeathStar
Okay, my mistake on Hinch. My point is, there’s still plenty of guys with who have had tons of success who this is their first managerial gig. That seems to be the most popular route nowadays. And even look at some of the buzz names this offseason….Beltran, Kotsay, Ross, Shelton, Espada all lack managerial experience
frustratedpittsburghpiratesfan
No more retreads!!
stko
I’m confused as to why MLBTR hasn’t mentioned Jason Kendall as an option for the Pirates yet? he has told several local news columns in Pittsburgh that he’d manage the team “if asked”. I know he’d probably not be one of my top 5 choices but I dont know why he hasn’t been brought up at all on MLBTR?
Mendoza Line 215
I would like to be a candidate also but I do not have any managerial experience in baseball.
Has Kendall ever managed in the minor leagues?
Sometimes these guys need to understand that experience is an important component in getting the next job.
I am also not sure how well he was received by Pirates management during his career here.
keysox
Your on the list. Did you coach your son’s little league team?
Robin Ventura did and got a gig.
Mendoza Line 215
I have no children but I did play little league and was the smartest player on the team.
If I am on the list then I know that they are slow and have not started the search because I have not received a call yet.
My friends can coach the bases.I do not have a bench coach candidate though.Are you available?
jam
In order to be interviewed, Kendall would have to cross all the bridges he burned when he became one of the most disruptive players ever to put on the black and gold uniform. The largest contract ever given by Pittsburgh (yes, I understand it’s the Pirates!) wasn’t enough. Pass.
heater
They did a few weeks back…
FullyOperationalDeathStar
The whole Kendall thing was a joke to begin with. His name only got out there because he talked to a Pirates beat writer saying he wants to manage and the writer rolled with it writing an article about it.
One, Kendall has publically said the Pirates have yet to even contact him or reach out to him up to this point, so he’s not a candidate at all. Second, if you have to come out and publicly say you wanna manage and to get your name out there, that very likely means the baseball world doesn’t view you as a future manager. That’s basically like being “hey pay attention to me guys, I still exist”. You get viewed as a managerial candidate based off of merit and what others in baseball circles think of you. Not saying HEY I WANT TO MANAGE. You haven’t heard guys like Carlos Beltran and Mark Kotsay ever say publicly they wanna be a manager and they’re getting interviews
captainkid
Ridiculous statement. Kendall is well regarding around MLB and regularly receives interest for various coaching roles. The respect he’s garnered from several top-tier pitchers and managers proves that he knows how to command a staff, understands how to build / fortify trust amongst players and has a knack for navigating the strategic side of the game. He’d be a welcome addition to any MLB organization.
FullyOperationalDeathStar
I legitimately not once have heard him mentioned as a future managerial candidate anywhere for open jobs since he retired. And I consider myself pretty well connected when it comes to MLB. His name ONLY began to circulate because he did an interview with Jason Mackey and said he wants to manage the Pirates. Pretty sure nobody would have ever brought his name up had that original article not been written. It took him publicly getting his name out there
captainkid
Should be Kendall, hands down
joblo
I’m supporting a real dark horse, David Freese. He’s available and he knows what needs to be done. The only question is whether Nutting and Huntington would be willing to put up with someone that tells it like it is as Freese did before going to L.A.
Mendoza Line 215
Does David Freese want to manage?
Again,he has no experience.
The job is not all that easy.
He also said last year that he did not want to shop as a free agent and make a few million dollars a year.
That is all that he would get with the Pirates as a first time manager.
panj341
Freese can still hit so he could be a player-coach, that could save Nutting money. LOL
Scott Kliesen
I expect Bannister will be hired because the GM is most comfortable with him. Plus I expect after the way Kapler floundered in Philly, the hiring of guys like Fuld and Bell will be viewed as too risky for GM’s on thin ice.
econ101
Unfortunately, I agree with your analysis. The best candidate will not be hired. The safest will probably be hired.
Honestly, though, a young, energetic, outside-the-box manager is what the Pirates could use. Kapler definitely made some errors in Philly, but moving forward that’s a lot less likely. Not a bad choice anymore. Philly has been highly overrated (not to mention the injuries).
econ101
Bell would be an interesting choice considering the long-standing issues between the Bucs and Reds. Would being brothers mend that relationship or make it worse? LOL
Monkey’s Uncle
I thought the same thing, but I wonder how much of the issues between the teams last year came down to Bell and Hurdle disliking each other. Sure the players kept getting into it, but David Bell versus Hurdle was sometimes the most interesting part of those issues.
Mendoza Line 215
I too wondered about that.
I agree with Econ as you recall that Joe Maddon had the same problem with Clint.
It was based on the pitching philosophy which I presume will change with Searage gone.
Clint was pretty docile during those arguements but David Bell went ballistic which makes me wonder whether he is under control or not.He also got like five days suspension while Clint got only two.
David needs to simmer down or he will be out of a job.
TJECK109
We should all prepare ourselves for Jeff Bannister.