After a disappointingly early postseason exit, the Dodgers are back to plotting the tweaks that will take their roster to yet another level. The initial expectation is that the Los Angeles organization will open trade talks with the Indians regarding star shortstop Francisco Lindor, unnamed sources tell Jon Morosi of MLB.com (via Twitter).
On the one hand, it’s hardly surprising to hear that the L.A. franchise has its eyes on Lindor, one of the game’s very best young players. On the other, it’s worth taking this report with a heavy dose of salt. It isn’t entirely clear from Morosi’s phrasing whether Dodgers executives have already crafted a clear plan to go after Lindor.
Even if the Dodgers are a contender for Lindor, there are plenty of obstacles to completing a swap. We’ve already seen a hint of the involvement of another coastal behemoth and numerous other clubs would surely want a crack at the superstar. The bidding would surely be intense.
And it’s not even clear just yet whether the Indians wish to take this course with their franchise centerpiece. While the Cleveland org would surely base its decision upon actual trade offers, it’ll hesitate even to launch earnest discussions — and thereby kickstart a rumor mill that would loom large over the offseason — unless it believes that the end result will be a swap.
The Dodgers aren’t exactly hurting for talent on the left side of the infield. Corey Seager wasn’t dominant in his first year back from Tommy John surgery, but was still quite productive and remains a high-end young talent. Justin Turner’s glove may be slowing but his bat is just about as vicious as ever. And one of the game’s best prospects, Gavin Lux, has spent most of his professional time at shortstop (though the Dodgers utilized him at second in his debut year).
While it’d be hard to label shortstop as a need, it doesn’t take a ton of imagination to appreciate the concept of adding a mid-prime Lindor to the mix. It probably works even without a trade. Seager could shift over to third, with Turner spending more of his time at first base. Lux and Max Muncy would be the other key parts of the mix on the right side of the diamond, with Cody Bellinger spending most of his time in center field. The offensive upside of such an infield unit would be enormous.
Of course, it’s quite possible that there’d be some other changes to the L.A. roster mix, possibly even in a hypothetical swap to land Lindor. The Indians will not likely be focused on far-away talent in negotiations. Bringing aboard the exceptional talent will unquestionably require a major haul in return. Lindor, who’s closing in on his 26th birthday, is a high-grade defender and well-above-average offensive player. He’s projected to earn $16.7MM in arbitration — a big number but still well shy of his single-season open-market value. With one more arb year to go, Lindor has plenty of trade value; it’s also arguably the right time for the Indians to bite the bullet and cash him in.
depressedtribefan
:*(
Robertowannabe
Don’t fret too much yet fan of the Lake Tribe. This sounds like a rumor of a rumor so far. Guessing that if Indians decide to move him, it will cost the team that wants him a ton which would be good for the Tribe.
lowtalker1
Like lux to start but that is only the first name
bush1
The Dodgers wouldn’t do Lux alone for Lindor. They definitely wouldn’t do Lux plus. I’m pretty sure Lux isn’t going anywhere.
StandUpGuy
Straight up click bait. Morosi is well known but is nowhere near the top in being the first to predict future trades. Every time he has predicted something that came true he read it from another member of the press first. Lindor may be on the block or may not be. The fact is that their is more than a 90% that Lindor will not be wearing a Dodgers uniform by opening day next year. Morosi may have heard one person mention Lindors name and now he’s running away with it so he can get more clicks and attention. Either that or he just made this up completely for the exact same reason.
bush1
Morosi is the most vague reporter out there. He’s pretty much worthless and only mentions things everyone knows already.
bigcheesegrilledontoast
I don’t see it happening, you don’t trade your players fans love to watch….kids and Adults alike, you build around them. You can rebuild and keep your franchise players.
Robertowannabe
Especially those sill under control for a couple of years. The only way you do trade early is if said player has made it absolutely clear that he 100% going to file for free agency and the player is a top tier play that you feel that you will not be able to compete for his services. In that case you do consider trading him so that you do not end up with just a comp pick if you do not trade him and you lose him. I don’t know how he feels about extending but if he is willing, the Tribe needs to make the effort
sufferforsnakes
Lindor publicly stated “pay me and I’ll stay” awhile ago. Tribe owners said “enjoy him while he’s here.”
He’ll eventually be traded.
debubba
Agreed. He is getting a huge payout and the tribe is already cringing on a payroll around 110 million. I don’t know how you would be competitive in the future by giving one player nearly a third of your payroll budget. In most cases (not Cleveland or Tampa) you bring people in to the park when you win, not for one player. I would trade him, get a haul and use the savings to help lock up Bieber. With Klubers money the year after, lock up Clevenger.
StandUpGuy
Why is Cleveland so far behind? I mean LeBron James only came back to win the championship because he is from there. I saw this video about “ClevelandTown” and how they are the only major in the city that still uses payphones. I don’t get it. Why can’t the Indians pay as much as the Browns or Cavaliers? I am about to try and post the “ClevelandTown” video.
ForestCobraAL
Not to the Dodgers. They’re loaded there. Lindor will have to be paid and if the Dodgers are looking to get better and spend to do so then Gerrit Cole is their move.
emac22
You think that the Indians will keep him and pay him over 300 million dollars to resign instead of trading him?
It’s too expensive to even consider a mistake like that.
solaris602
Never ever. Tribe knows they can’t afford to keep him, so the only question regarding his departure is timing. When do you get max value? For CLE the return discussion with LAD has to start with Lux. Add Hand to the deal and things get really interesting. Yankees of course will be in play, but the likelihood of NYY sending back genuine quality value is unlikely.
amk3510
Any contending team will explore Lindor.
Padres458
Trading hin isnt like trading Bauer, they do this amd the franchise is toast for 2 years.no they wont, most cant get a deal done.
User 589131137
Get it done Antonetti! LA has not only the prospect, but the prospect pedigree to do this the right way. Don’t make the same mistake as Baltimore with Machado.
Pax vobiscum
Prospects are just that. Unproven commodities with a lot of wishful dreaming. Sometimes they turn out sometimes they don’t. To make sure you hit on a trade involving a player of Lindor’s quality there have to be multiple names going the other way.
debubba
I think you do not return calls to LA if the conversation doesn’t start with Lux and May.
throwinched10
Gavin Lux
Dustin May
Joc Pederson
Dodger Dog
Lol
Robertowannabe
Lol all you want Dodger Dog. If a team wants Lindor they will have to pay for him and not with low level prospects or underperforming vets. Not jus 1 top prospect either.
Ruffner008
Swap Ruiz for Pederson and add a 4th, and I’d be listening (and I am firmly in the “do not trade Lindor” camp).
Padres458
Lux – May is already too much
debubba
Nope. Look at the return on Chris Sale. Multiple years of control and he pitches every five days. Lindor, at 26, is a four time all star, gold glover and plays every single day.
debubba
Nope. Think about the Chris Sale deal. That was a huge haul and he only plays every fifth day. An everyday SS, four time all star and gold glover with two years of control gets you a Sale (or more) like trade.
jbigz12
No way it would cost May, Ruiz and Lux. I cannot see that happening in anyway. Lindor has two years of control. His final year is going to come with a payroll tab of north of 25MM. Lux and Ruiz seems like a fair grab for that.
Ruffner008
Haha, I mean… I’m just saying, there is zero chance of a two player return for Lindor, *especially* this offseason. If it’s going to happen this year, I would think it would take at least 4 players, and they would have to be high end prospects with at least 1-2 close to or already playing in the majors. This is why I don’t think a deal happens this year. Indians are still contending. The package would need to be absolutely overwhelming for them to consider.
gidez1
The Dodgers need a left handed reliever, so I can see the Dodgers offer Lux, Ruiz, joc Pederson and either May or Goslin (probably Goslin) and a lower level pick for Lindor and Hand
ColossusOfClout
So you’re saying they should wait a year and trade him for much less?
That makes sense.
Indiansfan13
Luz, may and verdugo would do it for me! All young controller and fills needs indians have.
Ruffner008
Well… first of all, it wouldn’t be “much” less (look at the haul we got for Bauer at 1.5 controllable years remaining – and he is no Lindor). And yeah, I would hope they keep him until they are overwhelmed by the return. They are a contender. Keep him and contend.
throwinched10
Hilarious. Two of you seem to think it’s too much. Two of you seem to think it’s too little.
To the ones who think it’s an overpay, we are talking about the best SS in the MLB. We are also talking about a team that can afford to sign him to a robust extension.
jbigz12
And Gavin lux is a top 5 in all of baseball prospect. Ruiz is a top 25 in his own regard. There’s only 2 years of expensive control left for Lindor. I’m not sure who can offer the Indians a potential high impact major league ready replacement with 6 years of control. That and a near ML ready catcher. That’s a pretty good headline to any package. Don’t see what is funny.
Someone would have to be willing (and able) to beat that. I certainly don’t know what team has more than that to offer. Particularly for a payroll conscious club like Cleveland. Seems like a hell of a package.
throwinched10
I’m not saying your post or offer is hilarious. I was referring to the people who thought my proposed offer was too much.
jbigz12
I see. Didn’t notice you were the OP. I’d be surprised if Lux didn’t go back in any deal between Cleveland and LA. He’d be blocked for at least 2 seasons unless they made another move with Seager or Turner. He’s also the tailor made replacement for Lindor in Cleveland.
Cleveland is also pretty well stocked with arms. No doubt they’d love May as well but SS would be their gigantic hole post Lindor. Ruiz is a slightly lesser prospect than May and with Will Smith’s emergence he seems like less of a need in LA moving forward.
imindless
Plus we have that young catching prospect cartaya or something whos comp is salvador perez. I personally would rather keep the low payroll than add lindor tbh. We need pitching desperately, why not sink resources there?
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Seager, Buehler and Muncy ought to be enough for a Lindor truffle.
throwinched10
Doesn’t make sense for the Dodgers to trade established major leaguers for Lindor – considering their prospects are top notch and the fact that the Indians would mainly be trying to shed payroll.
hockeyjohn
The Indians would be trying to extend their contention window by acquiring a young potential star with more years of control., They are not looking for just prospects. With their starting pitching the Indians are a contender. I think Lux would have to be in the trade for the Indians.
emac22
Well shoot. If it doesn’t make sense for the Dodgers to trade that much let’s just set the price based on what most convenient.
The Indians don’t want any ready to go players anyway. How about a few competitive balance picks in the next draft and some IFA money?
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Dodgers make no sense—all the money in the world and still a dump of a stadium and no WS title on the horizon. The rising oceans will cover Los Aneles before they raise a WS title flag over Chavez.
gidez1
Your stupid! Buhler is untouchable! Not even tatis jr could get him
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
It’s “you’re” stupid, stupid. Tatis Jr. is the next best player in the majors to Mike Trout. Buehler is a pitcher, so who cares. The sissy plays every 5 days. Only position players are real ballplayers.
mlbdodgerfan2015
How does trading away Seager, Buehler and Muncy for Lindor make the Dodgers a better team? Great for the Indians, moronic for the Dodgers. Last time I checked Friedman is no idiot.
fox471 Dave
Rightttt!
DarkSide830
curious to see how this truns out. clearly though the offense isnt the issue here. perhaps it’s Kershaw, not the Nationals, with a playoff curse.
fox471 Dave
Roberts not Kershaw. Roberts!
astros_fan_84
I wonder if there will be a minor fire sale? They’ve got some really good players.
jbigz12
This is the Indians M.O. They’re gonna move their expensive guys to keep the window open longer. I’m sure Kluber would be for sale but his value is fairly low right now. Don’t think they’re blowing up a 92 win team. They’ve shown that they’re willing to move guys to be able to stay competitive longer. We can debate all day and night whether that’s the right move but nevertheless it is a move they’ve used.
lfrient1
The Tribe won 93 games in 2019.
jbigz12
Correct but extremely trivial……
lfrient1
Agreed. Just wondering if you were just testing to see if anyone would notice or not.
Speaking of 93 wins: It is interesting that the Tribe failed to make the postseason with 93 wins while the Nationals made it to the World Series with theirs.
jbigz12
Nah just didn’t look. Didn’t really remember the final total. Really wasn’t very important to the point so I didn’t bother.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
The Dodgers’ 106 wins got them a humiliating 1st round world-wide beatdown . I’d prefer the Indians’ 93 wins. The Dodger have to cough it up to avoid more beatings. The Indians have what the Dodgers need, not the other way around—use the leverage.
gidez1
Stop being a troll! Padre guy! The Dodgers hardly got smacked. They had a 3-0 lead in game 5 and a 3-1 lead going into the 8th inning at home. Bad managing cost us the game and series. The padres are so bad with such horrible contracts and upper management they will be competing with the giants for last place the next 10 years. It’s a loser franchise with the worst fans on the west coast
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Who authorized you to call other commenters “trolls”? Dodger details are necessary—they’re sitting while others are still playing—’nuff said!!! Look at the Los Angeles Times sport page—they don’t have any Dodger stories since they were given their lunch by the Nationals. They cover the WS halfway down the page and in 106 words or less. Dodgers and their fans are a 3 century joke. And yeah, my Padres haven’t won anything in our first 50 years. My name, padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin, says it all. Took your Bridegroom 83 years from your 1883 birth to win your first title. My Padres have 32 years to best that pace. P.S. Gigantes have won 3 World Series titles in the last TEN years—you ought to show them some respect. They are after all, your team’s daddies. Also, my Padres haven’t spent the BILLIONS you have to remain losers.
mlbdodgerfan2015
This post is wrong in so many ways. Dodgers did not get beat down. I always thought that the Nationals were the most dangerous NL team for the Dodgers due to their SP. And they lost in game 5. Leverage? Dodgers don’t need to trade for Lindor. There are other players and other teams to trade with.
Psychguy
Sorry, is the genius still not emphasizing upgrading their pen?
amk3510
Its ok to upgrade your whole roster believe it or not.
Psychguy
Yea, but the pen is the problem and has been for consecutive years.
amk3510
Wasn’t a problem in 2017. Last year it was only a problem in the WS and they outplayed the Brewers gauntlet pen to get there. This year they had the pieces but Roberts was playing checkers on a chess board.
Psychguy
When you have to move starters into relief roles… guys who are not accustomed to it, yeah it’s a problem. There is no way guys like Chargrois, Alexander, Garcia, should be getting a sniff. And Floro what happened to him? They don’t have players who can perform well in high leverage situations like the playoffs.
amk3510
None of those guys were on the playoff roster. Any combination of Maeda, Kolarek, Kelly (1 inning), Jansen was a clear path to beating the Nationals. You can try and argue all you want they didn’t have the arms. Looking at what happened after Kershaw came out is evidence enought. They couldnt touch Maeda then or in the whole series.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Friedman understands no amount of additional spending will get the team to the top of the mountain, so they pocket the money and shut off the local telly coverage to 70% of the ex-fans. This has been going on for like six years now.
Philliesfan4life
This trade does not make sense , the dodgers have seager under control , Lindor would be a rental.
Polish Hammer
Nobody trading for him would go in thinking of a rental and I’m sure already has a suitable extension offer ready to present.
amk3510
They have the same free agent date
vtadave
Seager and Lindor are both controllable through 2021.
andrewgauldin
Trade doesn’t make much sense for other reasons, but not because Lindor would be a rental. Lindor, as well as Seager, have 3 years of control remaining.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
It doesn’t make sense for different reasons. What does somewhat make sense; Seager has the same amount of control as Lindor does, provides better defensive ability that equates to more than positioning, and is a switch. What doesn’t makes sense is twofold the Dodgers trading Seager at a low point in value, and the fact this rumor is reported on by JP, so little chance it occurs. That’s not to say the Dodgers or any other contending team wouldn’t have interest, just chalk this under the no duhh category.
DirtbagBlues
Pretty sure they don’t intend to trade Seager. He’ll be moved to third base with Justin Turner going to first.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Saavy “conditional trade”? Lindor would need to agree to an extension, much like Betts with my Padres. Seager, Buehler & Muncy want a real chance to win something other than participant ribbons.
ericl
Any trade would likely have to include May or Urias and then either Lux or Seager. The Dodgers aren’t going to be able to get Lindor without giving up high end talent because if they aren’t willing to do so, another team will be.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Nobodies Lux, May & Urias won’t get it done—that’s like offering a Pinto, a Focus and an Escort for a Porsche. Get real, cheapskate. Buehler, Seager and Muncy plus $50 million sounds legit. Dodgers can then trade unwanted Kershaw to San Diego for corner OF Myers, 1B Hosmer and a RP for a straight salary swap.
hockeyjohn
Seager does not fit the Indians needs as he has the same years of control as Lindor. Lux has to be in the deal.
BlueSkyLA
And Lindor doesn’t fit the Dodgers for the same reason. This is one of those rumors created by sportswriters with too much time on their hands and too little to report.
13Morgs13
The dodgers have plenty to make a deal. They can do it and still have a ton of young great talent.
123redsox
They could then make a move for JbJ sending Bellinger to a corner with Pollack in another.. Peterson gets traded and verdugo and Taylor highlight the bench
pplama
Nobody wants JBJ.
thetruth 2
Seager, Lux, Verdugo
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Seager, Buehler and Muncy plus $50 million.
hockeyjohn
Stop with Seager. He does not fit Cleveland’s needs. Lux has to be in the deal.
gidez1
Padre guy maybe we should give you buhler lux muncy and bellinger for hosmer and Machado? Lol you are stuck with horrible contracts and you can troll all u want on the dodgers but your franchise is a joke.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
I’ll take that deal—Hosmer & Machado to you Doyers— Bellinger/Muncy/Lux/Buehler to my Padres. I won’t need to be slipping to you Doyer fans anymore after this deal.
terry g
Jon Morosi’s batting percentage keeps going down. He misses way more than he hits. I ask you. When does rumor end and storytelling begin?
88dodger
I don’t see how Lindor would be much of an upgrade for the Dodgers at shortstop.
2019: Lindor 114 wRC+, Seager 113 wRC+.
They had the same number of Defensive Runs Saved (9).
And Seager is 5 months younger than Lindor.
ilikebaseball 2
Players are more than their last season, and teams are a business and its not just baseball production that they value.
Career WAR Lindor 28.6 bWAR, Seager 17.8 bWAR
Lindor 4 time AS, 3 times in the top 10 MVP voting averaged 154 games played the last 4 seasons. Media Darling Mr Smile
Seager 2 time AS, 1 times in the top 10 MVP voting averaged 115 games played the last 4 seasons. I think* Dodger commercials still call him the “kid.”
Lindor has proven himself more durable, a more productive player and is clearly a more marketable player. Seager isn’t even in the top 5 of recognizable Dodgers. Seager is a GREAT player, but he’s no Lindor. Close but not clearly not equal.
Michael Chaney
Lindor is quite possibly the best shortstop in baseball. He’s an upgrade for anyone, period. Cherry-picking stats doesn’t change that.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Lindor is one of the best SS’s in baseball—absolutely true. Tatis Jr. is the best.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Humpty Dumpty falls off the wall, Lindor truffles are forever.
pplama
Not going to happen. Indians have zero need to sell. A few mild tweaks and they’ll be favored to win the Central next year.
jbigz12
The Indians have already shown you that they’ll trade guys who are expensive away in order to keep a playoff window open longer. This wouldn’t be all that dissimilar from trading Yan Gomes or Trevor Bauer. Particularly if it were to the Dodgers with a SS like Lux coming back.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Indians would never turn down Buehler, Muncy and Seager plus $50 million for a Lindor truffle. The Indians can then use the $50 million to buy back Manhattan.
jtvincent
with all the stars on that team and the money they spent talent is not the problem. it’s the manager. how else could they fail so many times when they have been the best team.
mcdusty49
Bullpen
fox471 Dave
No!
Padres458
Trading hin isnt like trading Bauer, they do this amd the franchise is toast for 2 years.
seamaholic 2
Makes sense. Lux goes the other way. Infield is Turney-Muncy-Lindor-Seagar.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
So which is it? Are the Indians stupid or is it you?
restingmitchface
You’re totally unbiased aren’t ya?
Dodger Dog
I know comment sections are a joke, but this is next level nonsense. Half the people here are arguing that Seager and Lindor are equals, and the other half think that a package with three all-star level players is a good starting spot. LOL at all of this.
Bart
Who would those three allstar level players be?
restingmitchface
And I bet it’d be pretty easy to guess which ones are LAD fans and which are CLE fans.
Lindor is incredible and very valuable, but even Lux straight-up would never happen. That’s six seasons of control for Lux vs one season for Lindor.
Vandals Took The Handles
Lindor has 3 years of control, and is a proven All-Star.
Lux has as much of a chance of washing out as having success in the majors.
restingmitchface
My bad. I’m just gonna step aside and munch on some crow now.
restingmitchface
Edit: looks like we’re both incorrect. Lindor is a FA after the 2021 season, so two years control.
mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/indians-avoid-arbitrati…
hockeyjohn
Lindor has two years and is a proven superstar and leader. Lux has six years of control and a great deal of potential. What is more important to the Dodgers?
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Take a break and go eat a Dodger Dog. Come back next inning and see who’s on the field then. Don’t forget, you’re buying whatever is the “special-of-the-day”.
jacobsigel1025
Seager Ruiz May for Lindor
hockeyjohn
Seager does not meet Cleveland’s needs. Lux has to be in the deal.
angt222
LAD gives CLE: Dustin May, Gavin Lux, Wil Smith, and Alex Verdugo for Lindor and Kluber.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
SD will give you Hedges, Jankowski and Cordero for Buehler, Maeda and Verdugo. That’s more sane than your 4 rookies offer for Lindor and Kluber.
mcdusty49
Yeah because those players are just as good as the package suggested…typical Madres fan
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Typical loud-mouth braggart Doyer fan—everything you girls do is “the best in baseball”—except Chavez Latrine, sufferers of first round knockouts in title fights and deniers of televised baseball broadcasts to 70% of your local market. How do you losers say no to kids watching baseball? Not winning a WS in any year means your team is a loser. Doyers are 5-131 in titles since 1883—THREE CENTURIES of losing! Used to call yourselves “Bridegrooms” in the 1800 or early 1900’s—more like easy bridesmaids.
amk3510
1883 is very relevant now
nacb55
Three crappy stadiums, no money spent on a title, living in the shadows of others… I would say that the league is no better or worse for having the madres exist.
bravesfan
I feel like I’m pretty engaged in baseball but the fact that the Indians may consider trading Lindor seems borderline insane to me. I understand that absolutely crazy haul in prospects make sense for a team who might be rebuilding??? But still… I mean, what am I missing. I wouldn’t trade him unless it’s crazy good offer
Michael Chaney
That last sentence is the key. He won’t go anywhere unless it’s an offer so good that they’d be out of their minds to pass up.
I said similar things about Kluber/Bauer last year (which in hindsight wasn’t quite accurate), but Lindor is the face of their franchise. They can keep him for the next two years and try to win a title then get nothing but a comp pick in return, and no one would blame them. If some team doesn’t absolutely knock their socks off, he’s staying.
Essentially, if they were to move him though, the goal would be to keep their competitive window open for longer. As it stands, their window is shutting a lot more rapidly after 2021. If they can sustain it a little longer than that with players under control for longer, they’d consider it.
JT19
Unless the Indians get an offer that blows their socks off, I don’t see them moving Lindor in the offseason. Assuming he doesn’t suffer a catastrophic injury or he forgets his bat in the dugout, his value shouldn’t change too much between now and the trade deadline. The Indians still have the pieces to make a playoff run, and I wouldn’t be surprised if they at least try one more time. Injuries to their pitching staff really hurt them last year so a little more luck on that side should help them out.
I also don’t see the Dodgers including Seager as it would be mostly counterproductive to trading for Lindor in the first place. Doing a Seager plus pieces swap for Lindor is pretty much a lateral move for the Dodgers. Considering that the Lindor rumors are a thing because of the perceived inability of the Indians to resign him, it also doesn’t make a ton of sense for the Indians to ask for Seager. They’d essentially have him for a 1-1.5 years before they would need to trade him too. They’d get more prospects in that scenario but Seager’s trade value would obviously go down the longer they hold on to him.
Vandals Took The Handles
Seager is not Lindor. Not close.
Doesn’t cover the ground or have the arm. Doesn’t hit as well – and Lindor is a switch-hitter. Doesn’t have the speed.
Seager is a below average ML defensive SS. Doubt very much that the Indians would want him in return. Maybe a 3rd team would take him – but right now SS is the most stocked position in MLB. Seager is not even in the top 75% of ML SS’s.
restingmitchface
The poster didn’t say Seager and Lindor are the same. He/she said that two years of Seager plus additional prospects for one year of Lindor would be a lateral move in the big-picture. You may disagree but this opinion is not without merit.
restingmitchface
Edit: Lindor has two seasons of control (not one) so my post is pretty much irrelevant.
steelerbravenation
May, Seager, Pederson, Ruiz & Sheffield for Lindor & Kluber ????
Vandals Took The Handles
Replace Seager with Verdugo to start.
Then add another 2 prospects.
Vandals Took The Handles
And replace Peterson with a youngster under control.
The Indians have no need for a 27 year-old platoon OF making $8.5m that is a FA after the 2020 season.
fox471 Dave
Never Verdugo or Seager.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Seager, Buehler, Muncy, Verdugo and Maeda plus $100 million to the Indians for Lindor and Kluber. The Indians use the $100 million to knock down Dodger Stadium. The Dodgers move in with the Angels as step-children.
mcdusty49
So insightful…the jealousy is strong with this one
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
You must be the keeper of the Doyer trophies, Dusty. 5 times in 3 centuries and counting. Too bad your Dodger grandpa’s and great grandpappies aren’t on the roster now.
amk3510
The Dodgers are clearly living rent free in this guys head and he still can’t even calculate the dates right.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Doyers stole the Chavez Ravine property, so yeah, they’ve been squatters on that land since the 1950’s. Actually, they’ve really perfected the squatter squat since 1989. What do your fake news dates look like, Quickdraw?
aaronbj
This from a fan of team that has not been a Major League Baseball team as long as Dodgers ! Also from a fan that feels he has to make himself look big by putting down Dodgers ! SINCE THR PADRES SUCK AND WILL ALWAYS SUCK!
hockeyjohn
Lux has to be in the deal for the Indians to move Lindor. Indians keep Lindor if Lux is not in the deal.
bigcheesegrilledontoast
Warning to the Dodgers. Don’t get JoBu mad.
mcdusty49
Can he come out of the bullpen?
1738hotlinebling
Dumb and not gonna happen , Dodgers already have Seager
Oxford Karma
Lindor for seager? Indian gain a year and lose a little skill. Lindor is flashy and would fit in LA. I could see Seager as an Indian.
restingmitchface
Upvoting because of the Oxford comma reference.
hockeyjohn
Lindor and Seager both have two years of control. How do they gain a year?
Lux has to be in the deal for it to make sense for the Indians.
doxiedevil
Maybe LA could get Puig back in the deal lol !!
Maybe Verdugo, Beatty and a top prospect.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Puig is a free agent. The reason the Dodgers traded him is because he was in their future plans.
billysbballz
Indian fans, if ownership comes to you and says sorry we are trading Lindor and here are the two best offers, which one do you take?
Dodgers send:
Lux
May
Ruiz
Yanks send:
Domingo German
Estevan Florial
Albert Abreu
Clint Frazier
Devi Garcia
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Padres send you Manny, Moe and Jack.
hockeyjohn
I would take the Dodger’s deal and it is not even close. Of the eight players listed, Gavin Lux best fits the needs of the Indians. May is a highly rated prospect and had success in MLB in limited time last year. Lux and Ruiz are two hitters which fits Cleveland biggest needs that they would need to get in a Lindor trade. Lux and Ruiz are better options than Florial and Frazier. The Dodger deal is just better.
If the Indians make the Dodger deal, I would be upset to lose Lindor, but as a fan of a small market team I could learn to live with it. If the Indians made the Yankee deal that is proposed above, I would be done as an Indian fan and would never attend another game at Progressive Field.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Yankee deal it is. Bye
George Ruth
Don’t expect Gavin Lux to be in any potential trade unless you expect Lindor to play 2nd base with Mad Max at 3rd base with JT playing 1st
billysbballz
Sounds like Dodgers are looking to make big noise this off season.
Que in my monthly Stanton to Dodgers trade. Rumors float that Stanton not happy how things have gone thus far in NY, how he’s treated by fans, and the fact that he is primarily a DH/LF and not his custom RF.
Now we are not asking for any top prospects. In fact we are willing to give you a decent prospect in the deal to make it work.
Stanton, top 10-15 pitching prospect Trevor Stephen, and another top 20 prospect for AJ Pollack!
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Dodgers are not trading for Stanton lol. They only wanted Stanton on their terms and wanted so much money paid off that contract when he was a star. They aren’t touching that contract with a 10 ft pole. Might as well give up on that thought. The Dodgers OF logjam, the ugly backloaded contract, plus the fact that they need a different type of hitter makes that an absolute non starter.
amk3510
Thats funny. A friend told me the Dodgers should trade for Stanton and I said they wont touch him with a 50 ft pole. If they didn’t want him after an MVP season they surley wont after 2 injury plagued seasons.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Dodgers “aren’t touching” a WS trophy with a 10 ft. pole either
billysbballz
billysbballz
Priceless
Perksy
I have Lux and May on my fantasy team so I’m hoping they get traded to Cleveland. At least I know they will start there. Dodgers screw around too much with the platooning of players and shuffling pitchers from the rotation to the bullpen.
George Ruth
I will be absolutely surprised if Andrew Friedman brings in a high priced player either by trade or in free agency considering he hasn’t done it since becoming Dodgers Team President.
Andrew Friedman has been a huge disappointment as the top decision maker for the Dodgers
wordonthestreet
He won two pennants for you
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
He “won” two participant ribbons for you. That’s why you’re sitting at home scratching your head wondering how your team got knocked the heck out.
nacb55
Padres don’t even get a participation ribbon. That’s how pathetic the situation is. You couldn’t even trade your franchise to Cleveland for a back of balls. You’re a mess. Your team is a mess. Good’day.
aaronbj
When was last time the Sucky Padres made the playoffs and made it to World Series! Padres fans are sore losers and need to stop being Trolls!
Zerbs63
This trade makes no sense for the Dodgers. The Dodgers need pitching (staters and relievers) and the Dodgers already have two young stud shortstops, both younger than Lindor with Seager and Lux.
The Indians are going to want top talent for Lindor and the Dodgers would have to give a huge contract to keep Lindor long term. Long big contracts is not what the current Dodger front office does. Their longest biggest contracts were to already in house guys Kenley Jansen, Justin Turner, Clayton Kershaw and Rich Hill all getting 3 years.
How does a Lindor trade make any sense from a Dodger perspective?
billysbballz
Here is a trade that will hurt 3 teams and help 3 teams but may excite Dodger fanbase the most short term and Indians fan base long term.
The Dodgers needs are RH power bats, bullpen.
Indians needs are bats if they are going for it and knowing the Indians Lindor will be dealt.
Yanks needs are starting pitchers.
Dodgers are already the big team on Lindor and have the chips.
Heres the 3 way deal:
Indians deal Lindor to Dodgers.
Dodgers send Gavin Lux (#1) and Omar Estevez 2nd/ss(#8 potential break out)to Indians and May (#3) to the Yankees.
Yankees send Stanton w/ cash (35 mil) to Dodgers, Estevan Florial (#3) and Albert Abreu (#6) to the Indians.
Dodgers lineup: Lindor, RF-Stanton, 1B-Muncy, Turner, Bellinger, 2B- Seager, LF-Pederson, Smith, pitcher
billysbballz
As for Yanks, Stanton wants to play RF and has not assimilated well thus far. Yanks free up cash and their lineup is clogged with DH types. Now they have money to try and entice Cole, Bumgardner, Strasburg, Wheeler, etc…
Also it appears very likely that Chapman is gonna opt out so the Dodgers can sign him and if the Dodgers want to include in the deal Kenley Jensen to the Yankees who will probably not opt out based on his performance it may offset salary for them even more to go and sign Chapman.