Sunday: Fortunately, Guerrero won’t need an IL stint, manager Charlie Montoyo tells Mitchell (via Twitter). Guerrero’s MRI showed inflammation, but, in the words of the rookie, “nothing major.” He’ll miss only a few days and hopes to return to the lineup “very soon,” Mitchell adds.
Saturday: Heralded Blue Jays rookie Vladimir Guerrero Jr. was removed from today’s contest with the Mariners due to what the team has called “left knee discomfort”. “Vladito” exited the game after making a diving grab on a ground ball at third base in the top of the second inning, and it appears the move may have been more than precautionary–manager Charlie Montoyo informed TSN’s Scott Mitchell that Guerrero Jr. will undergo an MRI on Sunday (link).
Receiving an MRI is hardly a surefire sign that a player is going to miss significant time, but it also stands to figure that the revelation of even a minor knee issue could spell the end of the 2019 season for the talented third sacker. The Jays currently sit in development and evaluation mode as they play out the string in what will most likely be their second consecutive losing season. Guerrero Jr.–perhaps the team’s most prized prospect of the century, if not ever–would not be an asset to treat with anything less than the utmost caution.
If Guerrero Jr. does indeed make it back to action in the coming days, he will look to build on a more-than-respectable rookie campaign. His .275/.345/.465 batting line corresponds with a 114 wRC+–a mark that ties him with veterans Nolan Arenado and Eduardo Escobar for 18th among third basemen with 250-plus at-bats this year. Of course, that he was hurt on a defensive play should add some extra concern to the situation for Toronto moving forward. Listed at 6’1, 200-lb measurements of questionable veracity, there has long been speculation that Vlad Jr.’s stocky-yet-powerful frame would welcome an eventual move to DH or first base. Regardless of his long-term role with the org, Jays fans will likely wait with bated breath for news of tomorrow’s MRI results.
bobtillman
MRI’s FOR EVERYONE……They’re (ahem) on Sale……
WubbaLubbaDubDub
Rim shot
johns-11
Hate to say this but his weight doesn’t help the apparent issue.
SuperSinker
Thanks for the insight John Smith
Strike Four
If you hate to say something you shouldn’t say it.
Begamin
“hi i dont understand hyperboles”
– strike four
Steven Chinwood
“Greg what’s the safe word again?”
– Begamin
Begamin
you are absolutely pathetic
Steven Chinwood
Four words seem to be a bit much. Besides Greg gets enough scrutiny from his family, and friends.
Bocephus
Who’s Greg?
coldbeer
Take it easy Tony Little.
dalrob
Missed a month last year for knee reasons also. Kid needs to lose 30 to 40 lbs or this is going to be chronic. I would not draft this kid on a keeper pool until he slums down. Kinda sad really.
highplainsdriftr
It is sad when somebody’s physical health gets in the way of the office keeper pool.
Strike Four
gotta be the corniest post on here in a long time
pasha2k
His father carried weight too. Devers had a lot overweight last 2yrs but finally lost the baby fat.
MasterShake
Not trying to be condescending here but I remember Vlad Sr. Being fairly thin.
jdodson1822
You are correct. Vlad Sr was very thin until he got to the Angels. By then his knees were almost shot
miguel trucha
He sure was. He gained some weight in his final couple years but that’s it.
bdallen714
His father didn’t carry weight until the end of his career, and he was never as big as Jr., not to mention he was a couple inches taller
WideWorldofSports
And where do you practice medicine?
Fuck Me Bitch
I haven’t read any comments that account for your put down.
infractor
How exactly does someone go about slumming down?
Turbo1972
You’ll never see him less than this weight ever. He lost weight coming into this season. Move him to first and bring up Kevin Smith to transition to third. The way the team is shaping up they’re definitely going to compete for a WC spot in 2021
dalrob
Slims down
jimmertee
Vlad Jr is not 200lbs, that is BlueJays Mgmt spin nonsense. Vlad Jr is 265lbs.
Dylan please stop writing regeritated BlueJays trash. Even the Sportsnet commentators in spring training wouldn’t give him that and on the air they talked about him being at least 235lb. He was 280 lbs in spring training,
Lastly this guy is NOT a long term 3rd baseman. Move him to first. Yeesh.
coldbeer
Mlb.com says 250…who cares?
Dexxter
I agree about moving him to first.
Moving a 3b to 1b doesn’t automatically mean he’s going to excel there. 1b is easier than 3b… but it’s still different and takes time to learn.
Eventually he’s moving there (we all know it) so put him there now. Let him develop into a good 1b instead of hoping he can grow into an average 3b.
Dag Gummit
Must be embarrassing to have completely missed the “questionable veracity” comment the author gives about Vlad’s listed weight… and that the author also mentioned the commonly known, longstanding feeling that 1B is in the young man’s future.
Or perhaps you’re just a bad trolling by acting pissed at something the author didn’t do as if they did.
coldbeer
It was an awkward play but nothing looked instinctively wrong considering he got the throw off to 1st base. At least thru my tv.lol
Hopefully it’s nothing a 10-day DL stint cant handle so he can finish out this year the way he has been playing for the last month. Kid has been hot and bouncing back very nicely after a slow start to the rookie campaign.
Scrap1ron
Playing all those home games on turf doesn’t help.
coldbeer
This happened on the dirt…where he fields most of his plays.
cecildawg
Scrap you are right. TURF. Turns on that stuff is sometimes unforgiving.
Little turns add up. Especially with an energetic athletic overweight overachieving
‘kid’? Dang.
infractor
How many plays at 3B do you see on the turf, guy?
Scrap1ron
How many workouts, wind sprints, etc… do you not see besides the actual game play? Are you under the impression that the subsurface of the infield dirt is any different than that of the outfield?
Dag Gummit
Is the Jays’ turf still that bad? I’ve frequently heard how many modern artificial surfaces are now gentler on human joints than sod and dirt, though I’ll freely admit I don’t know.anything about Toronto’s particular surface.
PiratesFan1981
In words of Duece Bigloo Male Gigloo “That’s one big b***h”!
Jeff Zanghi
How are Vlads .275 14 HR line and Arenados .305 28 HR line the same wRC+ mark? That stat really seems a bit off to me — not just in this case but it seems to be failing to take into account a good amount of data/production and compacting it down to a less than useful statistic. Idk maybe it’s just something I’ve got to get used to with the new wave of stats and everything but if you ask me… it often times seems misleading for a lot of guys – both positively and negatively.
Codeeg
It’s misleading if only you carry the conception that batting average is more important than a lot of stats. It’s not even a top 15 stat for batters in terms of production.
antibelt
Total number of at-bats. Nolan has way more, so volume accordingly.
falconsball1993
Also WRC adjusts for park, situation, etc…
Dag Gummit
You’ve got a lot of catching up to do. If you want to start from the beginning of the ‘new wave’ of stats, feel free to read up Bill James’ Baseball Abstracts from 1977-1988
If you’re willing to “indulge” into a low-cost subscription-reader service, Baseball Prospectus has a very, very deep archive available to its subscribers (starting with its lowest-end subscriber service, “Premium”):
https://www.baseballprospectus.com
DarkSide830
how about you all stop worrying about some kid’s weight and do something more important. whatever he ends up weighing isnt contingent on what you lot think.
neo
Yes, and what are you all even doing on MLBTR or thinking at all about baseball? Certainly there are things for you to do that will have a greater impact on your future and the lives of others than this. Go, listen to the DarkSide.
dalrob
Why are you on here? Go hug a tree somewhere.
sufferforsnakes
That kid’s so big that when he dives for a ball it registers a 2.0 on the Richter scale.
antibelt
Pablo had a lot of good years at third with that type of weight. However, when he slimmed down, he always played better. This kid could play third with that weight, but I wonder just how phenomenal he could be in shape.
Dag Gummit
Sandoval also rated much more highly per both scouting reports and metrics at an older age than Vlad does currently — namely in his age-25 2011 with a +14/ +13 DRS/ UZR in ~2/3 season of playing time.
As such, while it is fair to say that weight alone isn’t an absolute indicator, there is still a lot to say “Yep. He’s gonna have to move to 1B” for a 21-year old who rates poorly at 3B both by the eye test and the numbers available…. and now has two years in a row of knees getting banged up.
I’ll say it’s likely more fair to compare him now to baby Pujols. While he can play 3B, in order to maximize the amount his bat gets in the lineup over the mid- and long-term, it seems wise to move him over to 1B quite soon. And who knows? He might just be above average or even good over there (like Albert).
Meko
This may end his season, Given his status as an uber-prospect and the lack of contention (not to mention the fact he’s proven himself and will be opening day next year).
I can’t imagine any scenario where they would risk any damage or additional injury by playing him at less that %100.
antibelt
That’s already in the article dude.
OilCanLloyd
A 1st base/DH career. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s imperative his bat is regularly in the lineup for years to come. I personally don’t see Tellez as a long term piece. He too plays sub par D, but his bat is not elite.
Polish Hammer
Nothing wrong with that if you’re mid career or later, but when you’re only 20 years old and that is where you’re at already it’s sad.
Dag Gummit
Sad? I don’t see why you think that. It’s not like there have been few players moved to 1B early in their careers who were successful (a “small” list: baseballhall.org/explorer?name=&team=All&…). Heck, there have been quite a few who were moved there even earlier than Vlad. Not only will his career be up to his bat, but that is what makes a 1B a 1B…
Polish Hammer
Growing up a 1B and playing the position well and being bumped there until you are a full time DH are not the same. This kid needs to get his weight under control, he’s only 20 and should be in prime condition and not already missing time due to injuries resulting from the excess weight.
goalieguy41
Hello….Prince Fielder
its_happening
Extra weight doesn’t help.
Playing on fake dirt doesn’t help.
Not the first knee issue for Vlad. That doesn’t help.
He needs to be in better shape in 2020.
Polish Hammer
Fake dirt?
its_happening
Yes. Fake dirt. Dirt piled on-top of concrete where the turf used to be. Still a hard infield.
Polish Hammer
So it’s actually real dirt layered on top of something that isn’t a whole lot different than what is below the surface on a natural grass. Certainly explains why a 20 year old that has only played a few games on it in his career would already be missing games and not the extra 60+ pounds he’s carrying on his frame.
its_happening
Yes. Fake dirt. When you know the history of the ole’ Skydome you can come in here with an argument. Then again my first line was about extra weight and you chose to ignore it. I’ll stop now since last week we found out you are sensitive. Don’t want the PC police to do a drive-by.
Polish Hammer
Sure, I’m sensitive because you claim there’s fake dirt being used…ok. He’s barely played a few games on that surface to blame his injuries on that and not the extra weight he’s carrying is just foolish.