The Reds have claimed shortstop Freddy Galvis off waivers from the Blue Jays, Shi Davidi of Sportsnet reports.
This is the second notable waiver claim in the past week for the Reds, who are taking advantage of a system now devoid of an August trade deadline in an attempt to bolster their roster. The Reds grabbed right-hander Kevin Gausman off waivers from the Braves last Monday.
Gausman and Galvis could boost the Reds’ playoff chances this year – they’re five games back of a wild-card spot right now – and will be able to contribute to the club in 2020. In Galvis’ case, he’s on a $4MM salary this year, which the Reds will have to assume the rest of, and can be controlled with a $5.5MM club option (or a $1MM buyout) next season.
Also a former Phillie and Padre, the durable, switch-hitting Galvis, 29, has slashed a respectable .267/.299/.444 (93 wRC+) with 18 home runs and 1.4 fWAR in 473 plate appearances this year. He was expendable to the Blue Jays, who have seen youngsters Bo Bichette and Cavan Biggio come up from the minors this season to grab a stranglehold on their middle infield spots.
The Reds’ middle infield doesn’t boast the type of promise the Blue Jays’ does, on the other hand. Free agent-to-be Jose Iglesias has been dealing with a biceps injury, which has left shortstop of late to the struggling Jose Peraza, and the light-hitting Iglesias’ offensive numbers have largely cratered since a decent start over the season’s first couple months. Meanwhile, having traded Scooter Gennett to the Giants at last month’s deadline, the Reds have turned to a combination of Peraza, Josh VanMeter, Kyle Farmer and Derek Dietrich at the keystone in the past couple weeks. Perhaps Galvis will also factor in at second, though he has spent almost all of his career at short since debuting in 2012.
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Good move. The Reds are playing well.
So do the Jays negotiate a return for Galvis, or does the claiming team simply get him for nothing?
Nothing
Nothing except not having to pay the rest of his salary.
Just a normal waiver claim. Toronto doesn’t get anything back
Get him for nothing but the money owed
My question is if a player has a no trade what happens if he gets claimed
My guess is that he could refuse the claim.
If I remember correctly, a player can only refuse a waiver claim if he’s placed on release waivers. A no trade clause only applies to trades, not waiver claims.
yeah to stop all movement should be a no movement clause
Yes, a player with a NTC can block a movement via waivers.
No, had he cleared waivers, the Reds could have picked him up at a league minimum and the Jays would have had to foot the remaining million. Now, the Jays are off the hook for the entire salary, and Reds eat it. Now, has if he does well in Cincinnati, they can pick him up for a cool $5.5 for next season.
It is my understanding that the Reds will have to pay the remaining $1.mil+, and pay $1 mil buyout if they choose to decline his option. Over $2 mil for a guy to play a month and a half and NOT eligible for postseason seems a bit much, but, I am guessing, in their eyes, he is better than the alternatives and they are banking on his success and cheap contract for next season..
Galvis is post season eligible …
You got that all wrong but seemed so convincing
He would be eligible for postseason and he didn’t get dfa’d he got placed on waivers
They could have pulled him back or released him if nobody claimed him.
My question is if he has a no trade can a player refuse going to a team he doesn’t want to go to
@steelerbravenation yes, NTC’s allow the player to refuse a move on waivers as well.
No more Aug waiver deals starting this year.
Ability to pull player back from waivers is no longer a thing. Jul 31 was the revocable deadline.
Either claims and claiming team pays, (Gausman/Galvis)
Or passes through waivers, becomes FA, releasing team pays. (Panik)
Postseason deadline still Aug31 as far as I can see.
He is eligible for the Post Season for sure.
Talented player. Wasn’t aware he was released…
Not released. Placed on waivers.
But was he placed on release waivers?
No, outright waivers. Which means if he cleared them, he could’ve either accepted an outright assignment to the minors (and as such been removed from the 40-man roster), or, since he’s been in the league long enough, reject that in favor of free agency.
I don’t get this why did Toronto waive him?? bWAR 1.6 this year. Toronto fans??
No idea, he’s been one of the most productive players on the team and an excellent mentor to the rookies. Also affordable and with a bit of control. Weird to give him away for nothing.
Toronto is trying to fool other teams by pretending not to know what they are doing. Part of their master plan is to play loose and foolhardy with their assets for a long enough stretch of time that no one will see their genius plan coming after they launch it…. in 5, 4, 3, 2 ….
Youth Movement
They need to get Biggio and Bichette into the lineup everyday. They probably tried to deal him at the deadline but got no interest and didnt think that would change in the offseason. Why lay $5.5 million to a backup middle infielder? Theyd be better off using that money to take a snall financial risk on someone who play positions of need.
Clearly the Reds were interested. So that narrative can be scratched from the conversation.
I forgot that being willing to pick a guy up on waivers without giving up any assets and being willing to give up assets for a player in a trade are the same thing…
Exactly
Not to mention that every other team in the AL and every team worse than the Reds in the NL passed for free on waivers. And I’m almost certain the Reds wouldn’t have been interested on the deadline day considering Iglesias was healthy at that time.
What he said….
Why not?
He’s not getting much playing time, the seasons pretty much done for Toronto, and now somebody else pays him next year
Galvis has been playing nearly everyday. He hasn’t blocked Bichette or anyone else.
There’s 1.5 months left in the season and they’re far out.
Because they aren’t contending and didn’t plan on exercising his option for 2020. This way, some other team is on the hook for his buyout this offseason.
What is questionable however, is the fact that Toronto didn’t trade him to the highest bidder at the deadline.
Tatis that is the angst for Jays fans; to say a deal could not be reached at the deadline is ridiculous.
Idk what was offered but if even anything was, taking it would have been better for Toronto than letting him go on waivers. Remember what my namesake was when he was traded.
Trouble with the timing is that they waited until just before the deadline to call up Bichette and I don’t think they dump Galvis without some comfort knowing that Bo would settle in to the Show nicely. Of course, that seems to be established quicker than they could have hoped for.
So if we are to call Jays management idiots, do so for the fact they could have called up Bo earlier. But if you really believe they are idiots, you might guess that they would have packaged Galvis with Giles to acquire a 28 year old DH who hasn’t been able to prove himself yet. So perhaps it is better they just release Galvis.
If there was any deal on the table. I’m not sure why that has to be a lock. 18 teams could’ve had him for free and passed. The orioles will not be bringing back Jonathan Villar next season and were aggressively shopping him. Only the cubs were rumored to be interested. Once the cubs acquired Tony Kemp there was no deal to be made. I don’t even think the Reds were a lock to be interested in Galvis on deadline day. Iglesias wasn’t hurt at that time. I don’t think there was much of a market here. The fact that no one in the AL even took a bite should signal that.
There were plenty of contenders they could have dealt with and chose not to. After dealing Sanchez suddenly the Jays press have leaked little hints about starting pitching issues, and thus the Godley pickup. Jays could have called Atlanta (they wouldn’t. Another problem) and worked out a deal involving Gausman and a teenager. There’s one. I’m sure there are others. Before you argue against the Gausman idea, remember the Blue Jays are not in contention with no pitching depth and will need a start for next year. They still do. Mets are another team they could have negotiated with. Nonetheless the Jays really should have traded Galvis at the All-Star break and didn’t. Why? Bo Bichette.
Why would a Gausman trade have any implications? That’d be more money on Atlanta’s payroll for taking Galvis back. Atlanta got rid of his salary. They didn’t want more salary back for a utility infielder. They have two backup SS’s already in Culbertson and Camargo.
Please enlighten me to who exactly was going to trade for Galvis when 2 weeks after the deadline how many teams had the opportunity to pick him up for nothing but money & chose to pass
Sorry Atlanta wouldn’t have wanted him either. SS is the least of our issues even with Dansby out.
Cool story bro
there is zero reason not to hold him until the off season and then trade him.
ridiculous!
Galvis was great with the Jays, but they have brought up the kids Geurrero, Bichette. and Biagini and they are the future and suddenly Galvis wasn’t seeing the playing time he deserves. He will be missed in the clubhouse and Red’s have got a really good player.
They don’t have to pay the rest of his salary or the opt out. Bichette is going to get 90% of the time the rest of the way. That they got someone to take his money is a good move.
One thing for sure, Phreddy Galvis has a great glove…
That’s a shame. Galvis was having a decent year and in every article written about him this year, it stated that he was a good clubhouse guy and a good influence on the rookie players, especially Vlad Jr and Gurriel. Toronto should’ve kept him around for the rest of the season.
How does this help the bullpen?
Freddy Galvis wasn’t worth anything in a deadline trade? Galvis wasn’t worth keeping and picking up his option? Galvis was worth waiving in Mid-August? Galvis wasn’t worth dealing after picking up his option this offseason?
Why not waive Smoak? At least give Tellez reps at first base. Great for Bichette. Or is it?
Trust the process, Jays fans said…
It’s not that he wasn’t worth anything at the deadline I think it had more to do with the timing to see if Bichette was ready. If he came up & fell on his face for a couple weeks than Galvis would have an important role moving forward. With Bichette coming up doing work why have Galvis there. Reward the man for what he gave them. Give him the opportunity to play in a WC race and get a rapport with his teammates for next year.
So Bichette “not being ready” is assessed after two weeks? Heck no. Bichette could end the season at .220 with a .280 OBP with zapped power and nobody will remember his hot start unless we do a search online. The Blue Jays had to wait and see if Bichette was ready? No.
This is not a reward. From a technical standpoint there is nothing rewarding about being waived. Once the Blue Jays failed, that’s right, failed the deal Galvis they should have kept him. Waive Smoak and give Rowdy Tellez at bats. If your logic rings true Smoak should have been waived a second before Galvis was.
Rowdy has been given opportunities maybe they are not so sure of him
Rowdy’s tearing up AAA as we speak. I think at 24 he’s earned the right for a lengthy stay in the major leagues.
the only acceptable reason to do this was to let Galvis go to another team if he requested it. can’t see that as the case as he was saying all the right things about mentoring the kids
Or so that someone else could be on the hook for his $1m buyout next offseason.
a million dollars is meal money these days. especially on a team with so little payroll moving forward.
But what exactly do the Blue Jays gain by keeping Galvis for the rest of the year and paying that million dollars?
Freddy Galvis gives the Jays:
1. A quality ballplayer to entertain the fans and support the kids.
2. An option to have him all next year at a very competative rate.
3. Depth becuase injuries always happen.
4. Trade bait in the off season because there will be teams that need a good glove bat SS combination.
That’s lots of value to a club who knows what they are doing.
Ok and all of that is gonna get you who in the offseason a Top 100 prospect????
No so move on when the time is right
If anybody wanted him at the deadline I am sure a deal woulda been made
He barely made it thru all the teams before he did get claimed
In all reality what would you really expect to get for Freddy Galvis ????
It’s not like he was Manny Machado last year or something. The money freed up for the rest of the year was worth it alone.
Something slightly better than the Gyorko deal. I think that’s fair.
And $1million buyout on his option if they weren’t going to pick it up.
Personally I feel he was worth keeping around for $5.5M next year. Great team guy having a strong year. Odds are good there will be injuries/underperformance somewhere next year and he can get some reps there.
Shapiro has talked about raising the floor of the organization after AAs higher risk/higher reward stars and scrubs type of rosters. This however is a move in the other direction. Lowering the floor, increasing risk and financial flexibility… which could improve the team IF used properly. Big if though.
Also reading it could have been Galvis’ agent pushing for a move.
He’s had a career year offensively. If he can do it again next year he could be looking at a nice free agent contract. Likely not happening as Bo’s backup though.
Maybe it is the Jays doing him a favour after not being able to trade him at the deadline.
smoak probably is on waivers but hasn’t been claimed
Werealljustguestshere what you said. Something smells in BlueJay Mgmt land. This guy is a money guy on all fronts. Unebelieveable.
But I will suggest it is about the $2 M salary and buyout. I wondr how much of every nickel that Shapiro gives the Rogers board goes into Shapiro pocket as a bonus.
The test will come in the offseason if they back up their claim about spending money on pitching.
Smoak should be gone and Tellez up in the bigs for sure.
This front office has to he one of the weirdest in baseball…
Agreed GB.
Why keep him around for the rest of this season ???
Like everybody said he is having a productive season and he has done everything right. Why keep him around if he is not a part of their future. Give him an opportunity to go somewhere he is wanted, give him a chance to play for something this year and get the ball rolling towards being a part of something next year.
Galvis has a few good years left he is not that old man mentor type of player yet.
I commend the Blue Jays for this
Because if he’s as productive as you say the Blue Jays could have, and should have, traded him two weeks ago. Option B is pick up his option. Nothing commendable here.
Yeah cause Freddy Galvis is gonna get you a top 100 prospect. I mean be for real who were their competitors for his services at the deadline???
Nobody
Was Freddy Galvis at what they owe him & his buyout worth giving up an asset for ???
I am sure they shopped him and I am sure they spoke but at the end of the day the Reds felt he was wasn’t worth getting if it meant giving something up for him
Now he is available for basically money they moved on it
Why would the Blue Jays risk picking up that option and then not be able to move him ????
Why get stuck with that money on the books for a guy that you hope doesn’t play.
They are rebuilding if Bichette falls on his face later there are a dime a dozen guys you can get cheaper to fill that role
Galvis could have been had by many contenders. In fact, he could have been packaged to the Mets with Stroman had the Jays GM been a real negotiator.
Was Galvis worth the $5.5 mil? Yes. Was he taking away playing time from Biggio and Bichette? No.
Why risk picking up the option? Because the Jays have nothing to lose if they could not strike a deal. So long as Smoak is out of the picture in 2020 all involved would get ample playing time. Bo, Vlad, Biggio, Tellez, the outfielders and Galvis. Even Drury.
Yes Galvis could have brought something back. Could that something turn out to be nothing? Absolutely. To say Galvis could not be moved at the deadline is a lie and a testament to how weak the Jays front office is.
Mets were never taking Galvis. This was all before Cano got hurt. Rosario is the SS. Jays got a couple of good arms for Stroman. Woods-Richardson will be ready in a couple of years. That’s around time Jays will be ready to compete.
1. Injuries happen 2. All world prospects sometimes disappoint.
Smoak needs to be waived now too.
Wow! Moved for nothing. This front office is a joke. Smh
Saved them a couple million bucks with the remaining salary and his buyout.
Teams likely thought he wasn’t worth taking for a prospect at the deadline. Can’t trade a guy when no one wants him. But for free? Someone in the wild card race was likely to take a flyer.
Jays did the guy a solid. Man with his skills will be valuable on the Reds I think.
I like what the Reds are doing
With this single trade deadline I think you will see a lot more teams start picking guys up they think can help them the next year.
How is Iglesias “light-hitting” at .287 with 8 homers?
he’s just injured right now, though maybe this move hints at it being more serious than the FO has said
well nvm that, Iggy is starting tonight.. bigger implications for next season then..
That’s the narrative……..
Yet over the past number of years, Iggy has a higher BA then Bryce Harper.
Go figure.
Does 8 hrs actually mean anything all at in today’s game? With a juiced ball in the AL East playing at the Rogers Center? It’s relative. He’s a below league average hitter that is an exceptional defender. The description is apt.
He has traditionally been a defensive star with a light bat. He was the only player in the lineup for the reds to get off to a hot start…that has been cooling since the All Star break.
Iglesias is on a one year deal which was originally a minors deal, as is Dietrich, and will likely be in for a pretty sizeable pay increase.
With Scooter gone, Peraza still not pulling away from the pack (yes, he is still going) and the minors not teeming with prospects to man the middle infield, this is a love for next year as much as it is this season.
I LOVE what the Reds FO is doing, smartest group to be in there since Wayne Krivsky was in his short leash.
That’s nothing for this year’s offensive number and that ballpark
I get what Toronto management is doing, trying to free up a spot for the kids to play everyday and to shed salary to address other needs in upcoming years, but you’d think they could have worked out a trade before the deadline for at least a fringe prospect from somewhere
Reds need some bullpen help if they think they can sneak into the playoffs. This move makes me think they won’t try to resign Jose Iglesias.
Yep I’d say you hit it
Not for what Iglesias likely will want. I wouldn’t have a problem with Iglesias for the cheap though and let one of them wrestle it off to play SS and the other goes to 2B. That would be one wicked middle infield defensively. I mean I like Van Meter but there is a lot of risk handing him 2b next year.
I agree. I really like the way Kyle Farmer has handled second base this season. He’s made several great defensive plays.
I think Blandino will get a lot of time at second next year also
How bout move Senzel back to 2B and go get a CF
You do that and you’re opening up a much larger hole in CF. There are enough usable parts to cobble together at 2B
I’m a little shocked that 10 teams passed at him before the Reds picked him up. Obviously they would mostly all be rebuilding teams…but still.
I agree. Galvis is better than any infielder the tigers have. But they aren’t interested in winning.
What would the Tigers possibly gain by picking up Galvis? The inability to receive assets for him while paying him at the same time?
Well the Tigers could’ve had interest for next season. He had a club option. They paid Jordy Mercer the same rate this year. Of course they passed and probably think they can find a comparable option in FA who is cheaper. Which I tend to agree with. Jonathan Villar should be non tendered by the O’s and command around the same rate if you want a better offensive player. If you want
D guys like Hechavarria and Iglesias will be out there. Probably saw too many alternatives to commit to paying Galvis.
The Reds recognize opportunity. I’ve never seen a team improve so much from one season to the next.
The Tigers blew it. Freddy Galvis is so much better than Ronny Rodriguez, Gordon Beckham, Dawel Lugo, Jordy Mercer and every other Tiger IF. MiLB players would have to prove they were better than Galvis to play.
What would the Tigers gain? An improved team. Having an actual quality player on the field. A player these young guys can look at and say, “Oh, that’s what I’m supposed to do.” God forbid the Tigers actually try and win a game.
Yeah, its not the goal.
@Melchez what’s the point of that? To make a run on the Orioles and the 2nd worst record in MLB?
If your question is in earnest, none of the Tigers vaunted prospects are proven. Freddy Galvis is a proven damn good player. On the Tigers, he would be a standard bearer and the Tigers could work on other areas in need.
This is simply a calculated salary dump for TOR. After all, $2M is still a great deal of money.
Tigers would be better off letting those prospects prove themselves. Their record this year is largely irrelevant.
Aren’t waivers league-specific at this point? So that means 20 teams passed on him…..
Weird. There are worse shortstops out there than Galvis, and the price is not at all exorbitant.
I believe the same league first rule went out the window but I could be mistaken…
I thought Freddy would be traded at the deadline. he clearly was only ever a gap filler and as many have pointed out already, they need more everyday playing time for Bo Bo and “the Beeg II”. There is only so many spots and also $5.5 mm is a little steep for a back up. Galvis will also now get more playing time and the potential opportunity to make it to the playoffs which he also deserves. Thank you Freddy Galvis for your time here. You are awesome!
Good move for the Reds. Nice to see that unlike any number of teams that have surrendered the season they are trying to go for it. Good for their fans.
J-Iglesias is a Boras client. That’s makes a new contract with the Reds unlikely, although he is definitely worth a reasonable offer. Don’t agree with the article on him tailing off. He’s maintained a .280+ BA all season with a good number of key hits recently.
Galvis pick up was a sweet move by the FO. Identified a real issue that needed a fix and got it done at a reasonable cost.
This tells me Senzel is in CF for good. No roll out to 2B. Peraza/VanMeter/Farmer have that handled.
Jose Iglesias is with MVP Sports Group, not Boras.
Granted MVP clients don’t really sell themselves short either.
According to Baseball Reference, Iglesias is with the Boras Corporation.
He left Boras 2 years ago. He’s with MVP now. You can look at MLBTR’s agency database if you don’t wanna take my word for it.
This makes the Scooter trade even more puzzling. It makes no sense. I could have understood it if they had gotten a prospect, even a lotto ticket prospect, but to give him away for cash to a team you are competing for the Wild Card with makes no sense whatsoever.
They got a PTBNL. Not sure why cash is still being reported by sites.
PTNBL or cash. Which likely depends on Scooter’s contributions in SF. Galvis has an option for next season so this still makes sense. Article states Iglesias is dealing w a bum shoulder and they need a more suitable SS replacement than Peraza. They may opt to pick up Galvis’ option rather than sign Iglesias or back. Or at the least I suppose Galvis gives them some insurance in case Iglesias is seeking a multi year deal. It makes sense as a free roll waiver claim given their current situation.
Scooter has 0.00 defensive value and his bat wasn’t contributing anything either. He’s better than he’s shown but 3 months in IL and the Reds needed something more than hopping his bat would come around
Good move for the Reds. I’ll miss Galvis, he was great this year. I have no idea why we didn’t trade him for something at the deadline. It’s not like I expected some big time prospect or something for him, but am I seriously supposed to believe that there wouldn’t have been some team who’d give us a couple of prospects that would be ranked around #25 or so in their system for a guy who has had a nice season, is durable and known as a good leader and has another year of control for a pretty palatable price tag? Eric Sogard (who I love and am glad to see him thriving with the Rays) got us two PTBNL (not that I expect them to be much) and Galvis gets us nothing other than not having to pay him?
I know that the kids are getting a shot and I’m all for that, but we really couldn’t have traded Galvis a little while ago for a bag of peanuts even? Meanwhile we throw in Cal Stevenson into a confusing trade for absolutely no discernible reason, too, so who knows anything anymore.
You gotta look at what the competition was for Sogard at the time of the deadline that boosted his return.
Look around the league do you see a lot of competition for Freddy Galvis ???
I doubt the Teds would have had any interest at this particular moment if they were not in WC contention or Iglesias was not injured.
I love how ppl believe there are not other factors in trades other than you wanting your team to trade somebody lol
or at least get cash considerations more than the $1M you save this year…
I’m with you all the way bluejays92… Hard to make sense of it.
As a Phillie fan, he’s one of the slickest fielders I’ve ever seen play the position for the Phranchise. Great pickup for a playoff push. At the bare minimum, he’ll be an outstanding late game defensive replacement.
Not excited at picking up a lifetime .248 hitter, surely must have picked him up for his glove and leadership, If only we had a player that could lead, Hit and good defensively, Oh we did and we traded him for a PTBNL. Guess the Salary will at least be good if they pick up the option on him, Too High of a K/BB ratio. Not excited for it, but will give it the year, You know the saying Change of Scenery. At least better than most of our team defensively.
Scooter is, and has pretty consistently been, a liability defensively. Picking up a good glove/decent bat and shipped out a bad glove/bad bat. Love me some Scooter but he’s not hitting at all this year and has zero future with them 2020+.
What do you expect to get during August waivers? Mike Trout? And calling Scooter a good defensive player is a massive stretch…
Nice pickup, good defender with some pop. If i read right there is a club option on him in 2020.
Lol I remember a year ago that roydjt fella was saying the Padres should QO Galvis.
The Reds front office has made several shrewd moves, including this one. Galvis is an inexpensive shortstop who can help down the stretch and next season. He hits well enough, especially for power, that he can be a solid starter on a contending team. I’m impressed that this franchise is operating in this manner. Galvis, too, is a good guy in the clubhouse,
I guess the Blue Jays brass would rather give away a gold glove calibre shortstop, with very good pop in his bat, and a great clubhouse guy for absolutely nothing, just so they don’t have to pay the 1 million buyout in the offseason? As a Jays fan, and someone who’s been watching baseball for a long time now. Let me tell you, Freddy Galvis is a winning player. The other end of the perspective here, is that the Jays can’t offer Galvis the playing time he’d need, moving forward.. And Galvis is more then likely going to have his option picked up by the Reds next season, which will be a contract year obviously.. So, this isn’t all about the Blue Jays, it’s allowing Freddy Galvis having a better chance to extend his career with the Reds, than the Jays. Cause if he were to stay for next year in Toronto for 5 million, the Jays would have to have Galvis come off the bench with Bichette being the future. And that’s not the position Galvis wants to be in going into a contract year. So I guess it makes sense, but to get absolutely nothing? They couldn’t deal him at the deadline for a bag of chips and a can of pop? Come on Atkins..
Good luck Freddy it was a pleasure watching you play and teach the kids. The Red’s are getting a good player who will help them.
Well good luck to Freddy Galvis he deserves to go to a team that will utilize his talents. I wouldn’t surprise me to see Smoak up next on waivers, but that’s not a given, since he’s only got about 42 games left as a Blue Jay. so they may just keep him. But Tellez is ripping it up at Buffalo and he’ll be on the bus north shortly.
And what does it say about the team VP leaving baseball to go and work for the NFL Vikings.
Maybe that’s where Rogers made their mistake, instead of letting Shapiro and Atkins shred the team they should have hired some NHL managers. Maybe Don Cherry to start.
I know the Blue Jay fans are not high on the front office. But who exactly brought Vladdy, Bichette, Biggio & Guerriel into the organization ?
Was it AA ???
Am I to quick with my anger issues towards him for his lack of offseason spending ?
That is a lot of talent so if it was AA’s work getting them in the organization maybe I won’t be so hard on him
AA signed Vlad.
Atkins signed Gurriel.
Bichette and Biggio were in the 2016 draft, which was Atkins first. AA’s scouting director was still around for that draft however.
Danny Jansen and Sean Reid-Foley are showing strong signs of being helpful pieces that AA drafted as well.
AA moved Vernon Wells and Jose Reyes albatross deals to really open up the window of contention that the fans got to enjoy a few years back. Some would never forgive him for trading away Syndergaard, but he generally did a fantastic job when he was with the Jays.
Atkins has been sticking to the Astroball blueprint quite perfectly. Easy to criticize now. No spending. Trying to find diamonds in the rough. But a couple years of being the “Disastros” built the Astros powerhouse, so if a couple years of being the “I Got the Blues Jays” means a powerhouse by 2021, or even next trade deadline, then I’m fully on board. Not in the majority for Jays fans, at least vocal ones, but I’m only getting off the bandwagon to help push so consider my bias as well. If that’s apologist mentality, then I’m fine with that!
Thanks for the info so in your opinion as a Brave fan how long should I give AA the benefit of the doubt ???
I was not fond of his draft this year as the catcher with 1st pick to me was a no brained but the 2nd pick everything I read about him was saying he wasn’t late first material and then when he signed for slot I am still a little confused
But to his credit he came in to the organization and is showing signs of being a player.
I 100% agree. Lots of hater garbage out there from people who just aren’t informed.
Late first round material is pick #21. That is literally a late first round pick. That’s not as if they grabbed a guy who was a consensus 4th round talent at #21 and paid him slot value. You can’t gripe about things so minor like that. No scouting opinion is uniform anyway.
Inherited a playoff team with some strong prospects.
Win a playoff round should be the bar right now.
Strong core in place.
Play in a WS by 2020, win a WS by 2021.
Winning it all this year would certainly add a lot of leash. The pitching though?
He should replace Peraza at second. Despite what the article says Iglesias is actually having a solid year. For a glove first shortstop who wasn’t expected to hit, .287 with 8 homers is commendable… and much better than Peraza is hitting
What I don’t get is there was nothing on the waiver wire about Galvis! While SHATKINS appear to be making moves in order to feed the farm, look at some of the releases or down right carp (I’m carping for comment post reasons) moves they’ve made last 14-months!
Nothing (literally) for Donaldson, signing JoeyBats and then ditching him, that god awful Sanchez move at the deadline (and don’t even tell me that Fisher is playing well cause he’s NOT) and now Galvis being handed out! Who cares if he isn’t getting playing time, you have to get something in return period!
Another stupid move by SHATKINS that may cause enough of a rift that’ll end up costing them a chance at greatness until it’s time to negotiate the trifectas contract extensions!
What an incredibly stupid comment! You have access to players who are put on waivers?
I think that’s the Orioles GM commenting there. Just the bottom of the pile trying to drag down those just above to try to get those feelings of self importance back. Also, he’d like a trade partner willing to accept little in return.
They got what Sanchez was worth… why do you have a problem with that. Would you have liked what they did with Donaldson and just dump him next year for nothing?
Man, how many SS’s does Cincy need? Peraza, Iglesias, and now Galvis? Not to mention Dietrich at second and Suarez at third. Where does that leave room for youngsters like VanMeter and Senzel?
Senzel is in CF as of now
Senzel is in CF for good. Igelsias and Dietrich are FA’s at the end of this season.
Real nice pickup by the Reds.
Dietrich has one more year of control
You are right, Dietrich is controllable for one more year. He’s going to have to rediscover his bat if he’s going to stick with the Reds. On June 1st, he was batting .270/.376/.706/1.082. Dunno if he was hurt for a lot longer than he admitted to, but it’s been a long slide downwards ever since.
Josh VanMeter has taken his spot at 2B, and it doesn’t look like JVM is going to give it up without a fight.
He will be non tendered
You can never have too much talent. The Reds have the 2nd best positive runs margin in NL Central, They are still within shot of the NL Wildcard in 2019 and are clearly all in for 2020. In fact their starting rotation might be the best in NL Central after picking up Bauer.
Now add in Galvis/Iglesias at 2b/SS in whatever order that is going to help an already strong pitching rotation. Dietrich can play all over the field and injuries happen so he should still get his at bats.
As a Cubs fan I am a real fan of what the Reds are doing. I hate it cause they are the 2nd most talent team in NL Central this year IMHO and they might beat up Cubs too much the rest of the year in a tight race. However EVERY team should be making the shrewd moves the Reds have done since beginning of 2019 off season to improve their team and creating a good team. This is a smart FO zigging while everyone else is zagging (or tanking).
VanMeter will get a shot at 2b this and next year.
Galvis is the SS for next year.
Iglesias is gone after this year, this was clear after the Galvis claim.
Peraza will likely be the utility guy next year but will get AB’s at several positions including OF.
Dietrich is a likely non-tender based on how little he has played in the last 2 months. Guy doesn’t even start against RHP any more.
Senzel will stay at CF
With this way of thinking, (or lack there of) there’s no point in holding on to Smoak either.
Remember the Jays are in a full blown [intentional but unannounced] tank. They have to be. No one is that bad at managing a MLB level roster and getting so little out of good MLB level assets.
Plus there are serious Rogers money issues in behind the scenes. Every nickel that the Jyas can save, they do save. All is not what it seems.
He was a 93 wRC+ player which isnt good at all. Also he is only 69 wRC + in the 2nd half. That kind of production ain’t bringing anything back. The guy replacing him just set an MLB record for most extra base hits in his first 15 games. Imagine what he would do if his wrists and core weren’t triple A . #doubteyes
Don’t have time to read all of the comments but seems like a simple move to me. No trade interest at the deadline, can’t be traded now, Jays keeping 13 pitchers do only 1 backup inf., Drury can play 6 positions and his bat is smoking hot, Galvis only good at SS. What other move could be made. Not a huge fan of the FO but fans of this team have gone over the edge in their ridiculous comments.
Agreed