10:02pm: Inciarte’s injury does indeed look “significant,” Mark Bowman of MLB.com tweets. The Braves will further evaluate him Saturday.
7:17pm: Already facing mounting health challenges, the Braves are now left with another potentially significant injury. Center fielder Ender Inciarte was removed from tonight’s game with what the team is labeling a right hamstring injury, as David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution was among those to cover on Twitter.
After a slow start at the plate, Inciarte suffered a lumbar strain that robbed him of a significant chunk of the season. While his status with the club once seemed in question, Inciarte has been on fire at the plate since returning. He’s now a critical part of the team’s outfield mix with Nick Markakis and Austin Riley on the shelf (and the latter having endured a lengthy slump).
While we won’t know more about Inciarte’s status until he has undergone further medical review, it’s quite worrisome to see him limp off with a hammy problem. There are just six weeks left in the regular season, with the postseason beckoning thereafter, so there’s not much time to give a significant muscle injury adequate rest. The club will have to hope that it’s just a low-grade strain.
Earlier today, the Braves demoted Adam Duvall and Johan Camargo, both of whom have struggled at the plate in recent weeks. The former seems like an obvious replacement option — that’s the entire reason he was tendered a contract and kept all season long, after all — and he’ll be able to come right back from Gwinnett without waiting the usual ten days if Inciarte hits the injured list. But that would leave a suboptimal outfield group to supplement Ronald Acuna, with Duvall potentially joining Matt Joyce, Charlie Culberson, and Rafael Ortega as options.
If Inciarte ends up being diagnosed with a significant injury, it’s likely the Braves will end up taking a hard look at the waiver wire for upgrades. Left-handed-hitting speed demon Billy Hamilton did just come available today; he carries a generally similar profile to Inciarte, albeit with much lesser abilities with the bat. Some will no doubt raise the call for top prospects Christian Pache and Drew Waters. It’d certainly be a bold and fascinating gambit for the team to promote either of the talented twenty-year-olds, though there’s no real indication whether that will seriously be considered.
I don’t know about any of you, but the fact he still ran home to score instead of just falling to the floor shows how much he cares about his team. That right there is how you gain respect!
In other news, I guess I got excited too soon with the demotion of Duvall. He will be back!
Welcome to the board by finally posting something reasonable.
First time this Dumb A has ever posted anything resembling rational thought. I would still pay good money to ban his sorry A
Go find another forum/comment section to impress everyone with your pahsitivity!
Dude, you’re comments are bleak af.
Time to pick up Shane Robinson from the Phillies in a corresponding move.
I agree AllOurGods has NO CLUE!
That hurts. Don’t know how they are going to replace him unless Duvall gets called right back up. Ender is the better player at this point though.
hopefully Inciarte is back quickly.
Honestly, it didn’t look like a quick return. It looked like he pulled it completely.
I’d say Pache or Waters is called up w/ Duvall.
Be kinda hard to create another 40 man spot. I’d guess it’s only going to be Duvall coming up.
O”day is a UFA in 2020, cut him loose. There’s your 40 man.
he’s already on 60 day IL I believe which means he’s not on the 40 man
Heck, bring up waters or pache! Do it! I vote waters!
Who are you DFA on the 40 man roster ?
O’Day
O’Day is on the 60 so you’re going to have to choose another.
Move Dayton to the 60 day. Or cut Tomlin and allow Bryse Wilson to assume his role. It’s not necessarily a role that Wilson couldn’t fill easily. There are ways to do it, just might not be the easiest. Could also cut Ortega, call up Duvall and Waters/Pache. Ortega is hardly untouchable. If it was me, I would waive Flowers, call up Jackson to assume his role and create a 40 man spot that way, but I know the Braves won’t do that. So refer to the other options. LoL.
That’s shortchanging Wilson’s development.
Flowers has a lot more experience and he can at least hit a little. Jackson may never be able to hit MLB pitching and McCann can’t play every day. Bad idea!
Walker can do everything Tomlin is doing.
Dayton
Ortega would be the guy that gets removed from the 40 if they were going to bring 1 of then up.
Obviously they brought Duvall back but if they decide in September or sooner to bring one of them up Ortega would likely be the man out.
Strange that the game on tv says they are doing further testing before announcing anything…?
All we know as of this moment is that he was removed with a hamstring injury. But I also discussed what might hypothetically occur if it turns out he requires an IL stint and may miss a significant chunk of time.
He tore something. He basically used one leg to score from 1/3 of the way down the 3rd base line. Go back and watch the highlight and you’ll see
Yeah I noticed watching it live, ender seemed to know you could tell after he scored and his reaction
Looks like AAAAdam Duvall is headed back up
At least he has gold glove defense
If we see enough injuries in August in the next few years, they will probably revert back to the previous trade system.
Lol go sod off.
Have faith, although this team isn’t an absolute super power yet it could surprise anybody if folty & fried can just keep pitching like #2’s the rest of the way and into the postseason. (The next decade looks all too promising with 2 very exciting outfielders on the way and a potential ace coming.)
Need the top 4 in the lineup to continue to rake from now into the postseason. This team showed a lot of guts last nite making it close at the end as always.
That championship might not happen this year (maybe it will), but it’s coming very soon!
why is it happening soon? Enlighten me what the Braves have vs 10+ other teams?
Because right now they have zero dependable arms in the bullpen, only one dependable arm in the rotation, 3 dependable hitters heading into 2020.
Then you have a bunch of minor leaguers who have done nothing and here you are assuming they will all prosper. I bet you they won’t!
They will regret wasting this year and assuming it is all rainbows and unicorns going forward.
With the injuries piling up, Nationals playing well, I’m 100% confident the Braves will not in the division picture by the end of September.
I’m okay with this though. They will get another high prospect pick.
I just screen captured this @AllOurGodsHaveAbandonedUs. I’d like you to be accountable for that by the end of September.
3 dependable hitters? 1 dependable arm in rotation? You got -hit for brains dude….
Unbelievable. Debating the merits of top prospect Pache with AAA vagabond Duvall…..I know, I know, Braves fans are worried about 2021…when likely Pache will wind up being “meh” and hits like, well, Ender, or he’ll suffer some injuries, or the moon will be in the 7th house, and Jupiter will ally with Mars…..
He’s the best player for the position in the system….you’re in a pennant race…..HARD STOP!!!! Let Liberty worry about the money; it ain’t like they haven’t got it.
Pache isn’t hitting at AAA. Between the two, Waters would make more sense based on AAA results, but neither are likely to provide much offensively right now, and yes, it could hinder their development.
And exactly how will it “hinder his development”? Oh, he’ll have to adjust to MLB pitching; he’ll have to that today, or 5 years from today. Oh, he’ll have to “fit in” in a MLB clubhouse, with solid pros like Freddie and Donaldson, instead of a AAA clubhouse filled with, by definition, failures. And of course we KNOW he’ll get better coaching on the Minor League level. Right…..
Is he “old” enough? Around the world, there are 20 year olds sitting in foxholes, the consequences of their actions being a tad more significant than establishing the worth of their contract.
Just about every scout concurs that his fielding is on the Buxton (or whomever you prefer) level. That gives them pretty much what they had with Ender.
Can’t hit AAA? Ya, after 35 ABs; welcome to Small Sample Size Theater, as BK would say. How about the .815 OPS, with speed, at AA, as a 19 year old.
I guess everyone will feel better if they sign Peter Boujous, or some such guy. But they won’t win any more games that way.
To compare a kid in baseball to a kid in the military is just stupid
Every level he has risen to he needed an adjustment period
He is not an Acuna type and yes bringing him up to the majors to early could hinder his development
Calling a soon-to-be 21 year old a “kid” is not only bizarre, it’s insulting.
Ugh, right on cue this game got ugly from 3-2 to 8-3. Soroka on the mound gives a fighting chance but after that it’s up to a monster nite from the offense and lights out nite from the pen. Playoff team but not WS caliber YET.
Other OF will get DFA.
There you have what I told you, there is no team to beat the dodgers.
the braves and their owners had to spend big look for RP as they did and 2 SP elites no they didn’t and now we see the consequences, they can’t beat the Dodgers and that is a serious problem of division pennants are we fed up right?
Call up Waters, he’ll probably be up to replace Neck next year anyway.
Before you Brave fans wonder who is gonna be in your outfield, you better take a much harder look at your bullpen. The NL East is yours for the taking if you can somehow secure the eighth and ninth innings. Really thought Folty is your best option to close. That guy has nasty stuff.
His stuff is nasty but he can’t throw consistent strikes which is important for a closer or anybody coming out the pen with runners on actually.
Give Ortega a shot at LF for a week or so he is already up and he has never been given a shot
Pache & Waters should not be options we seen what happened with Riley with the strikeouts they are not ready either
If Ortega falls on his face than we are going to have to live with Duvall hopefully a week down in AAA would get back right
The pen is a mess and will continue to be a mess until they get guys who will throw strikes consistently
Looked like they secured eighth and ninth innings the last 2 days so the NL East is almost a lock. They have the depth they need pitching and outfield. As bad as the bullpen has been at times the Nationals pen is twice as bad.
In my opinion Drew Waters should get the call and the counter move is DFA O’Day. Unless of course the insurance is paying him. If that’s the case then place Dayton on the 60 day IL.
This is the move (Dayton to 60 and Waters called up) that in my opinion has the most upside for 2019.
Do you think Waters is ready ???
He strikes out a lot
I think him & Pache need this year & the better part of next year before they come up
I don’t know for every Ronald Acuna there is a Frenchy who got pushed to soon
I think us Brave fans are spoiled with the success of Acuna & Albies
They need to stay the course and let these kids develop a bit more
With this bullpen we are far from a WS contender no need in compromising these young kids before they are ready
The Braves seem to have a reasonable formula for successfully bringing along position players. Their pitchers, on the other hand…
Is it a formula or is it Albies & Acuna are just that good
I believe most Brave fans would agree that Dansby was probably more than likely brought up to early and I believe Riley was as well. Yes he had success but as soon as pitchers started figuring him out he couldn’t make the adjustments and he looked totally lost
Dansby’s call up timeline: debatable.
Riley? Who else were you going to bring up other than Duvall? He was red hot and had nothing else to prove at AAA. Duvall has wound up being Duvall. Can’t lay off ML-quality breaking pitches that are out of the zone.
Riley has some of the same issues, but he had made some adjustments.
Duvall is 30. He is what he is. Good glove, terrific power, zero strike-zone recognition.
Waters and Pache look completely overmatched by AAA pitching. I’d hate to see what they look like in an everyday lineup during a MLB pennant race.
If you choose to call one or both up in September to get a peek at big-league pitching, fine. But they don’t look ready for it now.
I think it’s varied from regime to regime. The Schueurholz/Wren team was terrific developing pitchers. Position players, not so much.
Coppy/Hart seemed to do a better job (for the most part) with position players. But they cheated and got caught. Also, many of the young arms making the bigs are from the Coppy years.
The jury is out on AA.
Some balance would be nice.
Waters doesn’t seem to be lookining over matches in AAA but he is not ready for the majors yet
Pitchers are the hardest to develop
That’s why Coppy drafted a ton of them and the Braves are able to weed out who sticks
Pitchers are the hardest to develop because of command which it feels like all the young pitching prospects lack
Time and experience is what develops command
I agree, jury still out on AA. He inherited most of the key players (Albies, Acuna, Freeman, Swanson, Teheran, Soroka) on the roster now save Donaldson who he paid a lot for.
Is a hamstring a muscle?
Never mind. I stopped being lazy and looked it up!
How things can change in 2 days. Now a lot of assumptions posted 3 to 4 days ago look really stupid. Especially in regard to the bullpen and Ortega & Duvall. Real Braves fans have a little more faith than a lot of you guys.