We just knighted Mets righty Zack Wheeler the top trade deadline candidate in baseball. The results haven’t been there in 2019, but he’s got a power arsenal and is earning less than $6MM on the season. With deadline pressure reaching a breaking point, there ought to be a ton of chatter on him over the next day and a half.
We’ll keep tabs on all the latest right here:
- The Astros are “working hard” to land Wheeler, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription link). Despite the Houston organization’s stated intention to consider controllable starters, it seems the club has fixed its sights on Wheeler. Andy Martino of SNY.tv tweets that one rival exec “fully expect[s]” the ’Stros to come away with the righty.
- Other teams obviously will remain involved until a deal is struck. Last night, Martino cited the Braves, Brewers, Yankeees, Rays, and Athletics as teams with varying levels of ongoing involvement in the Wheeler market. (Twitter links.) That picture could certainly change rapidly, though it stands to reason that each of those clubs will at least want to have a good sense of the price tag as talks work towards a conclusion.
- As they continue to hold discussions on fellow righty Noah Syndergaard, the Mets “still seem much more likely” to ship out Wheeler, Jon Heyman of MLB Network tweets. Frankly, it’s hard to imagine a reasonable scenario where Wheeler isn’t dealt unless the offers are so low that the Mets would rather hang onto him and make him a qualifying offer at season’s end. That’s not a terrible back-up plan, but it makes much more sense to take the bird in hand at the deadline given the evident levels of interest. (As for the concept of a Wheeler extension, that seems far too speculative to drive the team’s deadline strategy.)
whitered
doesn’t he have a suspect elbow or shoulder? not what i’d want.
ColossusOfClout
Pretty sad situation if Wheeler is really the number one trade candidate!
Confortoismyspiritanimal
2nd half of 2018 he had a 1.8 ERA with a .83 WHIP.
He’s extremely skilled. I’ve said this since Day 1 when I saw him pitch in the MLB for the first time – he will have a similar career arc to AJ Burnett. Very high highs, low lows, frustrating control, high strikeouts, ERA that’s going to bounce 2 points year over year.
Goku the Knowledgable One
Crazy if you wouldn’t love getting Wheeler on the Stros.
BartoloHRball
The Mets put him on the IL because of some fatigue, but they were being overly cautious and his side sessions were fine. He pitched today 7IP, 4H, 0R, 0BB, 7K, which seems pretty solid…I’ll probably watch the game tonight after work.
steelerbravenation
Wheeler for Marisnick who says no ?????
MetsFanaticDanny
Mets do.
metnoxious
Already have enough .240 hitters.
howiehandles
Everyone other than the Astrosp
thebighurt619
Marsinick only has 1 more arb year.
Astros want wheeler itll start with a young arm or 2.
heater
Wheeler only a rental. Doubt the return on him will be overwhelming.
Confortoismyspiritanimal
I mean, we don’t need to trade him.
Goku the Knowledgable One
But why not if he’d absolutely rid himself of the Mets org in the off-season.
He’d have signed an extension by now if he had any plans to stay.
whyhayzee
Wheeler has an arsenal but lacks consistent command.
Goku the Knowledgable One
But would be a fine #3 on the Astros espec with that lineup.
Agreed he’s not an ace, but absolutely could be a big factor in a stretch run.
BartoloHRball
Spot on. He has some of the best stuff on the staff, but he just isn’t consistent….yet. He put it together post-AS break last year and demonstrated what he can do, but he has struggled with one blow up inning IIRC. He changed his pitch routine (working more quickly), which combined with increased aggressiveness has paid off for him in a big way. He has been chipping away at an ugly ERA.
MetsFanaticDanny
Wheeler for Seth Beer, Myles Straw & Rogelio Armenteros. Done.
CoachBlake
Too much to give up for a three month rental
nymetsking
Beer and Straw really don’t belong in the same sentence ever. Beer and Jordan Brewer on the other hand.
All kidding aside, Beer projects as a 1B/DH & doesn’t really fit with the Mets. Bukauskas and a lottery ticket perhaps?
thickiedon
Wheeler is being overvalued
arc89
Wheeler stats shows a #3 starter but no ace. on the astros he would be their #4 starter or #5 starter. I doubt he will bring back much.
Vizionaire
you should drink beer through a straw. quite effective.
boo rad
Mets gave up… what, #4 and #6 for Stroman? And appears most think they are to get an even better package for Wheeler…
MetsFanaticDanny
Beer does look more like a DH. Maybe Bukauskas & Straw. Fair value. Bukauskas has looked lost in the minors this year but maybe a change of scenery might help.
JC507JC
Lmfao. No chance they’ll get anywhere close to that return. Mets fans dreaming.
MetsFanaticDanny
Sounds more like Astros fans dreaming of getting a pitcher like Wheeler for a bag of balls. Even if he is a rental, he is a quality rental that could potentially help that team win a championship.
coldgoldenfalstaff
Stroman is controllable, Wheeler is a rental. Nice try.
jbigz12
it’s going to be a lot closer to Wheeler for Framber Valdez + a lotto ticket. Don’t know what you think here. You gave up 2 non elite prospects for Stroman. You aren’t gonna get better ones back here
Buzz Saw
#3 starter who doesn’t stay healthy.
xmadxtiox
Well, there are other teams interested in Wheeler. They don’t have to send him to Houston. Either Houston ponies up for Wheeler or they can look elsewhere. It’s as simple as that.
OrangeCrushCity
Anything beyond an MLB ready arm and a throw in or two is an overpay no matter how you slice it. Wheeler is a rental, and he’s not an ace. Nobody is going to give up much more than that.
Boogaloo
It’s as if Mets fans are watching something the rest of MLB isn’t.
Zack wheeler has an extensive injury history, just came off the DL with a bad shoulder, is a rental and has a 4.8 era in a pitchers park in the national league.
Why again should teams be giving a a top prospect for that? I think it’s because there team is so dumb they assume others must be too.
Boogaloo
They will look elsewhere at the 20 other guys pitching better who didn’t just come off the DL with a bum shoulder
fisharebiting
Not sure why people keep mentioning what they gave up to get stroman like it matters. Them getting Stroman strengthens their position and increases their demand because its one less option that teams can turn to if they can’t get a deal done with the. Mets. They could have literally given up $10 and a pack of Charmin tp, would you still think that’s all they are entitled to ask for for one of their pitchers?
nick1218
yeah but their 4 and 6 of their 26th ranked farm system
BartoloHRball
His underlying stats are much much better? He is also 23rd in WAR for all starters in the league? He already has amassed a 2.7WAR and likely will get to 4.5 to 5.0WAR with a strong finish. That’s worth…..quite a bit. The rental part is what really hampers him (besides the 4+ ERA).
nick1218
remember Wheeler was a highly rated prospect and the Mets got him for a 2 month rental of Carlos Beltran
thickiedon
That took a lot of useless thought
texasfury93
Good proposal, but I don’t see the Astros trading Straw after DFA’ing Tony Kemp. I’d say Beer, Kemp, Arementeros and possibly a PTBNL. Too bad they won’t trade Correa.
A deal for Wheeler/Noah and Nimmo headlined by Correa and Martin would make me happy as an Astros fan…
thickiedon
Horrible proposal. Beer is team’s 1B of the future. He’s flown up the prospect rankings. Straw’s speed will be invaluable during playoffs.
Ralphie
You’re not an Astros fan stop it!
thickiedon
Ok. I will. Sorry…
didi gregorious nose
We have a ss in Rosario any scenario the Astros would have to take back rosario.
coldgoldenfalstaff
Why are we trading Correa again? He has 3 more seasons before FA, and the Boras factor is overblown, he represents Altuve and we got a deal done.
Boogaloo
You got a horrible deal done.
30 mil a year for a declining player.
boo rad
Hahahahaha… one of the hottest hits in the game right now. Must be thinking about the Cano deal.
jvent
What about Syn,Rosario and Familia to Houston for Correa,Straw,Arementeros and either Pressley or Josh James.
Mets trade Diaz and Ramos to LAD for Will Smith.
Resign Wheeler.
There’s the Mets SS,CF,C,SP and BP guy.
OrangeCrushCity
Haha! I want some of what you’re smoking.
Bone4233
How about Correa for Carlos Martinez?
HalfAstros7
Woah
bencole
There’s not gonna be a top 100 prospect here
VonPurpleHayes
Wheeler will not see a return like that.
Richard K
Wishful thinking but that will not happened
Strollin
For a rental?? Dream on.
arc89
Often injured starter is not what I want my team to pick up even though they need starting pitching. Wheeler is more of the bottom of the barrel starter. I bet Mets fans would be over joyed if he brought back a good prospect.
didi gregorious nose
Honestly I’d rather keep wheeler get a comp pick and watch the Astros crash and burn.
thickiedon
Ok. I will. Sorry…
66TheNumberOfTheBest
The Astros would be able to resign Wheeler after Cole walks.
Big market teams can almost always make a player “controllable” after acquiring him for the cost of a rental.
thickiedon
So sign him after the season without giving up prospects
66TheNumberOfTheBest
They want to win the World Series in the meantime.
thickiedon
In that case, trade Tucker AND Bukauskas for Wheeler!
JC507JC
^^^Lmfao. That’s way way too much
thickiedon
Duh
astrohirns
Maybe if wheeler had controllable years that would be a package
texasfury93
I would be stunned to see the Mets trade Wheeler to the Astros without netting Corbin Martin or Josh James.
Thomas Walker
Martin just had Tommy John 3 weeks ago. He won’t wont pitch for the next year and a half. That’s not happening.
thickiedon
And James just went on IL
texasfury93
It’s unlikely, but it’s not without precedent. See: Hoffman, Jeff
Brolaf
Martin or James is worth more than the Poo-Poo platter the Mets just sent to TOR for Stroman. So, not happening.
thickiedon
Not really… guessing you haven’t seen James or Martin pitch
Bob Melvin
We are continuing to monitor the progress of all Mets pitchers. Bob
BravesFan80
I don’t see the Mets trading Wheeler within the division, so I don’t think he’ll go to the Braves, which is fine. He’s got some injury and location issues. But we DO need a starter, some bullpen help and MAYBE an outfield bat. I feel like AA is trying to make some moves to acquire those pieces, but something tells me other teams are asking too much in return because they know we have such a deep farm system.
myaccount
Wheeler to Houston for Garrett Stubbs and Christian Javier.
aerainier
Ha. Javier not going anywhere
Strosfn79
This is a fair offer.
The lack of catching in the system is all that makes me think that’s not the deal.
Stubbs is the only catching prospect close to being major league ready. Chirinos is a free agent next year and Stassi will be released after a terrible year (or before if they get another catcher)
The team also has to trade Kemp
I would say Bukauskus and Kemp or a lottery ticket. Or possibly 2 midlevel prospects a pitcher like Ivey or Bielak and an infielder like Pena or Kessinger (all ranked 10-16 @mlb.com)
jedlowrie54
If they could get Bukauskus and Stubbs for Wheeler, I’d be happy.
jjd002
Lol. I’m sure you would.
rwalsh651
You should be happy to just get Bukauskas
Strollin
I wouldn’t even trade Bukauskas for Wheeler straight up. He’s easily the most overrated pitcher left on the trade market. J-Bum, Robbie ray and even Bauer are better pitchers.
DarkSide830
Wheeler for Uquirdy/Armentros, Kemp, and a relief prospect or low level starter
astrosrock
Agree with this. Almost zero value for a guy with two months of control. Worth Tony Kemp and a 25 year old catcher hit .200 in AA—slight upgrade over the Mets last great trade
didi gregorious nose
Perfect then we keep him get a comp pick.
Boogaloo
That’s IF he didn’t accept an 18 million dollar QO which would completely screw the Mets payroll.
And it’s about the 80th pick in the draft, I wouldn’t get to excited.
thickiedon
So you think Wheeler is worth $19mill+ for one yr?
Strollin
Please do. Dude sucks and is nowhere close to what many Mets fans he’s worth.
boo rad
Unless Wheeler absolutely kills it every start he has left, hard to see him not taking the 18+ mil, using next year to build up his value, and ridding the QO attachment heading into FA the following yr.
BartoloHRball
7IP, 0R, 0BB, 7K. That seems pretty good. He should end up with at least a 4WAR, which I think is probably going to be pretty good.
Dan Hunter
Mets need an Mlb ready centerfielder
Chino
Derek Fisher is your man then!
DarkSide830
curious what HOU’s value for Fisher is. could start in the outfield next year with, say, Brantley moving to DH, but they could also roll with their current OF and look elsewhere for a DH. Fisher therefore seems expendable.
aerainier
Alvarez is entrenched at DH. Fisher is a solid corner OF. Nothing flashy, decent power. Like Tony Kemp, hes just on a roster with better players ahead of him.
DarkSide830
whoops, lapsed on Alvarez. guess he only sticks arround if they end up moving Gurriel or Correa then.
thickiedon
I think Fisher has been given his chances with the organization but would be a decent prospect elsewhere
Ralph3rd
How about Myles Straw for Wheeler straight up?
aerainier
Straw is going to single handedly win a playoff game or two with his speed and defense. And, likely seems to be the utility guy Hinch loves to have. He’s not going anywhere.
DarkSide830
Mets can get a Straw-like guy if they want. Tony Kemp is a poor man’s Straw in the DFA limbo, and Drew Ferguson is rule 5 eligible again this offseason.
Strosfn79
Nobody talks about him but Ferguson is “toolsy” and has had another solid season.
He would be on the Astros 40 man if the 25 man wasn’t so loaded with outfielders.
He would be a great piece to this trade.
How about Bielak, Kemp, and Ferguson
Ralph3rd
Kemp doesnt have the same speed or defensive ability. Mets have way too many 2b/LFers. Need CF and SS
thickiedon
I really agree with you regarding Straw’s speed come playoffs BUT Straw’s value is as high as it’ll get right now
harlee71
Loser Mets fans are way over valuing Wheeler.
Too bad they wont take Carlos Correa!
sherlock_
Go get ‘em A’s
jb19
This is going to cost the Astros a 15-20 organizational prospect. Some of these trade scenarios on here are laughable. For a rental 4 starter who has been serviceable at best.
Strosfn79
I think that is what 3 months of Wheeler is worth
But due to competition it will end up being 2 top 10-30 prospects with maybe a lottery ticket thrown in
jb19
Tony Kemp+. Kemp is a fine baseball player. Can play multiple positions and is currently without a team…. Stroman got 5 and 6 from the Mets for 1.5 years of control. Wheeler won’t have as much competition, is not as good as Stroman and has less control.
didi gregorious nose
Yeah but now with stroman out there are less options so his price goes up
OrangeCrushCity
Maybe a little bit. He’s still a rental. I don’t think anybody is giving up a top 100 prospect for him. Mets will have to decide if they can deal with a few mlb ready guys or roll the dice with a comp pick next year.
unsaturatedmatz
Franmil Reyes/Hunter Rendfroe and Kirby Yates to the Red Sox for Andrew Benintendi
DarkSide830
…okay then
bummy
He doesnt have any real injury concerns; and he has great stuff; at times he nibbles too much but he would be a great addition for pennant run
Strosfn79
How about the Astros shio the 3 players they got in the JD Davis trade back to the Mets?
Santana is the middle infielder they need and has moved up the Astros prospect ranks to #19.
Adolph is the CF they need and was at the bottom Astros top 30 until the 2019 draftees bumped him.
Scott Manea is the catcher they need and has had a productive if unspectacular season moving up to A+ after last year in A ball.
I know this won’t get it done since there are no top 15 system prospects.
I just thought it was funny.
HouthonAthroths
Wheeler for Chris Burke and Wandy Rodriguez.
Richard K
I love these rumors folks I doubt the stros will give away anything of relevance for a rental that just is not how Jeff Luhnow operates. If there are on going talks with the mets and we all know the Astros Org is very secretive I assume it is for Syndergaard and not Wheeler.. As many here know another trade chip never talked about is Reddick (although he is doing much better than last season) the stros tried move him before the start of this season and he has one more year of control it is possible both the Mets Org and the Astros are haggling and I would bet Syndergaard is the topic. Just my two cents worth as I think with the rise of Alvarez, the need to keep a Tucker has diminished a bit. This is Poker folks and I believe at the end the chances of Syndergaard being an Astros is 50/50. The Astros and you would not know it from the so-called experts are in a position of strength They already have a 1-2-3 punch in Verlander,Cole and Miley the latter they never mention the stros can win it all with what they have.
thickiedon
My God, I hope you’re right
MrOF
I tend to agree with your assessment of Reddick
MrOF
If the Mets and Astros were to strike a deal for Syndergaard…..I think we will see multiple guys switching sides likely including current contributor(s) on the respective big league squads.
gtb1
Is DeGrom totally off the table? I could see that being another Verlander type surprise.
Richard K
Possibility the stros are known for this
PSUMetsFan
If the Mets trade Wheeler, who takes his spot in the rotation now that Vargas is gone? Kay would’ve been the most likely candidate to get called up, so I guess they’ll do Walker Lockett?
jbigz12
Probably whoever comes back in the Wheeler trade. The Astros have a number of ML ready arms. Not guys you want right now when you’re going for a WS but certainly guys the Mets can use
Michael 35
They scratched Ervin Santana from his start with Syracuse tonight, so do the math on that one.
Armaday
Forest Whitley straight up. That’s very fair. Whitley has a lot of issues of his own.
king beas
Mets would love that
Ralph3rd
How about a deal with Pena and Bukaskas for Wheeler
thickiedon
How bout you finish your coffeee
jjd002
Serious? You just got Stroman without giving up one top 100 prospect… This isn’t the 90s when you gave that up for a number 2/3 rental.
MrOF
If reports are true that the Astros are targeting Wheeler, I would venture to guess the Mets return would be something like Kemp and Armenteros.
jb19
This would be more than reasonable imo
RMenzel
Bukaskas for Wheeler straight up would be fair!!
fabulous61
This site is about useless. They report Thor is the most likely to be traded and Wheeler kept and 10 minutes later they report the opposite.
hiflew
No one is forcing you to stay. Don’t let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
OrangeCrushCity
Something like Kemp and Valdez should get it done.
hiflew
A qualifying offer for Zach Wheeler would be useless. Either he accepts or no one signs him until after the draft. Keuchel and Kimbrel are both far superior pitchers to him and they couldn’t get past the compensation. Whether it should be that way or not is open to interpretation since the production of all 3 pitchers is likely to be far better than the production of 95% of all draft picks. But it is what it is.
oleosmirf
Urquidy, Straw and Armenteros would be a reasonable return. ‘
All three are expendable to the Astros and don’t hurt them long-term as none are (or were) top prospects.
As for the Mets they get much-needed pitching depth in the upper minors and all 3 fit the Mets demand for MLB ready talent.
Chino
Urquidy or Armenteros, but probably not both. Also, I would say Kemp as opposed to Straw.
didi gregorious nose
Perfect then we keep him get a comp pick.
thickiedon
If Keuchel couldn’t get a deal til June, this dude won’t either.
Chino
VERY small chance he declines it if he’s offered the qualifying offer.. He will be more than happy to get paid $19+ mil for one year with the kind of year he’s having.
TradeAcuna
Super exciting for another first round exist or maybe even missing the postseason all together. Then again, I wouldn’t trade all the overrated prospects for an overrated pitcher (Wheeler) anyway.
Boogaloo
Why would Houston want a guy who is pitching to a near 5 ERA in the NL, just had a bad shoulder and gets destroyed by the Yankees?
Chino
Because HOU thinks that they can “fix” him. Historically speaking, they’ve had some luck with other organization’s talent like his.
Abe Froman
I don’t think Houston wants Wheeler. They need someone controlled after this year to make up for Cole leaving in Free Agency. Thor makes more sense. Maybe even Stroman if the Astros send back prospects that are better than the Mets gave up for him
jpersam
I think Straw and Urquidy for Wheeler is fair, for a player who is no doubt going to pitch better with Houston than with the Mets.
Strollin
I hope the Astros pass on Wheeler and get Robbie Ray instead. Wheeler is nothing special and he would just be a rental.
Rich Hill’s Elbow
Wheeler for Stubbs, Paredes, and Javier
bobg529
The only Met pitcher that might get traded is Familia in a salary dump. They will also move Ramos for a bag of balls. The Mets will make Wheeler a qualifying offer of 17 million and because he’s had a disappointing season he’ll accept it and try again. Picking up Stroman was a major upgrade over Vargas. Diaz will be better next season with a new pitching coach and manager.
jakec77
If Mets are somehow able to get a package even close to what they gave up for Stroman I may have to rethink my opinion of BVW.
Atlbravesmania
This is typical, a lot of noise and nothing is done. in the end they will leave with a mediocre change to fill the space if the braves really want to compete vs the dodgers, who are the team to beat, they have to look for 2 SP, 2RP.
Danthemilwfan
He’s 7-6 with a 4.70 era. Why exactly is he #1? Robbie Ray has been great every year. I’d much rather have him