We just knighted Mets righty Zack Wheeler the top trade deadline candidate in baseball. The results haven’t been there in 2019, but he’s got a power arsenal and is earning less than $6MM on the season. With deadline pressure reaching a breaking point, there ought to be a ton of chatter on him over the next day and a half.
We’ll keep tabs on all the latest right here:
- The Astros are “working hard” to land Wheeler, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription link). Despite the Houston organization’s stated intention to consider controllable starters, it seems the club has fixed its sights on Wheeler. Andy Martino of SNY.tv tweets that one rival exec “fully expect[s]” the ’Stros to come away with the righty.
- Other teams obviously will remain involved until a deal is struck. Last night, Martino cited the Braves, Brewers, Yankeees, Rays, and Athletics as teams with varying levels of ongoing involvement in the Wheeler market. (Twitter links.) That picture could certainly change rapidly, though it stands to reason that each of those clubs will at least want to have a good sense of the price tag as talks work towards a conclusion.
- As they continue to hold discussions on fellow righty Noah Syndergaard, the Mets “still seem much more likely” to ship out Wheeler, Jon Heyman of MLB Network tweets. Frankly, it’s hard to imagine a reasonable scenario where Wheeler isn’t dealt unless the offers are so low that the Mets would rather hang onto him and make him a qualifying offer at season’s end. That’s not a terrible back-up plan, but it makes much more sense to take the bird in hand at the deadline given the evident levels of interest. (As for the concept of a Wheeler extension, that seems far too speculative to drive the team’s deadline strategy.)
doesn’t he have a suspect elbow or shoulder? not what i’d want.
Pretty sad situation if Wheeler is really the number one trade candidate!
2nd half of 2018 he had a 1.8 ERA with a .83 WHIP.
He’s extremely skilled. I’ve said this since Day 1 when I saw him pitch in the MLB for the first time – he will have a similar career arc to AJ Burnett. Very high highs, low lows, frustrating control, high strikeouts, ERA that’s going to bounce 2 points year over year.
Crazy if you wouldn’t love getting Wheeler on the Stros.
The Mets put him on the IL because of some fatigue, but they were being overly cautious and his side sessions were fine. He pitched today 7IP, 4H, 0R, 0BB, 7K, which seems pretty solid…I’ll probably watch the game tonight after work.
Wheeler for Marisnick who says no ?????
Mets do.
Already have enough .240 hitters.
Everyone other than the Astrosp
Marsinick only has 1 more arb year.
Astros want wheeler itll start with a young arm or 2.
Wheeler only a rental. Doubt the return on him will be overwhelming.
I mean, we don’t need to trade him.
But why not if he’d absolutely rid himself of the Mets org in the off-season.
He’d have signed an extension by now if he had any plans to stay.
Wheeler has an arsenal but lacks consistent command.
But would be a fine #3 on the Astros espec with that lineup.
Agreed he’s not an ace, but absolutely could be a big factor in a stretch run.
Spot on. He has some of the best stuff on the staff, but he just isn’t consistent….yet. He put it together post-AS break last year and demonstrated what he can do, but he has struggled with one blow up inning IIRC. He changed his pitch routine (working more quickly), which combined with increased aggressiveness has paid off for him in a big way. He has been chipping away at an ugly ERA.
Wheeler for Seth Beer, Myles Straw & Rogelio Armenteros. Done.
Too much to give up for a three month rental
Beer and Straw really don’t belong in the same sentence ever. Beer and Jordan Brewer on the other hand.
All kidding aside, Beer projects as a 1B/DH & doesn’t really fit with the Mets. Bukauskas and a lottery ticket perhaps?
Wheeler is being overvalued
Wheeler stats shows a #3 starter but no ace. on the astros he would be their #4 starter or #5 starter. I doubt he will bring back much.
you should drink beer through a straw. quite effective.
Mets gave up… what, #4 and #6 for Stroman? And appears most think they are to get an even better package for Wheeler…
Beer does look more like a DH. Maybe Bukauskas & Straw. Fair value. Bukauskas has looked lost in the minors this year but maybe a change of scenery might help.
Lmfao. No chance they’ll get anywhere close to that return. Mets fans dreaming.
Sounds more like Astros fans dreaming of getting a pitcher like Wheeler for a bag of balls. Even if he is a rental, he is a quality rental that could potentially help that team win a championship.
Stroman is controllable, Wheeler is a rental. Nice try.
it’s going to be a lot closer to Wheeler for Framber Valdez + a lotto ticket. Don’t know what you think here. You gave up 2 non elite prospects for Stroman. You aren’t gonna get better ones back here
#3 starter who doesn’t stay healthy.
Well, there are other teams interested in Wheeler. They don’t have to send him to Houston. Either Houston ponies up for Wheeler or they can look elsewhere. It’s as simple as that.
Anything beyond an MLB ready arm and a throw in or two is an overpay no matter how you slice it. Wheeler is a rental, and he’s not an ace. Nobody is going to give up much more than that.
It’s as if Mets fans are watching something the rest of MLB isn’t.
Zack wheeler has an extensive injury history, just came off the DL with a bad shoulder, is a rental and has a 4.8 era in a pitchers park in the national league.
Why again should teams be giving a a top prospect for that? I think it’s because there team is so dumb they assume others must be too.
They will look elsewhere at the 20 other guys pitching better who didn’t just come off the DL with a bum shoulder
Not sure why people keep mentioning what they gave up to get stroman like it matters. Them getting Stroman strengthens their position and increases their demand because its one less option that teams can turn to if they can’t get a deal done with the. Mets. They could have literally given up $10 and a pack of Charmin tp, would you still think that’s all they are entitled to ask for for one of their pitchers?
yeah but their 4 and 6 of their 26th ranked farm system
His underlying stats are much much better? He is also 23rd in WAR for all starters in the league? He already has amassed a 2.7WAR and likely will get to 4.5 to 5.0WAR with a strong finish. That’s worth…..quite a bit. The rental part is what really hampers him (besides the 4+ ERA).
remember Wheeler was a highly rated prospect and the Mets got him for a 2 month rental of Carlos Beltran
That took a lot of useless thought
Good proposal, but I don’t see the Astros trading Straw after DFA’ing Tony Kemp. I’d say Beer, Kemp, Arementeros and possibly a PTBNL. Too bad they won’t trade Correa.
A deal for Wheeler/Noah and Nimmo headlined by Correa and Martin would make me happy as an Astros fan…
Horrible proposal. Beer is team’s 1B of the future. He’s flown up the prospect rankings. Straw’s speed will be invaluable during playoffs.
You’re not an Astros fan stop it!
Ok. I will. Sorry…
We have a ss in Rosario any scenario the Astros would have to take back rosario.
Why are we trading Correa again? He has 3 more seasons before FA, and the Boras factor is overblown, he represents Altuve and we got a deal done.
You got a horrible deal done.
30 mil a year for a declining player.
Hahahahaha… one of the hottest hits in the game right now. Must be thinking about the Cano deal.
What about Syn,Rosario and Familia to Houston for Correa,Straw,Arementeros and either Pressley or Josh James.
Mets trade Diaz and Ramos to LAD for Will Smith.
Resign Wheeler.
There’s the Mets SS,CF,C,SP and BP guy.
Haha! I want some of what you’re smoking.
How about Correa for Carlos Martinez?
Woah
There’s not gonna be a top 100 prospect here
Wheeler will not see a return like that.
Wishful thinking but that will not happened
For a rental?? Dream on.
Often injured starter is not what I want my team to pick up even though they need starting pitching. Wheeler is more of the bottom of the barrel starter. I bet Mets fans would be over joyed if he brought back a good prospect.
Honestly I’d rather keep wheeler get a comp pick and watch the Astros crash and burn.
Ok. I will. Sorry…
The Astros would be able to resign Wheeler after Cole walks.
Big market teams can almost always make a player “controllable” after acquiring him for the cost of a rental.
So sign him after the season without giving up prospects
They want to win the World Series in the meantime.
In that case, trade Tucker AND Bukauskas for Wheeler!
^^^Lmfao. That’s way way too much
Duh
Maybe if wheeler had controllable years that would be a package
I would be stunned to see the Mets trade Wheeler to the Astros without netting Corbin Martin or Josh James.
Martin just had Tommy John 3 weeks ago. He won’t wont pitch for the next year and a half. That’s not happening.
And James just went on IL
It’s unlikely, but it’s not without precedent. See: Hoffman, Jeff
Martin or James is worth more than the Poo-Poo platter the Mets just sent to TOR for Stroman. So, not happening.
Not really… guessing you haven’t seen James or Martin pitch
We are continuing to monitor the progress of all Mets pitchers. Bob
I don’t see the Mets trading Wheeler within the division, so I don’t think he’ll go to the Braves, which is fine. He’s got some injury and location issues. But we DO need a starter, some bullpen help and MAYBE an outfield bat. I feel like AA is trying to make some moves to acquire those pieces, but something tells me other teams are asking too much in return because they know we have such a deep farm system.
Wheeler to Houston for Garrett Stubbs and Christian Javier.
Ha. Javier not going anywhere
This is a fair offer.
The lack of catching in the system is all that makes me think that’s not the deal.
Stubbs is the only catching prospect close to being major league ready. Chirinos is a free agent next year and Stassi will be released after a terrible year (or before if they get another catcher)
The team also has to trade Kemp
I would say Bukauskus and Kemp or a lottery ticket. Or possibly 2 midlevel prospects a pitcher like Ivey or Bielak and an infielder like Pena or Kessinger (all ranked 10-16 @mlb.com)
If they could get Bukauskus and Stubbs for Wheeler, I’d be happy.
Lol. I’m sure you would.
You should be happy to just get Bukauskas
I wouldn’t even trade Bukauskas for Wheeler straight up. He’s easily the most overrated pitcher left on the trade market. J-Bum, Robbie ray and even Bauer are better pitchers.
Wheeler for Uquirdy/Armentros, Kemp, and a relief prospect or low level starter
Agree with this. Almost zero value for a guy with two months of control. Worth Tony Kemp and a 25 year old catcher hit .200 in AA—slight upgrade over the Mets last great trade
Perfect then we keep him get a comp pick.
That’s IF he didn’t accept an 18 million dollar QO which would completely screw the Mets payroll.
And it’s about the 80th pick in the draft, I wouldn’t get to excited.
So you think Wheeler is worth $19mill+ for one yr?
Please do. Dude sucks and is nowhere close to what many Mets fans he’s worth.
Unless Wheeler absolutely kills it every start he has left, hard to see him not taking the 18+ mil, using next year to build up his value, and ridding the QO attachment heading into FA the following yr.
7IP, 0R, 0BB, 7K. That seems pretty good. He should end up with at least a 4WAR, which I think is probably going to be pretty good.
Mets need an Mlb ready centerfielder
Derek Fisher is your man then!
curious what HOU’s value for Fisher is. could start in the outfield next year with, say, Brantley moving to DH, but they could also roll with their current OF and look elsewhere for a DH. Fisher therefore seems expendable.
Alvarez is entrenched at DH. Fisher is a solid corner OF. Nothing flashy, decent power. Like Tony Kemp, hes just on a roster with better players ahead of him.
whoops, lapsed on Alvarez. guess he only sticks arround if they end up moving Gurriel or Correa then.
I think Fisher has been given his chances with the organization but would be a decent prospect elsewhere
How about Myles Straw for Wheeler straight up?
Straw is going to single handedly win a playoff game or two with his speed and defense. And, likely seems to be the utility guy Hinch loves to have. He’s not going anywhere.
Mets can get a Straw-like guy if they want. Tony Kemp is a poor man’s Straw in the DFA limbo, and Drew Ferguson is rule 5 eligible again this offseason.
Nobody talks about him but Ferguson is “toolsy” and has had another solid season.
He would be on the Astros 40 man if the 25 man wasn’t so loaded with outfielders.
He would be a great piece to this trade.
How about Bielak, Kemp, and Ferguson
Kemp doesnt have the same speed or defensive ability. Mets have way too many 2b/LFers. Need CF and SS
I really agree with you regarding Straw’s speed come playoffs BUT Straw’s value is as high as it’ll get right now
Loser Mets fans are way over valuing Wheeler.
Too bad they wont take Carlos Correa!
Go get ‘em A’s
This is going to cost the Astros a 15-20 organizational prospect. Some of these trade scenarios on here are laughable. For a rental 4 starter who has been serviceable at best.
I think that is what 3 months of Wheeler is worth
But due to competition it will end up being 2 top 10-30 prospects with maybe a lottery ticket thrown in
Tony Kemp+. Kemp is a fine baseball player. Can play multiple positions and is currently without a team…. Stroman got 5 and 6 from the Mets for 1.5 years of control. Wheeler won’t have as much competition, is not as good as Stroman and has less control.
Yeah but now with stroman out there are less options so his price goes up
Maybe a little bit. He’s still a rental. I don’t think anybody is giving up a top 100 prospect for him. Mets will have to decide if they can deal with a few mlb ready guys or roll the dice with a comp pick next year.
Franmil Reyes/Hunter Rendfroe and Kirby Yates to the Red Sox for Andrew Benintendi
…okay then
He doesnt have any real injury concerns; and he has great stuff; at times he nibbles too much but he would be a great addition for pennant run
How about the Astros shio the 3 players they got in the JD Davis trade back to the Mets?
Santana is the middle infielder they need and has moved up the Astros prospect ranks to #19.
Adolph is the CF they need and was at the bottom Astros top 30 until the 2019 draftees bumped him.
Scott Manea is the catcher they need and has had a productive if unspectacular season moving up to A+ after last year in A ball.
I know this won’t get it done since there are no top 15 system prospects.
I just thought it was funny.
Wheeler for Chris Burke and Wandy Rodriguez.
I love these rumors folks I doubt the stros will give away anything of relevance for a rental that just is not how Jeff Luhnow operates. If there are on going talks with the mets and we all know the Astros Org is very secretive I assume it is for Syndergaard and not Wheeler.. As many here know another trade chip never talked about is Reddick (although he is doing much better than last season) the stros tried move him before the start of this season and he has one more year of control it is possible both the Mets Org and the Astros are haggling and I would bet Syndergaard is the topic. Just my two cents worth as I think with the rise of Alvarez, the need to keep a Tucker has diminished a bit. This is Poker folks and I believe at the end the chances of Syndergaard being an Astros is 50/50. The Astros and you would not know it from the so-called experts are in a position of strength They already have a 1-2-3 punch in Verlander,Cole and Miley the latter they never mention the stros can win it all with what they have.
My God, I hope you’re right
I tend to agree with your assessment of Reddick
If the Mets and Astros were to strike a deal for Syndergaard…..I think we will see multiple guys switching sides likely including current contributor(s) on the respective big league squads.
Is DeGrom totally off the table? I could see that being another Verlander type surprise.
Possibility the stros are known for this
If the Mets trade Wheeler, who takes his spot in the rotation now that Vargas is gone? Kay would’ve been the most likely candidate to get called up, so I guess they’ll do Walker Lockett?
Probably whoever comes back in the Wheeler trade. The Astros have a number of ML ready arms. Not guys you want right now when you’re going for a WS but certainly guys the Mets can use
They scratched Ervin Santana from his start with Syracuse tonight, so do the math on that one.
Forest Whitley straight up. That’s very fair. Whitley has a lot of issues of his own.
Mets would love that
How about a deal with Pena and Bukaskas for Wheeler
How bout you finish your coffeee
Serious? You just got Stroman without giving up one top 100 prospect… This isn’t the 90s when you gave that up for a number 2/3 rental.
If reports are true that the Astros are targeting Wheeler, I would venture to guess the Mets return would be something like Kemp and Armenteros.
This would be more than reasonable imo
Bukaskas for Wheeler straight up would be fair!!
This site is about useless. They report Thor is the most likely to be traded and Wheeler kept and 10 minutes later they report the opposite.
No one is forcing you to stay. Don’t let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
Something like Kemp and Valdez should get it done.
A qualifying offer for Zach Wheeler would be useless. Either he accepts or no one signs him until after the draft. Keuchel and Kimbrel are both far superior pitchers to him and they couldn’t get past the compensation. Whether it should be that way or not is open to interpretation since the production of all 3 pitchers is likely to be far better than the production of 95% of all draft picks. But it is what it is.
Urquidy, Straw and Armenteros would be a reasonable return. ‘
All three are expendable to the Astros and don’t hurt them long-term as none are (or were) top prospects.
As for the Mets they get much-needed pitching depth in the upper minors and all 3 fit the Mets demand for MLB ready talent.
Urquidy or Armenteros, but probably not both. Also, I would say Kemp as opposed to Straw.
Perfect then we keep him get a comp pick.
If Keuchel couldn’t get a deal til June, this dude won’t either.
VERY small chance he declines it if he’s offered the qualifying offer.. He will be more than happy to get paid $19+ mil for one year with the kind of year he’s having.
Super exciting for another first round exist or maybe even missing the postseason all together. Then again, I wouldn’t trade all the overrated prospects for an overrated pitcher (Wheeler) anyway.
Why would Houston want a guy who is pitching to a near 5 ERA in the NL, just had a bad shoulder and gets destroyed by the Yankees?
Because HOU thinks that they can “fix” him. Historically speaking, they’ve had some luck with other organization’s talent like his.
I don’t think Houston wants Wheeler. They need someone controlled after this year to make up for Cole leaving in Free Agency. Thor makes more sense. Maybe even Stroman if the Astros send back prospects that are better than the Mets gave up for him
I think Straw and Urquidy for Wheeler is fair, for a player who is no doubt going to pitch better with Houston than with the Mets.
I hope the Astros pass on Wheeler and get Robbie Ray instead. Wheeler is nothing special and he would just be a rental.
Wheeler for Stubbs, Paredes, and Javier
The only Met pitcher that might get traded is Familia in a salary dump. They will also move Ramos for a bag of balls. The Mets will make Wheeler a qualifying offer of 17 million and because he’s had a disappointing season he’ll accept it and try again. Picking up Stroman was a major upgrade over Vargas. Diaz will be better next season with a new pitching coach and manager.
If Mets are somehow able to get a package even close to what they gave up for Stroman I may have to rethink my opinion of BVW.
This is typical, a lot of noise and nothing is done. in the end they will leave with a mediocre change to fill the space if the braves really want to compete vs the dodgers, who are the team to beat, they have to look for 2 SP, 2RP.
He’s 7-6 with a 4.70 era. Why exactly is he #1? Robbie Ray has been great every year. I’d much rather have him