With just over two weeks until the trade deadline, the Rays are scouring the market for upgrades, per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. “What we think of this group and the way they’ve played so far it certainly motivates us to want to help them out however we can,” front office head Chaim Bloom told Topkin. “We want to make sure we do that responsibly, that we’re staying true to our goal of competing sustainably and be able to do this consistently over a number of years. Anything we can do to help them out is something we’re certainly going to look at.”
That the Rays are looking to add comes as little surprise, given the team’s position in the standings. At 54-40, Tampa holds possession of the AL’s top wild card slot, 1.5 games up on Oakland. Following a scorching start to the season, the Rays have fallen off the pace somewhat over the past month, dropping six games behind the Yankees in the AL East. While that deficit isn’t insurmountable with almost half the season remaining, it seems the Rays’ most plausible path to October is via a wild card. Fangraphs’ playoff odds, for instance, give Tampa just an 8.5% chance of claiming the division crown. How far the small-market club is willing to push for, in all likelihood, a one-game playoff, will be interesting to monitor.
The franchise has never been one to set the market, typically hoarding long-term affordable control at the expense of headline-grabbing acquisitions. Given the organization’s historical reluctance to mortgage the future, Topkin cautions against anticipating they make a splash. Nevertheless, as he notes, the time might be right for them to do so.
Tampa Bay’s loaded farm system should force the organization’s hand sooner than later. With myriad prospects nearing Rule V eligibility, the Rays may need to start consolidating high-minors assets. Unlike many 40-man roster crunches, where a team moves a middle reliever or bench bat to clear space, Tampa seems open to dealing high-upside talent. Notably, vaunted middle infielder Vidal Brujan might not be off limits, as Topkin includes him among a list of prospects whom the Rays might consider moving this summer rather than committing a 40-man roster spot to after the season.
To be clear, there’s no indication the Rays are actively shopping Brujan (or any other specific farmhand), but that it seemingly remains under consideration is notable. A 21-year-old switch-hitter, Brujan’s blend of bat control, strike zone feel and athleticism make him one of baseball’s best young talents. Fangraphs’ Eric Longenhagen and Kiley McDaniel and Keith Law of ESPN (subscription required) each place Brujan among the game’s 25 best prospects, in fact, with Fangraphs projecting him as a plus hitter and defender at second base who should offer a high-OBP skillset at his peak. MLB Pipeline and Baseball America are a little less bullish, questioning the amount of impact available in Brujan’s 5’9″, 155 pound frame, but the publications universally laud his hit tool and athleticism.
Unsurprisingly, the specifics of any deal remain up in the air. The Rays have previously been tied to bullpen upgrades, right-handed hitters and starting pitching (specifically, the top starter on the market, Matthew Boyd), all of which remain potential areas to upgrade, per Topkin. It’s not clear exactly how things will play out, but it’s nonetheless notable the organization has positioned itself as a buyer, especially in light of recent comments from GM Erik Neander indicating they might take things slower if they fell too far back in the division. With a farm system replete with talent across all levels of the minors and some hint of a willingness to push forward, the possibilities in St. Petersburg are endless.
Bo schemheckler
Give me Brujan, Baz, Lowe and Pie for Boyd and Greene
osfandan
Thanks for the laugh.
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its_happening
Rays aren’t trading for a starting pitcher that might not be good enough to be in the playoff rotation.
Morton
Chirinos
Snell
McKay or Glasnow if he’s healthy
Boyd isn’t taking one of their spots. Not even Snell, who’s still the reigning Cy Young winner.
Dustin Michels
Boyd for sure would. Snell/Morton/Boyd will be the top three in a playoff series.
its_happening
I guess losing to a AAA team last night still didn’t change your mind about Boyd. He is backsliding. It’s not his fault. He’s never been very good and the truth has come out. Boyd ain’t better than 4 of the names I mentioned. McKay is a rookie with a smaller sample size than Boyd. Rays would be making a huge mistake dealing more than 1 player for Matt Boyd.
Dustin Michels
Stroman did worse against that same “AAA” team you talk about.
114 innings/1.14 whip/3.47 FIP/152K/24BB==Best pitcher on the market.
its_happening
You’re still not getting it.
I’ll also give Stroman a pass for trying to pitch through an injury against KC. Usually KC is automatic for AL East hardened pitchers like Stroman.
Stroman’s road numbers destroy Boyds. Stroman’s home numbers aren’t too shabby.
Stroman pitches against tougher teams in tougher ballparks than Boyd. Boyd is just some guy.
Dustin Michels
Dang you sound like SEC fans in CFB with all the AL east talk.
Stroman has like a 7K/9 and getting towards a 1.30 WHIP…I like Stroman and any team that gets him will be better but Boyd has worked himself to the level where he is more dominant and has more upside in the coming years imo.
Dustin Michels
Boyd is the top SP on the market. Stroman would be #2SP on the market imo.
ronnsnow
Weak market.
DarkSide830
Greinke is better
Dustin Michels
I did not include Greinke because we are not sure if he is on the market for real yet imo.
SportsFan0000
What a ridiculous comment.
Astros are looking for Boyd to slot in @ #2 or #3 in their All Star studded rotation that maybe better than the Rays rotation.
oldleftylong
Yes, ‘stros will land Boyd. And, … will win the WS.
BuddyBoy
You’ve lost your mind. Way overpay
fljay73
Boyd concerns me with long term viability. If the Rays do trade some of their higher end prospects they will surely want some A or AA prospect(s) back that grades out very highly. I still see the Rays focusing in on players that have 2 years or more of Club control. Giants with Bumgarner, Watson & Dyson would be a trade I would inquire about if you are going all in. A trade that would cost prospects in the mid tier of their system.
oldleftylong
Rays don’t have the balls to make a big trade.
fljay73
??
T. Pham wasn’t a big trade last season?
Keeping their top 5 (or so) prospects in the system will allow the Rays to be a better team going forward. Trade the guys who lose their positions to those top prospects. Rays need mostly bullpen help & they have a lot of prospects that are rated in the middle of their system that would be other teams top prospects.
iverbure
Rays don’t have the balls to make a big trade??? Huh? Did you miss last trade deadline?
SportsFan0000
I think he meant the Yankees.
Yankees have been settling for lower level and declining starters for years..
sandman12
Wouldn’t Caleb Smith be a better catch than Boyd? Smith for Brujan?
marlins17
Better not trade Caleb Smith and especially just for Brujan. Would have to be a legit overpay.
fljay73
Have you even seen Braun play?
ClevelandGuardians2021
Take Bauer Tampa.
rxbrgr
And Bauers
ClevelandGuardians2021
Replacing Brantley with him has been tough for me.
matt4baseball
Bauer is a headcase ready to explode any time. Rays stay away.
Lucky-Arm28
Is Lucius Fox off limits?
unsaturatedmatz
Not a chance.
Jerryred
liberatore and shane mcclanahan for mike minor
kylelohse
Cue the ridiculous trade propositions for the Rays to deal their top prospects for middle of the road players or guys having their first decent season in their career.
Jerryred
well that how you make trades u got to give up good players to get good player that why yall are never buyers at trade deadline
kc38
And why we have the 2nd best farm system
Ejemp2006
And zero World Series. Rays have history of not going for the gusto.
Ownership sees this as pure investment. They want tax payer stadium to increase team value, then sell sell sell.
They won’t go for arbitration eligible player. They will go for average veteran starter with cheap contract. Slot addition into their circus style rotation running.
matt4baseball
We are assured to win it all if Detroit trades Boyd to the Yankees! Rays will never trade Franco, Libatore, or McCay unless your trading Sale, Sherzer, Buehler. or Trout,. you have to stop drinking the koolaid.
TB RoHo
The franchise is not that old.No World Series.come on.
fljay73
Rays have to think about the next year+ also. Heck even the Yanks keep some of their top prospects. The only value is certain relief pitchers that have been doing it steady over the years. Stay away from the flash in the pan/1 hit wonders.
Ejemp2006
Young franchise? Yes. But with chances to go for the gusto? Yes. How many times must Tampa fan watch high promise team not pay for the stretch run difference makers? Forever.
So much slugger and pitcher available. But good stuff is expensive, not for a prospect, but for a contract. Their model is tease tease tease. Not, when necessary, spend spend spend.
Encarnacion would have good. Spend? Nope!
Mets pitchers would be good. But even arbitration player is too expensive for Rays.
bobtillman
Can we stop with the “40-man” glut nonsense when approaching the trade deadline? I realize that many fans worry about what will the roster look like in the year 2525, if man is still alive, if women can survive…..but it’s really of no concern.
Like most teams, the Rays have players either on expiring contracts (Garcia, Roe, Drake) or players who are simply marginal; every team has a Jake Faria somewhere. By my count they have at least 7 players now on the 40 who fit one of those two categories (Drake, Gibault, Kittredge, Pruitt, Roe, Wood, Garcia). If there’s any interest at all (there won’t be) in those non-FAs, you simply flip them for lower-service time players; happens all the time.
Yes, they have to activate the 60 IL guys, but I doubt they’ll go out of their way to pay Duffy his likely 5M arbitration award; no one would. So he’s a DFA. Anthony Benboom? Seriously?
They have 4 or 5 guys who need to be protected, but there’s lots of room. It’s tighter for them than many teams (for the Padres too), but again, it isn’t anything of major concern. Certainly not enough to prevent them from acquiring someone to put them over the hump.
spinach
Based on your last paragraph it seems you missed the point of the article. The article posits that the supposed upcoming Rule 5/40-man crunch will *contribute to* them being buyers for “someone to put them over the hump”, but at the end you are arguing that we shouldn’t worry about Rule 5 stopping them from being buyers…when the point of the article is the exact opposite.
jbigz12
Yeah, the whole point of that statement is that they need to clear out some of the prospects who are 40 man eligible. Because you can bet the Orioles, Marlins and Royals will be targeting them in the rule 5 draft. Kittredge isn’t going anywhere either btw. Teams tend to want to get value for their players not just simply watch them walk away. The Yankees did the same thing last year and cleared out their glut of fringe 40 man guys. So, yes Bob it was a valid statement. Not every team is the old Angelos lead orioles that have no concerns about losing any real talent left off the 40 man.
matt4baseball
Glad to hear the Rays are buying! but really it will be trading prospects. Probably for controllable cheap talent as is almost always the case. (Charlie Morton was the unusual case to mention.)
rxbrgr
This Bloom chap looks like a Twilight vampire. Better accompany the team on a road trip, Chaim, and get out of that dome for once.
Polish Hammer
Intend to buy? The cheapest franchise in the sport and they intend to buy? With the credit card they had to get mom and dad to co-sign for? AAAA Florida League champs
ronnsnow
You must be a Yankees fan.
TB RoHo
Please maybe a spoiled Yankess or BoSox fan
fljay73
So you prefer a roster of $20mil+/yr players & that would make them legit?
Melchez
Anthony Franco – Excellent take on the Rays. Are you new to MLBTR?
Anthony Franco
I am! Dylan Chase and I each came aboard last weekend. Thanks for the kind words!
Jim Scott
Grats to you both!
Anthony Franco
Thank you!
ifonlydetroitcoulddraft
The Rays line up well with the Tigers only trade chips. Castellanos would help any team in the playoffs against lefty heavy SP Boston or LA. I suspect one of Boyd, Castellanos, or Greene will be a Ray on Aug 1. And don’t worry, Avila is not great at negotiating so I’m sure he would accept a handful of mid level prospects like he did for JV and JD
falconsball1993
Well he had no choice for JD. He was a FA to be, so the options weren’t in his favor. JV didn’t need to be traded, and Franklin Perez was the #2 SP in the Astro system soooo
ifonlydetroitcoulddraft
Perez was #3. JV should have fetched Whitley or Tucker, soooo
iverbure
JV was due a ton of money and literally every single team passed on claiming him. If he was so valuable as you think he was then, he would not have passed. Quit thinking in terms of your fantasy land values and get back to reality.
Dustin Michels
The level of prospects the Tigers deceit for JV were and are on a whole different level than the JD return.
Not an accurate baseball statement to lump them together and comes across as just Avila hating to me.
ifonlydetroitcoulddraft
I’m a fan of the rebuild and don’t hate Avila at all. It’s a fact he can not negotiate like DD who pried Fulmer away from the Mets for an aging corner OF bat and sold high on Granderson to get Scherzer. Avila has not made a single trade that landed an elite prospect. It’s just a fact. I think he’s a good GM and has the right vision. A shrewd negotiator he is not
Melchez
I see Greene and Castellanos being traded. (Probably for more weak hitting middle infielders) I think Boyd stays. It’ll be hard to trade your best player that is inexpensive for the next 3+ years.
ifonlydetroitcoulddraft
I think you’re right. But I hope a team gets desperate enough to trade the farm for Boyd
ifonlydetroitcoulddraft
I think you’re right, but I hope a team gets desperate enough to trade elite talent for Boyd. However, I love his character and all he and his wife are doing for orphans in Africa. I’d love to see him stay in Detroit as well
SportsFan0000
You vastly underestimate Al Avila’s deal making skills.
If Avila was such a push over, then Verlander would be pitching for the Yankees now after taking one of Cashman’s ridiculous “lowball” offers….
Melchez
Cashman was adamant on trading Blake Rutherford for Verlander. Avila almost pulled the trigger. Problem is, the Yankees had traded Rutherford a month earlier.
Avila dodged a really bone headed move.
oldleftylong
Yankees are Ruth-less
fljay73
Castellanos & Greene would be the 2 players I would target if I was the Rays. Boyd needs to show me another year of being very good before I give up any of my top 5 (or so) prospects.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Rays need offense.
matt4baseball
No they don’t. They need a closer and that’s about it.
SportsFan0000
Rays have a chance to run the table and win the AL East with the right moves…
Get Boyd, Greene and Castellanos for a package of 6-8 top young players and prospects…..
Better to “go for it” now than to lose multiple players in the Rule 5 Draft next year…
(Rays Farms system is overflowing with top talent)…
Go for it!
Get on a roll and pass the Yankees……let the Yankees be the Wild Card this year..
ronnsnow
So you want to completely blow up the Rays window just to try to pass the Yankees this year?
SportsFan0000
Rays farm stystem is loaded.
Rays MLB team is loaded with talent.
It is not just about passing the Yankees.
Rays have a chance to make the WS and win it this year.
At some point, they have to “go for it” to win it all…
A trade for Boyd, Greene, Castellanos would not “blow up” Rays farm.
It clears space on t he 40 man Roster so the Rays can protect even more talent from the Rule 5 Draft too..
its_happening
Boyd doesn’t make the Rays better. In fact Boyd barely makes the starting rotation.
Greene, Jimenez and Castellanos should absolutely be in-play for Tampa. Twins would be the team to look at Boyd. Maybe Boston. Boston has enough prospects for Boyd. We’ve established Boyd is closer to a 4 or 5 than a 2 or 3.
SportsFan0000
LMFAO…
Boyd is at or near the top of most analytical categories..
Dustin Michels
Who has established that Trim?? You and a few others that are butt hurt about the attention he is getting.
Some of the best organizations around around MLB have interest in him to improve their playoff rotation this year and years to come. I’ll lean the way MLB FOs feel about Boyd I guess.
its_happening
Has he been traded yet?
Might want to wait on that argument until a deal is done. If a deal is done.
SportsFan0000
You established nothing more than expose your lack knowledge of baseball players and prospects and serious deficiencies in evaluating talent.
Boyd is a #1 on some teams, a #2 or #3 on others with more pitching depth like the Astros…
Dodgers, Astros, Phillies, Brewers, Rays, Cubs, Red Sox, Padres and more have all expressed strong interest in Boyd…
its_happening
Boyd is not a #1 on any contending team.
Boyd was a #3 or 4 on a bad Detroit team coming into the season.
His road numbers suggests #4 at-best for contending teams.
He’s a #5 on Tampa.
Strong interest in Boyd because of team control and being a lefty? Sure. The asking price? Outrageous. That’s what’s holding up a trade involving Boyd.
oldleftylong
Yes, the Rays need balls.
fljay73
Wow.
A gutting of the farm.
If Boyd falters?
Greene falters?
Rays farm is back to pre ’18 days.
Bummer bummer.
Falling back to the Orioles then.
spinach
If they want to do well in the playoffs including in a win-or-go-home scenario (wildcard) then they should perhaps go after Bumgardner who is known for being good in situations like that. Makes more sense that giving up more for a guy who is under control but peaking and stands a great chance of regressing. (See Fulmer.)
SportsFan0000
Bumgardner had his run and time. but he is not the pitcher he once was and he is a short term rental that the Rays usually pass on..
fljay73
Maybe not.
Prospect cost would be low.
Would allow you to acquire Dyson or Watson then for a bit more prospect Capital.
hammer_time24
Bum wouldn’t be Tampa’s top choice in the wild card game if they had him. At this point in his career, they would start Snell and Morton over him, and possibly a healthy Glasnow
fljay73
Bumgarner as a veteran presence (along with Morton) would be invaluable to pitchers like Snell, McKay & Glasnow. If Bum gets fired up by the trade getting the WS Bum would add icing to the cake. But the Rays would be looking at Watson/Dyson first & foremost.
matt4baseball
Mad Bum is on record as despising the Opener/Bulk pitching the Rays implement. He would never be a positive influence in the Rays cluhouse nor would he agree to play in Tampa.
therealryan
I’m with you. As a Rays fan I want little to do with MadBum. I think his attitude would be a negative for a young, analytical team like the Rays. It’s unfortunate too because I think he would bring valuable experience that most #3 SP don’t have.
Lennon's Dad
Easy to see Seattle making a play for Brujan. Maybe Santana and Elias or Adams? All three?
drfelix
I just saw your post after I posted mine about a Seattle/TB trade for Santana. This makes so much sense for TB. They get 2.5 yrs of club-control for Santana 280BA, 350OBP 18HR (2019 so far). They can slip him into DH or RF.
Maybe including Elias “or” Gearrin to get the best prospect they can from TB. Santana is only owed < $1M. So these players are the type TB can easily afford.
With all the vet players Seattle has been trading away since the offseason, Seattle wouldn't have to lose any to Rule 5, and could slip them on the 40.
jbigz12
Domingo Santana is Nick Castellanos with 2 years of control. No one is giving up a top 50 prospect for that. Dipoto got nothing for paying Jay Bruce’s entire salary and Santana isn’t that much better than Bruce. You got a lotto ticket for EE while eating all the salary and he’s essentially an equivalent hitter. Santana provides 0 defensive value. There’s a reason you got him for Ben Gamel and a lotto ticket. You aren’t going to shine that up into a top prospect a few months later. He has more value than what you gave up to get him but that’s not even close. The Brewers couldn’t get that kind of talent when they were trying to move him before last season.
drfelix
I’m betting TB trades for Seattle Domingo Santana (RHB) 2019: 280BA, 350OBP, 18HR (on pace for approx 35 HRs). They can use him in RF or just slip him in the lineup as DH just for his bat.
Domingo is club-controlled for 2.5 years for CHEAP. a 2019 salary of $1.9M, so picking up Domingo for the rest of 2019 would only cost TB < $1M. Sounds like a player TB would target.
Seattle ate half of Encarcion's 2019 salary to send him to NY. That move killed TB's chances of winning the division. Since the EE trade NY added 6.5 games on the division lead over TB. TB couldn't afford even half of EE salary in 2019, but Domingo perfectly fits their budget.
I'm not sure what type of prospect TB would be willing to give up for Domingo, but his offense & "cheap" club control merits a pretty decent prospect!
jbigz12
Dr Felix you couldn’t be more wrong. The Yanks have expanded their lead in spite of EE not because of Him. He’s done absolutely nothing. The Rays have RF/DH covered with Meadows and Garcia. Santana would be completely redundant there. If anything I could see them targeting a 1B or a 3B but I think they really need bullpen help more than anything else.
Lennon's Dad
Meadows had a terrible June. He’s having a good July, but Tampa doesn’t have a strong alternative and there are plenty of questions with Garcia.
Tampa may not be interested in Santana, but they should be interested in adding depth. We know that they were in on EE, so that should be telling.
its_happening
Sogard or Galvis wouldn’t be bad from Toronto. Same with Daniel Hudson. Would’ve said Grichuk too except for that contract extension he just signed. Wouldn’t cost much for Tampa to obtain.
jbigz12
How much DH type depth can Tampa carry on its roster? They already Yandy Diaz, Avi Garcia, Choi, and Meadows. Nate Lowe is also an option. I could see them going for a significant upgrade but they don’t need anymore depth there. I think they’d be better served getting a legitimate 3B and making Diaz the DH on most days. Or a 1B if not.
Another RF doesn’t make any sense at all to me. Meadows and Garcia are there and Santana really isn’t an upgrade to Meadows in my opinion. I guess he is a marginal upgrade to Garcia but what do you do with him? Send him back to Seattle? He’s extremely redundant at that point. I think it’s much easier for them to upgrade more significantly by acquiring other players at other positions.
Dustin Michels
Wait Meadows was bad in June and does not have much of a track record so I’m thinking he is regressing back to his bust prospect status…sarcastic of course…
Lennon's Dad
Santana’s been better than you seem to give him credit for, but I would stress that nobody, including myself, is suggesting he alone would be enough. They should be interested in relievers and Seattle has a couple that should interest them, but it’s possible even a Mariner prospect would need to be involved.
Regarding other positions to upgrade, where?! Catcher? First base? Garcia’s seeing more time there than he is in RF and Heredia isn’t going to be the guy they lean on in a pinch.
Even Austin Nola might interest them in a package with Santana and a reliever.
jbigz12
Garcia has played 0 innings at 1B so that is complete crap. Meadows is outhitting and out-fielding Santana on the year. You just dumped off EE and Bruce while paying the brunt of their salary for relatively minimal returns. Santana is that kind of player (slightly more valuable given control and age) but the gap isn’t gigantic. The Gap between getting a Juan Then and a Vidal Brujan is. Adding mid level relievers to that package doesn’t make up the value. That logic doesn’t work because they could go to another team and trade more mid level prospects for a similar reliever. Why give up a top tier prospect when you could trade from your depth?
Lennon's Dad
First, it should have been obvious that I meant Garcia had spent more time at DH than RF, but that was my mistake.
Second, you’re missing the point about EE. He’s a right-handed power bat and Tampa was interested. Well, so is Santana. The fact that he can play RF doesn’t detract from his value, though the bat is his calling card.
Third, and this is the last time I’ll say this: Nobody is suggesting Santana alone would be enough.
Have a nice rest of the weekend.
matt4baseball
Firstly the Rays need a closer with lots of successful experience. After that we could possibly use a starter but a #2 or ace with more than a year. Zach Grienke comes to mind along with injury prone Noah Synderguard or, Marcus Stroman . Arizona will pay down the 2-3 yeras left on Grienkes salary for prospects. I’d find out how much because Greinke is still lights out!
its_happening
If the Rays get one of them, would they consider moving Glasnow (when healthy) or McKay to the bullpen down the stretch? Add Honeywell and they could have some serious bullets without having to grab a closer.
jbigz12
Honeywell has a fractured elbow he’s not coming to help anything this year. De Leon is coming back but we don’t know what he’ll be at this point
matt4baseball
No , none of the starters are qualified. They really need an experienced closer… Pagan, Alvarado and Castillo are no ready for the 9th. maybe next year.
Ejoey
Let Detroit answer TB needs,Boyd,Greene,Jimenez Castellanos for Sanchez,Brujan,Nate Lowe and either Liberatore or Mcclanahan.
jbigz12
Pipe dream on line 1.
Ejoey
You will get no better SP with age, talent and years controll than Boyd. Allstar RP(Greene)and a RP(Sanchez) that TB likes. And Castellanos is a very good right bat. TB go for it!!
its_happening
Tampa would be giving up too much.
SportsFan0000
Boyd, Green Castellanos return would start with Wander Franco, Jesus Sanchez and Brendon McKay and go from there with more players in that package..
therealryan
Sanchez could be in that package but Franco is going no where. Guaranteed. Same with McKay for that package now that he is up and performing in MLB. Sanchez could be in that package though.
LB123
Wander Franco isn’t going anywhere, especially not for mid tier guys like that.
Melchez
That would be a huge haul for the Tigers. I don’t see them getting more than one of any of those for Boyd and Castellanos. I would be happy with Liberatore, Cronenworth, Wong and Jose Deleon. Tigers tried to get Deleon when he was a Dodger. He’s had some injury issues… TJ surgery, but he’s pitching again.
I think that would be a fair trade.
matt4baseball
Boyd stinks, Besides this year he’s been horrible. I’m sure the Rays won’t consider him. As far as Ejoey trade offer…nuts.
Dustin Michels
0 for 2 Matt…
Boyd does not stink and the Rays already are scouting Boyd and have interest according to the baseball heads out there.
matt4baseball
The Rays will look into players that their competition is interested in. Since the Yanks, As and Stros are somewhat interested in Boyd, they will sometimes jack up the price on them. No there is no interest in Boyd or even a starter, Our 5th starter (Yarborough) is much better than Boyd. The Rays only need a closer.
matt4baseball
Boyd stinks, Please trade him to the Red Sox or Yanks so we can hit against him as much as possible!!!!
fljay73
Wow. No thanks. Way to much “prospect cash” & it would save the Tigers GM’s A**
SportsFan0000
Boyd, Green Castellanos return would start with Wander Franco, Jesus Sanchez and Brendon McKay and go from there with more players in that package..
I doubt Detroit trades Joe Jimenez(All Star reliever last year and future closer)..
Bo schemheckler
Listen, I am a tigers fan and even I can say you are a stone cold moron if you think that package is realistic in any way.
SportsFan0000
Reads like you know very little about MLB and valuation of players..
therealryan
I agree, SportsFan0000’s original post of Franco, Sanchez and McKay does read like someone who knows very, very little about MLB and valuations of players.
hammer_time24
That might be the most ridiculous proposal I’ve seen. And that’s saying something
SportsFan0000
Rays fans want something for nothing, Understandable, but won’t get it. Rays will have to pay high market value or over pay or Tigers will just trade with another ballclub…
There is not shortage of interest in Boyd and Greene with at least 8 teams in on them and more that, most likely,have not been disclosed yet.
Remember, the Rays starting star SS, Willy Adamses, came over from the Tigers farm system in another deadline deal….
(David Price)…
So, for the right package of players, I can see SS Wander Franco traded in a deal that makes the Rays a very serious WS contender this year:
All Star Closer Sean Greene with 1 1/2 years team control, LHSP Boyd with 3 1/2 years team control etc….(maybe Castellanos for another big RH bat in the lineup),,,
Franco and OF Jesus Sanchez would be the 1st 2 players in any package. that Tigers would ask for.
LHSPs McKay or Liberatore would have to be considered and maybe catcher Renoldo Herandez + Other prospects etc….
Some Kinda Wanderful
Lay off the pipe dude. You literally made my drink come through my nose while reading your outlandish trade scenario
matt4baseball
Your drinking to much of the Kool aid. The Rays will never contact Detroit about Boyd..Please call the yanks about him.
fljay73
Rays need to focus on a Relief Pitcher & bat but no way would the tigers get Franco, Hernandez or McKay. Sanchez would more than likely be the centerpiece along with about 2 or 3 of the Rays mid ranked prospects. That also would help alleviate the Rays 40 man rule 5 draft issue.
matt4baseball
Sportsfanooo-Your information is completely wrong! Firstly The Rays gave Detroit David Price for almost nothing!! (You should say thank you) It was a salary dump trying to acquire some return. Adames is a marginal SS, Smiley was good for about a year and the other player is out of baseball. Price was given to you as an ace and you traded him while still an ace. Boyd stinks and full of hot air keeping his value up, so keep him. No one on Detroit (MLB or minors) is worth W Franco-Try getting J Baez or Max Shuerzer back and we can talk then. S Greene is a possibility but AA will ask for too much. Oh! Since we Gave you D price can we have a discount on Greene?
SportsFan0000
What a ridiculous comment.
Astros are looking for Boyd to slot in @ #2 or #3 in their All Star studded rotation that maybe better than the Rays rotation.
Some Kinda Wanderful
It would not be a stretch to say that Franco, Brujan, McKay, and Liberatore are going nowhere. I don’t see them trading Baz, McClanahan or either of the Lowe’s. With that said the Rays are so deep in prospects that even without those mentioned they still have one hell of a minor league system and could offer a significant trade package to any that are available on the trade market rn
SportsFan0000
Yeah sure…Rays GM calls teams and says he wants their best tradeable assets, but won’t include any of his tradeable prospects that other teams would want in return in those deals..
Those would be some very short phone conversations puncutated by a loud “click(s)” lol!
Some Kinda Wanderful
Stay whatever bubble you want to stay in. The rest of the baseball world would agree that the Rays consistently have one of the best farm systems in baseball for a reason. They make smart trades and would never trade assets like the ones you mentioned for guys with little control or that will be FA in the off season. For you to think Franco and McKay would even be available is ridiculous
fljay73
Franco, Hernandez & McKay all have spots waiting for them. Rays have a loaded farm & Sanchez + 2 or 3 of the Rays mid level prospects (who would become another teams top 20) should get a trade to happen (example- last season’s T. Pham trade).
jbigz12
He’s trolling you all. Just move along.
pasha2k
If Tampa is smart they’d go after anyone the Evil Empire targets.
goldenmisfit
Evil Empire? I see you still think it’s 2003. That statement is one of the dumbest I’ve ever seen on this site speaking as a Yankees fan that would be like us going after someone just because the Red Sox want them. It’s just moronic.