The Rangers have acquired right-hander Shane Carle from the Braves for cash considerations, per an announcement from John Blake, Texas’ executive vice president of communications. Carle has been optioned to Triple-A Nashville. To make room for Carle, the Rangers activated righty Kyle Dowdy from the 10-day IL and designated him for assignment.
Carle was DFA’ed by the Braves yesterday after posting a 9.64 ERA over just 9 1/3 innings of work this season. Carle emerged as a workhorse with a 63-inning performance out of Atlanta’s bullpen in 2018, though his performance began to fade even down the stretch last year, despite an overall 2.86 ERA. While strikeouts have never been a huge aspect of Carle’s game, he has missed more bats than usual at Triple-A Gwinnett this season, with an 8.4 K/9 rate over 33 1/3 frames. Those extra K’s haven’t helped Carle avoid a 5.13 ERA for Gwinnett, however.
A change of scenery could be just what Carle needs, as he does boast some very good velocity (94.7 mph average fastball over his 76 1/3 IP in the big leagues) and a 4.14 ERA over 562 2/3 innings in the minors. He’s a fairly low-cost acquisition for Texas, and an arm that could provide more immediate MLB upside than Dowdy.
Originally a member of the Indians’ farm system, Dowdy was selected by the Mets in the Rule 5 Draft and then claimed off waivers by the Rangers during Spring Training. Dowdy had a 7.25 ERA over his first 22 1/3 innings in the majors before going on the injured list in early June with an elbow impingement. If Dowdy clears DFA waivers, the Rangers will have to offer him back to Cleveland.
Thank you! At least you got something for him. Shame he couldn’t turn it around for us this year
But wasn’t Minor or Lynn or Bullpen piece.
You cant expect to get good players for trash..
Just greasing the wheels for a Mike Minor + Santana/Martin for SP prospects deal.
Texas and Atlanta line up too well to not make a deal happen.
Get that out of your head. The Braves aren’t getting Minor back, nor should they. It’ll be Syndergaard, Stroman, or basically anyone not named Mike Minor.
We had Santana.
I’d take Minor back. Like to see him back. Especially before Stroman.
No no no….been there, done that, donated the T-shirt at a garage sell. Please let’s get away from the untouchables of Teheran, Delgado, Minor, Medlen from Wren’s era. I respect what Minor has done, but if anyone is in line for regression, it’s him. Stroman has the Napoleon complex on his side.
Mets are not giving up Thor to a division rival
Besides he would definitely cost 1 of the Top 3 prospects all of which are off limits
There’s talk all over baseball about it. Maybe you should pay attention. It might not happen(Syndergaard) but the Mets are scouting the Braves, and I would be surprised if a Mets player isn’t traded to Atlanta. This coming from the guy that repeatedly said he wants Greinke but fails to realize he has $60m+ in deferred money for five years after his contract is up.
I’m over here just happy we got cash for him… y’all turned this into a confusing old lady fight
Yeah just like all the talk in baseball comes true
Not saying no trade would happen just not Thor
What do the deferred payments got to do with the Greinke trade ????
Do you really believe I would not want some of Greinke’s contract picked up by Arizona
I have repeatedly put out there the better prospect return depends on how much money Arizona eats
Like I said before we were repeatedly told we can shop in any aisle. The rest of the rotation moving forward after this year would have the ability to be making peanuts
2 of our stars are basically getting robbed the money has to go somewhere and we need an ACE
Arizona eats half of the deferred money that’s 31 million
Would 6 million a year extra for 5 years really hurt
Adam Duvall makes more than that now in AAA I believe
Why would the Mets trade Thor to a division rival and have to see him a bunch of times ???
Think bout that in the NL east unless it’s somebody from the Marlins what kinda star players get moved between teams
I will wait while you figure it out
Don’t happen Minor trades not top players
Not off limits, AA said yesterday on air with the broadcast team, that since he arrived the only untouchable player was Acuna. I was shocked he didn’t mention Freeman, but maybe that’s a given and Freeman wasn’t a prospect when AA arrived.
No I am saying off limits in regards to what ppl say on here
For me anybody in the minors could be had in the right deal
That’s precisely what AA said yesterday, more or less.
I’m with you. I would give up Waters and some other less promising guys for Thor. Where you are wrong is about the diferred money owed to Grienke. It is true he is owed a lot in differed money. The idea that any team would be expected to pick that up is untrue. They would just owe the AAV for the years they had him. Any money that was diferred from years he already played with Arizona would typically (as precedent shows) be paid by Arizona. Anything can happen in negotiations of a high caliber trade like Grienke but the negotiations would likely start out on both sides with the acquiring team only expected to pay Grienke his AAV for the years they have them. I had to ask the same question myself in chats recently because it is a relatively in depth thought (and I applaud you for that because most people aren’t astute enough to even consider it). In order for the Braves to pick up any differed money the Diamondbacks would either have to take on bad contracts that the Braves owe (like O’Day or Inciarte) or Arizona would have to give up prospects that the Braves value. Even then it would be highly unlikely that the Braves (or any team for that matter) would pay all of Grienke’s deferred $. It would especially be difficult to expect any team to pay differed money when Grienke is already incredibly overpaid for a player his age (or almost any player) at $34.6 million a year until he is 38 years old. Arizona would have to pay off some of that in and of itself so the idea of any team taking on differed money would be unheard of.
Ppl on here say Pache, Waters &!Anderson are off limits but in anyone’s right mind if someone like Hanigar became available you wouldn’t deal one
Or if somebody wouldn’t move Anderson as part of a package for say DeGrom
Anderson and Pache are the only off limits prospects in my opinion (I don’t consider anyone on the current major league roster as prospects anymore ie Soroka, Fried). Although, you’re right. I’d probably move Anderson for DeGrom. But that’s not gonna ever be an option. The kind of guys that are an option aren’t worth moving those two. I would move Waters or any of the other pitching prospects in the right deal for another ace type. But I doubt that works out… Stroman or Grenki would be interesting at least, and I might give up Waters and one or two of the less heralded pitching prospects for one of them. I’d take Minor back for sure as well, but I’d give way less for him
For what it’s worth 12up.com is reporting the top 2 Mets scouts (Minaya and Baird) are at AA and AAA respectively tonight.
Duvall makes less than $3 mill a year unless the Braves call him up. Regardless, you’re right. Even if the Braves were to acquire Grienke it would be assumed that the braves would pay exactly 0% of his deffered money. That’s how every other precedent works out anyway at least. In fact it would be more likely that Arizona pays all of his differed $ and takes on some of his non differed money in addition to that. Even if Arizona were to take on Inciarte and O’Day’s contracts that would likely be the case regardless of whether or not they got any other players from the Braves. The only way I see the Braves paying even a cent of differed money is if Arizona throws in prospects or extremely under paid MLB talent.
Read the title thought this was part of the return for Minor I almost flipped.
Still could be another Trade on the way between both teams.
Looks like the market is starting to awaken. I’m so excited!
It hasen’t because just 3 DFA Trades today and new Rumors to.
that’s how it always starts
Yes theirs been Rumors since last Week and had only DFA Trades since Cubs/Royals one and Deadline is Wednesday.
I can see Diekman from KC or Romaro from Miami. No need to trade the farm away.
Diekman & Romo are not worth getting. If those are what the Braves walk away with at the deadline than AA needs to be fired on the spot.
Keep Minor out the conversation as well. Lynn too.
Greinke
MadBum
Stroman
That’s the order
Grienke would be my #1, as well, but don’t see the Braves doing it. Cost and Grienke can veto a trade are why I don’t see it happening. From what I’ve read he’s even said he doesn’t want to go anywhere. Sadly, Braves could easily afford him.
I know he said he doesn’t want to go anywhere but what is he supposed to say while his team is still in a WC race ?
I think he would go to the Braves he grew up a Braves fan in Orlando close to where Braves held Spring Training
I remember when the Royals were trading him he was sayin he hoped to get traded to the Braves
Good point
I may be in the minority, but i also think we need an outfielder. I don’t see Riley rebounding this year and I don’t know why the Braves won’t send him down. First it was sliders, now the kid can’t hit a fastball. Kid is totally lost at the plate and describing him as anything but overmatched at the plate is naive, in my opinion.
While it won’t happen, as KC doesn’t seem inclined to do it, Merrifield would look pretty good in left. Wouldn’t mind seeing Marte roaming center. Package deal of Marte and Vazquez would be awfully sweet. Awfully sweet wishful thinking
I been on a Marte/Vázquez package for about a week now
I have no problem moving Riley
Camargo can handle 3B or resign Donaldson for 2 years
Silliness – sure, he does look overmatched at times, but this is his first time seeing most of these guys. You don’t get 16 HR in 224 AB by closing your eyes and swinging. Let him learn on the job. The idea that AAA is better environment to learn hitting pro pitches is stupid. Do you value Inciarte with his baggage over Riley and his? That’s basically what it comes down to. I’d rather give Riley experience while resting him every 4 days for an above average bench (Camargo/Culberson/Inciarte) prepping him for 2020, then giving more ABs to Inciarte.
Learning doesn’t happen at AAA but building confidence does
Yeah his eyes aren’t closed, they are looking out to center field instead of tracking the ball.
As I said, naive. Keep making excuses for him Run.
Keep defending Riley run. Naive in my opinion but it’s just that an opinion. I like the kid and he will be good, best I can tell. But to ask if I want Inciarte getting more at bats is, again, naive. No one mentioned Inciarte until you did. I was mentioning possible outfield upgrades and you come back with so I want to give Inciarte more at bats? Lol
The Braves are not on Grienke’s no trade list and he doesn’t have 10-5 rights since he’s only been with the D’backs for 4 years, so he can’t veto a trade. The bigger question is that since the D’backs are in the wildcard hunt would they trade away their best pitcher?
I’m willing to bet if Gausman has a good start this weekend the Braves don’t get a SP at the deadline.
Weird that you don’t want two of the most valuable SP’s this season.
Braves should be sellers and pick up prospects to replace J2 whipping.
Dumbest comment I ever saw.
How much ca$h? Anyone know? Was it just enough to make it neutral or is it enough to give the Braves a slightly larger bankroll to spend on trades they make in the next week? I don’t mind the idea of trading for Minor as long as we don’t give up Anderson, Pache, Waters, Riley or even Camargo. Matter of fact… I wouldn’t give up Newcomb either. Tookie, Allard, and pretty much everyone else (save our most recent top 9 overall draft pick and future franchise catcher Langoliers) I would be okay with trading for the right package. That’s right… I would even give up Kyle Wright or Bryce Wilson if we got enough in return. That is only the group I would pick from. In one trade for a guy like Minor they would be lucky to get 2 of them and maybe another lower ranked prospect. It wouldn’t be any two either. One of their choice and then another much less promising one. I wouldn’t trade Anderson or Pache for any player right now (only because the Braves can’t afford to pay guys like Mike Trout who are already making over $400 million). I might consider throwing in Waters for Thor though. The rest better be guys that aren’t on the untouchable list. Camargo and Newcomb haven’t had enough playing time this season to prove they aren’t gonna turn into legit stars. News Flash!: The Phillies gave the Braves the most competition last season (until the last week or two) and Camargo had a higher WAR than any position player on the Phillies roster. You could very easily argue that Camargo was better than any position player on the Phillies roster last season. What is he doing on the he bench? I know the Braves have Donaldson and Donaldson is better but Jesus. The Braves basically took the stance that a position player who is better than any position player on the Phillies 2018 roster still wasn’t good enough to be a starter on the Braves. The thing is… Outside of pitcher, catcher and first base he can play any position on any team. He is not as good as Donaldson is now but he WILL be a long term consistent very good contributor for some major league team. Don’t sell him when his stock is lower than it will ever be. Regardless of Riley’s struggles at the plate recently he is still too valuable to consider trading. He will get better with age, wisdom and experience. His talent is undeniable and people that suggest he should be traded don’t understand how young he is and how much experience and wisdom he will gain. He is one of the youngest players in baseball and he is so inexperienced that even if he was a starter the rest of this season he would still be eligible as a rookie and a Rookie Of The Year award candidate NEXT SEASON! He isn’t even really a Rookie yet. He is pre-rookie. You are watching an extremely nyoung player that has so little experience that NEXT YEAR will be his rookie season. If anyone thinks a guy with the talent that Riley has is done or trade bait before he even starts his official ROOKIE season, they are either childishly impatient, very uneducated on the subject, or haters that are just trying to bring down the franchise. True fans can’t do anything about that but ignore them and sleep well at night knowing that we don’t require as much undivided attention as they seem to. The new Mets info does make me consider trading someone like Waters for Thor though. That is the only way I would consider it and I still wouldn’t feel good about it. Last season Thor said his goal was to try and throw as hard as possible on every single pitch. What kind if an idiot does that? Why not stop throwing and start pitching? I would only consider it based on the fact that he is extremely talented and the Mets screwed him up. Maybe the Braves could turn him around. The Braves do that with pitchers a lot.
Of Riley stays on the MLB roster, he will not be a rookie next year. He came up in May and may already have met the rookie requirements.
He almost has enough strike outs alone to qualify lol. 130 is the cut off for position players and also 45 days on active roster.
Dude, Riley crossed the 130 rookie threshold for at bats a long time. Dude almost has enough strike outs alone to qualify. Another 3 weeks of him starting every other day he will be there
hey @SucksSacks…shhhhh! You talk way too much “Bwhahaha”!!!
The optimist in me hopes Atlanta is creating space and has a plan ready to go before Sunday.
The pessimist in me sees the Braves going cheap and waiting as long as they can hoping to find someone marginal or trade for a rental.
NY writers, Joel Sherman and Andy Martino among them, are reporting that Omar Minaya is at Mississippi Braves tonight and Allard Baird is scouting Gwinnett. If true that’s 2 of the top people for the Mets. Story is via 12up.com
The in-season trading amounts to this: Kevin Pillar (APR) Jay Bruce, Edwin Encarnacion (JUN), Martin Maldinado, Andrew Cashner, Tyler White (JUL) .
SFG is the winner so far.