The latest from the City Of Brotherly Love…
- Before Andrew Cashner was dealt to the Red Sox, the veteran righty also drew some trade interest from the Phillies, but they ultimately “backed off in part due to concerns about the pitcher’s makeup,” The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal writes (subscription required). While personality is always a factor when adding a player to the roster, it could be that the Phils are putting a particular focus on such matters this season given that, as per Rosenthal, “several of the Phillies’ acquisitions last season did not mix well in their clubhouse.”
- The Phillies’ multi-year rebuilding plan hoped to follow the model established by the Cubs and Astros earlier this decade, but as ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (subscription required) notes, Philadelphia’s efforts have been hampered by a lack of consistent reinforcements from the minor leagues. Aside from Rhys Hoskins and Aaron Nola, several of the Phils’ more highly-touted prospects or draft picks in recent years have either not produced much in the big leagues, or have yet to even arrive. (Perhaps most troublingly, first-rounders Mickey Moniak and Cornelius Randolph have both seen their prospect stock drop, as both are posting unspectacular numbers at Double-A.) Olney discussed the Phillies’ farm system with ESPN colleague Keith Law, who felt the problem could stem from a conservative approach to drafting pitching, as well the team’s “tendency to push [position] players to low-A Lakewood before they’re physically ready for it.“
- Jay Bruce is hopeful that his injured list stint could just last between 10-15 days, as the veteran outfielder told MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki and other reporters that his side injury was only a sprained right intercostal muscle. “It’s not nearly as bad as an oblique could be, so that’s a positive….I think it’s more on the mild side, the shorter side of the timetable, fortunately,” Bruce said. That would be a good scenario for both Bruce and the Phillies, who were already facing a lack of outfield depth prior to Bruce’s injury. The veteran has been something of a one-dimensional bat since joining the Phillies earlier this season, as Bruce has hit .256/.273/.564 with 10 homers over his 121 plate appearances in a Philadelphia uniform.
jdgoat
Does Rosenthal give the source regarding Cashner? That’s kind of a pot shot after the fact.
dimitrios in la
I have never heard anything bad about Cashner in the Orioles clubhouse.
jdgoat
I’m pretty sure he only has one former teammate on the Phillies as well and that’s Realmuto. Unless the front office asked him about Cashner and he had nothing good to say, this just seems kind of odd. I don’t remember a story about Cashner’s negative demeaned in any of his previous stops.
GareBear
Might have to do with his “I may not report if I’m traded” comments but that’s the only thing I can think of that might send up a red flag
Strike Four
Rosenthal doing low rent clickbait headlines, ya hate to see it.
draushaus
Cashner has that attitude that he has a list of teams that he refuses to play for. And that b.s. about refusing to shave off his beard. Though neither might be a potential problem with this Phils, per se, neither says “hey, I’m all about winning”. He’s built a reputation that precedes him.
jbigz12
Cashner not mixing in the clubhouse? I somehow think he’d probably mesh w an old TCU guy in Arrieta. You know unless they have an old college beef. That seems kinda hard to believe
whyhayzee
The Phillies best clubhouse guy acquisition was Pete Rose and he’s banned from baseball. The bar is pretty low. I don’t get it.
coach him
It’s one excuse after another for this organization. They need to start doing the opposite of what they believe is the right move. Use your eyes and get a feel for the game and player, not a computer you bleeping, bleep, bleeps!They never played the game to understand the game.
Jayphils
They another Thome, teach these guys how to play, he is what set the stage for the last great Phillies run, taught all the young guys how to play.
gorav114
Weird on Cashner because he seemed great on the Orioles and that’s with a last place team. He would sit in the dugout and cheer entire game. Even stranger they signed Arrieta, a know diva.
Banesays
Examples of Arrieta being a known* diva?
lookouts
Well, for one thing, trying to pitch with a bone chip in his elbow when he was already quite ineffective for an extended period.
frank_costanza
I don’t know if diva is the right word for Arrieta but he certainly has a ‘me first’ attitude to go along with an inflated sense of self worth
Banesays
Again, examples?
Strike Four
theres no defending this. sorry. guess we can write off him ever playing for a californian team huh
twitter.com/jarrieta34/status/796372720015523840
CrewBrew
Love watching the big market phillies crumble and the young Braves take over the East.
Nolan88
The Braves don’t have fans though.
chippahawk
It’s going to be a long decade for the cheesesteaks…
bucketbrew35
“Love watching the big market phillies crumble and the young Braves take over the East.”
I love that the Brewers have no starting pitching. I cherish Victorino’s grand slam against CC in 08 on our way to a world title. Don’t worry, you’ll get that ring one day (probably not).
CrewBrew
When in a corner, bring up 2008? seems to be philly fans logic. Cant put a reason on why their team is under-performing this season? maybe that 330 million dollar piece of garbage that is clogging up right field has your answer lmao. Cant even make an all star team this season? thats pretty laughable that Hunter Pence made the team and Harper didnt. Have fun for the next 12.5 years, yall will be begging for someone to take that contract in 2 more years. Little advice for your rockstar GM, just because you have stupid money to spend…doesnt mean you should spend it.
AndyMeyer
“330 million piece of garbage”
Grow up
Strike Four
wow, really out here calling a pro baseball player “a pile of garbage” – get out of here with this crud
AndyMeyer
I second that
rgreen
Outfield and bullpen completely falling apart…..And I’m not that surprised about Harper having a rough year.Spent the offseason deciding where to play,jumped right into spring training after signing,and he’s probably not that settled into the city yet.And he’s been starting to come around.3 and a half months is to early to right off a 13 year deal for a player not many people are surprised he got.
bucketbrew35
Randolph was a mistake. Moniak is actually having a solid season. Combined his stat line with his defense and he’s had a good year despite being more than 3 years younger than the league average. Obviously more is to be expected of a 1st overall pick but I still have faith in him.
jbigz12
Moniak should clearly be repeating high A. He’s not performing poorly in AA but maybe they actually need him to prove he can really hit at a level before sending him to the next level. He’s profiling as a fourth outfielder right now. Quite honestly he should’ve been repeating low A last season. I’m not sure why Philly has been so aggressive with the promotions. He’s really shown nothing special at the plate in his minor leaguer career.
Nolan88
There was a report on Cashner on 2 occasions when he played with the Padres that he lacked interest / motivation to play the game. Maybe nothing but Remember reading about it twice on this site.
Rosstradamus
It’s Segura!!! For like, the 5th different team now(count em’…Angels, Brewers, DBacks, M’s and now the Phills) Being traded 4 times before age 29 season is surely a red-flag! More to baseball than just physical ability!
jbigz12
Guess you missed the part that said, “last season”
frank_costanza
I always wondered who it was that didn’t fit in last year because this isn’t the first time it’s been reported. It would have to be Asdrubal or Ramos because they were the first two and the only ones of note.
Spike1122
Santana
king beas
Moniak for Vargas?
Or moniak for Frazier
Strike Four
Moniak is 21 and is OPSing .768 at AA right now, what’s the problem with him again? Is this some new dumb media narrative of every 21 year old has to be Acuna? No. Ballplayers develop and peak at totally different times. Can be 19, can be 40. Moniak’s numbers are fine and a progression of last year.
Also Mark Appel is out of baseball, being “#1 draft pick” is meaningless, almost all minor leaguers are essentially starting off on equal footing (Tebow would be a rare instance of that not being true). If you look at it like that, Moniak is having a very natural progression as a prospect, it bothers me people are acting like slow development isnt development.