Most reports out of New York over the past few weeks have echoed a familiar trio of names when assessing their trade chips: Zack Wheeler, Todd Frazier and Jason Vargas. The three are free agents at season’s end — Vargas does have an $8MM club option ($2MM buyout) that looks increasingly intriguing — making them natural candidates to be shipped out by a 46-54 Mets team that is closer to the NL’s worst record than to the division lead.
The larger source of intrigue surrounds whether the Mets would move assets controlled beyond the current season. To that end, ESPN’s Jeff Passan reports within his latest column that the Mets “have been open to dealing” embattled closer Edwin Diaz. General manager Brodie Van Wagenen isn’t in any type of rush to move his offseason headliner, however. Rather, he’s endeavored to receive a comparable package to the one he surrendered in order to get Diaz in the first place. MLB.com’s Anthony DiComo tweets a similar sentiment, noting that the ask on Diaz is “so sky-high that it’s basically a non-starter.” Though ESPN.com’s Buster Olney suggests on Twitter that the Dodgers are a nice match on paper, he doesn’t indicate whether the sides have had actual discussions — let alone whether the Los Angeles organization would meet the Mets’ asking price.
Finding a deal that compares to the one that brought Diaz to New York seems an impossible order. In addition to taking on a hefty chunk of the Robinson Cano contract, the Mets parted with a pair of young players — Jarred Kelenic and Justin Dunn — who are soaring through the Mariners’ system and up top prospect rankings. Diaz’s strikeout, walk, ground-ball and swinging-strike rates have all gone in the wrong direction. And while he’s tossed six shutout innings since his most recent meltdown — a four-run collapse against the Phillies — he’s still lugging a 4.81 ERA with as many blown saves (four) as he had all of last season.
Even teams that feel they have an answer for Diaz’s struggles wouldn’t be willing to pay a metaphorical dollar-for-dollar rate in negotiations with the Mets. As for taking a lesser deal, the optics of trading him for cents on the dollar while retaining Cano and the sizable portion of his salary they absorbed in that deal would be poor, to say the least. Diaz is controlled through 2022, so a strong finish and/or a 2020 rebound would do wonders for his value.
It seems more plausible that if the Mets were to receive a sizable offer on a controllable arm, it’d be Noah Syndergaard. Olney tweets that the Mets are “seriously listening” to rival clubs that have interest. While Syndergaard hasn’t really thrown in a way that buttresses his own trade value, he’s throwing hard and seems to be in good health. His 4.36 ERA, 8.9 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9 would all be career-worsts if the season ended today, but his track record and upside are so impressive that there’ll be loads of interest.
Whether that listening stance has a real chance of turning into meaningful trade talks remains to be seen. Both Jon Heyman of the MLB Network (Twitter links) and Andy Martino of SNY cite the Yankees as the club with perhaps the keenest level of interest in Syndergaard. Both reports suggest that top pitching prospect Deivi Garcia could be a headliner in such a deal, and while GM Brian Cashman plainly stated a couple weeks back that he wouldn’t move Garcia for a rental, Heyman suggests that the Yankees would “surely” put Garcia in play if meant obtaining Syndergaard, who is controlled through 2021.
Of course, the Yankees and Mets simply haven’t dealt with one another on the trade market at any point in recent history, which makes negotiations all the more complicated. And Olney tweets that he doesn’t think the New York rivals will be able to make a deal on such a significant player. Martino writes that the two teams have nevertheless talked Syndergaard “many times” this month, swapping proposals and counterproposals with no real progress being made. A deal is characterized as unlikely, although he also lists the Astros, Padres, Brewers and, to a lesser extent, the Twins as teams trying to pry Syndergaard loose.
That high asking price may not be the case with regard to Wheeler, whose value partially hinges on how well he performs in Friday’s expected return from the injured list. The Mets’ hope seems to be that a strong outing will quiet some concerns about Wheeler’s recent shoulder flareup, but the injury undoubtedly quelled some interest in him. Despite the concerns, Yahoo’s Mike Mazzeo cites a Mets official as calling the chances of a Wheeler trade “pretty high.”
If the Mets don’t find any offers on Wheeler to be viable or, even worse, he experiences renewed shoulder discomfort and is forced back to the IL, the club could retain him and issue a qualifying offer at season’s end. Barring a worrying showing, though, it may be that the Mets will end up simply taking the best offer on a player whose tenure in New York has seen its share of peaks and valleys.
julio1221
Garcia Urshela Frazier Florial for Noah Syndergaard make it happen
padam
Nope.
driftcat28 2
Don’t forget Judge and Sanchez and Severino and the 16 year old prospect they just signed. And changing Mariano’s hat on his HOF plaque to a Mets one. Then MAYBEEEE the Yankees have a shot at getting the Noah
walls17
Yankees do that and run
billysbballz
I love that everyone seems to think they have an idea of what it would take. Does anyone think the Yanks are dumb enough to back up the brink truck and unload 3 top prospects and a everyday starter for a pitcher who has underperformed, is one pitch away from another DL stint, and possibly has an injury he’s pitching through right now? Plus the way he pitches which is violent invites arm trouble so why the hell would we sell the system for a pitcher who hasn’t pitched anywhere close to being an Ace? You go for the guy you know can do it and is a veteran and that guy isn’t there right now.
didi gregorious nose
U realize every pitcher is one pitch away from the il? Furthermore being it’s the Yankees they have to overpay or bvw will hear it from mets fans.
jakethesnizake
I’d rather they hang on to Urshela and offer up Andujar…I just don’t know how much time he will need to get healthy. But a package around Garcia, Andujar, and one of Frazier/Florial is a good starting point.
jbigz12
That doesn’t really jive w what the Mets need. They already have Dom Smith, McNeil, Conforto, Davis and Nimmo in the corner outfield or 3rd. They really don’t have a slot for both Andujar and Frazier. It’s either McNeil at 3B or a corner OF slot. He’s not sitting. They can possibly use Frazier if they think Nimmo or conforto can be a CF long term. Or Andujar if they’d like McNeil in the OF. But they can’t fit both.
They’re going to need lots of pitching prospects to replace Thor and Wheeler. I don’t think that’s going to work for them at all.
yanks02026
I know the Mets would never deal Noah to the Yankees.
But say that offer happened, couldn’t the mets put Smith and McNeil in LF and Right, Andujar at 3rd. Probably take Florial instead of frazier, then that gives them another year before he comes up and another year looking at Conforto… Then they trade Nimmo for another piece.
jbigz12
That’s a really bad defensive OF w conforto, McNeil and Smith. Better with Nimmo but not good. Florial isn’t a sure fire CF himself. If he is a CF he’s likely a Nimmo or Conforto type out there.
So, no I don’t think that’s going to work. They’re going to want pitching prospects. That’s what would make sense. They’re going to lose 3/5 of their rotation if they trade Thor. Vargas and Wheeler are pending FA’s. You have to get pitching back in a Thor trade. And it really can’t be one arm.
busta37
They’re gonna trade smith.
jbigz12
I would agree that they probably will trade Dom Smith. He doesn’t belong in the OF. That doesn’t change my stance that you cannot trade Thor for only one pitching prospect though. I guess theoretically if that pitching prospect was Jesus Luzardo or Brendan McKay that would be a different story. But Deivi is not that. I’m not dealing Thor for one pitching prospect. That’s the Mets most obvious need going forward. More corner players are not.
phenomenalajs
Agreed. Smith just imploded in LF tonight. I think the Mets may be likely to deal him to an AL club. They have their 1B of the future now and Dom is not an outfielder. I still don’t see the Mets making major moves outside of the pending free agents in Wheeler, Vargas, Frazier, Lagares, and Hechavarría if they’re all wanted.
fits65
Hey J-
I agree that Florial isn’t a sure candidate. However that’s what makes him a perfect candidate for the Mets to get.
didi gregorious nose
That’s fair loizaga would fit the bill.
Alex hamilton
It would probably take such a package to land Thor, and the Mets would be foolish not to do it. However, don’t think Cash would be willing.
driftcat28 2
shhh you can’t say that here. Any non Yankee fan is convinced the Yankees have to give up Yankee stadium to just get to the table to talk about a player
Strike Four
I wonder what return Wheeler and Vargas together would bring? Both are upgrades to the Oakland rotation. Maybe Diaz could be in the deal too. 3 for 6 kind of megatrade?
Bartolo Simpson
Jorge Mateo and Jesus Luzardo, plus an RP.
LongTimeFan1
Mateo, Beck, Murphy and a pitcher for Wheeler, Diaz and Vargas.
Strike Four
Sub Murphy out and replace him with Grant Holmes and thats a fair deal.
bencole
Luzardo is the best pitcher listed above even right now.
Strike Four
I think Luzardo can bring in Thor, Stroman, Minor or any elite SP, neither Wheeler or Vargas are worth him. Puk, Murphy and Luzardo are off the table here, but if Thor is in the deal, then at least 1 of them are on the table.
walls17
I’m curious to know what Mets fans think of this. I personally think if they trade Noah they should trade everyone not named Alonso or McNeil but it depends on the what kind of return they would get for Noah. If they got two solid MLB ready players I think it’s worth it
kleppy12
I think the Twins mame the perfect partner for the Mets, so logically that trade qont happen.
of9376
I agree with Walls17. They need drastic change in that clubhouse. Trade everyone you can except McNeil, Alonso and Nimmo.
busta37
I would throw conforto in there too.
evilempire28
Garcia Florial and Frazier is fair for Syndergaard. Only way they get Gleyber is for DeGrom.
MurderersRow27
The Yankees aren’t trading Gleyber, even for a pitcher like deGrom though.
king beas
Frazier doesn’t have a spot on the Mets either and Florial stinks
driftcat28 2
Florial stinks? What?
dobsonel
Because of the contract difference, Gleyber is worth more than DeGrom now.
ChiSox_Fan
Enuff with the rumors already.
Someone make an impact trade!!
Matt Galvin
Harold Reynilds just said I’m leaving and he was pertaining to Stroman because just showed him going back to Dugout and did say having him gong to Oskland,Smoltz had Boyd/Greene to Braves,Dempster Marte to Indians,Martinez Madbum to Yankees and Matt D. Bauer to Cardinals.
ChiSox_Fan
Hmmm… that’s a start if true.
No ChiSox trades?
MattyIce68
and what do the Yankees have that helps the Giants?
MurderersRow27
In all honesty, a lot haha
KTURN
And the Astros are just going to sit by and watch this happen while not doing anything?
Phfth!
jakethesnizake
Brody and Wilpons are idiots if they dont deal with Yankees on Thor. You take the best package you can get if you’re rebuilding or mini-rebuilding. Period.
For the Yankees, they definitely have more than enough pieces to get it done. Other teams certainly do too. But don’t close doors just because they’re your cross town rival. That’s bad business.
metfan4ever
They would be IDIOTS if the did deal with the stankees. THOR is 26. The stankees don’t have a 26 yr old like him.. What pieces do you think the stankees have. Who is the CF that would make it a conversation. And alllll your talk means nothing because everyone on MLBnetworks thinks the world of Thor. Jeff McNeil is older at 27 and people on the site say he’s a keeper so why is Thor not? Career worse and he’s still over 500., Thor’s career war is 14.3(44 & 26) If it’s not a stud CF + then why would any GM listen. The door is closed because the stankees don’t have what the Mets need. Time for the stankees to buy someone—ohhh wait-they tried that this last off season. Their are 30 over-ride it out but no way in hell do they get Thor…
michael serra
I am a Yankee fan that hopes to see the Mets in the world series EVERY year. I am a NYer. I pull for NY. If the Yankees can’t be there, then I hope the Mets are.. As far as your juvenile “stankees” please get off mommy’s computer and let the adults talk. If the Mets choose to not accept a better package from the Yankees only because they’re the Yankees, then they are idiots. Your post sure makes their fans look like idiots too. 7 year old idiots.
metfan4ever
No Stankee Mike you’re the idiot because you did read the whole post –YOU DON’T HAVE THE CF WE NEED-STANKEES go buy someone.
michael serra
Yes, I did read it all. But that’s the funny thing about people acting like little girls. No matter what they say after showing that they’re little girls, you only see the little girl crying. Does mommy know you’re still awake? Need a lullaby? Cause, I have one that will put you right to sleep. I’ll even let you choose the hand it’s in.
MurderersRow27
Metfan4ever… what’s the deal with all the childish hostility? It’s time the Mets front office stop being immature when it comes to possible trades with the Yankees. If the Yankees offer the best package for a player, and they refuse to deal said player to the Yankees, solely because they’re the Mets and they can’t make trades with the Yankees, wellll that’s ridiculously immature and extremely terrible business practice. You’re doing your fans and your ballclub, a HUGE disservice. Now, back to the Yankees potentially trading for Syndergaard, they most certainly have the trade pieces to make it happen. They have plenty of players the Mets could want/need, and that would help widen the core they have around Alonso/McNeil/Conforto. The farm system is shot, so there’s no reinforcements coming up through the pipeline to help supplement the core they are starting to build around. Trading Wheeler/Vargas/Frazier won’t net many high upside players in return, they’ll be more organizational filler type players. Trade Syndergaard or deGrom if you really want to start building something in the future, because either of those guys will net you some legit high upside prospects and everyday MLB caliber players.
Bruin1012
Internet muscles are hilarious.
metfan4ever
Back to Stankee fan mikey. 1est you post “As far as your juvenile “stankees” please get off mommy’s computer and let the adults talk. & then post “Does mommy know you’re still awake? Need a lullaby?” But nowhere do your stankees have the CF the Mets need-IS THAT F-ING ADULT FOR YOU stankee mikey, because I also posted “Their are 30 over-ride it out but no way in hell do they get Thor” so read everything and get over the stankees because if you really want NY teams to win you wouldn’t react BUT since the term STANKEES get under you withered skin. Bye. The Mets need a CF & C, and the satankees don’t have what we need-bottom line mikey
metfan4ever
The Mets Need a CF, a true CF and a C, do the Yankees have that for the Mets. The answer is NO. And you post the core of Alonso(25 yrs old)/McNeil(27)/Conforto(25) when Thor is 26. So why not keep him? why would we trade him for minor leaguer who are 22 or 23 and have prove nothing in the MLB. I would move 30 soon to be 31 year old deGrom for a TRUE CF who can hit but not Thor. And if I’m not the GM how am I-in your post ” You’re doing your fans and your ballclub, a HUGE disservice” I’m not making thje trades just like you’re not if if I’m doing a disservices then so are you buy offering what the Mets don’t need. You’re just salivating for Thor. The thought is in your dreams at night –BUT they Yankees don’t have the CF and C the Mets need—–
metfan4ever
Stankee Mikey. what type of lil D man picks on what you imply is a lil girl. did the STANKEE term get under you withered skin. idiot–STANKEES don’t have the CF and C the Mets need-so get over the term STANKEES– be cause I did post “Their are 30 over-ride it out but no way in hell do they get Thor…” but the term STANKEES stuck it to you….
metfan4ever
But you’re are not offering the BEST PACKAGE–you don’t have the CF or C the Mets need so just enjoy your year becasue at 30 games over 500, anything short of a W/S and a lot of you Yankee fans will be crying. also 3 of the player you note as the core the Mets have are Thor’s age- and who are the PLENTY OF PLAYER the Met could want/need-please—-Childish Hostility is because of the Yankees idiots who think every team wants your teams leftovers—
fits65
Hey z4-
Spell check:
Yankees
There
You sound angry. I guess that the season didn’t go as you planned. At least there won’t be disappointment with the Wilpon’s not willing to support any deadline players to make themselves a winner.
didi gregorious nose
Agreed. If the Yankees offer Garcia, Frazier, andujar and loizaga for thor and a prospect that’s not a bad package. Plug andujar at 3rd, trade conforto in the off season plug Frazier in right, mc Neil in left nimmo in cf.
BartoloHRball
That trade is within reason, but I’d want more bc in the off-season there will be 20+ teams making offers. The package back doesn’t solve the CF problem. The Mets need an elite CF and pitching. New owners and a new GM would be swell too.
MurderersRow27
If you’re looking for a CF, add Florial into the mix. He’s still a year or 2 away, but he has the speed to stay in CF for a long time.
metfan4ever
Estevan Florial originally hailed from Haiti before his mother, who was trying to get him into school and who did not have his official identifying paperwork, enrolled him in the Dominican Republic as Haniel d’Oleo. Under this new identity, Estevan would become one of the top international prospects in the 2014 international free agent class.
However, before he could report to the Yankees, the discrepancies in his paperwork caught up with him which nearly cost him a contract altogether. After his Haitian birth records were retrieved, the Yankees and the league were satisfied that there wasn’t any intent to deceive the league per se and New York signed him for $200,000 and assigned him to its Dominican Summer League affiliate in 2015.
Let us be clear…..Florial definitely strikes out a lot and of all his tools, his hit tool is the biggest question mark. He is an aggressive hitter, but he showed some good signs in terms of pitch selection and recognition, but some others that were less that good. He currently sports the highest strikeout percentage of his minor league career at 30.9%
for a guy that has very real raw power and the ability to barrel balls, he hits a lot of ground balls and he will need to convert more of them into line drives.
minorleagueball.com/2017/6/30/15897334/scouting-up…
so again NO. scouts also see him as a corner OF not a CF
Pretty good for a lil girl right Mikey–not you –MurderersRow27
metfan4ever
NO, Thor 26 yrs old and NONE of the players you have listed is a true CF who can hit. Frazier is 25 and cried when the Yankees sent him down. That why the Yankees and their fans want to move him–so NO. Audujar -why,we have a 3B that can make errors-AUDUJAR did lead MLB 3b in errors last year, that’s why the Yankees talked about him at 1B. so 2 of the 4 are not close to what the Mets need and didn’t Loizage fail in MLB already- so NO…
heater
Who would you rather have as a starter reliever combo in a trade? Taking cost of trade pieces going back.
Syndergaard/Diaz or Stroman/Giles.
Not saying either team would indeed do a deal just posing the question.
kleppy12
Thor and Diaz due to the upside and hope you can figure Diaz out.
therealryan
The Jays pair have completely outplayed the pair from the Mets this season, so I think the question really depends on the team. A team like Twins, Braves or Yankees would probably be better off with the Stroman/Giles duo. However as a fan of the Rays, who are only starting to open their window, I like the Thor/Diaz pair better because of the longer team control.
metnoxious
Simply put the Twins, Astros and Padres have better players to offer for Syndegard. Fraziers a DH. Florial is injury prone. Garcia is going to end up a reliever because of his size. Astros have much more to offer.
walls17
glad you can see the future!
Jkucharski
Mets are not going to sell. Trade thier prospects in the offseason and try to compete next year. It’s funny that every year people say they are going to compete.
fits65
Yes how true. They come out this time of year with vitriol in their blood as they’ve been hiding since May when it became apparent that it was another losing team.
Then in the hot stove time, no matter what trade the Mets make they beat their chests. Remember last year’s predictions here about how great the Cano deal was going to work out!
Guess what: there’s another 4 years of overplaying Robby as his skills continue to diminish.
Chives
No way they trade Thor. Although it is the Mets… just get whatever for the oft injured Wheeler and Matz.
jbigz12
Oft injured would describe Thor as well.
metfan4ever
jbigz12::::105 starts in 5 years and this years not over. They shut him down last year to save him. he has 1 year 2017 of only 7 starts that’s 21 starts with a 1 year 7 starts., Tanaka averages 25 starts and he didn’t have a 7 start year. so lets take that 7 start year out and that’s 24.5 same as Tanaka. MLB starters average 27 starts per year.
thebaseballanalyst
You can’t just say lets take the 7 start year out because it happened. What you can say is that with better defense (2.85 career fip) he would have had more wins and better overall numbers
jbigz12
You’re cherry picking years here. Thor hasn’t had a clean slate of health to date. I do like him as a pitcher. May not be an issue for anyone of those 3 moving forward. But let’s stick to facts.
nstale
Thor to Houston for Kyle Tucker, Bryan Abreu, and Cristian Javier.
steven st croix
Astros do that!
bencole
This actually could happen
Strosfn79
This would be a good deal if the Astros outfield situation wasn’t so dire.
Top 4 outfielders will all be free agents after next season. That makes Tucker much more valuable and therefore untouchable.
Abreu and Javier are fine, but for a deal to get done the Mets would need to accept 2 additional lesser prospects than Tucker.
Maybe Ross Adolph (return) and Tyler Ivey if the Mets are looking for 2021 or beyond
Or Derek Fisher and Cionel Perez if they are looking at 2021.
mets322
They arent moving Noah, but if they did:
Yankees get Cano & Noah
Mets get Gleyber, Garcia, lower level prospects
themayor
You are out of your mind thinking the Yankees will take on Cano contract and deal you Gleyber along with their best pitching prospect for Thor.
walls17
Canos contract erases any value Noah has. But here, take Gleyber and a top 50 prospect too! You’re crazy
mets322
Mets would have to eat part or most of $$ for better prospects in return…thought that would be obvious in any deal involving cano…but people only take face value here i see
themayor
The Yankees aren’t trading Gleyber Torres. He is probably the 2nd most untouchable player on the Yankees next to Aaron Judge. No amount of money being offset is going to change that, especially for Thor. You want to trade Degrom, then MAYBE it’s a conversation, but that would never happen with the two clubs.
bencole
There’s no amount of money eaten that makes this trade not ridiculous.
themayor
^^^ what bencole said
driftcat28 2
Lmfao! Gleyber’s not going anywhere
Henry Silvestre
Thor + Comforto to SDP Reyes + Lucchesi + Baez and Reed to Mets who says no?
metfan4ever
NO Thank You.
bencole
Mets easy
Padres r knocking on the door
What part of tonight’s Mets Padres game would make you think that they want Reyes in that outfield?
slider32
Thor would cost the Yanks Frazier, Andujar, Garcia, and Estrada.
bencole
Yeah take Andujar out and that might be the ceiling for the return… I think it’s a bit less than that
jbigz12
Ben we can’t prospect hug that much. That’s not a very good offer. Deivi is no sure thing as a starting pitcher. Thairo Estrada is a probable utility man and Clint Frazier can’t play defense (yet). Which also doesn’t account for that fact that the Mets really don’t need another corner outfielder.
If Frazier was a an above average defensive CF who could hit like that then yeah, sure that’d be a deal. But Garcia + Frazier + a utility infielder for Thor? No shot. Thor has a 3.6 FIP and I’ll gamble on him going forward over Deivi Garcia. Any day of the week. Which is irrelevant because I think the second BVW called the Astros they’d top that.
fits65
He’s not smart enough to call the Astros and with Brody’s reputation as a nice guy that is not qualified, coupled with being a weak negotiator the Mets have no hope of a good outcome.
msqboxer
Just curious…what was the last major Mets/Yankees trade?
Roll
last trade i can think of was burke for i think stanton which was just a moving of relievers. The last bigger named trade i believe was with David Justice way back when.
didi gregorious nose
Wasnt it felix herredia?.or something like that
driftcat28 2
I remember that! Mike Stanton for Felix Herredia (04 I believe)
walls17
i wonder what would happen if someone decided to take back some bad contracts. say someone picks up the tab on the rest of the cespedes money and the lowrie money. that free payroll might be more valuable to the mets than any other team, as they are probably at their payroll cap for next year when factoring ARB raises
jbigz12
Cespedes only has a year left and i believe they have an insurance policy on him. I think there’s a good shot he’s not going to play and they’ll collect all that money. Don’t think that’d be extremely desirable to get rid of.
metfan4ever
Insurance is paying Cespedes and you can’t trade a player on IR. He would have to be active to be moved.
bencole
You can trade a player on IL.
dobsonel
The Yankees traded Fowler who was on IR just 2 seasons ago.
fits65
And where does the insurance money from Ces go?
NOT into the roster for sure.
fitsiqis65
Would love Thor but cash doesn’t have the testicular fortitude to pay the price….
I’m totally prepared for the next incarnation of a #4 guy like happless Lynn and Garcia in Ray and cash selling it like the second coming plus getting seve as the equivalent to an ace acquisition.
Can we please try some else other than cash???
SecsSeksSecks
Here come the Mets fans pointing out that juice head Cano hit 3 homers last night. I bet some of them are ignorant enough to think the trade will still work out now.
metfan4ever
They traded for Diaz and had to take Cano
fits65
Great story headline.
Really bad script.
Worse results.
4 more years of this nightmare ahead.
fits65
That’s a great story, however they DIDNT HAVE to make the real. Jerry Dipoto was negotiating with rookie agent salesman GM who broke out in a sweat with money in his pocket. Jerry sat back and kept asking for more as he piled the Cano garbage into the deal.
Worst trade in the last ten years.
If you don’t think so now, I can’t wait for your reactions as Cano’s performance and effort continue to diminish.
Strosfn79
The Astros will need to trade Tony Kemp because they have no place for him on the roster.
Not a star but a great clubhouse guy who is a very good roleplayer.
I would expect a package of Buksuskas, Framber Valdez OR Cionel Perez, Kemp, and Derek Fisher would really help the Mets.
king beas
Is that the package for Wheeler?
LostYankeeinexile
Thor to the Yankees … hmmm Some combination of two of Frazier/Florial/Estrada. add Devi plus a throw in pitching prospect … Loiasiga, Adams, Abreu and your in the ballpark of what you’d have to pay. These people saying Gleyber are nuts… Gleyber would go straight up for Thor sorry. There is no package with him in it. And Gleyber straight up for Thor couldn’t be sold to either fanbase.
fitsiqis65
agreed 100%- cash needs ot get it done. Brodie doesn’t seem to abide by old Met rule and appears eager to wheel and deal. Your buddy cashman needs to get on this and pay the price.
LostYankeeinexile
I see that price bring reasonable… but I just don’t see Mets ownership signing off on it. Brodie for all his power doesn’t get final word … nor does Cashman for that matter. After some high dollar mistakes in Cespedes and Cano … The Mets seem to want names and flash … Estrada is a huge talent and underrated … I’d be salivating at him as a GM. Frazier is a project for defense, Devi is a wild card hoping to catch lightning in a bottle. Meanwhile Thor has injury history and is a down year. It all makes sense… but there’s that crosstown itch that just pisses the DiWilpons off
king beas
Mets aren’t going to trade a guy who has everything you want in an ace for non top prospects. Throw in as many garbage players who can’t crack the Yankees roster as you want it’s not realistic
LostYankeeinexile
Ummm Estrada, Frazier, Florial, Garcia, Loiasiga…. all top prospects and even some MLB ready ones. Where are you reading? Gleyber isn’t a prospect… he’s a two time all star position player. When Thor wins a Cy Young … then we can talk Gleyber trade but your understanding of market value is way off of you think Thorbis worth anywhere near Gleyber.
metfan4ever
lostyankeeinexile–Estrada, Frazier, Florial, Garcia, Loiasiga–none are top 30 prospects outside of the yankee’s system. MLB.com has Florial(if that’s his real name) @ 45 and that’s the highest ranked Yankee prospect.
RMenzel
It”s funny how many people jump on a player because of hype and name….. Thor has done nothing this year!! 4.4 ERA in NL that compares to an ERA close to 5 in the AL.
bush1
Not to mention he’s very injury prone
jdodge22
None of your scenarios will happen. Cashman will dope Brodie’s drink and again he’ll get what he wants giving up only the bat boy and an old pair of cleats
Socrates Curveball
Padres have the combination of 40 Man Roster pieces without roles in San Diego that would provide immediate depth to the Mets combined with high end athletic position player prospects to begin the transition of getting the Mets more athletic & fixing the Defense.
Plus, they’ve got MLB Ready Starters with longterm control that can immediately replace Noah’s innings.. Few even drafted when Allard Baird was in Boston (Logan Allen, Anderson Espinoza).
Let’s say Noah for
SP Logan Allen
LHP Matt Strahm
RHP Brett Kennedy
OF Buddy Reed
SS Xavier Edwards
RHP Anderson Espinoza
Bet Mets would have interest in another form Red Sox prospect Manny Margot. Maybe 3rd Basemen Ty France? The entire Padres system really fits what the Mets need.
Gwynning
Take X-Man and Baby Pedro out but add Frenchy and maybe Franchy and it sounds more reasonably realistic.
phenomenalajs
Actually, the only Mets-[former] Yankees’ trade I’d like to make right now is to send Mickey to the broadcast booth for Joe Girardi.
BradysTornACL
Is this the same Steve Adams who claimed in his site-sponsored chat that if the Twins offered their top 2 prospects for Thor Diaz and Familia (with all 3 players under control for multiple years), Twins wouldn’t accept? Please share more such laughable predictions.
Thor isn’t being traded this summer.
Wheeler shouldn’t be dealt either, given that Brodie will find a way to get raped again.
fits65
Anything that Brodie does will expose his lack of ability in the GM slot and lead to being taken to the cleaners.
The only GM that will not be chasing him is Jerry Dipoto who cannot keep himself from bursting into uncontrollable laughter at the site of Mr. Handsome “Bold Predictions” GM.
king beas
Syndergaard and the Wilpons for the Steinbrenner’s straight up
driftcat28 2
Mmmm not enough, got to add Cashman and Yankee stadium then maybe they’ll talk
– any yankee hater on MLBTR
bush1
That Cano/Diaz deal was idiotic from day one. Brodie is a moron.