The Cardinals are giving rival organizations the sense that they’ll consider trading a young outfielder or even talented righty Carlos Martinez this summer, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. In particular, Rosenthal’s source cites Tyler O’Neill and Lane Thomas as potential outfield trade pieces for the Cards. The note comes in the course of a broader column (subscription link) on some key questions for the upcoming trade deadline.
It’s a bit difficult to parse this news. O’Neill and Thomas have each seen MLB action this year, though only the former has spent enough time in the majors to tell us much. O’Neill faces long-term questions about his on-base ability, but has been plenty productive (.269/.313/.505) in 224 total plate appearances at the game’s highest level. Thomas hasn’t quite followed up on his strong ’18 output in the upper minors, but he’s seen as a legitimate prospect with at least fourth-outfielder potential.
There are arguments to be made that both of these players ought to be seen as important future pieces for the Cards. Marcell Ozuna is headed for free agency (and presently sidelined with injury), Jose Martinez hasn’t hit enough to make up for his awful outfield glovework, and Harrison Bader has taken a big step back this season. Dexter Fowler has bounced back but still isn’t quite worth his contract. Of course, the St. Louis organization has cycled through quite a few outfield pieces in recent years, having dealt away prime, cost-controlled seasons of players such as Tommy Pham, Stephen Piscotty, and Randal Grichuk.
It’s even harder to gauge the team’s thinking with regard to Martinez. The saga has continued for the hurler even as he has produced excellent results when healthy, no matter in what capacity. He’s through 20 2/3 innings of 2.18 ERA ball as a reliever this year, with 9.6 K/9 against 3.0 BB/9 and a hefty 63.3% groundball rate. While he’s not a particularly cheap player, especially if viewed as a reliever, Martinez’s contract is hardly worrisome for a 27-year-old with his ability level and track record. He’s due $11.5MM this year along with the ensuing two seasons before a pair of club options become available. That’d be a bargain if Martinez can get back to being a quality rotation piece, and not a bad rate if he carves out a new role as a quality back-end reliever.
Generally, it seems each of these three players fits the needs of the St. Louis organization. Unless the club prefers to pick up a better but lesser-controlled outfielder, or shave Martinez’s contract obligations while he’s in a stable place in terms of health and performance, it’s not immediately obvious why any would be dangled in particular.
Notably, we still haven’t heard a definitive statement or report on the Cardinals’ plans for attacking the trade deadline. The club has not strayed too far from the lead in the NL Central, but it also hasn’t moved out of the orbit of an approximately .500 record. As things stand entering play today, the Red Birds are two games over even and an equal number back of the division-leading Cubs. One might think that the St. Louis organization’s postseason drought makes it a win-now buyer, but it’s also arguable that the club shouldn’t overvalue its competitive position and should act in a restrained manner — or, perhaps, target only assets that will also deliver future value.
If the club’s general stance is unclear, it’s also debatable which areas of the roster are most susceptible of improvement. You could certainly make a case for one or more big bats. Frankly, there’s probably room in either the infield or the outfield. It’s equally arguable that a high-end starter should be a priority. The relief unit has some nice pieces, but what bullpen couldn’t stand to be upgraded — especially with a high-leverage arm?
baseballhockeyguy
Don’t trade O’Neil. He is literally one of the reasons you traded Tommy Pham.
fourth_dimension
Agreed. O’Neill is a perfect fit in LF if Ozuna leaves via FA. He can also play RF or CF. In a season, where their offense has been starved and Ozuna is on the IL for who knows how long, this would be a major mistake.
I personally think that Bader or Jmart will be moved, possibly both. Lane Thomas and Randy Arozarena can take both of those spots.
Fowler has been at his career norms, so that is fine for now.
baseballhockeyguy
You probably could get something good out of bader. I think J-Mart belongs in the AL as a DH.
Trevor44
I agree. The dude has power. He just dont have fielding capabilities and cant seem to get enough play time for this reason
CardsNation5
No he’s not. The Cardinals traded Pham because of his big mouth and the fact that Bader is the better defensive CF.
jdgoat
Trading your best outfielder just because they couldn’t handle the truth might not have been the best idea in hindsight.
batty
Whose truth? A disgruntled corner OFer that was upset because he wasn’t brought up sooner, despite his constant injury battles? Pham is a pretty good player, but he whined like he was a star being shunned.
Bunselpower
If you are buying what Tommy “Leon” Pham was selling as truth, I have a bridge you might be interested in…honestly, I do.
Lennon's Dad
His 41.5 K% isn’t convincing that he belongs in the daily lineup.
highplainsdriftr
Farhan Zaidi on line 1…..
and holding on line 2
jekporkins
Right now the Giants outfield is on fire, actually. However, we’re still on hold when you want to chat.
benvk
Stroman for O’Neill and Martinez – DONE
hockeyjohn
Not done. Toronto needs starting pitching in a trade of Stroman and Giles.
jdgoat
Add in your top pitching prospect and sure.
RootedInOakland
Yea I’m sure the Jays are really hoping to add 2 more OFs to the mix for Stroman, Cards don’t even have pitching prospects tho so no way are they good trade partners
natelowda2
I dont see how they dont have pitching prospects?
EndinStealth
Cards have lots of pitching prospects, just no one in the future ace category.
nmendoza7
I bet you felt smart
bencole
Martinez doesn’t really fit the Jays competitive window
bencole
Hmm… Jose Martinez doesn’t… can’t tell if he’s talking about CMart or JMart. CMart may not either but he’s a very nice flipable buy-low
i13amKB
If we are to be trade partners with the Blue Jays I think we have to offer an arm. I would like to see us add Stroman and Aaron Sanchez. I’d offer Lane Thomas, Steven Gingery and Malcolm Nunez. Youth movement in Toronto. They want YOUNG guys,
Vizionaire
not much at all!
Lou Klimchock
You can add Oscar Mercado to the Cardinals give-away-young-outfielders list.
fourth_dimension
You act as if they gave him away for nothing. Mercado was redundant. They have the same tool sets in O’Neill w/more power. Lane Thomas has the same or better skills than Mercado. Same with Arozarena. You cannot keep all of these guys.
They received two solid prospects in return. Let them grow and see what happens before full judgement is passed.
Michael Chaney
I’m an Indians fan, and Capel is a decent prospect but hasn’t really done enough to separate himself from anyone else. Jhon Torres could be an absolute monster a few years down the road (and was raking in rookie ball last I checked), but he was so far away that the Indians opted to take the more sure thing instead.
Mercado has struggled at times but I think he’s shown enough to be their center fielder of the future, and I think for them it was worth the risk of whatever Torres might become.
Bunselpower
Yeah, Torres was the piece, and the Cardinals are confident enough they can develop a quality outfielder out of him but with his delayed timetable. Mercado was impossible to keep down but blocked. They needed to capitalize on his value now.
batty
There should be no one safe from being traded, if it helps to improve a team.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Shame they couldn’t have traded O’Neill yesterday afternoon.
Robertowannabe
I’d settle for this afternoon, just in case he is still hot 🙂
spudchukar
I hope and pray that they can trade him this afternoon. He is a good guy who plays hard and has awesome power, but unfortunately has pitiful plate recognition. Similar to Grichuk. If he could bring back a decent left-handed corner outfielder, I would be all in. Who are the Cards going to get in return for Martinez that is better than him?
Bennybosox
Bader & Martinez for Benintendi
ABCD
I’m guessing you want Carlos rather than Jose.
jbigz12
The cardinals should probably take that. Bader has a huge Grichuk like hole in his swing. Martinez is an expensive reliever now. A very good reliever but he isn’t cheap. I think Bader is another JBJ all glove CF so I don’t see how Boston isn’t far worse off with 2 guys like that in their OF. They’d need to go get a legitimate corner OF immediately after the deal.
king beas
Guessing that trade proposal was a joke?
bencole
It better have been
ntorsky
Matt Boyd for Tyler O’Neill, Kolten Wong, and cash. Who hangs up first?
66TheNumberOfTheBest
I imagine those guys have used up too much service clock to interest the Tigers, but add Carlos Martinez and a mid level prospect and it might be enough to land Bauer.
Seems like the kind of retool on the fly type deal the Indians have hinted at wanting for him.
CardsNation5
The Cardinals
RootedInOakland
Lol Cards fans are the best I mean worst, not even close to a good enough package for Boyd u really think a glove first 2B and a dude with a .300 OBP is gonna get u a controllable starter? Start including ur only top 100 prospect not named Gorman aka Carlson plus a guy like Genesis and ur a lot closer
stedmanslick
What a homer. The tigers would need quite a bit more than a solid but flawed corner bat and an all glove second baseman with little future control. Cmon now use your head.
birdsonbat
Tigers should rightly ask for more for boyd, but not like he’s an ace. Part of his value is inflated because of the deadline and what it means to any team willing to trade for him. I don’t see the cards/tigers lining up at all.
bencole
Agreed, he’s a number 3, but Wong has very little value, and the Cards will get outbid by 10 teams with that offer.
JoeBrady
Detroit hangs up and stops taking your phone calls. Wong is marginal, especially at his salary. Basically one good year, two years ago. In addition, he is gone by 2021, and Detroit is not in that window. O’Neil has some power, but his poor minor league plate discipline has carried over to the pros, with a staggering 91/11 K/W. If he had a good minor league K/W, then maybe you’d think he’d grow into it. But his minor league K/W is a little worse than 3/1.
spudchukar
Wong is actually better than you state. However, your take on O’Neill is spot on. As a Cards’ fan I hope they can find a foolish buyer, enamored by his power and speed. We need a productive left-handed corner outfielder. We have all the other pieces.
bencole
Wong has very little trade value
GarryHarris
If Harrison Bader hits better than .250, he’s still valuable. His play in CF is exceptional. If the Tigers can get both Bader and Tyler O’Neill, then take it. Throw in Nick Castellanos with Matt Boyd. The Tigers already have enough Carlos Martinez type in the queue.
bencole
This is total nonsense. The Tigers will have several better offers, and I think most will say I’m the low guy on Boyd.
ClevelandGuardians2021
Hope the tribe gets in on this.
Chris Lee
Ian Kennedy for Martinez. Royals get bat for DH/1B, and continue reunion tour. Kennedy has been strong out of the bullpen, but contract is heavy. Gives Cards some stability in bullpen. Martinez is not a fit in NL.
batty
I don’t dislike that proposal at all.
jbigz12
The cardinals do. They aren’t paying 22 million for 1.5 years of Ian Kennedy. Now if the Royals ate half that deal, it’d be a different story.
batty
I kind of figured money would have to be involved and therefor not worthy of mentioning on this forum.
EndinStealth
Lol. Not worthy of being mentioned. That’s funny
dvogt
as a Cardinals fan this is upsetting to hear. Oniell should be starting LF next year. our most productive player in OF is Ozuna and he won’t be back next year that leaves a highly inconsistent outfield mix of Fowler/Bader/Martinez. They’ve made terrible signings the last 3 years and now they’re gonna ruin what promise we do have in young players.
jordantm2021
I would be more inclined to trade Carson’s
stan lee the manly
If they move O’Neill, it’s because they either A) have an extension for Ozuna lined up or B) think that someone like Dylan Carlson will be a better long-term piece.
I honestly think they may have already agreed to an Ozuna extension, they are just going to trade O’Neill before announcing it so other teams don’t come in lower than they would like since they would get zero benefits from keeping O’Neill at that point
kaido24
I’m okay with trading O’Neill and C Mart.
Rich Hill’s Elbow
What kinda return would St. Louis even be expecting for C-Mart?? Dude’s a reliever being paid a starter’s salary… And unless there’s a team out there that really has confidence in his ability to bounce back and be the starter he once was, I really don’t see the Cards getting anywhere near an ‘ace-like’ return for him.
cards81
Martinez isn’t just any reliever…he’s a lock down closer…and for that 11 million isn’t that bad..I personally think he should stay in the pen and just become a closer…what playoff bound team needs a closer? Because they should target Martinez
stedmanslick
He has 12 career saves. He’s shown he can be a quality reliever or starter but I wouldn’t call him a lockdown closer.
cards81
Before he became a starter he was a closer…did well then…now he is doing it again maybe I shouldn’t have said lockdown but he is a great closer…and well worth the salary…like I said if a team needs a closer they should target him
cards81
Look at his numbers this year…not to shabby
JoeBrady
Before he became a starter he was a closer…
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I’m guessing that you aren’t familiar with Baseball Reference.
1-He was never a closer, let alone a ‘closer before he became a starter’. He had -0- saves in the minors, and had 2 career saves before last year.
2-IRT a ‘lock down closer’, when did that happen? A week ago last Thursday? Because before that (cue the suspense music), Hicks was your closer.
cards81
Yes…but when he came up from the minors he came out of the pen and was terrific…every time he had been in the bullpen, whether it be coming back from injury or whatever, he has been great out of the pen…he is doing it again this year…yes it hasn’t been for awhile because he was hurt but the number don’t lie my friend…he has been great
clepto
Joe, Cards81 doesnt deal in facts. He is a sheeple. Dont waste time. Just point and laugh.
cards81
My biggest fan Clepto…hi Clepto…I was wondering where you went…sorry for embarrassing you last time
spudchukar
Sheeple are commenters like yourself who drone on using sheeple instead of any valuable contribution. It is old, tired, and lame.
clepto
[Yawns]
JoeBrady
Yes…but when he came up from the minors he came out of the pen and was terrific…
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In his first year, he had a 4.56 out of the BP. In his 2nd year, he had a 3.79. Were those the terrific years?
You’re either a good troll or a terrible baseball fan.
cards81
Yea he was good…numbers don’t tell the whole story Joe…trust me he was lights out…especially come playoff time
“Should Carlos Martinez start in 2014?
Cardinals’ pitcher Carlos Martinez has been lights out in a relief role this postseason. Should St. Louis leave him in the pen next year, or are they better off with him taking the ball every fifth day?
By Andrew Ball on October 26, 2013 4:00 pm”
cards81
I watched the games…did he have a couple of rough outings? Sure…but when it came time he was great
cards81
“Some scouts wonder if his size lends itself to the durability need in a starter — Baseball America Prospect Handbook, 2012
His long-term role is still up for debate, with the secondary stuff and command to excel as a starter, but with some concerns about his physical stability in a rotation coupled with his elite potential in the bullpen, others think he is destined for the late-innings. — Baseball Prospectus’ Jason Parks, 2013
He’s listed at 6-foot, 165 pounds, and his slight frame earns him comparisons to Pedro Martines (who also had a better changeup, for the matter), so the bout of shoulder soreness is less than ideal. If he can show he can stay healthy and effective for 150 innings this year, he’ll be back in line to pitch in the top two slots in someone’s rotation. If the shoulder issues recurs, he may end up a shutdown reliever with two pitches near the top of the 20-80 scale. — ESPN’s Keith Law, 2013“
cards81
Joe I know people are all about stats now and data is everything but they don’t always tell the whole story…are they useful? You bet…but it still takes an eye test..take Wainwright this year for example…people are down on him and will use his era to prove he hasn’t been any good…but he has been fine…he has had a couple of bad outing but what pitcher doesn’t…overall though wainwright has been very effective especially for his price
Rich Hill’s Elbow
The fact that Martinez’s role is even in question should bring down his price, but not significantly since he’s still capable of being a very good pitcher in either role.
Given that the Cards are looking for young major league ready players, I think the Twins would make a very good trade partner with all the depth they have in the upper levels of their system.
Most importantly (to me atleast), the Twins have two needs and C-Mart could possibly fill both; another effective reliever to pair with Rogers this season and a controllable starter for the next few seasons while the window is open.
cards81
I think the question is if he can still become an effective starter…honestly I have always thought he should pitch out of the pen because he has always been good out of the pen…when he came up from the minors he was awesome out of the pen and now he has filled the closer role and the cardinals don’t even miss Hicks that much…although of course he would help…it will be interesting to see what they could get but he should bring some good prospects just because he can close out games
jordantm2021
I don’t know why they would part with c-mart why not trade Wacha and Thomas and J-mart for a pitcher.
cards81
Nobody want Wacha lol not only can he not pitch but he would be a rental
JoeBrady
Because Wacha and J-Mart are both below a -0- WAR, and I don’t really know who Thomas is.
sufferforsnakes
Thank you for Oscar Mercado. Now we don’t have to wait for Zimmer to get healthy. Plus he’s solidified the lineup batting behind Lindor.
cards81
What would it take to get Bauer? I know he is a head case but he is the SP the cardinals need..
ClevelandGuardians2021
I’d be cool with o Neil or bader.
sufferforsnakes
I’d guess a major league ready outfielder, plus a higher prospect starting pitcher. Maybe one other lower level prospect of some kind.
One thing with Bauer is he’s never had arm problems, due to his unique regimen, and he’ll give you plenty of innings while keeping you in games. I’d rather the Tribe keep him, but I understand the business/cost side of it.
cards81
I could see O’Neill and Griffith Roberts…maybe even another throw in…
kiddhoff
In other news, every GM stated they are open to trading any of their players for the right price.
cards81
Lol that’s kinda what I got out of this
ElMagoN9ne
No one wants Lame Thomas
Nick Stevens
This ought to be fun watching MoGirsch get fleeced again this summer.
Binnington50
Why would ANY team (other than a AAA team) have interest in Bader or Jose Martinez? They are not good ball players having very down years. The return for them is nothing.
Chris79stl
It’s true, every cards player is average at best right now, it’s frustrating. They should listen on anyone on their 40 man roster
Indiansjoe
Plutko /cirvale and a couple lower lever prospects for Jose Martinez…
bluestorm51
I know Bader has struggled with the bat this year. But trading him would be a mistake. He plays gold glove defense, has excellent speed, and more importantly has the one thing that cannot be coached. He has heart and hustle. He just maybe needs to go down to Memphis for a bit and work on his hitting. I still think it will come around and he will be an All-Star caliber player in upcoming years.
Nick Stevens
Bader is Bourjos
spudchukar
You are boring.
Nick Stevens
Great comeback, Spud. Comp is real and you know it, otherwise you would have a better response.
Chris79stl
Bader is awful at the plate.. he is all speed and defense, wait that’s bourjos
Bunselpower
I would be very upset to see O’Neill go. He might turn into nothing, but he has really shown a unique set of skills with his power and speed. His pitch recognition improved mightily in the minors and there’s no reason to believe he can’t do that in the majors as well. If we keep Fowler in the games and get rid of O’Neill that will be a very big mistake. O’Neill is that spark we’ve been searching for all year, let him play. He should be playing in place of Bader until Bader can figure it out.
spudchukar
About that pitch recognition thing, he still has miles to go.
Chris79stl
O’Neil cannot he called a spark after 3 games… guy is a strike out king. Those pitchers for the pirates last night had no idea where the ball was going watching the catchers glove. Let’s see his numbers after a month.
CrewBrew
not sure why. Ozuna is going to get big money in free agency when he leaves and the Fowler contract is ugly, plus Martinez can barely play the outfield. Youd think they’d hold onto their young outfielders.
CrewBrew
I was a big tommy pham guy. Thought he had the making to be a solid bat and he is showing it now. Thought the Cards sold him way too fast kind of like the brewers did with segura and gennett. Always seemed to get big hits against us
stan lee the manly
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if an Ozuna extension is coming and that is why they are open to moving O’Neill. Otherwise I agree, doesn’t seem like the right time to move him
Nick Stevens
Another bad extension by Eddie Bauer if it happens
stan lee the manly
I don’t really get what Eddie Bauer has to do with baseball, but it might be bad and it might work out great. You never know until the numbers are in the books.
petrie000
Well, if they’re not willing to trade Yadi straight up for Mike Trout, they have to have some sort of plan b…
Kenneth C.
Petrie, it’s Yadi from the board. When the hell are you going to join the new board where everyone else is? Literally all the regulars are there. Message me on reddit for the link dammit!
DarkSide830
mans has a Reddit, who would have guessed
petrie000
You know my reddit I’d, just message it to me
Socrates Curveball
GM in STL has made disastrous decisions since assuming the position in 2017. Dexter Fowler, Brett Cecil, Paul Goldschmidt. Gave away Luke Voit (Gallegos is a nice piece I suppose), jettisoned Tommy Pham, Marco Gonzales. Acquired the wrong Marlin (Ozuna over Yelich), Consistently keep the wrong players and don’t get value back in various trades (Grichuk, Pham, Piscotty).
Outfield remains in flux, bullpen isn’t strong enough and the Goldy trade is going to prove disastrous. Cardinals are closer to rebuild than contention and should thus look to move assets to expedite the process of building a winner around Nolan Gorman, their young starters, Dylan Carlson etc.
Why do non premium markets ALWAYS fall into the trap of overpaying 1st basemen deep into their 30s (Tigers, Reds, Card’s, Orioles, Padres)?
spudchukar
The current bull pen is a plus, with Junior Fernandez lurking. Perhaps an additional lefty could help. Granted some of the GM moves have been less than stellar. Brett Cecil comes to mind. But even that one at the time had reason; very few lefties on the market that off-season, the reason they overpaid. Voit was blocked, just another right-handed Matt Adams. Put Ravelo in the NY lineup and park and he would have similar numbers. The Cards have won 88,83, and 86 games.the past 3 seasons, and sit two games out of first right now in a very tough division. Those things do not happen with lousy management. Like all Cards’ fans I hope for more, but management cannot play the game, just put players in place hoping to succeed. It is far too early to write off Goldschmidt. He is still of value, even if he doesn’t hit better, which I still believe he will. Gonzalez would only be a #5, and not a particularly good one, and they got O’Neill who may just be moved for a piece they need. That is too broad a brush you use to value recent moves, and too early to brush them off.
Bunselpower
Thank you for being reasonable. Eventually the ball has to hit wood and leather, and that just hasn’t been happening.
Bunselpower
Lol, come on man. At least make it more difficult for me..
Calling Goldschmidt a disaster is so shortsighted I can’t even believe it. Luke Voit was king of the 300 foot fly ball here with us (and late bloomers tend to have early falls, not to mention he has the protection of the best lineup around now). Please show me any evidence of a star ready to erupt. Tommy Pham ran his mouth one too many times and paid for it.
And how many times will the Ozuna lie be repeated. Yelich was not available at the time. They planned on keeping him until they traded everyone else away and he came back and told them they better trade him too. You cannot keep judging past moves through a present lens. The Cards went after the best available Marlins outfielder.
Grichuk is a below average hitter and we have a great reliever in Leone. Piscotty had extenuating circumstances (and Munoz is a great piece).
The bullpen has the 6th lowest ERA in the bigs. How much better before we’re strong enough?
DarkSide830
Thomas is a lifetime .251 hitter, including his performance in the Majors, which actually raises said number. if he’s just as valued by another team as O’Neil is, the choice is obvious which one to hold onto.
SliderWithCheese
They should trade anyone that wears a number. They won’t be decent for another 5yrs anyway.
tombenton
Trade for MBum and Will Smith
troll
why trade anyone. just release matt carpenter jose martinez and dexter fowler.
DarkSide830
true to your name, that’s for sure
chan brewster
I like the way you think.
live42day
I like the way you think Troll.
spudchukar
I say move Fowler to the Cubs for Swarber. Eat some cash and maybe throw in a decent reliever.
chan brewster
I think we need to address more problems. Like Mat Carpenter Kolton Wong and Dexter Flower. We need a leadoff hitter not a leadoff hitting 215. We spend a lot of money for our players and not the good free agents. We can’t win with this team . I think we need to rebuild and go with the youth.
Chris79stl
Tommy Pham would be a good lead off hitter… wait….
chan brewster
We need a new GM BAD!!!!!!!!
birdsonbat
What you got against girsch? Lol. Mo is one pulling strings, and i wish he was on hot seat, but don’t think that’s the case. Would love to see someone younger/hungrier with a different vision and direction and means to go about it. Hate the sit on our hands/handcuff ourselves with contracts cycle we’re in atm.
chan brewster
We need to trade for Hunter Renfroe of SD. Great power hitter and a good outfielder.
birdsonbat
Oh you mean SD tyler O’Neill?
bobfromboyntonbeach
Thanks for Mercado……Two Home Runs Yesterday!
Saybow69
GNot sure how you ignore Dylan Carlson. & Nolan Gorman.? Lol. Prob; 2 best young OFs on Cards. Don’t thinks Avilla as dumb as this article. Tyler O’Neill maybe, but don’t want those other bums over 2 studs in minors? No way
Nick Stevens
Mental midget Martinez sees trade rumors. Typically comes in tonight and blows the game. Not shocked at all.
Zachary Hines
Cardinals need offensive.
O Neil should not be traded. He good power and defense. Yes he strikes out alot but so do alot of other power hitters. I do agree RF is in need to be upgraded. DeX has been better then last year for sure. Pitching is fine. They just dont get run support. If we go after Will Smith to close send CMart to the minors to stretch back to a starter. Pence de Leon back to BP trade Wacha for the best you can get.