The Yankees acquired slugger Edwin Encarnacion from the Mariners on Saturday, but that probably won’t be the last headline-grabbing deal the Bombers make before the July 31 deadline. Still in need of starting pitching, the Yankees are monitoring the market for potential rotation additions, general manager Brian Cashman revealed Monday (via Bryan Hoch of MLB.com).
Cashman said he and his front office cohorts are “certainly compiling a list of the names that are available that are obvious, and we’re compiling a list of the names that might become available.” Tigers left-hander Matthew Boyd, Giants southpaw Madison Bumgarner, Blue Jays righties Marcus Stroman and Aaron Sanchez, and Mets righty Zack Wheeler are a few prominent starters who may wind up on the move by the end of next month. MLBTR’s Jeff Todd pointed to those five and several other rotation pieces when breaking down the game’s most likely trade chips Monday.
While Cashman’s roster is 43-27 and a half-game up on the Rays in the American League East, the Yankees have gotten to this point despite some questions in their rotation. Ace Luis Severino has been out all year with a lat strain, but if he returns on schedule next month, it could go a long way toward helping the Yankees win the division for the first time since 2012.
Severino, James Paxton and Masahiro Tanaka would give the Yankees three quality starters if healthy. Still, there would be concerns in the Yankees’ starting five. Veteran lefties J.A. Happ and CC Sabathia haven’t met expectations this year, which partially explains why New York’s eyeing outside help. Righty Domingo German has been tremendous at times, on the other hand, but he stumbled in recent weeks before going on the injured list June 9 with a left hip flexor strain. Furthermore, depth is lacking in New York’s rotation at the moment, so getting Severino back and acquiring another starter pre-deadline would enable the team to move two of Happ, Sabathia and German into No. 6/7 roles.
Of course, the Yankees already had a chance to pick up a mid-rotation or front-end type in free agent Dallas Keuchel, whom they had interest in before he signed with the Braves on June 7. The Braves gave Keuchel $13MM, more than the deep-pocketed Yankees were willing to spend on a few months of control over the ex-Astro. Because Keuchel’s no longer in play, the Yankees’ only choice is to find a Severino-Paxton-Tanaka complement via the trade market in the next several weeks – something Cashman’s trying to do.
LostYankeeinexile
If Cashman has proven anything, don’t pay attention to the names in the rumors. He’s a ninja at concealing who his true target is, and keeping other teams from inflating prices in a bidding war.
jorge78
It was just the usual suspects…..
jdgoat
If he makes an offer, do you not think the other team would get final offers from other ones as well? They aren’t just going to trade him to the first team just because Bob Nightengale or Jon Heyman didn’t report rumours lol
todd76
He’s going after Mike Leake.
Xavier Blaine
Boy does this sound familiar to X’s catchphrase: #NinjaCash
Benjamin560
Mike Leake, just saying
FSF
In other words, the Yankees are doing what virtually every contending team is doing.
LostYankeeinexile
Well every other team isn’t getting the AL home run leader for a rookie ball player sooo no.. Cashman and his crew are doing something much better.
LostYankeeinexile
Not to mention having both Tampa and Seattle paying most of his salary.
Xavier Blaine
How is Tampa paying for Encarnacion?
Jonthunder
$5MM from their initial trade with Seattle.
Polish Hammer
Yeah they took $5million from Tampa and sent $6million to Cleveland for Santana in the same deal, so it’s not exactly true to say Tampa and Seattle are paying most of his salary.
LostYankeeinexile
Fair point .. but it is true that the Yankees aren’t paying most of it. That’s the takeaway here. Juan Then … and 3 mil got us EE
snotrocket
They ended up taking on 5MM or something in the 3 way that sent him to Seattle.
ChiSoxCity
Watch the Jankees get another premium player in yet another lopsided trade. At some point, this farce will end with them getting to a WS. Just get it over already, then go away. What a joke.
tacohole
Waaahhh???
EvilEmpire
South side Chicago. What a dumpster..
robbie71
dumpster…”fire”
luckyh
LOL they sound like the NY Post. Every team is monitoring the starting pitching market.
Ji-Man Choi
Could make yet another trade with Seattle for Gonzales. Seems unlikely, but you can never say anything is impossible in baseball
qbert1996
Why would Seattle give up its closest thing to an ace who is still young and controllable?
yankee766766
so now Marco Gonzalez is an ace ??? And that would be based on ??????
LostYankeeinexile
@luckyh True but not every team is as good at making trades. Cashman over the last 3 years has given up practically nothing in exchange for Stanton, Voit, and Now EE. Yes he also made a deal for Sonny Gray who was horrible but no GM is perfect. However, name one other GM that’s gotten that level of top tier talent at those prices? Like the Yankees or not … you gotta give credit to Cashman
luckyh
Stanton is a big part of the reason they need starting pitching. They should regret that trade. As a Red Sox fan I was thrilled when they got him. They should have gone after pitching then, but they went after the shiny thing instead. If you are on a budget, which they were, you can’t do that. I have always respected Cashman, but not the NY Post.
LostYankeeinexile
I feel you on going after pitching, but there’s not a whole lot of available aces out there and that’s what the Yankees need. Look what you guys had to give up for Sale. Now I’m not saying that was a bad trade, but Sale was an obvious ace. Scherzer is the only real ace that MIGHT be on the trade market….now with 60 million left on his contract might cost a few less prospects if the Yankees take in his entire salary, but they’d still likely have to give up the farm to get him. Even if he was made available… the Nats would probably get a better offer from a deeper farm system. Red Sox spent the farm recently and are hovering around some luxury tax issues. The Yanks might not want to follow suit with a good SP free agent class coming up.
yankees2016rebuild
Sherzer would be amazing but it would never happen. The nationals have one of the worst front office they decided not to trade for a top reliever and the Cubs did and they won it all. Then the following season they trade that pitcher and a top outfielder for a injury plagued number 2 outfielder at best even their own players where like WTF. They always think their one player away but never have the guts to pull the trigger on a deal to get them that extra help. Sherzer is going to waste away like Kershaw never winning unless they demand a trade but not everyone likes to be a winner.
LostYankeeinexile
I gotta agree the odds would be low… I personally think Cash is going to chase a Alex Wood type. Just no attainable aces right now.
thefenwayfaithful 2
The team is built as it is for a few years for the most part and for the Yankees that’s a good thing. They shouldn’t spend too much in terms of prospects, going after anyone without at least one additional year of control beyond this one. I think the volatility of the recent markets doesn’t exactly apply to the top tier arms and why take on guys that are expensive and getting older when you have some expendable assets you can move? The trouble is finding a target. If I’m Cash guys like Alex Wood are the last thing I’m looking at. He’s injured again and hasn’t pitched. Why waste anything on that? I’d be calling on Boyd for sure. But the targets are slim for controllable assets without extensive injury histories.
The teams out of the playoff hunt aren’t exactly stacked with top arms.
todd76
@ lostyankeeinecule. Is that you X?
PopeMarley
Dude I posed the same question. Sure seems to check all the boxes.
LostYankeeinexile
I don’t know who X is but everyone keeps asking me if I’m him…. who is this guy?
24TheKid
Yep, definitely him.
LostYankeeinexile
No not him … this is the only name I’ve ever used here. I’m originally from manhattan but living in Nashville TN hence the Yankee in exile … no idea why X is … no idea why I keep getting compared to him and would appreciate someone shining a light on that subject please
Steven Chinwood
He obviously won’t admit it since just the mere mention of his name can’t be posted. Keep it on the DL x till the inevitable.
LostYankeeinexile
No and keep getting mistaken for him. Could you please explain who this X guy is and why I keep getting compared to him?
kahnkobra
EE is old and has a bad back, no one was over anxious to trade for him, hence why he was able to get him for a lottery ticket and cash. Jeter got Cash on that Stanton deal, he’s gonna be an albatross for years to come
LostYankeeinexile
Jeter got rid of Stanton’s contract so I guess that’s getting cash back. But Cashman traded nothing and the Yankees can afford the contract is the point of my post. No other GM in big market or small market has gotten the players he has at such a pittance in trade value
evilempire28
Wheeler for Frazier makes too much sense. Too bad the Wilpon’s are scared to deal with the Yankees.
mrmet17
Makes too much sense for who? Why do the Mets need a player who’s basically a DH they are such a liability in the field?
rocky7
You do know that good coaches, even on the Mets, can coach a player like Frazier, who is all of 24, to play league average defense with a little time and effort. That is what “a coaching staff” is all about on ML teams isn’t it?
And his hitting and ability to slug would be an attribute within the Mets offense for a long time.
Don’t judge Frazier like all these “expert posters” who only know stats and probably have never even see Frazier play. Too easy to denigrate a young kid who hasn’t had 600 major league at bats and the subsequent experience of playing the field in even 140 or so games.
Ketch
Don’t the Yankees have a coaching staff that worked with Frazier?
Ketch
The massively underrated Mike Minor for Frazier makes more sense. But the Rangers have to decide to sell first.
AndyMeyer
It’s going to take a lot more to get Minor or Wheeler for just Frazier
hockeyjohn
Minor is as valuable if not more than Frazier. Minor is a solid starting pitcher which is valuable. Frazier is a solid hitting, poor defensive outfielder with health (concussion) concerns. Pitching will win that battle every time.
AndyMeyer
Agreed. That’s why I said it’ll take more than just Frazier to get Minor or Wheeler
pinstripes17
why would the Yanks trade one of their best young hitters for a rental with an ERA of almost 5?
sufferforsnakes
Just so it’s not a pitcher from Cleveland.
Ronk325
As a Yankee fan nothing would make me happier than seeing them trade for Trevor Bauer
AndyMeyer
It’s doable. The Yankees have the farm to get him. It’ll start with Florial and go from there
Ronk325
I wouldn’t be opposed to them including Florial in a trade for Bauer. I’d have to imagine the Indians would also be interested in getting Frazier back since he can play right away and none of their current OF’s other than Mercado can hit
the guru
Boyd is who everyone wants. 3 years control/cheap which is what Yankees have to get due to luxury tax, and he’s on pace to put up 7 war. This issue is I don’t think the Yankees have the prospects to get him.
The tigers aren’t going to want Esteban Florial who hasn’t been healthy in 3 years and Clint Frazier whose clock started in 2017, they would love to have those guys but them alone is not near enough. Gonna have to give up a lot more than that and they don’t have anymore top 100s unfortunately.
LostYankeeinexile
You’re right we don’t have too 100s but between Frazier, Estrada, Andujar, German .. we have a surplus of MLB ready and proven talent which is actually better than unproven prospects. There also Devi , Jordan Montgomery, and a host of young talented pitchers in lower level ball as sweeteners. Boyd though as good as he’s been this year, hasn’t been nearly as good throughout is career… So is it a fluke season or real talent? And how much do you give up on that gamble. Now Scherzer Is empty the farm for … but Boyd isn’t as safe as a bet
kahnkobra
Andujar arm is shot, no one is gonna accept him in a trade until he proves he’s 100% healthy
LostYankeeinexile
True but there’s still Urshela and Maybin as well. Andujar would be a sweetener if someone wanted to take a flyer in him. The point was he was a proven mlb level hitter. That has more value then untested prospects.
Ketch
Cameron Maybin has trade value?
Nobody wants Urshela and his career .654OPS. I think most GMs have noticed that his .338 BABIP is about 60 points higher than normal. He’s a throw-in at best…
LostYankeeinexile
If Juan Then and Kendra’s Morales have trade value then Maybin absolutely does as well. He’s no centerpiece but as a throw in to get the deal done he’s got value. As for Urshela… yes he’s still unproven longterm but has been very hot and his defense alone garners him value .. the bat staying strong is only increasing his value daily. Again no centerpiece to a deal, but he bundled with a headliner like Florial or Frazier or even Devi … you could get some top flight players for that market value.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Why trade cheap, controllable guys such as Andujar and German that have already proven to be able perform well at the MLB level? Boyd isn’t it a fluke if you look at his advanced peripheral stats. He’s not ace status so I don’t the tradeoff is worth it.
LostYankeeinexile
Because we need ace level pitching. Andujar is expendable because of DJ and Urshela… German is great but not an ace. Potentially could he be? Maybe… but with the team constructed to win now … you don’t have the luxury of time to find out. Plus his trade value is pretty high right now. As for Boyd not being a fluke… his advanced projections are good, but his history isn’t. Kinda washes it out in my mind. He’s much like German still proving he can maintain over large sample sizes.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I agree with you that time is of the essence but I’d much rather see the Yankees move low-level, high-ish ceiling prospects for a guy like Boyd. I like Andujar’s bat too much (DH future?) and German’s potential for peanut cost.
LostYankeeinexile
Oh I completely agree… but I’m just saying I’m not sure Boyd is what we need or who we should be targeting. If the Nats make Scherzer available Is go all in, but not for Boyd or Bumgarner or Wheeler etc. Unfortunately that will be the asking price for those type of pitchers. Andujars youth and bat but lack of defense is the same issue with Frazier minus the attitude. With Stanton taking primary DH for the foreseeable future…and Urshela and DJ and Voit playing as well as they are… Andujar becomes expendable. He probably won’t go until next season when his shoulder is proven .. but he doesn’t have a future in the Yankees if Urshela keeps up with his bat. Too many ground ball pitchers between the starters and pen. Makes his defense a liability.
MinorLeagueFan
X!
LostYankeeinexile
Ok seriously who is X?? You’re the Third guy to say I’m him. This is the only name I’ve ever used here guys sorry.
robluca21
After 3 months of urshela hitting above league average for the first time in his career makes andujar expendable? Lol
LostYankeeinexile
No but Gleyber at 2nd Didi back at SS Voit and EE at 1st and Urshela hitting well with DJ platooning DOES make Andujar expendable… big picture whole team kinda thing. Tell me is Andujar a better all around player than DJ? Is his defense better than Urshela ? …. like So said expendable
yankees2016rebuild
I hope he trades for someone other than the names mentioned on this article they are all going to cost too much for guys that are overrated or their best years are behind them. We need the pitching version of the voit trade not another Kevin brown trade.
YankeesBleacherCreature
As much as I love CC Sabathia, I never thought his low-ish ERA with an inflated xFIP was sustainable towards the beginning of the season. He was lucky to have given up homeruns with few men on base. His xFIP nows sits at 5.03 and I don’t think that’s going to move downwards. It’s unpopular but he should be moved to the bullpen. Another starter is needed.
kahnkobra
he’s over weight and has a bum knee
YankeesBleacherCreature
That has never stopped him from building his potential HOF career resume. The point is he’s not very good right now for a team vying for a WS crown.
luckyh
He is aging and has wilted as the year grinds on. He has been a great pitcher for the Yanks, no question, but I think he played one year too long. He is going to literally limp to the finish line. He cannot be depended on to give them anything in October. Anything he does is gravy, but I wouldn’t count on anything.
jonscriff
Big dice roll here but i don’t think they need a starting pitcher. They need consistency from their current starting pitchers. Sevy, Tanaka and Paxton along with Happ and Sabthia are great plus having German , Monty , and Lasagna are great. Don’t sleep on monty he was a great pitcher before TJS
chippahawk
“Wtf is this mom!? I strictly said Fruit loops w/ 1% milk; not oatmeal, Gtfoh!” Said every spoiled Yankees fan ever…
LostYankeeinexile
Haters gonna hate. Sounds like jealousy.
Sir Becks
They will try to trade for Trevor Bauer if Indians like the offer. Not much else is out there, last year they get Happ because his numbers against Sox. This year will be Bauer who has good numbers against best Astros players and is in war with them.
Other then that i don’t see it , unless Cash can fleece someone. The only other player besides Bauer is Bumgarner, and the question is what Giants wants for Bum and that’s that. Who cares what numbers he has this year, he is to be traded for postseason and i have no doubt that Bumgarner will delivered.
He’s a warriror
LostYankeeinexile
Bumgarner is having a down year and is in the downhill side of his career. Paying big money for a name especially considering he’s made that name on a pitcher friendly park and not a short porch in Yankee stadium doesn’t sound like a smart move to me. Not taking away from what he’s done… but he’s better suited for another team. Love what he’s done in the Postseason but not giving up much for him and SF would want an overpay haul
robluca21
Bauer to the yanks for some offense makes too much sense.
The Indians have one of the worst offenses in baseball. Fraizer and florial would be the headliners. I could see wade and 2 more pieces going the Indians way too
But for bauer that might not even be enough
LostYankeeinexile
Wow… I mean I know pitching is at a premium but Frazier AND Florial AND Wade and more? Bauer is good but that’s a Scherzer haul not so much a Bauer. A choice of Frazier, Estrada, or German … with Wade and a lottery ticket AA ball type is closer to market value… but I don’t think Cleveland wants Frazier back.
Yep it is
Wow another Yankees pitching article. As the 10 already this week weren’t enough. Pure Trash
Gwynning's Anal Lover
They can get Archer for a rag of boogers.
fitsiqis65
so long as it is not the lance lynn jaime garcia varieties…….
Its been a long long time ago since Cash pulled off a mid season trade for a SP that mattered. He usually refuses to pay the off season prices and then the mid year prices sky rocket even further.
The focus should be on October not the summer
Nixon's Back!
He got James Paxton in the off-season, that’s as good or better than anyone he could get at any point without a ridiculous overpay.
Cashman and his team have pulled off some of the very best trades in recent baseball history, finding enormous excess value at very low costs – Aaron Hicks, Didi, Luke Voit, and Chad Green all very quickly ended up in critical roles for the Yankees and have all achieved what I think we can all agree is a significant amount of success.
Cashman’s history of excellent trades has earned him the benefit of the doubt in my eyes,
Ketch
Lance Lynn is currently second in MLB with 3.2 fWAR.
fitsiqis65
ketch- you are so right. he was awesome last year for the yanks and really made a difference. not
Nixon- i don’t disagree with you on those trades he won. However, its the moves he refused to make that costs this team in October. They need an ace. not an inconsistent pair of aces in tanak and pax. A legit ace, the way sale, verlander, and scherzer are. the names you mention above are good pieces and good deals. However, this article correctly points out the flaw in the team which is clearly SP.,
LostYankeeinexile
geeson .. you make good points but there’s an assumption in your argument that there are Legitimate Aces available. In the past 2-3 years there has been a drought of ace level talent … or there has been asking prices that would mortgage the Yankees growing core of young players just as they’re starting to gel. Gerrit Cole was probably the top pitcher in that time span as a FA and Cashman offered all he could for him. Pirates decided on the Astros package. Who is an available ace that was attainable via trade?
fitsiqis65
I’ve argued for a while that cash’s is undermined by his failures to develop and acquire legit front line starters who are studs. Pax/tanaka/seve have not yet proven that they are. Had he signed scherzer….had he traded for sale, had he acquired verlander, had he signed price, had he traded for cole (he didn’t want to pay the price), and even signed crobin as opposed to happ….we’d be in much much better shape
He consistently doesn’t want to pay the price and so the team is built to get to October. Its a disservice to the sticks and pen that he doesn’t finish it off the way the cubs, stros and sox did.
So…as a result he spends a mini fortune on the pen only to see that overwhelmed by July. Than he trades valuable assets for extra pen arms to overcompensate/double down is an egregious error.
All this team needs is one ace…..
LostYankeeinexile
Ok I’m seeing what your saying and I agree the team needs an ace, but we didn’t have the prospects for Cole or Sale. Verlander no one reasonably expected to have such a renaissance and Corbin was an albatross contract for not even close to Ace quality. Scherzer when he was a FA was made a very competitive offer as well but chose the Nats who were willing to spend bundles at the time. You can’t force him to take your offer. So I ask again … who could the Yankees have gotten that was an ace? There wasn’t one out there that was attainable.
fitsiqis65
we are in agreement, except i would argue it is in Cash. For example we had the prospects for cole and/or sale but Cash didn’t want to pay that price.
Re; Corbin- its insane what he got, but that is what good pitching costs. Cash was comfortable giving a far inferior pitcher 17 mil a year for his age 36, 37, and 38 years, but not 23 mil to a guy who in his last year will be 35? That’s the cost of pitching.
verlander- That is Cashman’s job. Houston was willing to gamble and that gamble gave them a WS. If the Yanks had gambled, they would have beaten Houston.
You see-this is my beef with Cash. When it comes to SP I quote frank costanza “you don’t know what the hell you’re doing”
As for today…. He will have to overpay for a stroman (another 3 #guy), baum (who may be done) etc…..its not good and all it is is a risk that didn’t need to be taken
Its just his job and he hasn’t done it.
Bruin1012
At the time of the Sale transaction the Red Sox had the best farm in baseball. They wanted Sale and put together an offer that no team was going to beat at the time. Unless they wanted to trade young key core pieces that the White Sox would of wanted. DD was not going to be denied Sale.
LostYankeeinexile
Gotta disagree with you on some points. We didn’t have the prospects for Sale nor Cole. Chicago got the #1 prospect in baseball and the Yankees haven’t had a farm that good in a long long while. We didn’t have the prospects to get Cole either Houston made the better offer. It wasn’t out of unwillingness per se it was the best deal Cashman could make. In the free agent market I can see your point more clearly. How much is Cashman’s fault and how much is the Steinbrenner’s not wanting to dole out the dollars is a factor too. Happ vs Corbin .. time will tell in that deal. Verlander … well there was 28 other GMs that didn’t see him reviving his career either. I think it’s a lofty expectation you’re putting on Cashman alone. He’s only human and constrained by the ownership as well. Look at what he HAS been able to do. Paxton, Stanton, Encarnacion, Voit, Urshela, DJ, Gleyber, Hicks, German and that’s only in the last 2-3 years! I think saying he doesn’t know what he’s doing is incredibly inaccurate. I think saying he’s doing as much as he can is closer to the truth.
fitsiqis65
appreciate the back and forth and respect the dialogue. we will just agree to disagree, but both root for the Yanks!
Let’s Go Yankees!
LostYankeeinexile
Absolutely and thank you as well. 28 here we come!
thefenwayfaithful 2
You have to remember that the Yankees were projecting 2020 for their fast rebuild to come to fruition. Guys performing above expectations and the opportunities to acquire Paxton and Stanton expedited that timeline as did guys getting more service time then expected earlier then expected. These are all good things, but this is a team that was financially planning for a 2019 big free agent splash aka Bryce Harper (they got Stanton just months earlier, so that got called off) and a 2020 breakout year. Their incredible performance was great to see but the best is yet to come. Cashman is a master of timing and this comes from a bitter rival to the north.
I’d ease up on the guy who rebuilt a franchise from farm to pro overnight.
Let me rephrase that, rebuilt the Yankees in the tough market of New York overnight and found guys not just with the right skills, but the right mindset to thrive in New York.
thegreatcerealfamine
I’ve set back and read over the last few weeks so many trade proposals for pitching on here, and some stand out more than others of course. What Yankees fans would offer, and what non Yankees fans feel they should offer. There’s the high value being placed on Clint Frazier by Yankees fans most of the time he’s being used in these proposals for one-for-one swaps of Bauer, Scherzer, Thor, Stroman, and Wheeler. There’s also the Yankees fans refusing to part with Frazier at all for various reasons, and lowball offers with other players to get a top pitcher.
Scherzer, if available would be a no brainer for a World Series run, but the National are going toe want a Sale haul plus of which the Yankees don’t have. Bauer, again if available is younger than Scherzer but way, way more inconsistent. The Mets have a track record of not doing business with the Yankees so Wheeler and Thor can be written off. That leaves Stroman he probably won’t cost Frazier, but he’s not the intimidator that Scherzer would be.
In all this contenders with superior minor league farms to the Yankees could be looking for the same upgrade. I really don’t want the Yankees to acquire Bauer, because I’d love Cole as a FA this winter, and their relationship problems are well documented. I’d be satisfied with Stroman, and a trade with the Reds for Amir Garret. Stroman does give them a starter with tremendous moxie, and CC would be a great mentor. Garret gives them a LH out of the pen that can make spot opening starts, and probably just cost a couple of lower pitching prospects.
dimelotitony
Yankees should stay away from N.L. pitching with the exception of Max it is either Trevor Bauer or Stroman will be their best fits and both Cleveland and Toronto need Outfield Help. Bauer reminds me of a cocky Roger Clemens whereas Stroman can be the fiery type in the mode of David Cone when he came over to the Yankees.
Yankees can’t bank on Sevy,C.C.,Montgomery too many flags with them and include Paxton & Tanaka and the inexperience of Domingo and limits innings they need to go after an American League pitcher that won’t be intimidated by the bright lights of NYC. Yankees have gotten all they could from their backups but in order to win the division and rid of the pesky Rays and fend off the Red Sox it will take a semi-haul for those two pitchers mentioned above as for Max too much money still owed and the haul will be even greater. With these backups performing well above the back of their baseball cards it does give the Yankees more flexibility in trades even right now Maybin can be a trade asset or the Yankees can decide to keep 5 outfielders and push Gardner to the bench where he belongs and you now have two guys with speed coming off the bench.
thefenwayfaithful 2
Take a look at Stromans xFIP and contact rates. I think pitching at Yankees Stadium with that short porch and guys going the other way on him 25% of the time that HR/FB ratio is going to soar. This is not a guy who misses bats or has a good out pitch.
I’d take a hard pass on Stroman. If you’re going to give up something for the rental, Bauer is your man if it’s A or B. The stuff, the swing and miss, it’s more likely to play out well at Yankees Stadium.
Doug
Frazier, Loaisiga and Estrada for Trevor Bauer
thefenwayfaithful 2
Two problems. 1 Yankees are giving too much, I feel. It’s a rental and a recently emergent ace. Not someone like Scherzer who has been that guy year in and year out. 2 I doubt the Indians want Frazier. But Loisiga Estrada salary relief and a PTBNL should get it done if there’s no higher offer on the table. I think anything beyond that other then a throw in isn’t worth it.
Louiebeans
With Stanton coming back and Judge not to far behind. It’s time to DFA Brett Garbage. Maybin is raking.
Yankees it’s been way past it’s time to walk away from Brett Garbage. No need to DFA Maybin. I’m sorry but it’s time Gardner either retires now or DFA him.
yankee766766
Trevor Bauer. Seemingly the right temperament for NY. Under team control thru 2020. He misses bats and teams bat .200 against him.. That is who I want….and move Clint Frazier for him…..and a lesser known guy in the system
LostYankeeinexile
Not sure if Cleveland wants Frazier back. You make good market value … but the Indians us Frazier in the Andrew Miller deal. They gave him up once as an expendable piece so they may have other plans for their outfield or DJ spots.
yankee766766
I hear you but times change as do needs. How and why the got Frazier has nothing to do with what is on the table right now. ..due to what is needed now. The makeup of the team is different now Just my opinion
robbie71
Tigers have a pretty good pitcher in boyd if yanks can meet the high asking price.Green is available also.maybe theres a package deal somewhere in there.
the guru
agreed. Greene is the MLB leader in saves and has a era below 1. Could pitch him in high leverage situations. Boyd is 4th best war of sp this year. Hes better year than greinke, degrom, sale, strasburg, cole, giolito etc. He is on pace for 7 war and he has 3 years of control..
The yankees are not going to get the MLB save leader and the best pitcher this year for Frazier, and Florial. Florial hasn’t been healthy in 3 years and fraziers clock started 2 years ago. If you combine greene and boyd in package deal, the return would be something like Florial, Loasigia, Frazier, Andujar. Where you get 2 prospects, and 1 flyer in andujar health, and frazier whose clock started 2 years ago.