Though the fading Mets axed a pair of pitching coaches yesterday, reports indicate that skipper Mickey Callaway is likely to remain at the helm through season’s end. Mike Puma of the New York Post said yesterday that Callaway is considered safe barring a full-blown devolution of the season, while Andy Martino of SNY.tv writes much the same today.
It wasn’t long ago that Callaway was said to be on the hot seat. But GM Brodie Van Wagenen came in with a vote of confidence and hasn’t backed down publicly since in his support for the skipper. Puma writes that COO Jeff Wilpon “remains [Callaway’s] strongest backer in the organization.” Since Wilpon writes the checks, there won’t be a change at the helm of the dugout unless he says so.
Things certainly haven’t improved since they last came to a head in mid-May. The club has hovered at .500 ball since, but that hasn’t helped jump-start a move in the standings. The Mets sit five games under the mean and nine games back of the Braves. They were just passed by a Nationals team that dug a deeper hole but has been on a nice run of late.
None of that is terribly encouraging. The club remains in need of some kind of jolt — or just better, more consistent across-the-board play. But it seems the Mets’ top brass has decided that canning Callaway isn’t likely to spur improvement. Van Wagenen issued another public vote of confidence in the wake of the pitching coach change, saying that Callaway “has my full-blown confidence.”
There’s certainly an argument to be made that a managerial change isn’t the right way to go, though one could’ve said the same of the interim step of swapping out coaches. And it’s frankly not clear what can be done at the moment. As Marc Carig of The Athletic wrote this morning (subscription link), the “brunt of th[e] failure rests on the shoulders of Van Wagenen.” The new GM’s early moves haven’t worked out as hoped; now, he’ll have to deal with a complicated roster situation.
twinsfan368
Do it Mets do it
Down with OBP
Who could have envisioned hiring someone with no GM experience would be disastrous?
fits65
Where did all of the Mets Brody fans go? I’m referring to the ones who over the winter that were over the top in buying into his mojo with no boundaries. These are the super sensitive types predicting a WS victory that slammed everyone else. Have they stopped posting? Are they still paying $$$ for tickets?
CrewBrew
just here waiting for mets2020 to comment.
TheTrotsky
Lol yeah I’m still laughing about his “Yankees should take a page from the Mets playbook” comment he made a few days ago.
CrewBrew
Not a fan of either NY teams but yeah one team in New York is a dumpster fire and the other is pretty darn good lol
metnoxious
They’re not letting him go because of $$$. Jeff’s tuition is due and Fred can’t pay two managers.
thorshair
Wilpons going to Wilpon
goldenmisfit
Here is the situation with the New York Mets when the general manager said he felt they were the favorite to win the National League east anyone who did not fall on the floor laughing his sterically knows nothing about baseball. This team has so many issues I would not know where to start. Their corporate structure is so flawed it borderlines the criminally insane when you say your manager is safe but you fire your pitching coach who has multiple world series rings The only solace you can take is they said he was safe until the end of the season so if you are a Mets fan and if you are my heart goes out to you but if UR you can hope they will make a managerial change at the end of the season this guy is a very good pitching coach but obviously not a good manager.
fits65
Worse than that is the mere fact that the staff and players work for simple minds that despite their long tenure still know very little about hiring leadership.
A GM that has zero experience except in fast talking GM’s and owners into signing his players at inflated contracts is foolish. Just watching his opening months of interviews you could tell that he was giving the Wilpon’s what they wanted to hear, regardless of the facts.
This team should have been broken into pieces last fall and instead got patched up with BAD trades for flawed and over the hill players.
BrodiesHairisGreezy!
All too predictable. The Wontpons will not eat more than one-year in any contract. Because the Cheap Ba$tard$ are too cheap to eat Mickey’s 1.2 million owed for the remainder of this year and next we will be stuck with this floundering team. In fairness to Calloway, Brodie got him just enough for this team to be just mediocre (The Wontpons will NEVER dare to pay for Great) and Mickey has more-or-less delivered what they gave him.. If these CLASSLESS losers would wake up, they would spend for a legitimate Manager (Girardi?) and pay for first-class talent in the BP and they would have a decent chance at competing with a first-class organization like the Braves. However the thought of paying up makes Fred Wontpon soil his Diaper.
sheff86
Just sign him to the extension already.
vtadave
I wonder what a “full-blown devolution” looks like. Come on Mets, you can do it!
Gomez Toth
Devolution? We are Devo, D-E-V-O.
Perhaps the Mets should start wearing flower pot helmets.
mets1536
lfrient1
Mickey was considered a pitching guru when he coached the Tribe’s hurlers. I am sure that his present situation is very stressful and I wish everything good to a good man.
mcjjr19
Injuries haven’t helped the situation, my major “why” was resigning GasCan Familia. One would have thought that Diaz was a no-brained. I initially didn’t like the Cano deal, but he’s a veteran who is good for the younger guys. I hope they can turn it around, GD Mets fans deserve better.
fits65
Is Cano good for the younger players when he doesn’t run hard to first or waves his glove as a ground ball goes past him??
Koamalu
The owners and the GM are the problem, not the pitching coach or the manager.
This piece from a Mets blog says it perfectly –
“Cano declined at 36 and without steroids. Surprise, surprise. No one saw that one coming.
Lagares is terrible after missing most of the past 3 seasons. Surprise, Surprise. No one saw that one coming.
Syndergaard is on the IL/DL again. Surprise, Surprise. No one saw that one coming.
Diaz is back around his career averages again after one great season. Surprise, surprise. No one saw that one coming.
The Mets are in the top 5 in player days on the IL/DL for the 5th straight season. Surprise, surprise. No one saw that one coming.
The Mets are in 4th place and their record is falling. Why am I not surprised?”
iplay_in_traffic
Not today maybe.
Shrutefarm
Familia has been terrible. Diaz below his normal numbers. I don’t know how much of that is the manager’s fault. If those two guys perform near their means, how much further up in the standings would the Mets be? They seemed like a solid team when facing the Dodgers in LA except for that horrid BP.
paulkauffmann
I agree 110% people never want to look at what’s truly going on it’s inconsistent play period and one primary problem that’s the bullpen and can’t blame management or anyone for down years most of our relievers are proven winners maybe just maybe pitching coach changes will make all the difference LGM
fits65
The chances of those changes making all the difference are as good as you putting on a space helmet and finding yourself on the next shuttle launch to the moon.
jvent
The Mets will continue to be what they are mediocre Until these crappy owners sell this team. Start trading away players too, without improving this team their not making the playoffs.
Dat boi
My sources tell me Joe Girardi has been in meetings with upper management and its basically a done deal and will be announced soon……WOW
goldenmisfit
Your sources are obvious delusional crack addicts. I think anybody with any insight into baseball pretty much know that Joe Girardi will end up being the manager of the Chicago Cubs next season.
callingoutdummies247
Yeah the Cubs are going to get rid of the manager who ended a 100 year old drought three seasons ago…. you must be sucking back on a few cold ones.. or are you Mike Yank?
fits65
You should read the latest copy of Baseball for Dummies magazine. The prediction is pretty clear that if the Cubs don’t win again, Theo will NOT renew their manager.
So as opposed to being a no it all you can probably learn why ownership was so upset at their pathetic collapse at the end of the season and question if he has lost his magical touch.
BTW-negative comments about other posters is in violation of the rules on this site. Perhaps you can read up on that as well.
Cheers!
DTI812
Where have you gone Joe Pignatano?
xSpecBx
They should have went for the rebuild last year. They should have traded DeGrom to rebuild the farm, selling high and getting a haul, not traded for cano and kept their prospects and looked to trade syndegaard this year if he pitched well. Instead they doubled down and ensured they will be a middling franchise for the foreseeable future. Woof
fits65
Typically Mets, wouldn’t you agree?
lapmando
Waaal-ly, Waaal-ly, Waaal-ly…..everybody all together…Wally, Wally, Wally….
Want to light a fire…Wally Blackman is the man!!!
paulkauffmann
Sorry but I’m one who thought the early moves were good ones To date no it hasn’t worked but then again we have gotten glimpses of both great pitching and the lineup we thought we had Injury’s have hurt some but mainly inconsistent play I as a Met fan for many many years will defend and speak up for my team I love the Mets cause I love the Mets if I needed a team that was more robotic winner I would have been a Yankee fan a long time ago ! So win or lose you’ll find me watching the games and cheering my Met’s Good Day fellow Met Fans
fits65
The Wilpon’s thank you for donating to their Wishful Dodger memorabilia collection. Whether you are naive enough to spend money for tickets to see a mediocre team, or watch SNY to help their anemic viewership there’s not much else you can do as the Mets play helpless baseball.
PS-winning is not as robotic as losing is day in and day out, season after season.
txman22
After Sunday’s fiasco, Callaway said Lugo made only 1 bad pitch & Lugo said he made only 2 good pitches out of 45. Mickeys clueless & he’s a former pitching coach. Why can’t he see what everyone else can. He just speeded up his exit.
imissjoebuzas
Na na na nah,
na na na nah,
hey hey hey
goodbye!
fits65
What happened to the squeaky Mets fans that used to post here. You know, the nasty indignant ones whose low baseball intelligence matches their dilution from reality?
I bet they have been wearing their green jets helmets these past few weeks as they have abandoned the Flushing ferry.