Few teams have received worse second base production than the Padres, for whom Ian Kinsler, Luis Urias and Greg Garcia have combined for minus-0.7 fWAR and a dismal .144/.252/.237 line in 111 plate appearances. Now, the Padres find themselves waiting for someone to “take hold of” the job there, manager Andy Green said Saturday (via Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune). Kinsler has had the most opportunities (66 PA), but while he’s a longtime quality starter at the keystone, he has been a detriment to the Padres’ on-field efforts in the first season of a two-year, $8MM contract. Urias, a high-end prospect, may be the Padres’ long-term solution at the position. The 21-year-old has only come to the plate 28 times this season, though, leaving Acee to wonder if the Padres will send him back to the minors for more reps. However, Green believes Urias has gotten “consistent enough” playing time in the bigs this year.
Elsewhere around the division…
- Giants manager Bruce Bochy says they expect Mark Melancon to close games at some point this season, per Kerry Crowley of The Mercury News. Melancon has been about as good as can be so far this year, scattering seven hits across ten scoreless innings. The 34-year-old has also finished five games for the Giants, though none were save opportunities. He’s no stranger to the ninth inning, having saved 182 games in his career, including a league-leading 51 for the Pirates in 2015. Melancon followed up that campaign by saving 47 games for the Pirates and Nationals before cashing in on his current four-year, $62MM deal, of which he will have one year and $14MM remaining after this season. The bullpen has been an area of strength for the 8-14 Giants, with lefty Will Smith the nominal ninth-inning anchor. Given the number of horror-show bullpens around the league right now, there’s likely to be trade interest in one or more of San Francisco’s high-performing relievers at some point this season. Melancon figures to stick around, however, as his deal is more cumbersome than the contracts belonging to Smith, Tony Watson, Nick Vincent, Sam Dyson et al.
- If the Giants do part with any of those veterans, it could open up a spot for Triple-A righty Ray Black. For now, however, the team has shut down Black for seven to 10 days on account of a right pronator strain, Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle was among those to tweet. It’s troubling news in light of Black’s injury-checkered past, and it continues a rough April for the flamethrowing 28-year-old. After posting a 3.16 ERA with 16.13 K/9 and 2.81 BB/9 in 25 2/3 innings at the Triple-A level last year, Black has pitched to a 6.43 ERA with 9.0 K/9 and 7.71 BB/9 in seven frames this season. He also had trouble preventing runs in a 23 1/3-inning major league debut in 2018, when he recorded a 6.17 ERA, though he did manage 12.73 K/9 against 3.86 BB/9.
- The Diamondbacks plan to utilize just-acquired catcher Blake Swihart in the outfield corners on occasion, according to manager Torey Lovullo (via Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic). Lovullo added that the Diamondbacks will use the 27-year-old Swihart there to spell veterans Adam Jones and David Peralta, both of whom are in their 30s. The outfield’s not foreign to Swihart, who played 48 games there as a member of the Red Sox, as Piecoro notes. While it’s rare for any catcher to line up in the grass, Lovullo says Swihart is “a pretty special athlete.”
Xavier Blaine
Padres will slowly find themselves back to fourth place in that division just in front of the Giants.
bencole
I think they’re better than the DBacks, but otherwise I agree
maxbaseball09
Andy Green is throwing off the chemistry of this team like he does every year, experimenting with a different lineup every single day. There’s no consistency, continuity, or rhythm with the players and you can see it on the field. Musical chairs with the lineup is getting old Andy. Good managers let their players stick to their spots and ride it out.
mattmoore452
Nothing would turn me on more than seeing Andy Green blasted into the sun. He is clueless.
davidcoonce74
Uh, seriously? You can disagree with a manager’s decisions without wishing him dead.
bleacherbum
#Padres proposal:
Acquire Johnathan Villar from the Orioles, attach one of Bundy or Cashner to him in order to be able to send Kinsler plus prospects the other way. The money is almost identically owed to Kinsler/Cashner, the Pads would have to pay for Villar basically- Baez?
For the Orioles, Richie Martin slides to SS, Kinsler plays 2nd. The Padres can either utilize Cashner as an innings eater/mentor to Paddack, or out of the Pen to help
(Wisler, Warren in long relief). Villar bats lead off and plays everywhere while Urias floats around the INF or goes to El Paso?
Can’t get much for an aging 2nd baseman struggling to hit. Maybe Baltimore embraces the ability he can turn it around in the AL again and be a mentor to Martin w/the notion that it rids them of what’s left of Cashner plus the prospect capitol, possibly Michel Baez Padres #7 prospect for Villar?
lowtalker1
No
Christopher_Oriole
No. If that’s the offer. No.
TreyMancini
No.
Yankeepride88
Not gonna happen
ReverieDays
Richie Martin is already the Orioles SS. Do you follow baseball much? Your entire post comes off like you don’t.
bencole
Why would the rebuilding O’s want Kinsler? And why would they give up a pitcher, it’s their biggest weakness? Also, Bundy has positive trade value. So attaching him would make the trade more expensive for San Diego. Cashner wouldn’t, though. And Baez is probably enough for Villar.
But how does your trade make the Orioles better???
lowtalker1
You miss the bigger issue
Why the heck would the padres trade for trashner
bencole
He’s saying Cashner would have to be taken by SD to offset the money. Cashner has negative value certainly, but dude is saying that’s why he’s in the trade
Grizalt
To add a player they want without giving up their own prospects in the trade, similar to what they did with Bryan Mitchell.
realgone2
Yeah agreed with others. Not a good deal.
lowtalker1
Maybe if green would stop running kinsler out there for days straight and then one day of urias… if only urias could get some consistent at bats
its_happening
Yep. Play the kid.
maxbaseball09
Andy Green has no idea what he’s doing.
He overthinks drinking a glass of water.
If the lineup if winning you games, leave it the same, you id iot
ReverieDays
Have you considered that the Padres just aren’t very good and that’s why they eventually end up losing more than winning?
Grizalt
“However, Green believes Urias has gotten ‘consistent enough’ playing time in the bigs this year.”
What game are you watching Opie?
DarkSide830
as consistent as is deserved for a hitter hitting under .100
Grizalt
Luis needs to be playing every day. At what level is for you to decide.
gmenfan
By August 1st, the Giants bullpen is going to look striking similar to the River Cats bullpen in June.
snotrocket
It’s almost funny how bad the Giants offense is. It seems like it would be hard to everyone to all suck as bad as they do all at once, but somehow they are making it happen.
sacball
Posey’s moving and hitting like he’s 44 years old
qturner
It is eerie. Current Giant team is almost to gross to watch. Every other teams pitchers look like Cy Young. The very opposite of 2010, 2012 and 14. Everything went south at the All Star Break in 2016. If I recall, SF was in first place. Haven’t been within sniffing distance sense. Thankfully, my contract is unaffected
nutznboltz
Padres have the most overrated farm system in baseball. Don’t know why nobody sees that.
Juicemane 2019
Do you ask yourself that question often in everyday life? Why you’re the only one?
Grizalt
Most of their best guys ain’t even up yet. And Fernando Tatis is very much delivering on the hype.
nutznboltz
I don’t know padresfan;Urias,Mejia,renfroe we’re rated at the very top of baseball prospects.
Grizalt
All the three guys you mentioned need is consistent PT.
SFGiants74
Yeah. A guy that is reduced to critizing players on MLBTraderRumors should be believed. If you are as skilled at player evaluation as you state, you wouldn’t bother with this site.
hiflew
Not necessarily. He might be lacking in confidence in real life situations. He might have a career that he prefers to scouting. He might not like the idea of constant travel associated with a pro sports career.
I’m not saying any of these things are true about this particular person, but they are all possible. Don’t ever be fooled into believing the best people for any job are the ones actually doing it. The odds of that happening are astronomical in most cases.
nutznboltz
Vince, it doesn’t take skill to see the obvious.
nutznboltz
How come you didn’t reply this way to all the guys berating Green? This is an opinion board no more no less. Does putting people down for their opinions make you feel better about yourself?
csspackler
Nobody sees it because you’re wrong.
aussiegiants53
What do the Giants have to send to the Braves to get Christian Pache? Smith and Watson? Or maybe Smith, Watson and Dyson? Pache would suit Oracle park defensively, just not sure the Braves will give him up
WAH1447
He is almost untouchable, he will be in center next by the end of the season. If they sent Bumgardner,Smith, and ate half of the salary Melancon is owed then I can see there being a conversation
bencole
None of this is close. No combination of any Giants relievers will get anyone’s top 50 prospect.
stephaniepetagno
The Washington Nationals say hi!
Moronta, Smith, Watson and even Dyson would all improve their bullpen. I think Smith particularly gets you a heck of a lot in return in this day and age.
Jean Matrac
“No combination of any Giants relievers will get anyone’s top 50 prospect.”
History says you’re wrong. If 2 months of Chapman get you Gleyber Torres, 2 months of Will Smith get at least a top 50, and probably more.
You also don’t seem to understand the concept of supply and demand. There are more teams in contention needing bullpen help than there are good relievers available. It’s a sellers market.
You will no doubt criticize any trade where they get full value as an overpay, but I think you’ll be surprised at what the Giants are going to get for these guys.
SFGiants74
You assume the Giants would want him. His AAA stats aren’t that impressive.
aussiegiants53
Some varying opinions there haha! Well send some SP prospects our way for our ace relievers, let’s talk
realgone2
Braves aren’t dealing Pache .
nutznboltz
You guys crack me up. Give me one person besides Tatís that has shown they deserve to play every day. Of course they’re not gonna sit Machado. Everybody else has stunk it up. I’m no Green fan but what’s he supposed to do?
nutznboltz
Play Kinsler/Urias they both have stunk. Play Hedges/Mejia they both have stunk. All the outfielders stink. What is he supposed to do?
Grizalt
Least Austin Hedges is an A++ defensive catcher. And hard for Mejia to get into a groove with the type of PT he has been getting.
bencole
Paddack
SFGiants74
Give us one reason why we should consider your player evaluation. Your accuracy is none existant. Until you reveal your full name and resume. You are just guy that is lacking…
nutznboltz
I’m just a guy giving his opinion on a chat board just like everyone else on here. The only difference between you and me is that I don’t ridicule people for having a different opinion than I do.
davidcoonce74
Margot has played terrific defense in center, and has at least hit okay. He’s never going to walk much or utilize his speed effectively, but he has the potential to at least be the NL version of JBJ. Renfroe is at least hitting homers and playing pretty good defense in right.
And again, it’s 20 games. This is a team projected to win about 75 games. That’s probably still the ceiling.
nutznboltz
David I have to disagree on Margot. Going back to him coming up two Years ago, I have seen him misread many balls and not take control in the outfield like a center fielder is supposed to. A lot of miscommunication out there. Renfroe has s great arm but his fielding isn’t very good at all. Jim
nutznboltz
Supposed to be JMO not Jim.
davidcoonce74
I do think the Kinsler signing was puzzling. He’s not really a utility guy because he doesn’t have the arm for third or short (or the outfield) and the Padres have like four second basemen already on the 40-man. Plus, Kinsler just has never been much of a hitter – his career 270/338/441 line, in hitter’s parks, isn’t great. He has a utility profile without the utility. I would be surprised if he lasts the season. Just play Urias and be done with it – there’s every indication that he will eventually hit, but not playing is having a detrimental effect on his development. This isn’t a playoff-contending team. This is a team that should be trying to develop its young players.