April 23: ESPN’s Jeff Passan tweets some encouraging news following Burdi’s MRI. While the imaging did reveal strains in the right-hander’s biceps tendon and flexor mass, there’s no break or complete tear of anything in Burdi’s arm. He’ll be sidelined for an indefinite period of time, but it seems that he may have avoided the need for another surgery.
April 22: Pirates reliever Nick Burdi was removed from his appearance tonight after suffering an apparent arm injury. After throwing a pitch, he immediately fell to the mound and grabbed his biceps in obvious pain.
There’s no indication as of yet as to the seriousness of the injury, but the clubhouse reaction left no more cause for optimism than did the scene that unfolded on the field. As MLB.com’s Adam Berry reports (Twitter links), Burdi’s teammates described the situation as “heartbreaking” and “heart-wrenching” to watch.
For now, the organization has said only that the 26-year-old is dealing with pain in the elbow/biceps area. The club’s director of sports medicine, Todd Tomczyk, added that he and his staff are still “gathering information” to make a “definitive diagnosis.”
When he went down this evening, Burdi was in the midst of a brutal outing. But he had also shown immense promise in his first ten appearances of the season, compiling an outlandish 17:2 K/BB ratio in 8 1/3 innings with a 20.1% swinging-strike rate. With a 97+ mph fastball paired with a vicious slider, Burdi has the tools of a potential late-inning stalwart.
The talent, though, has never really been in question. Burdi was plucked in the second round of the 2014 draft; his brother, Zack Burdi, went in the late first round two years later. Both were expected to move quickly into MLB bullpens, but unfortunately instead shared overlapping Tommy John rehab stints.
When the Twins left (Nick) Burdi unprotected in the 2017 Rule 5 draft, the Pirates pounced. They shipped international money to the Phillies, who used their position with the third overall selection to make the selection. Burdi spent much of 2018 rehabbing before briefly ascending to the majors late last year.
The Bucs still haven’t had Burdi on the active roster long enough to secure his rights permanently. He’s at 56 days of active service, 34 shy of the 90-day minimum. If this injury proves to require a lengthy absence, the Pirates can simply shift Burdi to the 60-day injured list, though roster pressures would nevertheless mount in the offseason. In that case, Burdi will still have accrued 2 full seasons of MLB service by the end of the 2019 campaign, though hardly in the manner he’d have hoped.
bjupton100
Tough break.
nsmith12641
Man I love Nick Burdi. I always have ever sinc ehe got drafted. It’s too bad he’s had so many injuries derail his career. He finally looked like he was going to break out this year. Really hope this turns out to look worse than it really is. Good luck to Nick on his recovery.
zpgreen
Looked like he tore his bicep watching it live and seeing how he was gripping it with his other hand. Brutal look no matter the injury.
coldbeer
Please correct me if I’m wrong…he’s eligible to be drafted in the rule 5, hurt, and is placed on the 60 day DL afterwards by the eventual claiming team (trade in this case) thus giving said team the ability to replace him and power to retain his rights moving forward until he gains free agent status…?! Is this correct?
spinach
I think if he doesn’t spend a certain number of days on the 25-man (rather than the 60-day) this year (don’t know the number but guessing he won’t) then I believe they have to have him on the 25-man a certain number of days next year before optioning him to retain his rights.
Robertowannabe
Has to be on the 25 a total of 90 days. Had 30 at the end of last season and needed 60 more this season to start. As the article said he still needs 34 to make the 90 days after coming off of the 60:days
ohioplayers
Can they activate him off the DL at the end of August prior to rosters expanding and keep him on the active roster for the minimum number of days at the end of the season to hold his rights without hurting their chances to be competitive?
Robertowannabe
Considering they brought him up last year, I would say yes. Sounds like this is something that may heal with some rest and he may be able to come back sooner than that. Time will tell.
DarkSide830
jeez…this guy is the epitome of glass cannon…some truely unfortunate injury history.
its_happening
These injuries will continue, unfortunately. MLB is not prepared to slow down this apparent epidemic. Pitchers continue to go down to various injuries and nobody wants to stop it because homeruns and bat flips take precedence. Sure, let’s speed the game up by boosting hitters.
Take the arm guards off the hitters and put the fear back in the hitter. Umpires take a step back and let the players handle business, they are grown men and do not need a babysitter. Pitchers won’t max out at 5 or 6 innings and take a couple mph off the heater. Then maybe games will speed up. Win-win-win. Otherwise the arm injuries will continue to rise and I’m not in-favor of it.
DarkSide830
well throwing at batters certainly isnt going to help a pitcher’s arm strength.
ohioplayers
Dark side- has anyone actually TRIED that? It may be a really good training method and you’re just dismissing it without giving it a chance
its_happening
One word for hitters: duck.
coldbeer
TJ surgery used to be a bad thing. Now, it’s viewed as a potential upgrade to a young arm. “Come back better than ever.” It’s a disgrace.
Cat Mando
coldbeer…..
“Now, it’s viewed as a potential upgrade to a young arm. “Come back better than ever.””….Ummmmm….no.
One out of every two major league pitchers who has UCL reconstruction will throw fewer than 100 innings the rest of his career.
tht.fangraphs.com/tommy-john-surgery-success-rates…
spinach
I don’t think weakening the batter is going to make pitchers try less hard. I think they will still go mad effort in the desire for 12k/9 rather than 9k/9 or whatever they were at before the batter lost the protection. If what I suggested is the instinct of even some pitchers, then all the other pitchers will immediately begin to appear worse than them by comparison and will have to raise the effort up anyway to correct. That’s a quick take but makes sense I think.
its_happening
So we are in-agreement that arm guards makes a hitter stronger? You said weakening the batter, which I assume taking off arm guards weakens them. Ok, we’re on the same page.
What would happen is some, not all, will back off the plate. The outside corner becomes more important, thus control over velocity. Plus that decreases the hitters chances hitting curve/slider, or fouling it off.
Less pitches, less pitches with force, forces hitters to work even harder to sustain great success, less injuries down the road for pitchers, possibly longer outings from starters, quicker games.
Win.
Priggs89
That is correct. Pitchers aren’t going to stop throwing as hard as they can, especially with how bullpens are utilized now. It gets them paid. Simple as that.
its_happening
Wrong. Pitchers looking for a scholarship or reaching the major leagues will not stop throwing hard. When they realize they do not have to they will pace themselves and take a couple mph off like they did before. Wins, Cy Young contention, durability, they get you paid. Because very few are durable in today’s game, the gas gains the dollars.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Trying to figure out how the batter not wearing elbow padding will protect the pitcher’s UCL…
Seems like a medically dubious proposition.
its_happening
Hitters went padless for over 100 years. I’m sure you’ll figure it out. Funny enough, the arm problems have risen ever since more players starting wearing arm guards. Imagine that!
mlb1225
There’s almost no correlation to one another. Pitchers aren’t going to throw any softer because the batter decided not to wear an elbow pad at the plate. Players also aren’t going to be backing off the plate a lot more just because now there’s not an inch of plastic protecting their joint, unless they’re use to using the arm guards like Barry Bonds used to wear. Also, the players union would never agree to a ban on arm guards/elbow guards.
Priggs89
Correlation =/= Causation
its_happening
mlb – you are correct about the MLBPA. Thus, the arm problems will continue.
If the player wants to crowd the plate without an arm guard it’s their prerogative. Bet 1 or 2 per lineup will. That’s enough to make the difference.
You’d be incorrect about having no correlation. From 1995 onward, and add the other arm surgeries, have skyrocketed. That’s precisely the time arm guards became the new norm.
mlb1225
Just because that’s when arm guards started to become more used doesn’t mean that’s why there is more injuries. Maybe it’s because of the rise in velocity? I mean, pitchers are throwing way harder now, and way earlier in their lives than they did years ago. Burdi has probably pitching regularly since before he was 16. I’m sure over a decade of wear and tear on your arm will cause an injury, and is a more plausable theory than batters wearing arm guards.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
The funny part is that you are serious.
There hasn’t been a World War since color TV, might these be connected, as well?
Let me know what the voices tell you.
therealryan
What if I were to tell you this rock keeps away tigers.
mlb1225
Burdi has probably been playing in organized leagues since he was in his early teens, or even earlier than that. That goes for a lot of players. Noah Syndergaard didn’t sit out all of 2017 with arm surgery because of elbow covers. He has played pro ball since he was 17. Plus, he played in High School, middle school, and probably had played little league as well.
its_happening
So all of you are in-favor of more arm injuries? Perfect. Making sure we’re on the same page here.
MLB, pitchers do believe they need more gas on the heater to get guys out today. They’ve also been conditioned as such because they have a limited inning total along with pitch counts. Overuse? Sure. Kids may be playing more games today than they ever did before.
If you want to neglect the coincidence that is fine. I would honestly be embarrassed to ever side with forwhomjoshbell on anything as he’s been proven in previous boards to be a tool.
mlb1225
Nobody is in favor of anybody getting injured. However, to say that it’s because of elbow guards is ridiculous. it’s nothing more than a coincidence. MLB pitchers are throwing harder than ever before. While don’t always think that’s a good thing, it’s because the game is changing and evolving.
mlb1225
Nothing much you can do about it unless it’s your kid, and you don’t want them to be the hardest thrower on the team, or you don’t want to pitch until they’re older. If you ban elbow guards, guys will still be throwing 97.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
“Armguards cause Tommy John injuries, why won’t you tools see the obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
K.
jdgoat
Amazing thread
Fred K. Burke
True that some MLB hitters go up to bat looking like they should be NHL goaltenders with all that padding.
jdgoat
So sad. He was really putting it together too.
mlb1225
That was really hard to watch yesterday. Truly made me feel a bit sick when he blew his arm out.
jimmyz
Didn’t see it live but watching a replay it brought back thoughts of when Jason Kendall shredded his ankle running through first base years ago.
Robertowannabe
Wasn’t quite as dramatic but actually made me think of Dave Dravecky….That moment was truly sickening…… 🙁
apbadogs
I can’t imagine the pain of throwing a pitch and having your arm break.
its_happening
RE: Dravecky – which time? Both were cringeworthy. Add Tony Saunders from the old Devil Rays too.
Robertowannabe
The first when he was throwing a pitch in a game. Believe the 2nd break, while tragic happened in a post game celebration when his rand towards the mound with the rest of the team in the NLCS
bravesfan
Made of glass
66TheNumberOfTheBest
So far, the two big negatives to an otherwise positive start for the Pirates….
Lots of injuries and the bullpen blowing leads.
This game combined both in a uniquely painful way. Tough loss.
Terrible shame for Burdi, the guy finally fights his way back and dominates (until last night obviously) only to have to now fight his way back from a deeper hole and a longer path back.
mlb1225
Hell, it’s not like the injuries have been that detrimental to the Bucs so far. Young guys have come up and have done pretty well to fill in for the injured players. It’s mainly the pen.
Robertowannabe
I can’t even blame the pen so much on the 7th inning. Weird stuff all over the field on that inning….. Bizarro world!
mlb1225
Yea, it just so happened the first hard hit ball of that inning just so happened to be a bases clearing triple.
GarryHarris
Having suffered through many injuries myself, seeing someone in that much pain makes me suspect that he suffered a tear in a major nerve.
Josht
No relation to the great Al Birdie
athleticsnchill
I responded the exact same way when I blew my arm out. I feel for the guy.
Melchez
Maybe we should just have a pitching machine on the mound? It would cut down on the injuries to the pitchers. Have the DH feed the ball into the machine… give him some defensive responsibility.
HarveyD82
pirates really like buying glass. waste of money on burdi and chisenhall…
DarkSide830
low risk high reward really. both have promise, despite their health concerns.
mlb1225
Burdi hasn’t really been a waste of money. Some bonus pool cash, and $559K to pay Burdi’s salary isn’t too much of a waste.
mlb1225
Good to hear that it wasn’t a complete tear. The moment I saw him go down, I thought he tore his UCL and was going to have to undergo TJ surgery again.
Robertowannabe
Was I thought he had a bicep tear the way he was holding his bicep. Yes, good to hear. Hope it will just be rest then rehab and be back much sooner than I thought last night.
Koamalu
See you next year Burdi.
joew
oh thank god, i mean its still bad but much better than many of us sitting at home thought it might be.
We’re rooting for you Nick get Well!