The Giants and Blue Jays have announced a trade that will send outfielder Kevin Pillar to San Francisco. Heading back to Toronto in return are righty Derek Law, recently designated infielder Alen Hanson, and righty Juan De Paula.
The Giants designated outfielder Michael Reed to create roster space. He joins both Law and Hanson as recent 40-man roster casualties. Law had already been outrighted prior to this move, while Hanson was still in DFA limbo.
It’s not immediately clear how the Giants will line up in the outfield. Youngster Steven Duggar is likely in line for most of the time in center, but Pillar would offer a platoon match there — the former hits from the left side, the latter from the right — and could also spend time in the corners. He was obviously preferred to the untested Reed, who was added to the mix via late in camp.
Pillar, 30, has some pop but struggles in the on-base department. He’s a lifetime .260/.297/.396 hitter, but has been better (100 wRC+) against left-handed pitching. Pillar’s appeal lies in his glovework and baserunning. While metrics dimmed on his overall defensive work last year, Pillar has a history of outstanding work up the middle and has one of the game’s most impressive highlight reels on the outfield grass. He could end up being moved at the deadline, kept as a one-year fill-in piece, or kept for 2020 via arbitration (his final season of control).
For the Jays, Pillar simply wasn’t part of the long-term plans. This transaction is the latest that clears out roster space and sheds some payroll. The club could have held onto Pillar in hopes that he’d turn in a quality first half and become a mid-season trade chip, but will instead drop his $5.8MM salary and open the door for Anthony Alford to get a shot at the majors.
The Toronto organization does pick up a few potentially helpful roster assets in Law and Hanson. The former had a nice 2016 debut but has struggled since. Law will be available as a depth relief piece if a need arises. Hanson, 26, was a major contributor least year in San Francisco but faded down the stretch. He could take up a utility role, though the Jays have several such players on the roster already.
But the only player with notable potential future value is De Paula, a 21-year-old who has had some success in the minors. He reached the Class A level last year, making one start there. Over 233 innings in parts of four seasons in the low minors, he carries a 2.47 ERA with 8.8 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9.
De Paula originally came to the Giants last year in the swap that sent Andrew McCutchen to the Yankees. As JJ Cooper of Baseball America notes on Twitter, he has now been swapped three times already in his still-nascent career.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
turner9
Spectacular!!
jbigz12
Pillar for the giants trash and a lotto ticket? I didn’t think they needed to be in on a guy like that now but this seems too cheap not to.
oaklandfan22
The prospect they are getting back is the guy they wanted. Giants are in no position to be dishing out prospects for mediocre veterans.
jbigz12
He’s an extremely raw 20 year old who may never be able to throw strikes. He’s also been moved 3 times. I’m thinking teams get ahold of this guy and don’t see him making it to the top level. He’s rated as a 40 FV prospect pretty much the definition of a lotto ticket. Their major league OF is a joke and they might think that pillar has some untapped potential as a hitter. Who knows but it’s not a very big cost.
5TUNT1N
The real trade here is 2 months and less paid to mccutcheon just got us a year+ of a potential decent outfielder.. worth it! Sucks the weak farm took a hit I get it but that’s the trade and it worked.
hiflew
You are ALWAYS in the position to improve your big league team using lotto ticket class A prospects that may or may not ever contribute at the big league level. Otherwise, there is no point to any of this.
mrnatewalter
De Paula wasn’t even taken in the Rule 5 draft. I don’t think he’s much of a loss.
acarneglia
Thank god he’s out of the AL East!!!
PopeMarley
Are you president of the Kevin Pillar fan club?
acarneglia
No
Baltsportsfan
Thank god the Orioles don’t have to face him 18 games a season anymore. He could kill threes birds with one swing
Steven Chinwood
Who will even notice he’s gone?
wiggysf
I think I preferred Reed to Joe, but I understand the move.
BravesCanada
Reed is absolutely jacked
claude raymond
Reed is hitless. So is joe but he’s an infielder. Not difficult to understand
pustule bosey
Reed isn’t just hitless, he struck out in almost every at bat
disadvantage
The Rule 5 status of Joe probably helped his case.
claude raymond
Again, nothing to do with JOE
james matzas
Reed had 8 ABs = SIX strikeouts!!!
WarrenSpahn
so what?
pustule bosey
in spring that is what i thought, he has a hell of an arm and power but he has to make contact to show it
SFGiants4ever
Joe needs to go, he is overwhelmed by Major League pitching.
Williamson should not have been DFA’d.
claude raymond
Joe is versatile. Mac is not. But neither will be on the team when Vogt is ready.
I Believe We Can Win
Makes the Dwight Smith Jr deal to the Orioles all the more puzzling. Why not approach the giants about sending them pillar and grichuck earlier and going with McKinney Alford and Smith? Grichuck isnt part of the plans lomg term either id assume.
turner9
Because Smith JR isnt a very good feilder and has been inconsistent at the plate.
I believe he was also out of options when they lost him to the Orioles
Michael Chaney
I actually thought he had an option left but I don’t remember so you might be right. Also, I read your reply as JR Smith at first.
DoItDoug
Smith has one option left.
Dalamar931
smith has no options left.
gorav114
Smith has 1 option left
Gunnerson
smith is THE ONLY option left
gorav114
Hits in all five games this season.
gorav114
He’s looked great so far (I know small sample size) on both sides of the ball and it only cost the O’s international money they are not using. Has been a steal so far.
jbigz12
I like Smith. He doesn’t do anything extremely well but he chips in in all facets. Could be a 15/15 guy who hits 270/340 or something while playing okay defense. Not a bad pickup.
mstrchef13
Out of options or not, the Orioles got a ML outfielder for fake money. I make that deal 10/10 times.
jbigz12
Not only fake money, but fake money we weren’t going to use because we have an abundance of it.
terrymesmer
Smith had an option.
bluejays12345
He is most definitely apart of the future, he’s only 25
I Believe We Can Win
27* and only under control for 1 more year after this.
cptstupendous
Extension signed.
jdgoat
Grichuk can be a part of the future if he signs an extension.
I Believe We Can Win
He hasn’t. Until he does blue jays cant count him as part of the long term plan with only 1 more year of team control; there should be a plan b in house option.
flippinbats79
Haha he signed one today
its_happening
No to Grichuk. Need him to play well and need to deal him this year. He is not part of the future nor can he be trusted to be consistent.
mkwhitty
The team is extremely high on Grichuk.. I’d imagine he gets the bulk of playing time in CF going forward.
I Believe We Can Win
Good power horrible obp. You should have a cf that can give you top of the order on base skills. Serviceable but a career obp of .297 theres room for improvement.
jbigz12
You just said it’s fine if Margot gives you a 90 WRC+ but now grichuk needs to have those OBP skills? Margot doesn’t?
warren r.
.300 OBP is fine when you also have .500 slugging — Grichuk was on pace for 40 doubles and 30 home runs last year, but missed out on that because he lost a month to injury.
I Believe We Can Win
Selective reading at its finest.
You left out the part where I said 90 wrc is ok if you get elite defense. It’s the kevin keimaier Byron Buxton kevin pillar types where slightly below offense is accepted if they provide elite defense in center.
But hey, ignore part of the comment if it fits your argument right lol? Dumb.
If grichuck can give them elite defense, which he won’t, then hed be an ok option in cf long term with low obp.
And who said the padres couldnt improve by finding a better cf than margot?
jbigz12
Grichuk had a 115 WRC+ and a 109 for his career. My point was you’re caught up on his OBP. Then you rambled on about some nonsense about how your CF should be a top of the order guy w good on base skills. No, if you have a CF who is good defensively and can hit the baseball then you have something rare. Over half the CF’s in baseball can only do 1 of those things. Margot included.
spudchukar
As a Cardinal fan, being “High” on Grichuk was a commonly heard refrain. However, reality sets in after the buzz, and the intrigue has a way of wearing off.
goalieguy41
Anthony Alford will be in CF.
JonCor
This aged well : )
Balk
Well…that’s a fair signing. Law was not doing anything with the club and Hansen just didn’t get off the ground this spring
claude raymond
It’s a trade
lowtalker1
The giants rule 5 guy looked over matched at the plate, but has a good eye. I figured he would have been cut lose.
SFGiants4ever
He is definitely overwhelmed
solaris602
Giants finally acquire a genuine CF who will be able to cover that massive pasture better than anyone they’ve had out there recently. Even if his stick is iffy, this is a plus move for SF.
SFGiants74
You’re right. Duggar couldn’t cover a toilet seat.
claude raymond
Seriously?
SFGiants74
It is how I felt about Solaris602’s scouting report.
jbigz12
Duggar can play defense. This makes him extremely redundant now. 2 light hitting Glove first OF’s. But it’s still an upgrade over what they had.
claude raymond
Gotcha
claude raymond
Sometimes Vince it’s hard to recognize sarcasm on this site. I see now that you were not being serious with the toilet seat comment.
However, I easily can cover a toilet seat. Can’t play cf tho
SFGiants74
No problem. I realized long ago that it is hard to convey a full thought on the internet.
claude raymond
Ditto
Balk
Are you being serious? Duggar can’t man centerfield? You’re joking right?
22jclark
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic. Duggar can fly and does a good job in CF. Pillar will mostly play a corner OF spot. Only person Duggar loses his job to is Duggar, if he fails to hit for average. He needs to limit strikeouts as well. Defensively, he’s the best they have and that includes Pillar
Redwolves3
Sloaris6oz … agree with your comment.
Pillar and Duggar will track down a lot of balls in Oracle Park; especially in triples alley.
Anything Pillar provides offensively will be way above what Giants got from Reed and have gotten from Joe … both were hitting .000
larry48
Pillar is a bad hitter period. Now starts season 0 for 15 with Blue jays and traded to Giants o for 5 total o for 20. Another non hitting out fielder. LOL
bluejays12345
You know what, a change of scenery might just be what Pillar needs, and maybe a new philosophy of hitting and a different view. I hope it works out for Kevin and his family. Good luck with the Giants Kevin, and thank you for all you did for the Toronto Blue Jays
ABStract
Nice to see some positivity and good vibes being aimed at someone around here for once!
Kudos bluejays12345!
nelson_c
Wow. Anything that isn’t nailed down is gone. Thanks for all the great memories KP, we loved the superman catches but most Jays fans knew he was way over-rated just because he got on highlight reels for being a bit slow and needing to dive when others would just catch on the run.
His bat is pretty bad too, no patience at all, even though every spring he would come out saying he didn’t want to swing as much and be more selective.
sovtechno
Pillar’s bat wasn’t bad. He was just a really hot or cold hitter. All said and done he produced at a respectable rate. Good for 10-20 HR, 30-40 2B and a handful of stolen bases.
Luigi Vampa
his bat was 10-15% below average… i think it’s fair to call that bad territory
Costandreward
.260 is actually above average…
jbigz12
And posting an empty batting average doesn’t say anything about Pillar. He’s never posted an above average season at the plate…..
pustule bosey
as a giants fan, I’ll take 10% below avg
JonCor
Not in a vacuum. No one cares about an empty BA. Literally no one.
gorav114
An OBP below .300 is atrocious
Ryan W
What does this do for the giants? Flip him at the deadline for more? I don’t understand.
claude raymond
Pillar for Reed. Young like a prospect, only more experienced. And under control for 2 years.
And yes, if not in contention, trade for prospects at deadline
Ziggy13
Pillar has been a favorite of mine since he came up. Yeah his bat hasn’t been good, but can’t believe Toronto is dumping him after his worst season without giving him a chance to improve his stock
dalrob
You can say all you want until you see Pillar swing at pitches in the dirt, time and time again. For the Jays it is addition by subtraction. The players are just bonuses.
VTGiant
If he’s swinging at dirt pitches he’ll fit right in with Crawford, Belt and Sandoval
wiggysf
I’d take belt off that list, but yeah he will fit right in
Machmslf
Woohoo bring up alford
Ryan_W
De Paula will be a great grab for the jays.
Pillar is a solid player but a liability for any contending team due to his bat. His D is still good but trending in the wrong direction.
Good trade for the Jays
its_happening
Kevin Pillar worked his tail off to overcome upper management’s burial of him over the likes of Colby Rasmus, Anthony Gose and Dalton Pompey, plus more. Pillar was not supposed to make the big leagues or make any impact at the major league level.
He did.
He was one of the key players on those 2015-16 teams when OF depth and OF defense were highly questionable. Thank you Kevin. Thank you for stepping up when the team needed you to.
Onto Alford….he is not ready. He hasn’t performed in AAA and struggled with any pitch above 92 mph in Spring. He will need to work even harder than Pillar to take the next step. If you don’t believe, compare Buffalo Bisons numbers between the two players.
At the same time, more playing time for McKinney.
Heinz
How is Alford not ready? Had a better Spring than Pillar. If AAA numbers matter to you then Stroman wouldn’t have been called up and Pillar would be raking because he raked in the minors. Which is why he’s such a free swinger in the Show. Just because what you do in the minors does not automatically dictate what you will do in the MLB. It’s not black and white like that. Alford already has way better at-bats and approach at the plate than Pillar. Loved Pillar but he was unwilling to change his approach or at least stick to change throughout the entire year. He has shown us who he is as a player already and i’m okay with letting the kids play instead. We need to know what these prospects have or don’t have before making any BIG trades or BIG FA signings to fill those holes. You don’t know what your holes are if you are constantly blocking young players because of nostalgic feelings towards players we need to let go.
its_happening
Anthony Alford got exposed/overmatched when facing major league pitching.
Anthony Alford can’t hit minor league pitching.
Anthony Alford has not hit well, for the most part, as a professional.
Why am I having to defend the obvious? Are you kidding me, Heinz Ketchup?
I’m all for the youth movement. I wanted Morales gone and Tellez up. It happened. Tellez performed better than Alford, period. This shouldn’t even be a discussion. Alford was dominated the second half of spring and you’re justifying his existence as a sub-par minor leaguer! Prospect rankings have always been wrong when it comes to Alford.
Heinz
LOL Exposed? Based on the small sample size of at-bats in the Show? So what was Pillar? Not exposed for his entire career? Smh. Listen its okay to just admit you like Pillar and was a fav player of yours who you are sad to let go. It’s also okay to say he sucks at the plate but you still liked him. Theres nothing wrong with it. But stop trying to convince people of his actual baseball history as if we can’t go and look at his stats and video footage of him having terrrrrrrible at-bats, even footage as early as last week LOL. C’mon we are grown-ups. Footage exists, You can’t talk anyone into believing otherwise.
jaysfan77
Well said Heinz
jaysfan77
I’d also add, what’s the biggest hit or at bat Pillar had as a Jay? I bet you can’t remember one, because in big moments, his approach defaulted to free swinger.
Heinz
Not to mention he would TV dive or jump when it wasn’t really needed like he did the other day against the Tigers. Still love him cause his glove definitely deserved at least 1 Gold Glove but theres a bunch of times he would dive or jump when it wasn’t needed.
its_happening
First to Ketchup….no, Pillar wasn’t my favourite player. On a really good team he’d be 9-hole with good defense. However, not only has Alford never produced with the bat, at any level, he’s a below average defender. He should be in AAA working on both. He will underperform and you won’t be around to admit you have no clue about Alford’s overall ability. I’ve watched him in the minors enough to know he is not ready.
That does not mean he will never be ready. He needed a few months in Buffalo.
As for Jaysfan….How many monster, highlight reel catches did Pillar make? Exactly. Nobody is questioning Pillar’s lack of offensive ability. If that’s your go-to, you have no standing to suggest Anthony Alford is an offensive juggernaut. You must’ve bought into the Anthony Gose hype prior to his arrival. We saw how that turned out.
Again, why you two even took exception with what I said is laughable.
jbs32
Look, Alford isn’t the end all be all, but to say he has never produced in the minors is just wrong. He hit over 300 with a 400 on base in AA a couple years ago, and is a 265/360 hitter in his minor league career. Not eye popping numbers, but far from never producing. He is at a point where they have to give him an extended look and decide what his future is, Moving Pillar allows them to do that in a lost season, If they don’t like what they see, he is probably one of the next ones out to make room for someone else
its_happening
He never produced in the minors.
He never hit double digit homeruns in a season.
He isn’t a very good defender.
His numbers are comparable to Dalton Pompey, who’s been left for dead.
Alford is being called up because of a gift spot on the team’s Top Prospect list. Great athlete, no question.
240/315/660 hitter in AAA. That’s the level just below the major leagues in-case you need a reminder.
charlesk
Jays are 2-3 and headed for 100 losses. And how will any of these pieces we got for Pillar help with the rebuild? I thought #Shapkins knew how to draft and build a farm system? Their returns for tearing down the Jays have been just dismal, and we’re still paying Tulo, Martin, Morales, etc. Milwaukee and the Yankees rebuilt and contended within threee seasons. We’re on year four here with no hope. Pillar literally ran through walls for the Jays. He’s a 32 round draft pick who made it to the Show. Best of luck to him and his family in SF.
jdgoat
Why do you only troll the Bluejays?
its_happening
Why are you insulting Charles, JD? Please stop being a hypocrite.
mlb1225
I have confidence that Alford can match Pillar’s production.
its_happening
MLB – care to explain why you have confidence?
mlb1225
I think he has the potential to hit at least .260/.399/.400 with a few stolen bases and plus defense.
its_happening
That’s nice MLB….
Alford couldn’t hit .260 in AAA. Will be harder in the MLB.
Alford’s defense is not very good. Plus D? Not in his lifetime.
Nobody steals bases anymore. Alford stole 27 in 2015. He will be lucky to break 30 in a season more than once.
Alford’s going back to Buffalo where he needs to improve. Moot point now.
jimmertee
Exactly Charles. Pillar is a salary dump. The Jays mgmt were ordered by the Rogers Board to lie to the fans in 2017 and ’18 for the sake of selling tickets andRogers cell subscriptions by telling the fans they were still trying to be competative.
This money grab cost the team 2 years of rebuilding time and very poor return on selling off assets.
The poor return continues. I think the Jays are being ordered to lower the team budget as low as they can go.
emceecee
Charles Kilme.. are you high? On year 4? of a rebuild? The team made the playoffs in 2016, this is only the 3rd season since then, so not sure how we could be on year 4 of a rebuild. Especially considering they didn’t do a rebuild in 2017. You could even argue they didn’t REALLY go into a rebuild in 2018. Was that a mistake? Probably. But you can’t say this is year 4 of a rebuild. Its the first year… maybe the second.
jdgoat
Charles is a troll. Shatkins could’ve traded Pillar for Trout and he’d complain how Trout’s getting paid too much. He’s only here to complain. Like why are you crying about getting nothing for negative assets in Martin, Tulo, and Morales, two of whom were products of the old regime?
charlesk
Exactly my point emceecee… they thought they could contend in 2017 with Morales trying to replace EE and again in 2018 on fumes… not. AA would have extracted real value in the tear down. Shapkins? Not so much. The Yankees and Brewers are two great examples of how to rebuild without stuffing fans with consistently poor product on the field. I guess you and JDGoat are part of the 2,000 odd apologists for this dumpster fire…
The Oregonian
Wow, Reed wasn’t given a long leash at all. 8 at bats? I know he didn’t look good in them but I’d rather see what he could have done instead of bringing in another aging vet. How does this help build for the future? And Hansen is gone too now? Eroding depth for a declining weak-hitting CF
jbigz12
Pillar is still in his theoretical prime. He just turned 30. If his offense finds a new level in SF he could probably be dealt for more than you just gave up. I don’t think this is a huge gamble.
claude raymond
Trade candidate at deadline.
JayRyder
Because We’re Here To Win. !!!
Balk
I believe Reed will be back up mid summer after he gets more at bats. We didn’t lose Reed.
FireJames
Hanson and Law were out of options and were dfa’d already so they were already gone from the team. So really it was only Juan De Paula that left the team in the deal.
david klein
Pillar is gonna play everyday I bet Duggar moves to LF
claude raymond
Vice versa
KozmosTerezniak
Duggar played RIght Field in the minors, so I would think you keep the two CF’s in center and right doesn’t matter who’s where and move parra to left.
GarryHarris
I’m thinking that will be the case too. Pillar in CF, Duggar in LF.
claude raymond
Duggar will play cf only. Why restrict that development/progress? Pillar is for 2 yrs (or less if they flip him) and Duggar is there for long term.
FireJames
Pillar will play left against rights and center against leftys. Duggar will play center against righty and bench vs leftys.
claude raymond
Probably right, FJ, but I’m thinking Duggar will play against lefties more than was first planned. I guess we’ll find out
timewalk42
Nice move San Fran
imgman09
Pillar hits lefties better and the Giants will play him at the corners and Platoon at times with Duggar or Parra,good fit!
JayRyder
Very Very Glad Farhan didn’t wait too long and got some help in the right handed outfield dept. . .
This is a swell trade that was needed. After last night’s zero cash in on Reed’s part. With one out on third. The guy doesn’t have the mental side down yet situationally. But Pillar is a Major Leaguer…
Farhan. Ya did good. Got what you wanted. Waited it out. And now forward. !!!
Joe, you still have a chance. But I didn’t think either one of those two would last long anyway……
Love It. !
SupremeZeus
Giants are going for it.
arc89
4th place is there for the taking. Seriously the giants need to pick up prospects not 30 y o 4th outfielders.
Balk
And how do they do that genius? They got rid of the trash can for Pillar. Trade deadline will be here soon enough and you’ll see massive returns for Smith, Watson, and possibly mad bum.
SupremeZeus
Obviously, you’re not a golfer.
milkman
Very confident pillar and duggar will not platoon and they will both be in the lineup on a daily basis. how Boche wants to do that is up to him
walls17
I don’t really know how good Pillar is. Good defender will be an asset in that park but he’s not the type of hitter teams look for these days, especially Zaidi
tigerfan1968
Good trade for everyone. Kevin will love playing on real grass. Giant fans will love his enthusiasm and he will make highlight reel catches. Kevin is a decent hitter, not great power, not great base stealing speed but solid all round player.
jaysfan77
I suspect Smoak shouldn’t be far behind as Vladdy will most likely DH for a fair amount and Tellez can play first.
22jclark
I feel bad for Reed but sometimes you don’t get an extended look. He looks to be lacking confidence at present. He had to get the runner home from 3rd last night with less than 2 outs. It was pivotal and he K’d. He hasn’t looked good in any at-bats thus far. Runs will be at a premium for the Giants and guys will have short leashes. Law and Hanson have also struggled and I doubt Hansen was going to clear waivers so Zaidi got something for him. Good move, not sure why so many are trashing Pillar. Give him some time and we’ll see.
coldbeer
Ross Atkins out here trimming the fat off of this 70 win Jays team. Smoak, Stro, Galvis, Giles, and a couple bounce back arms still left to move out by the deadline. I like it!!! Genius!!!
vladdyjr
If Stroman is pitching well by the deadline they’d be better off keeping him and signing him. He’s not old and when he pitches well he’s not a pitcher that can easily be replaced
coldbeer
Stroman won’t take a HomeTown discount, his ego won’t allow it, so the best bet is to move him especially if he can regain his form. The return of assets would be too much to consider keeping him
Solar Flare
Instantly becomes their best outfielder this year.
22jclark
Duggar is better. Wait and see. Younger, faster and more upside. Pillar will mostly be a corner OF’er, imho
claude raymond
Not sure who’s better. Pillar makes circus catches. But I do agree Duggar will stay in center.
angler
He will be a throw in when the Braves acquire Madbum in June.
gorav114
Seems like an awful trade for the Giants. As an Os fan I’ve been happy about getting Smith from Toronto, very under radar move that’s paid off so far especially considering it only cost the O’s international money they are not using
jbigz12
Idk how it seems awful for Giants they didn’t give anyone up except a 20 year old lotto ticket in A ball. The other 2 were roster filler guys.
biffpocoroba
Zaidi makes a good move here. He trades two pieces that weren’t going to make the Giants’ 40-man roster, and a lottery ticket (De Paula) with upside for a starting OF that can be moved at the deadline. Yes, Pillar isn’t anyone’s idea of a stud ML outfielder, but a outfield of Pillar/Duggar/Parra covers a lot of ground and runs well in a ballpark that needs that, and can be quite effective when paired with a better-than-expected pitching staff.
Will this move help the team score more runs? Yes, when compared to something with Reed. But Zaidi managed to do 3 things with this move: 1) Show the clubhouse that there will be some commitment to this year after all, after seeing the good start from the pitching staff; 2) Create a good defensive outfield alignment that Bochy can plug in every day, something the Giants haven’t had in several seasons; and 3) add another piece that can be moved later.
Now all the team needs are for Belt, Posey, and Crawford to hit what their salaries dictate, and get whatever they can from Panik and Longoria. Will that happen? Probably not, but it’s possible. In the meantime, the team will be more watchable until Zaidi backs up the trucks later this season.
22jclark
I think we’ll all be pleasantly surprised with the results if the core guys you mention play at least 140 games + each. I think Panik goes back to near .300
bobtillman
Any more cost cutting and the team in Toronto will be named the “Blue Rays”…….
Seems pretty cheap for Pillar, who has his uses. And he’s better than what the Giants had (which, admittedly, isn’t saying much).
bigfatandugly
solid move by the Jays. pillars bat in the AL east is a liability no matter where you put it in that line up.
salary dump, prospects and moving talent up. well done.
jimmertee
I’m shocked. On one hand we now see that the Jays Mgmt are for sure [finally] in tank mode which I love. I’m all for freeing up space for the prospects.
On the other side, the Jays got nothing for Pillar. I don’t get it. Did Atkins panic thinking Pillar was going to slide into untradeable land? Why not wait until the deadline? Why not try to bundle Pillar with other available Jays players and get something of value back?
I don’t get the return on this deal. Giants won this deal easily.
The Jays pitchers ain’t going to like this deal.
Sigh,. I guess it’s a win for the Jays and Jays fans, albeit a tainted one.
its_happening
I am baffled as to why the Giants want Pillar. Giants are in no-man’s land and aren’t winning anything. Are they hoping Pillar performs and flip him?
I don’t think there is a winner here. Blue Jays want to give Alford the keys and he’s not ready. Saw it in Spring. He needs more time in AAA. Jays can’t put him in CF. Fans are in for a rude awakening.
charlesk
Agreed jimmertee… why pull this trade now with no leverage and no meaningful return? If SF needed him now that badly then ask for a top prospect. Makes no sense getting scraps. Atkins is hopeless at extracting value from trades. Pillar literally ran through walls for the Jays. He’s a 32 round draft pick who made it to the Show. Best of luck to him and his family in SF.
charlesk
Agreed jimmertee… why pull this trade now with no leverage and no meaningful return? If SF needed him now that badly then ask for a top prospect. Makes no sense getting scraps. Atkins is hopeless at extracting value from trades. Pillar literally ran through walls for the Jays. He’s a 32 round draft pick who made it to the Show. Best of luck to him and his family in SF.
charlesk
Look at who the Yankees received in trades since the end of the 2015 season as they’ve rebuilt: Aaron Hicks, Chad Green, Gleyber Torres, Clint Frazier, Justus Sheffield who was flipped for James Paxton, Sonny Gray, Billy McKinney & Brandon Drury who they flipped for JA Happ, Giancarlo Stanton, Zach Britton, Andrew McCutchen, Luke Voit, etc
jimmertee
Yes, Charles, that is what happens when the GM is elite. “In Cashman they trust”
Squeezebuntz9
Love this trade.
Here is an Idea.
Yankees just lost Andujar for the season.
Trade Longo to Yankees for Frazier.
johnnybadd2019
Don’t need longo we got Tulo n Dj to man the hot corner
gmenfan
All the eggs in one basket, I see.
Squeezebuntz9
How’s that working out for you as of today?
Phillies2017
This is an excellent move
Pillar is under contract through 2020, meaning that if the Giants don’t have to trade him this summer if (and probably when) they fall out and start having to rebuild. in earnest. Realistically, they could easily get more than they gave up in the long run.
So. Cal. Giants fan
Thank you Mr. Zaidi for making an effort to improve the team. Although it’s still very early in the season, we need to score runs to win games considering the pitching staff has looked good. No disrespect to Mr. Reed but it was obvious he was completely overmatched facing big league pitching. Yes, he only had 8 big league at bats but he has to perform in situational hitting when given the opportunity. Mr. Joe better improve drastically or he will be next. Imho we still need a big bat that can change the appearance of the lineup, although last night it seemed like Buster was swinging harder than he did in the Padres series. Hopefully he gets rolling soon.
Frisco500
Smart move. Duggar and Pillar in OF will help keep Bumgarners ERA and peripherals low, raising his trade value. Meanwhile the two light hitters will help keep rpg low keeping Giants out of contention. This will make it a lil easier for the casual Giants fan to swallow a Madbum trade. Plus SF can possibly net yet another top 10 draft pick.
DougieJones
Someone took Law!?!?! Sorry Zaidi, I take everything back. GREAT move!
GDrank
Best of luck in San Fran KP, we’ll miss you.
Deke
Annnnnnd Bochy will hit him leadoff because for some reason he doesn’t think OBP matters for a leadoff guy, only that they play CF. I have no idea why he does this, it doesn’t matter how fast someone is if they don’t get on base.
WarrenSpahn
typical gints move: bring up your top prospect, give him 8 at bats, flush. trade for 30+ yo has-been, never-was….
1958giants
Can anybody remember Aaron Rowand?? One of many free agent/trade busts we have had, funny how the only players we sign are clearly not what they used to be (past prime, wish we could have got them 5 years previously)…..I am thinking the ball park is now our biggest negative, who (other than those nobody else wants) would want to work in a place where your production is lowered, your stats are killed, and HR’s are less likely. This ballpark sucks the production out of players, who would want to go there to hurt their career. HR’s used to be common there when everyone was on the juice (steroids), now days we are lucky to have someone hit 20 home runs (would led the team in that category)….bring in the fences, move the bullpen behind the drawn in fences……..pathetic work by all in the front office, terrible farm system, terrible international drafting, yet the front office gang is still reliving the rings from now 5 years ago and in denial. Going to be a long few years around here.
ElMagoN9ne
Feel sorry for Pillar he went from 3rd place to guaranteed last place. He’ll be traded again in July
rodster
All you Pillar haters might note that as of Saturday in six games, he has hit four home runs and driven in 12 runs. Not bad for a mediocre center fielder who was so happy to get out of Toronto that he has rejuvenated his career.
jimmertee
Pillar was a good player here in Toronto too. He got off to a slow start here. Hence my complaining that they got almost nothing for him from SanFran. Jays got almost fleeced in the Pillar deal.
Turbo1972
Pillar is a bad hitter that gives the odd highlight reel catch in the OF. He’s overpaid and the Jays made the right call. Pillar will be out if baseball in 3 years. Just a brutal offensive talent with brutal OBP.