MARCH 17: The Yankees have made an offer to Gonzalez, but there’s “not a great deal of optimism” they’ll reach an agreement, per Heyman.
MARCH 5: Left-hander Gio Gonzalez had at least been discussed “by some Yankees people” even before the team learned of Luis Severino’s rotator cuff inflammation earlier today, tweets MLB Network’s Jon Heyman. Similarly, Mark Feinsand of MLB.com reports that the Yankees do like Gonzalez and may inquire with agent Scott Boras about the lefty’s current asking price.
With Severino and CC Sabathia both unlikely to be ready for Opening Day, the Yankees’ rotation depth isn’t quite as strong as it once appeared. Of course, neither Severino nor Sabathia is expected to miss significant time, and the Yankees have quite a few other options on hand to fill in on a short-term basis; Domingo German, Luis Cessa, Chance Adams and Jonathan Loaisiga are all on the 40-man roster and all saw some experience at the MLB level last season.
Beyond that, the Yankees are already projected to enter the season with a luxury tax payroll that sits at just over $226MM, per Jason Martinez of Roster Resource. Because they’re already $20MM north of the $206MM threshold, the Yankees are not only subject to the initial 20 percent tax — they’ll also pay a 12 percent surcharge on any additional contracts. In order to sign Gonzalez (or any other Major League free agent), they’d effectively pay an additional $320K in taxes for every million dollars they spend.
As Feinsand points out, as well, there’s the more straightforward question of what to do with Gonzalez if (or when) the team’s rotation is fully healthy. Severino, James Paxton, Masahiro Tanaka, J.A. Happ and Sabathia are expected to comprise the Yankees’ rotation, and none of that quintet would figure to be pushed out by Gonzalez. Speculatively, the Yankees could deploy a six-man rotation or gauge Gonzalez’s willingness to pitch out of the ’pen. Ultimately, though, a pitcher as established as the 33-year-old Gonzalez seems like a tough fit in the Bronx, given the seemingly short-term nature of the absences with which Severino and Sabathia are currently faced.
That said, the tentative interest in Gonzalez is still of some note. If the Yankees incur further injuries or if Severino’s shoulder troubles prove to be more severe than initial testing has thus far suggested, a match with Gonzalez would suddenly appear considerably more plausible.
He should be signed. He is a good pitcher
His pitch count is usually around 95 by the fifth inning. He would surely test the bullpen every time he started.
So you’re saying he’d fit right in
Hahahahaha
2018 MLB average was 5.4IP/GS. Yankees were 5.3IP/GS, or 18th overall, 7th in the AL.
I don’t get it
Exactly.
He had 200 innings as recently as 2017. Anyway, even if he could only pitch 5 innings, that doesn’t make him useless. He would be great as a long relief/spot starter even if he didn’t make the rotation. It’s all about the amount of money he’d cost
Have you SEEN that Yankees pen? Their SPs only need to go 4 this season.
Yeah but you dont want to tax them to the point where theyre dead come the playoffs
Bengamin- that’s exactly what I meant. The bullpen is going to get a lot of work this season, especially when CC starts, so no need to sign a guy who is going to tax them even more. I have lived in the DC area for a number of years, and watched Gonzalez a lot- he is a headcase too. One bad call and he gets derailed. I would rather see the Yanks take a chance on Ervin Santana or even Dallas Kuechel than Gonzalez.
Don’t they first have to make the playoffs?
Yankees are not signing Keuchel
Ervin Santana is signed by White Sox. Gonzalez may not take a minors deal and he can’t take up a spot on 40-man when he’s not starting and he needs to stay fresh in the minors to make spot start
He would help them.
Lol SOO Not true… That how you KILL a BP
Yes, but their starters will have 4.50 ERAs even after only going 4 innings per start.
I take the Under on Paxton and Tanaka making 30 starts each this season.
They’ve been to the playoffs 20 of the last 24 years. Good chance it happens again this year.
He’s still a major League proven starter and in my view EVERY contender could do far worse for the bottom of their rotation.
Agreed which is why a Gio signing makes sense on a one year deal.
James Shields is still available lol
That’s probably all the Yankees would need out of him
Well bullpen definitely pass but that’s why there’s plenty of room Tanaka cc maybe even Paxon will need days off
He’s a decent number 4 or 5. Definitely should be signed by someone.
Of course they made a offer. How else but buying appearances into the playoffs do the Spankees get there.
Your grammar is blowing my mind. Anyway the Yankees always hav a bit more $
Another lefty starter? How many do they need? Paxton, Sabathia and Happ. Maybe they need to balance out the rotation.
Your question could apply to the lineup, too. Way too right handed!
That’s why Bird will start over Voit. Barring an injury, his bat and defense are better than Voit.
I’m still rooting for Bird, but I think Voit will be the starting first basemen. Voit will have to be pretty bad for a month or so, and if Bird is playing well in AAA, Bird could replace Voit.
That why I’m wondering why the Cardinals havnt checked in on him.
In 2017 and to start last season, the Red Sox went with four lefties in the rotation (and 2 of their next 3 options were lefties too). Made facing the Yankees’s righty lineup a nightmare. Very glad they’re down to 3 this year and replaced Pomeranz with Yankee-killer Eovaldi permanently.
Looks like they did pretty good against that Yankees lineup…
Yeah, beating them 3-1 in the playoffs was a nightmare.
Without Kimbrel, that series was tied up and going to game 5.
Eovaldi begs to differ…
Yankee Stadium is built for lefties. Having too many lefty starters is not a problem. They should be more concerned about how their lineup is too right handed for Yankee Stadium.
I’d love a big lefty bat in the Yankees lineup, but all of their righties hit RH pitching just fine, and the big guys hit plenty of opposite field home runs to the short porch.
I honestly had no idea he was a free agent.
I’d be amazed if his ERA in Yankee Stadium was sub 5.00…..
#luv,
I agree with you 200%
Gio’s Yankee Stadium ERA of 4.58 is misleading. For one thing, it only covers three starts. For another, his Yankee Stadium starts have all been against the Yankees lineup.
Is that rookie lefty from last year returning? He got hurt last year. I can’t remember his name
Jordan Montgomery, who won’t return until later this summer.
Jim already answered your question but i just wanted to add that he was a rookie in 2017, his sophomore season was last year
Jordan Montgomery will hopefully be back mid-season. I wouldn’t expect much from him this year though, fresh off tommy john.
Gotta love reporting like this….Gonzo’s “been discussed” by “some Yankee people”…..as if they haven’t discussed this before. Cashman’s a bright guy; I’m sure he spent the winter looking at all possibilities for his team. I’m sure Gonzo was in the discussion LONG before today.
But, as I try to explain to fans of teams that always play “for the future” (a future that never comes), like life, MLB changes every day. Injuries, under-performance, sometimes even over-performance change the landscape every day. The good ones react every day. That’s why they’re good.
“Cashman’s a bright guy;” – with 1 title in 19 years with access to unlimited resources, that’s a VERY debatable statement. He inherited those 98-00 teams, they don’t count. He has used that early immediate success to parlay into 18 seasons of “not good enough” and 1 title. That isn’t a great record.
Oh ya, I agree his record is far from pristine. But I chalk that up to an ownership that’s just not as aggressive as they used to be; and they’re in a division with a team with an ownership that’s hyper-aggressive.
He’s not bad; nor is he especially good. Not very imaginative from my point of view.
You know what gets me about the Yanks? They’ve actually become boring. And they really shouldn’t be. Judge is a GREAT player (and, if reports are true, a GREAT person). Gardner’s done the impossible; he’s actually UNDER-rated. A team with TWO great rookies. I could go on….
But really, they put me to sleep.
So, not winning Championships every year precludes him from being a “bright guy?” By your standards, baseball has a lot of dumb guys running teams., then. Nobody inherits 90-win teams, they’re built. He was partly responsible for building a team with home grown players that won 4 in 5 years.
Championships since 1918:
Dead Sux 5
Yankees 27
See how you can make your Championship tally seem not very impressive.
How many did u get to see, even around for might I ask?
You remember pre Georgie era when CBS owned the team and buried them?
Championships since 1918. Great bit of info. Right there.
You have 5 WS in the past century? Good job man. I’m still working on my first, but no teams respond to my challenge
The Yankees have ONE modern era title to the Red Sox FOUR. The bulk of the Yankees titles were won when powdered wigs were in fashion.
You should go visit the pyramids this summer since you are obsessed with ancient history.
When exactly did your version of the “modern era” begin?
This is how Yankee apologists react to the truth. They go back a century.
Dead Sux makes a terrible point here.
2001 when we left ANCIENT HISTORY behind.
Did you remember to wear your powdered wig while posting?
So the “modern era” began in 2004? LMAO!!!! Idiot.
I’m not a Cashman fan, and I agree he’s overrated given the resources, however, if winning the WS is the measure, it’s still a better track record than say…
whoever the Dodgers’ GM has been the last 30 years…
whoever the Mets’ GM has been the last 32 years…
whoever the Braves GM has been the last 23 years…
whoever the Rangers GM has been since they moved to Texas…
whoever the Mariners’ GM has been ever…
whoever the Blue Jays’ GM has been the last 25 years…
whoever the [_________] has been the last [________].
You get the idea.
Rangers 38 years and counting. Ugghhh
As a non-cashman fan, your assessment it’s pretty pro-cashman. No other GM would get such a tenure without a ring, like the teams you mentioned. If we compare track records like you did, then Dayton Moore us killing it.
In what universe is saying “I’m not a fan but others have been worse” being “pro” anyone?
As I clearly mentioned, given the resources he has he should be doing at least what the Bosox have done the last 18 years with 4 titles. That should be against what he is measured. But hey – maybe he’s a real good politician?
none of those teams except the Dodgers who have been to the fall classic two years in a row (albeit loses) have anywhere near the resources the Yankees have.
Its not apples to apples.
The whole body of work is questionable because of how involved ownership can be good or bad. If we are speaking on recent memory I like what Cashman has done a ton. He got the Steinbrenner’s to be patient and built a team from the bottom up. The Yankees have a really nice young core and money to sustain it. I’m no Yankees fan but I like what they have there. They could be really good for years to come. Title contenders no doubt
Dumb, Trumpish post. Those teams have all had multiple GM’s during the times mentioned.
Exactly the point, genius. TY!
YANKS have won 27 series, the next best has 8, their are 7 teams that have never won. The playoffs are outlier
Problem is, the first 3 teams he built weren’t his. They belonged to Bob Watson
I believe it’s mandatory if you talk about the Yankees and the 27 championships, you begin by saying “Once Upon a Time”
Spankees haven’t won a World Series in 9 years. How about those apples?
@Strike Four still better than a certain GM who had a movie written about him…
They don’t do movies about team winning if team is expected to win. Under dog sell movie tickets. Mighty Ducks. Bad News Bears. Rudy. Rocky. So Billy Beane gets movie.
Cashman is great, better too, because he puts playoff team together under pressure of expected for success.
But they make movies about a GM and his system that won absolutely nothing?
Actually, the movie was about a book about a GM. 😉
Billy Beane literally changed the game for small markets. And is considered one of the brightest baseball minds ever. But yah he’s $hit cuz he hasn’t won a championship.
I discussed date with Cindy Crawford too!
Seems like the kind of guy who would get torched in the AL East.
Cashman is closely monitoring his season on RBI 19 before making any decisions
I guess I am the only person that feels that Severino had this shoulder issue brewing for about a year and a half,
Why else would he not be the same pitcher as he was.
He brought it up today because his rotator cuff was so inflamed, that he reached his peak of pain.
Wouldn’t ya think he had all winter to rest it?
Just Saying
and ran with the 4 yr $40 mil deal
If he was hiding it last year, then was doing a good job cause i remember seeing him throwing 96-98mph heaters in a LOT of his starts late in games.
think this is not something he was hiding, not to mention the Yank’s wouldn’t have given him that extension without a physical that looked closely at his shoulder.
@John Silver
Over time the Rotator Cuff like any other over used part of the body gets worse.
Severino jumped at that extension and would have needed tests anyway from any other team that picked up during free agency He knew.
Why would any healthy great pitcher like Sevey, all of a sudden, give up hit after hit, run after run last few years, and have shoulder INFLAMMATION so early.
I went a couple years until I needed rotator cuff SURGERY big time, and I am just an Accountant, not a pitcher, Lol
EDIT:
HIM
Something was clearly up with Severino’s health in the second half of 2018. Any accountant could have told you that. So could us teachers 🙂
No, not at all, because he is my favorite player.
Jon Heyman reports interest in Boras client. Film at 11.
I’d like to see the Angels swoop in and take him.
Yes, please add another arm.
Skaggs has another bad start today.
^had
“What to do with Gonzalez when the rotation is fully healthy?” That’s a moot question. That rotation will never be fully healthy. The Yanks need to sign another starter now, and they will probably have to trade for another starter midseason when the next injury happens.
Yankees need an Ace, not another # 3/4 starter
How are the Yankees getting the ace? Kluber or Bauer are going to cost more than Florial and Frazier. Don’t even think they’re necessarily available right now either. There’s no ace to be had.
they are not and that is the problem and the main obstacle to a WS. Its time for a change at GM.
I didn’t say they were getting one, though that’s what their rotation needs as they are lacking a number 1 starter. But it doesn’t make sense to get a mid /back end rotation starter when they can easily replace that with talent from triple A. They’d be better off making a trade mid-season than sign Gio.
agreed
Fair enough. I don’t think you’re calling up Loaisiga or someone else fRom AAA and they’re pitching like a 3. Don’t think Gio is giving you that either. Keuchel is the only guy I see making a real upgrade that is out there.
Agreed on Keuchel. Jordan Montgomery should be back mid season who I believe is better than gio at this point
If it weren’t for the fact that Dallas Keuchel has a draft pick attached to him, I’d say the brass would target him. Personally I want him badly, but it won’t happen. Gio Gonzalez is the next best thing available
I’d rather the Yankees get Keuchel too. I dont know what offers he has gotten/turned down but his price has to have been lowered now that we are not far away from opening day
I wonder how much he has lowered his price. Seems to me he may be waiting for that ‘one’ injury to a contending team to make them desperate and hopes they pony up the dough.
This just may have happened. We’ll have to wait and see
Yankee draft pick might be around the 80th pick. Who cares?
Braves should trade Tehran to the yanks. Question is, would the yanks want to make their rotation worse?
But it’s not that bad of an idea. 1 year left, braves fans kinda wanting a change and more prospects up. Got to think the yanks could get him for cheap. 1 top 30 prospects plus a player to be named later or cash (if that). Idk. Gio prob is the better option but it’s a path worth exploring.
I actually like Teheran more than Gio tbh.
With the ST injuries to Braves pitchers, do you think they can afford to trade away depth? I realize he’s not beloved in Atlanta, but he takes the ball, has averaged 32 starts the last 6 years, and has eaten 193 innings every season. He’s actually younger than Gausman and arguably better the last 6 years.
Sure, he’s not a superstar, but there’s value in what he does. Why the big urge to trade him? You need guys like that to win.
AAMOF, as a Phillies’ fan I’d like to see the Braves do it.
Correction: has averaged 193 innings per season.
If that player can be Ellsbury done lol
Phillies needs to sign him immediately.
Steve Pierce votes yes!
I mean…given the injury history of Paxton, the MRI history of Tanaka’s elbow, and the age of CC, is the problem of having six starters actually a problem?
Gio’s career lasts much longer than a Geo Metro.
Unfortunately, Gio’s fastball is slower than a Geo Metro.
Slow since he laid off the PEDs?
Good SP but getting up there in age. (This age-33 season)
Sevy out with shoulder inflammation. Opening day, questionable. Go big or go home. Sign Keuchel.
I think the Yanks will end up with Bartolo Colon. He will keep a triple cheeseburger in his glove.
I think the Mets* will end up with Bartolo Colon.
Fixed.
Can’t sign him, too many families nearby and they all want to show up at the stadium at the same time. Gets really messy on family day.
Tod76 not if CC smells it. Could you imagine the increase in the food budget with CC and Colon and the fights over the last portion of whatever? ?
Gonzalez? Giants.
Being 33 and given the state of the market Gonzalez should seriously consider a fair offer if the Yankees make one. Chances are pretty good – given the fragility of the starters – that he could wind up starting a lot this season. If he’s the long man out of the pen, he’d have to accept that especially if the offer to him is not only fair, but financially acceptable. Again, he’s 33 and should be happy a contender would be interested.
Wanted corbin got gio lolz
Yes let’s consider an offer just because it is the Yankees. What arrogance
Cash
Let’s do that trade we discussed. It’s time.
Elsbury and a fringe prospect for Szamardzia. Let’s give the Shark a shot to figure it out.
I’d love to do that. ANYONE ELSE for Elusbury, or, as I call him,
Yes, the Yankees track record with previous Red Sox centerfielders is not great, LOL
I said this last season and again this off season. Why did they not do more to sure up the rotation at the top. Severino was the only guy without any health issue and now he joins the pack. I keep hearing Paxton, Paxton, Paxton but the guy has thrown 170 innings as his high water mark and he can’t stay healthy. The only positive is they will score as much as the New York Giants offense but give up as much as the New York Jets D.
Some else on the board said it best. The Yankees don’t need another #4/5 SP. Thanks to cash they have that in abundance.
They need an Ace and have needed one for just about a decade now.
That’s ok though for many of you who defend Cash
With all the armchair criticism about Cashman, I’m just a little unclear about a few things:
1: didn’t this team just have a 100 Win season?
2: didn’t Washington overpay for the arguably best SP?
It never ceases to be hilarious reading/hearing complaints about this team because they get bashed for “trying to buy championships” just as much as they get bashed for “not doing what it takes to win a championship”
The whining about “not signing a generational player” when they didn’t sign Manny or Bryce would’ve been compounded with “get a SP” had they signed either/both
Should Cashman mortgage the farm for an Ace
… or should he weather the Sev situation with what he has in the farm?
Is it convenient amnesia that it’s been hit or miss when he’s simply thrown money at a player? Ellsbury is the most used example but the amnesia apparently includes 2009 when CC & Tex weren’t the only players signed … one notoriously got booed consistently.
I can only speak for myself, but when I look at the current roster and see Judge, Torres, Sanchez, Andujar, Frazier, Stanton … the Bullpen … the quality player that is DJ … the low investment made into a possible Tulo comeback … I can’t complain
There’s no argument the rotation needs improvement, but, again, who was/is available who will get the team over the playoff hump? … or should Cashman trade away the massive improvements made in the minors?
The “modern era” comment has been my favorite so far. It’ll be the consistent source of jokes for awhile. Thanks for that gem.
btw:
the team that “only has one ring this century” (another favorite of mine) was called “The Evil Empire” by fans who have no problem when it’s their team who trades blue chip prospects and/or pays massive contracts
It Don’t Mean A Thing As Long As There’s A Ring!
… unless it’s the Yankees
… then “they’re ruining baseball” (yet another fave)
Do front offices like the Dodgers (which has had some jaw dropping rotations recently) catch nearly as much laughable hate?
Seems you are complaining that there is a double standard for the Yankees?
It seems to me that the Yankees and their fans have set the expectations so that double standard exists.
As to your question as to whether the Yankees should mortgage the farm for an ace, my answer would be:
From time to time – yes. Prospects are still just prospects, and they don’t all ever pan out. My Phillies just traded their #1 prospect for JT Realmuto. He may turn out to be another Pedro (I didn’t make those comps – others have) but the probability of that happening is extremely low. The Bosox traded Moncada for Sale. Now they’re WS champs.
Money isn’t the only currency in baseball. Because not all prospects pan out is exactly why they need to be used as currency from time to time to acquire talent.
Yankees have a deep pen and should use the opener strategy with Green 2inn, Holder 2inn, kahnle1, betances 1, ottovino 1, Britton 1 , Chappy close. Also can spot start Loisiga/German for 3-4 innings then run pen. With such a deep pen, there’s enough margin to rotate the arms to stay fresh. Also looks like Sevy misses max a few starts early in the year which may help his late season burn out. Tanaka (underated and great postseason ace) should pitch the season opener. Then Paxton, Happ, openers, bullpen game, and then run CC after he returns from suspension. By Mid April ease Sevy back in. Then ease Monty back late in year as another opener (3-4 inn guy) and replace roster spot for Cessa or German/Los.
in response to your two points
1. winning 100 games is a regular season achievement that usually assures a playoff spot, but as a yankee fan i don’t care. The goal is not a Wc card and then a beat down by Boston. Every year the same 4 teams make the playoffs (yanks, sox, stros, and Cleveland) b/c baseball is divided into a top tier of a few and a bottom tier of many. when it matters they can’t compete b/c they have no SP
2. everyone overpays for SP, everyone. Cash though overpays for everything else. yet that everything else is not as critical as SP. he screwed this up and deserves to beaten down for it. Its his job
I’ve been a Yankee fan ever since the Mets traded my all time favorite player. It didn’t hurt that I lived around and went to elementary & high school walking distance from Yankee Stadium.
I guess all those decades makes me a Yankee Loyalist … but far from a blind one.
I’d never argue SP should be top priority. Everyone has seen this franchise get on the board first and/or put up plenty of runs, only to have the pitching give it right back.
I’ve hated the Rothschild hiring since it was announced and won’t ever back down from it. His track record speaks for itself.
For example, those runs that are given back typically have happened in 1 or 2 innings yet Rothschild & Boone prefer to “let him pitch out of it”
Arguably, that might be fine for the pitcher to think the coaches have faith/confidence in him, but … speaking as someone how has sat in the dugout and watched a lead against a tough pitcher disappear … it’s deflating af
(Note: not implying I played at a level above college ball lol)
Anyway, my ultimate point is teams have been smart with locking up their top arms and there simply hasn’t been a lot available via FA
Add to that things like attaching draft picks and the reality that teams aren’t going to trade their best major/minor league arms without fair compensation … Cashman really hasn’t had a lot of opportunities.
… and let’s not discount the (admittedly superstitious) curse this franchise has had with SP (at least since I’ve been a fan) with Doug Drabek being one brain fart trade I’ll always hate (not so much the Jose Rijo trade because it got us Rickey Henderson: another of my all time favorite players)
Listen, my comment was just a lighthearted vent towards those who hate for hate sake or think Cashman has authorization to fill in blank checks
HOWEVER…
I think they dropped the ball on Manny & Bryce by not selling them better.
It’s well documented they wanted 10+ years, so what’s the harm in pitching them:
5 Years @ $35 per
Sell them on not having to wait to see if touted prospects hit the ground running
Sell them on the endorsement money
Sell them on how much Trout will command in two years and how it will increase their value in five … and how the franchise is going to make an all out attempt to sign Trout if he hits FA
Maybe they both sign
Maybe one signs
Maybe neither signs
It still should’ve been attempted because Luxury Tax is what it is and it’s not going anywhere … so make lemonade (then sell it st the Stadium for $20 a cup lol)
Agree in principal as you make sense
My point which people seem to fight is that the buck stops with him. All of it from player development, to coaching to player acquisition……
He is allowed to spend 225-235 mil every year on a team and simply can’t get it done. As much as a risk corbin is at 6 140 how are we better off with CC and Gardy for 19 mil?
It may be harder to acquire top flight pitching but it doesn’t seem to stop Boston, Houston, the Nats or dodgers…..
1) how did you come up with “beat down”? Boston kicked their asses in one game, the Yanks lost the other two by one run. They also won a game. The better team won, but it was hardly a beat down.
2) Not including the wild card game loser, the Angels, A’s, Astros, Blue Jays, Indians, Orioles, Rangers, Rays, Red Sox, Royals, Tigers and Yankees all made the playoffs at some point during the 2012 to 2016 seasons. That’s 12 out of the 15 AL teams. It’s only the same teams if you just started watching in ’17.
3) SP is important, clearly, but not every overpay works out. For every Scherzer there is a Grienke and a Hernandez. I for one am glad that they did not overpay for starting pitching. Corbin’s deal will most likely be a bust.
4) “deserves to be beaten down”? Taking a bit far, you’re giving Yankees fans a bad rep. I’m more than fine with a playoff spot every year, and then we can take our chances in the playoffs.
1. that series was not close. They didn’t win once at the stadium either
In Game one they were down 5-0 after 3 (happ 2 Ip 5 ER- awful)
In Game two we won and Tanaka pitched well 5 Ip one ER
In Game three as you noted its was a two touchdown win
In Game 4 they were down 4-0 after 3 again. CC 3 ip 3 Er
so for a series that last 36 innings the Yankees actually only had the lead once and for 9 innings. That is not good and a beat down. Yankee SP which again is my beef with cash made it out of the 3rd inning once. Boston coasted in their 3 wins.
2. don’t disagree but the game is changing and the reality is that the Sox stros and yanks are in great shape and Cleveland is too because the division is more AAAA than MLB. dont bet against the dodgers or cubs either
3. greinke pitched to a 4.8 war last year, 207 innings, and had an NL era of 3.31 while striking out 200…. same type numbers as seve but way better than any other yankee SP including Paxton last year.
4. I grew up in the bronx and I don’t like seeing the Yankees lose to teams b/c the GM failed to get the one thing we needed. The stros and sox have been better than the Yankees for one reason only. they have not been shy about going for it with SP. Cash has and it has cost us.
these are facts. I’m not apologetic for wanting a WS. Red Sox fans aren’t.
The series was closer than you think. Yankees were a Gardner Game 4 miss on Kinsler’s double. He catches that ball, more than likely that series goes to Game 5. So yeah, series was closer than you think.
c’mon, really? by the 3rd inning in 3 of the 4 games the sox were up by 4 and the yanks had pulled their starter.
It wasn’t close. the Houston series 2 years ago was close
Gio would do okay in a #3 or #4 role for a National League team. I don’t see him having success in the AL.
Yankees have a deep pen and should use the opener strategy with Green 2inn, Holder 2inn, kahnle1, betances 1, ottovino 1, Britton 1 , Chappy close. Also can spot start Loisiga/German for 3-4 innings then run pen. With such a deep pen, there’s enough margin to rotate the arms to stay fresh. Also looks like Sevy misses max a few starts early in the year which may help his late season burn out. Tanaka (underated and great postseason ace) should pitch the season opener. Then Paxton, Happ, openers, bullpen game, and then run CC after he returns from suspension. By Mid April ease Sevy back in. Then ease Monty back late in year as another opener (3-4 inn guy) and replace roster spot for Cessa or German/Los.
Agree
Brian Cashman is terrible.
he is a C+ (he did develop a good farm that has helped), but his inability to make the right move for a top SP is infuriating. Yet somehow people here defend him against a consistent pattern of missed opportunity after missed opportunity….
Plus what other GM has a club that raked in 619 mil last year (per Forbes)
Yeah, he recently traded:
Gallagos and Shreve for Voit and international slot money
Greene for Didi
Murphy for Hicks
Chapman for Torres – then they got Chapman right back
Addressed the starting pitching by re-signing Haap and trading for Paxton
Did not make a mistake with Machado
Also the only GM to win the WS his first three years. There is some luck involved there. But both major trades he made during that time period helped (Clemens and Justice).
He has made mistakes, all GM’s do, including Epstein. But the pros far outweigh the cons.
I’m not anointing him the best GM in baseball, but “terrible” and “C+” is either a poor attempt at trolling, or you’re watching a different game.
remind me how much they have spent the last 10 years and how many world series they have been in?
how many has Theo won in that time frame?
the Yankee expectation is the WS not the WC- he has failed and mostly because of SP. Its on him.
all else is excuses
this is why you pay the money for Dallas and not serivino.. they paid too much too soon. Should have just given him what he wanted to avoid arbitration but not an extension. He’s not proven- not a 2nd 1/2 pitcher, yet. Also seems to have a torn rotator cuff no one is reporting… likely our for the season.
Is Severino’s shoulder worse than they let on to help them negotiate with other pitchers?
Severino tweaked his shoulder signing the extension.
If Gio is smart, he stays in the national league, until the DH arrives.
If he can be signed at for a reasonable short term contract makes sense. Yankee starting pitching is filled with pitcher’s with health issue’s.When CC goes on Dl.and Tanaka joins him. Who’s left Happ, Paxton, Cessa,Loggy,and Germain ???.All of the above are not the most durable either.
Sign him to a one year deal now if the dollars work. There will always be injuries and the luxury tax penalty is minimal. If the team waits for an injury, he could be off the board.
Give chance to adams
Our “mlb ready” pitchers stink. King was who I wanted to see b4 injury. We gave no one. Cessa abd German are not good abd johnny L is too small to be a thrower. He needs lessons from Mo who was slight too
I wish the Angels would’ve taken a chance on Gio.
Can’t be a good sign for Yankee fans. Clearly, there’s more going on than they’re letting known.
Gonzalez is gonna need few weeks to get up to speed. If Severino only needs “two weeks” and Sabathia is due back sooner, then Gonzalez wouldn’t be needed. Unless. . .
There have been reports that Severino will be back in May. Much longer than the initial two weeks
Sevy has a torn rotator cuff. Surgery will be announced when another pitcher is acquired.
He will return in 2020.
What happened to James Shields?
he’s trash
I’m sure he’s pitching a big game somewhere.
Take it
Even if Yanks get Gio he won’t be ready until end of April at this point so no reason to offer more then 1 year at 4-5 mill max.
If they are that worried about money, attach your best prospect to Ellsbury and ship him off to Pitt, Balt, or Mia.
Ellsbury has a FNTC. Would he agree to be traded to a dumpster fire of a team?
Depends on whats happening behind the scenes. For example, what if it has gotten heated between Ellsbury and Yankees staff?
We can sign gio and dfa happ. Save a ton of money and get a guy who can pitch under pressure
mets will sign him…3 yrs..28 mil
I think he takes it
Cashman is trying to get a deal, picking through the dumpster?
Gonzales deserves a decent offer. Give it to him. Sheesh, you’re the Yankees for Pete’s sakes.
Carlos Gonzalez just signed a minor league contract for 1 million, he has a projected War of 1.6, Gio has a projected WAR of 1.1 .
I was afraid of this. Yanks should keep away from Gonzalez and Keuchel. Now is a good time to test your kids… German, Cessa, and Lasagna once and for all. Throw them all in the pool and see who floats.
And if the Yanks end up missing the playoffs, just blame Ellsbury.
Easy squeezy.
The most important Gio Gonzalez question is will the B Bombers give him a start in the ALCS? Because they have a playoff spot guaranteed for the next 5 years.
Why is this news? I’m sure plenty of teams have. But when the Yankees make an offer it’s news. Ridiculous
Carlos Gonzalez just signed a minor league contract for 1 million, he has a projected War of 1.6, Gio has a projected WAR of 1.1 .
If I’m Gio, I’ll pass because by the all-star break there will not be a spot for him on the roster.
Psh. Unless money is on the table elsewhere, you take it and bank on yourself. Take money when u can, baseball doesn’t last forever.
“Gio! Come play baseball for money!”
“…I’ll think about it.”
Wrong answer.
If severino is injured only weeks after his extension wouldnt pr shouldnt nia injury void his fesl
Is Gio that much better than Chance Adams or any other pitcher in AAA? Gio needs a new grip or pitch, or else he will be eaten alive in the AL East.