FEBRUARY 25, 6:19pm: Kershaw tried to play catch today but “didn’t feel great,” Roberts told reports including MLB.com’s Ken Gurnick (via Twitter), Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register (Twitter link), and Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times (also on Twitter). The organization still doesn’t have plans for an MRI and will wait at least a few more days before allowing Kershaw to attempt throwing again.
“It’s not ideal,” Roberts acknowledged. “You’re hoping when he picks up a ball that he comes out of it feeling better. So obviously it’s not ideal. But we’ll deal with whatever comes our way.”
FEBRUARY 24, 9:50pm: Kershaw suggests the shoulder discomfort may stem from an attempt to add velocity this spring, per Bill Plunkett of the Orange County Register. No MRI was taken, but since being shut down Kershaw has been taking anti-inflammatories to improve the feeling in his shoulder, which appears to be effective. The plan is to have Kershaw resume his throwing activities on Monday.
12:54pm: Roberts provided some more details on Kershaw’s condition today, telling reporters (including Castillo and The Athletic’s Pedro Moura) that the issue is with Kershaw’s throwing shoulder. The southpaw has been working to increase his velocity this offseason, which Roberts speculated as a possible contributor to the soreness. There doesn’t appear to be any major concern about Kershaw, as Roberts said the hurler won’t be undergoing an MRI and is still expected to throw again within a few days’ time. Kershaw is still expected to be on the mound for the Dodgers on Opening Day.
FEBRUARY 22: The Dodgers have shut down star hurler Clayton Kershaw indefinitely, manager Dave Roberts tells Jorge Castillo of the Los Angeles Times. The venerable southpaw is dealing with an unspecified health issue that Roberts would describe only as an “arm kind of thing.”
Initial signals from the organization are that there’s nothing to worry about at this point. Kershaw says he’s “just going to take a few days right now” and adds that he expects to resume throwing in short order, Bill Plunkett of the Orange County-Register tweets.
In Roberts’s view, too, this is just an early pause “to just kind of step away, give him a couple days.” That said, he acknowledged that he “can’t say right now” just when Kershaw will be ready to ramp back up.
Clearly, there’s no reason to rush to judgment about what might be going on here. Given Kershaw’s recent health history, there’s also some reason for added concern. Both men were rather circumspect about the underlying issue, declining to clarify whether Kershaw’s prior back and shoulder problems were involved. For the time being, then, we’ll just have to wait to see how things progress and await further word.
xabial
Get better soon, Kershaw
dimitrios in la
He might not. Guy has been injured A LOT now.
PopeMarley
Yea, back, and now arm. How’s that contract looking?
kenleyfornia2
Maybe we should see when the regular season actually starts what the situation is? He wasnt brought back for the Cactus leauge
bigkempin
Well considering ST just started….not bad at all. It’s not like this was the season opener and he’s down for TJS.
Balk
Bad part is, he worked out pretty religiously to get that heater back up. May have some dead arm issues, hope that’s all that’s wrong for the hall of famer!
Juicemane 2019
30 mil a year for maybe 120 innings on average i say, pretty expensive
politicsNbaseball
Dodgers aren’t a poor team so it really doesn’t hurt them
Get Tased at CBP
If the ERA is sub-3, then the 120 IP is acceptable. Dodgers don’t need him to be the best player anymore.
antibelt
Yeah they do. First round after wild card is a 5 game playoff. If he’s not pitching 2 of those games, their chances go down substantially.
trout27
I would argue that Buehler might be the better choice in the five game series.
frankiegxiii
Along with Hill. It’s spring training, and they said he’d be back in a couple days, not a couple years.
jekporkins
Huh? Yes they do. They are paying him $30 million a year to be an ace and anchor that staff. I highly doubt they are expecting 120 IP a year. C’mon man.
Bocephus
The things people say to try and justify something…smh
bradthebluefish
Luckily that contract is only a three year extension at high AAV. Still the best pitcher in the game when healthy.
leftcoaster
Exactly
rez2405 2
But to be honest and fair.. the best pitchers in the game dont get consistently rocked in the playoffs year after year after year.
And his 4.32 ERA career in the postseason of over 150 innings back this up
luvbeisbol
Yes.
frankiegxiii
Yeah, Chris Sale isn’t one of the best pitchers in the game because he has a 5.76 ERA in the postseason…
Ejemp2006
How much more does he need to get into Hall? Peak is soooo high but counting stats say he need much much more stats.
apbadogs
By most metrics he’s already almost a lock Hall of Famer.
Solar Flare
He’s a first ballot Hall of Fame lock already and became eligible for Hall of Fame consideration in 2017, because that was his 10th season.
TheMick
I live how people just throw out random numbers like 120 innings. In the past three seasons Kershaw’s spent time on the DL but still averaged 162 IP with his lowest output at 149. Now all of a sudden outa nowhere he’s only good for 120 innings…ok.
BlueSkyLA
He lost three weeks to tendonitis last year. That issue is acute, not chronic. The chronic issue is his back. If they’d said his back was giving him trouble I’d be a lot more concerned. They are going to treat him like the crown jewels, which he is.
oldoak33
Stop making sense
towinagain
As a Padres fan, totally appreciate what Kershaw has done, even against us. The guy is a stud! Hope for a good recovery!
sf2win
You’d likely think differently if the Padres ever faced Kerplunk in the postseason
padreforlife
Like that Kerplunk! That’s his story all time regular season all time great in postseason he’s Kerplunk
padreforlife
Great on regular season Kerplunk in postseason
Joe Scuri
Says a fan of team that hasn’t sniffed a single playoff game in YEARS.
SFGiantsGallore
TowIagain I couldn’t agree more. Guy is AMAZING. Could retire right now and he’d be a first ballot HOF. And the hook on his curveball has been my teams demise for years lol.
WarrenSpahn
very generous of you, Padres fan….
imgman09
……A lot of Miles on that Body,just saying
canocorn
Makes me Kind of Blue
pr0ject2501
Dang homie, downvotes on a well wishing?
Some petty people around here.
neurogame
I can’t believe there are more down votes than up votes for wishing Kershaw to get better. Are the drecks of the internet waters really drowning out the positivity today?
SargentDownvote
As another Padres fan, I hope Clayton takes a long walk off a short pier.
I know Clayton’s regular season career numbers wouldn’t be so good if he faced the likes of Carmelo Martinez and Ryan Klesko 18 to 21 games a year.
pr0ject2501
Who and who??
pr0ject2501
“As a padre fan, I have ill wishes toward another player”
-The most San Diego sports fan thing ever
*sent from San Diego
mdbaseball05
@Sox-Yanks….. What? I don’t even know where to begin. I dislike the Dodgers too, but I never want anyone to get hurt.
Carmelo Martinez? The guy that posted a lifetime BA of .245, .337 OBP, and 108 HR’s over 9 years? You are just silly. Klesko was better, but he faces much better players already in the likes of Arenado, Goldy (as a DBack), etc. Just a strange sample of guys to pull from when there are so many better players in that division already.
Kershaw has near HOF stats already. I’m just baffled by this in general.
southbeachbully
How can anyone down vote a “Get better soon” comment? Smh
dionls
Can we get contract details with these articles?
We are nerds
xabial
Originally, my post said “good thing he got extended.” but I thought that was trashy.
I just want him to get better. He’s a fun pitcher to watch and I’m not even a Dodger fan.
cubsfan2489
You almost had my convinced you were turning a corner X. Then you made it a point to say what you “originally” said. Proved me wrong. Still the same. The fact you had to say that, indeed is still trashy.
ZabbiaI
Not likely. For some reason he has this strange misconception that people here actually care about his opinion.
clepto
love it
LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngels
Haha. I get the feeling that everyone on here actually DOES care about his opinion. Every time I read an article, Xabial gets the most feedback on his comments. Also, look at half of everyone’s usernames. I’m pretty sure the most of you want to grow up to be just like Xabial haha. That or not grow up at all. Hit me with those downvotes lmao.
antibelt
Could of replied on original thread, but that’s not Xabial’s way. Lol
Grizalt
Inb4 Tommy John
dugdog83
With only 106 comments so far on a potential major injury to Kershaw, you can tell this is no surprise to anyone.
Goose
I saw Kershaw pitch in Atlanta last summer. His stuff was as nasty as when I saw Pedro Martinez pitched. You could tell something was really wrong in the playoffs. I would not be surprised if he misses a good chunk of the season at some point.
Ry.the.Stunner
Something is always wrong with Kershaw in the playoffs.
PopeMarley
Good burn bruh…
semut
Haha as a Dodger fan, that hurt. I lol’d, but it hurt
spudchukar
Matt Adams. Just rubbing salt into that wound.
Ejemp2006
Leg hitch in delivery makes him best but unfortunately also makes him broken.
bigalcathey
I traded Acuna in a deal for Kershaw in a keeper league last spring and knew deep down I’d regret it for ever more
Goose
I hate making those type of deals. You get the stud at perfectly the wrong time. I can’t remember the player he dealt but he got back Kile. A week later Kile passed away in his sleep.
Chicks Dig the Longball
Bruh, 3 years ago I traded for Yordano Ventura 3 weeks before he passed away.
MiserablePadreFan
YES!! F the doyers!! I hope it’s just a strained forearm and he doesn’t miss any time but is much less effective because of it.
mrshyguy99
Ok? So what a hurt Kershaw would of hurt the dodgers in the past but not so much now. You forget they have a young guy name walker who will be the dodgers ace in the future if not now
Chicks Dig the Longball
Don’t forget about Julio Urias.
Mikel Grady
You forgot walker can only pitch every fifth day . Can’t pitch them all. That’s why they lost World Series last 2 years
angels fan 3
Cheering for someone being injured ? There’s something seriously wrong with people
22Leo
His parents failed. That is the real reason he is miserable.
MiserablePadreFan
Oh come on you little pansy, I only wished for a minor ailment. Wasn’t like I wished for TJS… which would be awesome btw
Harwood
Yup, name checks out.
El Kabong
Miserable burger flipper jealous of somebody else’s success.
neurogame
I blame Jussie Smollett.
“I am forever changed… I’m an advocate. I respect too much the people, who I am now one of those people, who have been attacked in any way. You do such a disservice when you lie about things like this.”
frankiegxiii
Classy comment, I can see why you’re miserable.
ReverieDays
Kershaw is hurt. Also, water is wet.
petfoodfella
Water isn’t wet. Water is a liquid that leaves you feeling wet. But it isn’t wet.
BrewersMVP08
damn. herpes got em.
canocorn
That’s disrespectful to herpes
biffpocoroba
Well, it’s not fatigue, so there’s a legitimate reason for concern. Hopefully taking 7-10 days away from active work helps.
There’ll be domino effects if he misses several months this season. The division gets immediately more competitive in light of recent and pending developments.
PopeMarley
There’s only two legitimate teams in the NL West, the Dodgers, and Rockies.
SargentDownvote
As a Padres fan, I flagged your comment to the moderators. You will hear from them shortly.
captainsalty
Are there any teams you aren’t a fan of?
fred-3
The Dodgers have a near .600 win % in games with Kershaw on the DL since 2014
davengmusic
Lincecum and Cain down in LA, doin’ some things…
spudchukar
I would hope AAA offers something better.
Harwood
Even the Quakes have something better to offer than that.
kenleyfornia2
Let the over reactions begin.
bigkempin
ST just started so no need to jump to conclusions. He hasn’t been throwing much the past 4 months so it could just be general soreness. I read other reports where he made it through the BP session but he wasn’t happy with how it went.
bravesfan88
Unfortunately l, I’m afraid if it was just general soreness, then they’d report that. The report itself, lends me to think they might be worried there’s more to it..
spudchukar
Yeah, it is reading between the lines, but it sure seems like there is some legitimate concerns.
MasterShake
Given his injury history I’m sure they’re all going to be extra cautious
carlote
oh oh, maybe done for the season
James1955
Build a young core with the farm system that can compete for a while. Fill holes with vets on short contracts. You lose more times than you win with vets.
mrshyguy99
In seasons past I’ll worry about Kershaw health. But with the depth of the rotation and walker showing he can be a ace. Dodgers will be fine if Kershaw had to miss time
Balk
Hill is commonly on the DL same for Ryu. Not a lot of wiggle room in that rotation for all the problems they’ve had with those three.
spudchukar
Plus Keukel would not only blow up the cap plans, he is another lefty, which let’s face it isn’t ideal for the Bums.
frankiegxiii
Ferguson, Santana, Stewart, Stripling, and Urias are five MLB ready pitchers available for when guys are on the DL, plus the Dodgers will make move when necessary as the season progresses, they have wiggle room and then some.
Sinhalo75
Dodgers already off on the wrong foot. Pollock instead of Harper and now this.
mrshyguy99
Dodgers have soild depth plus a young guy name walker they will be fine and f Harper there a reason he not sign yet no one willing to meet his demands
Sinhalo75
Lol pretty salty, they lost so much more than they replaced as a matter of fact, just forget another WS appearance
kenleyfornia2
They have replaced every player that left via free agency or internally. And please dont try to pass off Matt Kemp as a loss it just looks dumb
Sinhalo75
Lol handful of question marks, no world series 2019 sorry
kenleyfornia2
Every team in baseball has question marks. Thats just a lazy argument for fools
Sinhalo75
They lost much more than they replaced, lol Pollock God luck creating healthy hahahaha sorry no world series in 2019
captainsalty
Tell me how the cellar in the AL West looks come September
Sinhalo75
It’ll probably look like San Diego like most seasons. Lol Crippleshaw
spudchukar
Names please on their starting pitching depth. Not sure I would agree there.
itsgood2btheking
SP Depth?
Kershaw
Buehler
Ryu
Hill
Maeda
Stripling
Urias
Ferguson
Harwood
May, Santana, Alvarez, White, Gonsolin waiting down on the farm as well
Sinhalo75
Many question marks
James1955
Sinhalo75. Can Harper pitch?
BrewCrew1302
He can barely hit .250, dont think he can pitch, let alone hit on a consistent basis
xabial
“He barely hit .250”?
2018 Harper also:
“Led both leagues in walks.”
“Belted 34 home runs.”
“Wrapped up age-25 season, prior to FA.”
“2 years younger than when Heyward hit FA.”
its_happening
Opposing teams have no problem walking him knowing walks won’t hurt them. Clearly those walks didn’t help them win games. More hitting probably would have. So go ahead and lead the league in walks. Won’t help.
Chicks Dig the Longball
Man, when Xabial is on the side of reason you know you said something stupid.
stymeedone
Guess that means he will be as good as Heyward, but at more years, twice the price, and without the defense.
BlueJayFan1515
Also, was way better than Heyward ever was.
Sinhalo75
can Pollock stay healthy lolololol
Sinhalo75
Lol can Pollock make up the 80+ HRs they lost between Puig, Kemp, Grandal, Machado, Dozier… long and short answer: both no
Basebal101
You know NOTHING about baseball Sin. Go away.
captainsalty
Just another sad red hat…makes real Angels fans look like morons
Sinhalo75
Lol idgaf about ant LA team, neither making the series this season,neither
Sinhalo75
Lol long and short answer… no, Pollock cannot makeup all that lost production… but hey they got Russell Martin also so that will definitely chip away some, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
kershawsgrandma22
Clayton just called me. It’s his elbow. I’m just glad he signed that extension so he could keep taking care of me
Black Ace57
Not and arm kind of thing! I’ve lost 3 family members to the arm kind of thing!
chippahawk
Does not sound good.. This is why signing SPs to over 2 years is a gamble unfortunately.
Z-A 2
At least he is only making a little over a million per start.
MLBTR Commenter
Keuchel to LA
kenleyfornia2
If something horrible has happened to Kershaw then possibly.
Woods Rider
As long as he pitches faster than you did lol
James1955
They always said injuries are part of the game. You win the World Series in the hot stove league, then you get injuries.
basebaIl1600
Kershaw is one of few Dodgers I like, I’d hate for him to not start the opener against Bum. Was supposed to happen last year, Bum got injured, Blach surprisingly outpitched Kershaw, but I’d really love to see a Bumgarner V Kershaw matchup.
spudchukar
Yeah hard to root against Kershaw. Much easier versus the Bums.
csspackler
This is definitely not good.
Woods Rider
In the words of Fat Amy from Pitch Perfect: “Whoop there it is” lol
In all seriousness though, I hope he’s ok.
mike156
I liked the use of the word “venerable” to describe Kershaw. Brought me back to old Kung Fu episodes
canocorn
Snatch the baseball from Kershaw’s hand, grasshopper.
doxiedevil
Hope it is just spring and nagging little issues after a winter break, Kershaw is one guy who lets his performances do his talking. He is good for the game, a true quality talent worth seeing pitch against your team, for the Dodgers he is their ace.
Hope he will be 100% this season.
em650r
Sign Dallas
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Man… I’m not a Dodgers fan, but I AM a baseball fan and truly enjoy watching Kershaw work. This story has to be one of the worst things Dodgers’ fans could hear.
Hoping the injury is nothing serious and Kershaw gets back to form… except, of course, when he pitches against the Cardinals. Then it’s okay if he’s lousy.
Chicks Dig the Longball
Julio Urias get ready to ascend to stardom!
mrpadre19
He’s got “an arm thing”…..but nothing to worry about.
OK
spudchukar
Yeah CK meet TJ.
Frisco500
I would never wish TJ on such a great pitcher. Even if it is a doyer.. smh
sfjackcoke
Scott Boras just got a chubby with this post on Kershaw.
Good thing they have that taxi squad of SP…. oh wait that was the 2017 team. Good thing they have all that bullpen depth with a rotation full of 5IP starters… wait that was 2017 too.
Can anyone say with conviction the 2019 team is better than the 2018 squad? Clearly 2018 team wasn’t as good as 2017 as LAD never filled the role Brandon Morrow provided on that team. I mean it wasn’t like he wasn’t lights out in virtually every post season game in 2017 until he hit a wall in WS Game 5
Woods Rider
Boras is licking his chops about now.
bluemarc
sign kuikel now if that’s how you spell it lol
kenleyfornia2
Thats closer to the Japanese guy that signed with Seattle
24TheKid
That’s not how you spell it, so the Dodgers will not be signing him.
Erik
Who cares
thomasg2018
Get rid of the hop!
Psychguy
Someone explain how Pollock, Kelly & Martin make the Dodgers better than last year’s time that had the performances of Puig, Kemp, Wood & Grandal? How is it that Dodger fan seems to think their team is better this year?
kenleyfornia2
Kemp is a 1 dimensional player that disappeared in the crutial part of the season. Only reason he was an all star was because of a fan vote. Wood was buried on the depth chart so they have more than enough to fill his shoes. Pollock for Puig is a wash. Grandal will hurt but its not like Yaz was posey with the bat. Kelly helps the bullpen. You also have players who were injured last season coming back, guys like Muncy and Freese for a full season
El Kabong
Puig and Kemp are minus defenders. Pollock and Verdugo are improvements in that area. With nine solid candidates for the rotation, Wood is not needed. Buehler, Ferguson, Urias, Muncy and Freese from day 1. Turner missed the first 40 games a year ago. Also, the best shortstop in the NL returns from an injury. Compare to the 2017 roster when Utley and Forsythe were sharing second base, Ethier and Culberson on the roster along with Darvish. The 2019 team figures to be far deeper.
BlueSkyLA
Puig is a minus defender? That’s a news flash from the future.
neoncactus
Most Dodgers fans I know, myself included, don’t think they’re better this year. I do think they’re better than the other teams in the NL West.
El Kabong
The current roster is better than the 2017 team that won 104 games.
Psychguy
What about catcher?
captainsalty
Grandal let us down when it mattered most
VinScullysSon
I think you forgot someone named Corey Seager.
Basebal101
If you followed the teamand watched 150 games like most of us it’s pretty clear.
puigpower
Corey is a big reason. But they’ll get a trade during the season when they need it and win the West. The formula is pretty clear now.
trussell
I’m a Giants fan but think very highly of Kershaw. Love to watch him pitch. He’s not his normal self in the post season imho. His wind up is fun to see any game. Even though Giants fans probably celebrate this news, I don’t. Of course I grew up in LA as a Dodger fan. Turncoat! Get better soon Mr Kershaw (who will DEFINITELY be in the Hall of Fame!!!
Basebal101
Class response. The sport and Dodger’s fans appreciate it.
yamsi1912
Loldodgers
SargentDownvote
DRoberts: “Kershaw has been shut down for the time-being.”
Reporter: “What’s wrong with him?”
DRoberts: “Aww, nothing important really. It’s just his arm.”
KF
“In Roberts view, too, this…” is really obfuscating. You could simply say “Roberts also views this…” and it reads way better.
WarrenSpahn
yes, that’s more betterer….
differentbears
He’s going to continue his workouts without throwing for a few days. Initially I read that Kershaw wasn’t happy with the way he was throwing, so they were shutting his throwing program down for a bit.
Didn’t sound too serious to me (or even like an injury), but it also sounds like the info evolved into a possible injury.
Frisco500
Lots of innings. Lots of pitches. Zero to show except for personal accolades and a laughable post season history. He might come around and have another good regular season and his usual choke job in October.
El Kabong
Zero to show for it? What have you done with your life that tops it?
fred-3
nothing to show for it lmao
kenleyfornia2
Imagine saying a player who is going to Cooperstown “nothing to show for it”. He could never win a ring and have more to show for his career than 99 percent of players.
Yankeepatriot
By your logic Barry bonds has nothing to show for his career …….
Frisco500
Barry was a choker until his final postseason. He wouldnt fit with the gritty all heart Champions of 10 12 14. Neither would Kershaw. Kershaw and Barry should go bowling.
captainsalty
You should take a long walk off of a short pier
fred-3
Disgusting thread. I never understand why people are happy over an athlete’s injury, erival fans.
puigpower
People are strange, aren’t they? The worst things I’ve read are from Dodgers “fans”.
canocorn
People, … they’re the worst.
24TheKid
I haven’t seen any disgusting comments on this thread, all I see is you trying to create drama.
captainsalty
Maybe you should scroll slower
24TheKid
Or maybe we have different ideas of what a disgusting comment is. I would consider a comment disgusting if they were happy he was hurt and was hoping it would worsen. But I haven’t seen any of those.
captainsalty
Again, go up to top of comments and scroll down…slower
blublud
Used to much when he was new. Just be ready for game 2 of W.S.
duke1776
Mister injury prone strikes again!!! Worse offseason move by any team. The dude still needs back surgery to go with his arm trouble.
Kennypowers999
Well Clayton will probably be need tommy John some time this season. Dodgers are going to struggle this season again. Muncy awesome year was last year. He will struggle like Taylor did last year. The dodgers will juggle SP around. The bullpen is still a question mark. Toles is not going to play much this year.
Yankeepatriot
Yea there is no way muncy repeats last season but it will be great for the dodgers if he does, they need him too
puigpower
I hope we struggle to a WS again. I like your definition of struggle.
captainsalty
Yeah we struggled hard lol
twentyforty
Tommy John now is performed on the shoulder too? Who knew?
Senioreditor
This is a very bad sign and the Dodgers tend to understate injuries. I’m not expecting much if anything from him this season and guessing some procedure may actually be necessary. I know they have depth but the depth is not reliable. I’m hoping they trade from their youth/depth for more pitching.
BlueSkyLA
What procedure would that be? Kershaw’s chronic issue, the one that’s cost him time in most of the last four seasons, is his back. That problem hasn’t resulted in a procedure. Even if the tendonitis he experienced last year has recurred, would that call for a procedure?
The Dodgers position on reporting player health is to report as little as possible. I don’t see that as a tendency to understate so much as a policy of not turning over their cards unnecessarily. Of the things I don’t like about this FO, that isn’t one of them. It seems like a wise and perfectly justified policy. You usually make good sense, but I’m afraid I don’t see it here.
Joe Scuri
@senioreditor, you sure seem to have it all figured out, professor…
Yankeepatriot
As good as he has been they should have let Keyshawn walk. He’s lost 8 mph off his fastball the last 3-4 years and has had back/arm problems. His stuff will only continue to decline too
differentbears
Kershaw threw 94 consistently (I swear he was a machine, because he hit 94 seemingly every fastball for 5 years), and could touch 95-96 if he really tried (or dropped down a la Rich Hill). Now he’s at 90-91, and once in a while he could hit 92-93 on a pitch.
He hasn’t lost 8 mph. From what I’ve seen, his slider is more of a cutter at times, and his fastball and slider/cutter are too close in terms of shape and speed. His slightly slower slider had more depth, diving down and in to righties and down and away to lefties. Now it doesn’t dive as much, and the speed is close enough to his fastball that guessing wrong doesn’t hurt the hitters like it used to.
WarrenSpahn
let’s be real, Kershaw is not as good as he used to be, when he was the best pitcher in the game. Dodgers just need him to be healthy and give them a lot of quality starts. Dallas Keuchel is starting to look like a really good idea….
BlueSkyLA
Who has ever been as good as Kershaw used to be?
captainsalty
Kershaw at not as good as he used to be is still better than 95% of anybody else so I will gladly take what the first ballot HOF gives us…he deserves to hang em up wearing Dodger Blue
csspackler
According to Fangraphs Kershaw’s velocity averaged 94.4 in his first two seasons (2008 and 2009) and has never reached that level since. But the loss was nominal through 2015, when he averaged 94.3. Since then he has steadily declined to last year’s average of 91.4.
As a result, he’s gone to the fastball less and less. Last year he threw the fastball exactly 40.0% (it was 53.4% in 2015). Correspondingly, he’s increased his use of the slider from 27.6% in 2015 to 41.9% last year. His curve has maintained at between 16 and 18%. His changeup has virtually disappeared.
In other words, as he’s aged both chronologically and innings pitched, he’s adapted. I don’t know if this speaks directly to the increasing physical breakdowns.
BlueSkyLA
The change is Kershaw’s mystery pitch. The mystery is why he hasn’t developed it more. In baseball you seldom get to ride home on the horse that brung you, especially not pitchers. He’s going to need to open his mind to developing a different approach if he hopes to pitch deep into his 30s. Any questions? Ask Rich Hill.
puigpower
We did let Keyshawn walk.
OilCanLloyd
Stroman
Matt Ragusa
As much as I hate to say it, I fear that Kershaw is destined to become the next Sandy Koufax.
Central Valley
Kershaw is a class act and a outstanding pitcher. Hall of Famer. However, Kershaw is fortunate the Dodgers extended him. He’s been paid a ton of money and looks like he’s on a quick, steep decline. I hope I’m wrong.
Bumgarner never got his payday and was truly deserving. That is a travesty.
Hondo_Lane
The Kershaw decline has shifted into another gear now. The doodgers couldn’t win that championship when Kershaw was in his prime. Difficult to imagine them doing it in Kershaw’s decline.
MWeller77
There are some other pitchers on the staff who aren’t too bad…kid named Walker is pretty good, might even be the ace this year
22Leo
If the Dodgers aren’t even going with a MRI yet, I don’t see much reason to worry. Teams go straight to a MRI for very minor injuries. Things could change, but at this point a lot of posters here are simply overreacting.
Hondo_Lane
MRI’s seldom provide a definitive identification of a problem.
It’s normal for a great pitcher’s decline to be sudden and steep, ie: Steve Carlton, Sandy Koufax, Cliff Lee, Roy Halliday and now it’s Clayton Kershaw’s time. No one escapes mortality.
22Leo
The point is that teams go with a MRI if there is even a small cause for concern. I didn’t say it definitively identifies a problem.
petfoodfella
This is def a cause for concern given the $$ and the injury history.
Hondo_Lane
It’s sad to see adding how complicated shoulder issues can be to the already degenerative spine issues.
canocorn
You only get one Kershaw per Universe.
pr0ject2501
Not true!
/signed DC Comics
swifty1
Think the Dodgers should have signed Keuchel. It depends on what we have to give up for him. Not Berlinger!
MWeller77
Keuchel’s an FA, so we would only have to give up a draft pick since he received a qualifying offer.
pr0ject2501
Dude, he’s a free agent. Pay attention.
Ricky Adams
Makes perfect sense. Lets try to get a 30 yo pitcher that has injury issues and is already best in majors to add velocity.
MWeller77
I love Kershaw, but De Grom and Scherzer were definitely better last year, and I’d argue that Kluber, Sale, and Nola were better as well
mdbaseball05
@MWeller77 I mean, those are all of the top pitchers in baseball in general. Either way, you’re still comparing Aces, and all of them would be the Ace on any team they joined. I’m not quite throwing Nola in the category with those guys yet though. He is incredibly good and the Ace of the Phillies, but the track records of the others are ridiculous.
Kershaw has stepped back the last two years in some categories, but Nola’s best FIP year of his 4 year career (3.01 in 2018) is still half a point higher than Kershaw’s 11 year average (2.64).
DougieJones
Looks like trouble in la la land
scottaz
The really good pitchers, like Greg Maddux and Zack Greinke, don’t need high velocity to excel.
James1955
Pitchers arms are fragile. Humans evolved for survival, not the modern times of sports.
22jclark
pretty difficult to increase velocity in your 30’s, 10 years into a MLB career. Tread lightly.
Melchez
“pretty difficult to increase velocity in your 30’s, 10 years into a MLB career. Tread lightly.”
You’d be surprised what those “anti-inflammatory” drugs can do.
pr0ject2501
“pretty difficult to increase velocity in your 30’s, 10 years into a MLB career. Tread lightly.”
-Sincerely, not Roger Clemens dealer
ayrbhoy
Sweet!!! Might be able to get him as an 8th rd pick or higher! Be my SP4 Clayton
Thronson5
They need to get another pitcher in free agency or trade. Yea they have depth but they need a top of the line starter.
SargentDownvote
Clayton has lost so much velocity that he was thought to be hurling knuckleballs this spring. It was also rumored that he was screaming and yelling at a baseball to float to the catcher using only his mind.
trident
Note to self: place Kershaw in my fantasy no draft list.
24TheKid
I was planning on keeping up until the news of his injury broke. Working on some last minuet trades right now.
The Ghost of Bobby Bonilla
LOL, and I got downvoted to oblivion today on the Harper article, when saying that the Dodgers’ new interest in Harper is related to the fact that Kershaw is much, much more injured than they are letting on.
I think Kershaw is done for most of the year with a rotator cuff injury. The interview he and Dave Roberts gave yesterday made it clear something is really wrong and they did a horrible job of hiding it.
The Dodgers now need to pivot quickly by signing Bryce Harper, which will free them up to trade one or two OFs as headliners in a package for either Kluber or Bauer. They need to do this now, before the extent of Kershaw’s injury comes out which would put them in a position of dealing from desperation.
slowcurve
Unless you are smarter than the other 29 GMs, they are already dealing from desperation.
captainsalty
Agreed…this has been my position all along even before Kersh came up hurt
lowtalker1
I hate seeing players hurt, even if it’s the Dodgers. At the same time, I’m glad no other team was able to sign him and he reupped with them. Good or bad. That is still an expensive pill to swallow
sheff86
$90M+? GET IN THE TUBE YOU IDIOT!
KCJ
He’s an idiot, huh? I highly doubt that Kershaw is refusing to take an MRI. If the Dodgers think it’s necessary, they’ll have it done.
Gordon Lightfoot
Give him an MRI – why wait? Foolish.
debubba
“Hello Cleveland? Hey, so we want to talk with you about that Kluber guy. Now that we have Harper, we really don’t need Verdugo and Bellinger. We would throw in Ruiz too. We have an Uber waiting outside Goodyear ballpark and we would like to see Kluber in Glendale about 30 minutes. Does that work for you?
The Ghost of Bobby Bonilla
“Oh hi Dodgers. So Kluber can’t make it and we already have about 14 no-power outfielders, so we’ll let you guys hang onto Verdugo. But if you can send over Bellinger, Santana and Peters, we’ll have Trevor Bauer fly right over to the ballpark on a drone”. Thanks, Tribe
debubba
“Thanks for the offer, Magic called an was confused, you just had a guy like this and the good Dr. has left. He would be a great #2 hitter and his arm is much better than Mickey’s kid. Who were you planning to put there? Kipnis? Come on, you know you want him.”
The Ghost of Bobby Bonilla
Oh, hey it’s Magic on the phone now. Hey Magic, I’ve got a slightly used LeBron here which you can have for the low, low price of $35 to $45 million per year. He won’t play defense ever again, and he is completely toxic to every team he’s ever been on, but he does put up lots of triple-doubles by racking up stats in garbage time. He also just wants to make movies and TV shows.
Oh and all of his teammates hate him. Sound good?
debubba
Deal. We love him in Cleveland! He’s the only thing that has ever been successful!
gmenfan
Nothing to see here, fans. *gulp* See, we took Bryce out to dinner. *nervous laugh* It’s gonna be just fine.
Padres2019ha
“Hey yo Kersh, mind throwing the ball harder this year? That’d be greaaat”
Dodgertown76
They would’ve made the Series without Kershaw 31 per was stupid. I would’ve thrown the farm for Degrom and used the money toward Bryce.
desertbull
How do you have fatigue 10 days into Spring Training? Obviously its not just fatigue.
captainsalty
Have you ever actually thrown a baseball or do you just play it on the PlayStation?
Mikel Grady
Is this a high school team ? 30 million dollar pitcher and no plans to get checked by specialist ??? Just rub dirt on it Clayton you are still our opening day starter .
The Ghost of Bobby Bonilla
Because the moment he has the MRI, it gets leaked that he has a rotator cuff tear and is out all year. They are trying to position themselves to get another SP before that leaks out. Derp.
xtraflamy
Maybe they are downplaying it so they don’t get hosed in trade or FA talks.
Frisco500
Just put some tussin on it.
milkman
This is not looking good for kershaw. So classic. One body part gets hurt and it just leads to injuries to other parts of the body over the years.
Hondo_Lane
Kershaw with all his health problems at only 30 is another example of why Randy Johnson and Nolan Ryan were so great throwing at the velocities those guys did into their 40s, 5000+ strikouts and World Series rings.
Doodgers wasted Kershaw’s best years not winning the Series. 2014 was amazing but no championship.
boltz82
Does anyone else find this suspect? Kershaw is arguably the best pitcher in baseball, is experiencing ongoing issues with the shoulder, yet the team hasn’t given him an MRI? Why not? It would have ZERO adverse affects. Yet they allow him to try throwing the ball? It seems to me like they are withholding something.
Basebal101
Not suspect at all. He’s has this before and recognizes the pain. It’s typical for a pitcher this time of the year. I pitched for 18 years I sadly can relate to exactly what he’s going through.
apbadogs
He won’t pitch this year, put it in the bank. This is not normal.
lefty58
Good move signing him to a 3 year deal instead of an anchor deal. He’ll have plenty of up-tics, but the trendline is definitely heading south.