In a press conference in front of the Steinbrenners, most of the Yankee roster and his wife and kids, C.C. Sabathia has officially announced his intentions to retire at the conclusion of the 2019 season.
Included in a statement released by the team was written statements from a wide-ranging collection of voices, including Derek Jeter, Joe Girardi, LeBron James, Fat Joe, Steve Kerr, the major of Sabathia’s hometown Bob Sampayan, Tiki Barber and more. It’s quite the show of support for Sabathia, whose storied career will come to an end after 2019, his 19th year in the league. In a career that included stops with the Indians, Brewers and Yankees, Sabathia has thus far amassed 246 wins in 3,470 innings across 538 regular season appearances, all starts. Presently, he trails Bartolo Colon by one win for the lead among active players.
Sabathia is a 6-time All-Star and American League Cy Young award winner in 2007. He was named MVP of the ALCS in 2009 after going 2-0 with a 1.13 ERA in helping the Yankees down the Los Angeles Angels to win the pennant. The Yanks, of course, won the World Series that season, with Sabathia earning his keep in two World Series starts against the Phillies, though the Yanks split the two games in which Sabathia started. Though Sabathia’s career can largely be viewed as a two-part story – the first part in Cleveland, the second with the Yankees – his most memorable performance might be the work he put in for half a season in Milwaukee in 2008. He famously went 11-2 down the stretch with a 1.65 ERA and an insane 7 complete games and three shutouts in 17 starts. Going on short rest multiple times, Sabathia put on a show of endurance and durability plucked from a different era. In doing so, he also became the only pitcher of the Modern Era (since 1900) to record 120 strikeouts with two teams in a single season.
We could spend all day lauding Sabathia’s many accolades, and he’s not done yet. For now, Sabathia is fifth in AL history with 2,858 strikeouts, the most ever by a lefty. He is the active leader in that category, as well as innings pitched and quality starts. He has a good chance of overtaking Colon at some point this season for the active lead in wins. The Yankees are likely to closely monitor Sabathia’s workload this season, though he continues to pitch well deep into his thirties, taking 29 turns last year with a 3.65 ERA in 153 innings. Today’s announcement grants Sabathia, 38, the opportunity of a farewell tour as he makes his final starts in ballparks around the league.
canocorn
CC Rider!
canocorn
If you look up CC rider in slang dictionaries, you’ll find that a CC Rider is a prostitute who will ‘ride’ for $200. CC being the Roman numeral 200. But since the song was written so long ago, I’m not sure if 200 would be a realistic figure or not, or even if it is today.
Old User Name
C.C. Ryder was Joe Namath’s character name in the movie “C.C. & Company” though that is Ryder, not Rider.
1988wasalongtimeago
It’s a nickname in Compton for a Crip.
Polish Hammer
Cream Cheese or CupCake…
Old User Name
Hammer… Crayola Crayons
Solar Flare
Creative Commons
Ironman_4life
Coconut creme
yukongold
Another Yankee farewell tour. Anybody else as excited for this as I am??
makaio6
Outside the Bronx? No.
xXabial
no
dirtbagfreitas
I’m ready. They don’t make em like CC anymore. I hope the Yankees can send him off with a ring.
sadosfan
He is already married so he already has a ring. Ridiculous comment.
Tootoop3
Also he won one of those ring things in 2009.
Solar Flare
He meant a World Series ring.
arne23
Nope
MB923
Bet you didn’t complain about Big Papi getting one.
I don’t complain about any of them. Let’s not act as if it’s a Yankee thing. Chipper Jones was the first one and David Ortiz was the last one.
macstruts
I sure did, He was released by the Twins and takes off, tests positive and is canonized. Go Figure.
As for CC. He’s a HOF player. What he did while playing for the Brewers was one of the most remarkable things I’ve ever seen. That alone puts him over the top.
MB923
I was asking yukon who I believe is a Sox fan
macstruts
I don’t have any problem with CC getting a send off. He deserves it. He was good for baseball. Not just the Yankees, but for baseball.
deweybelongsinthehall
Ridiculous for Papi a cheater in my view to have gotten such an over the top tour. Yes he did and does a lot of great off the field stuff but to think he suddenly found himself in Boston and was able to have one of his best years at age 40 is likely being naive. I’m as big acidic fan as there is and if/when he gets elected to the HOF is when I stop caring. The fact that other suspected cheaters are akready in the Hall doesn’t make it right. Too many others who have no PED alleged connection will never get in because their achievements are wrongly compared against the PED generation players.
Bald Vinny
I don’t think anyone in Boston approved of it. It drained the team and lead to a first round exit.
iamhector24
Yes but those players maintained their all star caliber play when they got old.
pasha2k
I am, Ortiz deserved all kudos his last yr. CC will be in the HZoF but it didn’t help like Ortiz had winning the WS.
mjctrack
Say it ain’t so!!!
Moonlight Grahamcracker
Hall of Very Good.
Netflix&RichHill
He’s too good for that hall. He’s better than Glavine was, for sure. He deserves the hall.
CJCue
THE HALL???? HUH.
His career era is slightly under the league average, yet he deserves to be in a place for history’s best players??? UMM NO
Lefty Grove’s right hand
He has a good case with +250 wins and +3000 K’s. He’s no first ballot guy, but he’ll probably get in.
davidcoonce74
He’s like ten million times better than Ted Lyons. He’s better than Drysdale.
Netflix&RichHill
His ERA has been 14% better than league average when accounting for league and ballpark. Same as tom glavine, actually! But his FIP and xFIP are markedly better. CC is better than pitchers in the hall. His peak, sustained dominance, ability to adjust, accolades, WAR, Ks, and championships make him worthy of the hall of fame.
Polish Hammer
Unfortunately that’s the problem with the Halls of Fame now. Somehow players got in that really don’t deserve it in retrospect but all future candidates will be compared to the weakest admission. I know they won’t do it, but it would be nice to see them wipe the slate clean and build the Hall of Fame up with the elite and leave the rest in the Hall of Very Good.
davidcoonce74
Agreed; I’d love to see al the Frisch admissions wiped out, along with all the Harold Baines’ of the world. Becauyse, as you point out, the worst Hall-of-Famers become the bar for suture candidates, and then we have to ask stuff like: If Baines, why not Staub? If Bottomley, then why not Garvey? If Lyons, then why not CC?
basebaIl1600
Sabathia has a lower career WAR and ERA than Zack Greinke. I’d think that Greinke will eventually be one of those guys that gets in 3rd or 4th ballot, not Sabathia. If Sabathia gets in, I’d assume it’s around 8th or 9th time with a weak ballot.
luclusciano
Luckily we judge all pitchers by their ERA, because that’s the best way to do it.
Netflix&RichHill
Assuming this is sarcasm, thank you.
luclusciano
Not for you Netflix, yours made sense.
luclusciano
Not directed at you Netflix
macstruts
CJCue… Who are you talking about? CC ERA is 117, league average is 100.
He’s done that for almost 20 years. His WAR is 62.. You can say he’s a borderline Hall of Famer, but what he did in 2008 in unprecedented. 2008 puts him over the top. Is he Curt Schilling.? No? Is he light years better than Jack Morris… Yes. Is he light years better than Catfish Hunter… Yes.
macstruts
They are both Hall of Famers. Greinke is better.
I think because of 2008, he’s in.
Netflix&RichHill
I know, that’s why I said thanks. FIP and SIERA are far more effective statistics to measure pitcher performance. I liked your comment.
antibelt
Glavine worth more than 20 WAR from a career standpoint.
Netflix&RichHill
Depends which WAR you’re looking at. You’re looking at RA9. FWAR has him ahead of Glavine which is impressive given that he’s started 100+ games fewer than Glavine
elEddieG
Better than Glavine? That’s debatable. Glavine pitches primarily in the NL, Sabathia in the AL where he didn’t have to step to the plate as often. How much longer would have Glavine pitched if he played most of his games as an AL pitcher?
Netflix&RichHill
I don’t believe there is any correlation between longevity and having to hit for pitchers.
The more important detail is that CC had to pitch against the DH. Also, Cc was quite a good hitting pitcher. His career, it could be posited, would’ve been even more impressive had he pitched in the NL.
Polish Hammer
Doesn’t help your cause, he threw against other pitchers and not a DH and also because of that was pulled (earlier than he would be in the AL) for pinch hitters thus actually prolonging his career.
Strike Four
No voters care about pitchers hitting though?
CC plain and simple belongs in the HOF for his pitching. He’s got the numbers, he’s a family man, he had no controversy while playing in the worst/biggest media (which is rare in itself), he was absolutely filthy and elite from ’06-’12, along with bookending that stretch with random decent years, he has a Cy, he has the counting stats, a postseason MVP award, a ring, only 2 out of 18 seasons under 150 IP (and one was 148) and he played in a heavy-offense era to start his career too. CC is an all-time great whether you like it or not.
mattyvince
But Sabathia also had to face a DH most of his career
Ry.the.Stunner
Glavine also pitched during an era where offense absolutely reigned supreme. CC’s career started during the tail-end of that era, and the results show as he had a 4+ ERA in four out of his first five seasons.
MB923
Are you really arguing that it’s harder to pitch in the NL because the pitcher bats??? Pitchers probably average 50 PA a year
Pitchers batting means no DH. The AL lineups are harder to face. It is far harder to face someone like David Ortiz, Edgar Martinez, Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, etc then it is to face Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux, Clayton Kershaw, etc
David Makai
Yeah that guy he really tried to make that argument lol. Unbelievable
iamhector24
Being a family man makes someone worthy of the hall of fame? Also, I normally wouldn’t bring this up but you can’t act like there was “no controversy” when he missed an entire post season because he was in rehab. I’m GLAD he went. But your assessment is absurd.
Solar Flare
Glavine was amazing, though.
iamhector24
Better than Glavine? Have you been huffing paint?
Sky14
Sabathia will get in. His career isn’t all that dissimilar to Mussinas, who just got in, and CC has at least has a Cy Young. Personally I’d prefer a small hall but it seems the floor gates are open with recent additions.
stratcrowder
I hope he goes out like Moose did and wins 20.
YankeesBleacherCreature
I highly doubt it. He’s pretty much a 5-inning pitcher at this point. If he does, the Yankees are in pretty great shape with a #5 starter winning 20 games.
stratcrowder
Geez, I said ‘I hope’.
Strike Four
you sound like a blast at parties
you are aware you DONT have to comment on everything, right?
YankeesBleacherCreature
Sure
PopeMarley
4.2 innings more likely.
MB923
He averaged over 5 IP last year.
PopeMarley
Yea and he ran down in Aug-Sept, and don’t forget the heart issues.
MB923
I know. I’m not saying he will average more than 4.2 FYI. Just saying he was able to last year. But with the Yankees pen he probably doesn’t have to pitch more than 4.2
bobtillman
Every buffet restaurant in America will inform its staff that it will be closing…….
Polish Hammer
I was wondering how long it would take to get that comment or how the budget for the NYY clubhouse spread will be reduced substantially…
YankeesBleacherCreature
Great dude! Going to miss him.
johnrealtime
Another tiresome yearlong goodbye to a yankee. Jeter really ruined these for everyone
mlb1225
How did Jeter ruin Farwell tours?
johnrealtime
Were you following baseball that year? It was such a huge story, he was laden with gifts everywhere he went. Was brought up in so many MLB broadcasts. Such a self involved ego parade
Strike Four
Jeter was never once a team player, from refusing to move off SS for the superior defender in A-Rod, to refusing to bat anywhere but in top of the order, to painstakingly clinging to SS for years past his use-by date, Jeter was always in it for himself and the Yankees and NYC bowed to him for…”reasons”? No idea why he was so bulletproof, its not like he was married with kids his entire career. Just a singles hitter who was total crud defensively. He had like 800 chances in the postseason, so naturally he did some things there. But its a team game, and he was never about that, always only about himself, and the media ate it up. More gross than A-Rod.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Yes. Just a marketing pawn which is why the Yankees named him team captain and why the worst thing the NY rabid media could write about him were gift baskets given to his girlfriends.
PopeMarley
Google the word imbecile and it has your profile.
MB923
Yes I’m sure Jeter had authority on where to play and where to bat in the lineup over Cashman and Steinbrenner.
VivaBeavis
Right…. because he told all of those other teams to give him gifts and have a ceremony for him.
AllRiseForTheJudge
LOL you clearly have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about and have never watched a game of baseball in your life. Yeah, Jeter was a such a horrible defensive SS that he remained the starter in that position with the same team for 20 years with 14 Allstar selections. with FIVE gold gloves.
He was also so bad offensively (you called him a “singles hitter”) that he won FIVE silver sluggers, two Hank Aaron awards and logged well over 3,000 career hits.
But yeah Derek Jeter was absolutely terrible and should have given up his position to A-Rod who by then was no longer a viable SS because he had bulked up so much from steroids that he couldn’t get to balls in the hole or up the middle while Jeter continued making crazy jump throws, off balance with his momentum taking him away from first base, in the same hole A-Rod never had a prayer of getting anywhere close to. You know, the throw Jeter basically invented and made better than anyone else in history.
Let’s not forget the numerous times he dove into the stands to save the game for his TEAM, and the time he came out of nowhere to cut off an errant throw and get Jason Giambi at the plate in the playoffs to save the TEAM’S season.
Yeah, TOTALLY not a team player and TOTALLY in it for himself. Okay…..
luclusciano
Hate much strike 4? Arod was signed to be the 3rd baseman, as they had a short stop. It was not about team players. He was not a horrible defender, he was just not premier. Yankees did not choose captains for marketing purposes. I can keep going, but your hate has you sounding a little bitter.
ShieldF123
I think Yankees fans (I’m a long time yankee fan too) need to come to terms with the fact that Jeter was a below average SS defensively. He was never a great defender. And yes, ARod was a better SS when he joined the Yankees, that’s a fact.
MB923
I’m a Yankee fan but Jeter was At Best an average shortstop. And even calling him average is being generous
iamhector24
I think Jeter is overrated too but I have to ask, “it’s not like he was married with kids his whole career”
Wtf does that even mean?
iamhector24
Yes they did choose captains for marketing purposes. Any other thought is you being a homer.
thecoffinnail
ARod was acquired via trade. He wasn’t signed. And he was definitely a far superior defense shortstop than Jeter when he came to the Yankees. In 2003 his last year before joining the Yankees ARod had a 1.7 dwar and Jeter had a -.6 dwar. I hate using a stat like that but it’s the easiest one to use as a comparison.
luclusciano
Hector – then why haven’t there been more captains if it is just marketing? Pretty bad marketing if that is the case, homer. Roughly 14 since 1900.
mehs
Raffael Palmerio won a gold glove at 1B in 1999 while playing 28 games there. sbnation.com/2011/12/2/2604446/rafael-palmeiro-199…
mehs
Courtesy of Elite Sports New York Article:
As We Remember Derek Jeter, Don’t Forget His Horrid Defense
By Christian Kouroupakis – 05/13/2017
“Per, FanGraphs, here’s an overall list of fielders who cost their teams the most runs on defense from 2003-2014:
Derek Jeter (-152)
Prince Fielder (-95)
Hanley Ramirez (-73)
Yuniesky Betancourt (-66)
Dan Uggla (-66)”
driftcat28 2
Do they really add that much stress to your life?
johnrealtime
Did I say it did? Keep your strawman to yourself. It made me roll my eyes and my original comment was the thought that came to my mind. Comments are typically reactions to the above story and that’s what mine was. No biggy
hiflew
Rivera’s was bad too. The Rockies were pretty much forced to give him a send off present even though he had only pitched 2 games against them in his career and had never played in Colorado at all. It was ridiculous.
vatp46a
Do they still have a team in Colorado?
MB923
Nobody forced anything. It’s the teams choice.
hiflew
Yeah right. Can you imagine the bad press for any team refusing to take part? Of course they were forced.
MB923
So teams make business decisions based on the input from the press?
iamhector24
Yes. Did you just seek Kaep win 60-80 million bucks from the NFL. Teams ABSOLUTELY make business decisions based on press.
Polish Hammer
You’re right John, somehow certain fanbases think their history should be honored by everyone else as if it was their own.
luclusciano
The teams did this, at no point did the Yankees request or want this.
MB923
How did Jeter ruin anything if Chipper Jones and Mariano were the first ones to get it and as of now David Ortiz was the last one to get it?
Also, it’s a team’s choice to give them a retirement gift. It’s not mandatory.
PCOLA SOX FAN
Another future executive for the Marlins!
bobtillman
…Pastry Chef……
Senioreditor
Sabathia is fifth in AL history with 2,858 strikeouts, the most ever by a lefty. That’s kinda shocking.
YankeesBleacherCreature
He currently ranks 17th all-time with 2,986. If he has a healthy season, he could conceivably move past 13th place which Pedro Martinez holds at 3,154 Ks.
lasershow45
Meh. He’d need 169 Ks to do that. And he hasn’t reached that number since 2013. I’d bet the farm he doesn’t get to it this year. He’ll get skipped a few times, he’s already suspended for his first start, he’ll have his innings monitored, and he’ll probably go out like Jeter, toss a few innings in his last home game and get taken out to a standing O.
He’d need around 180 innings, while keeping his K/9 from last year in order to reach it.
hiflew
Strikeouts are at an all time high. It’s basically the reverse of the wins stat. 20th century starting pitchers had far more wins, but far fewer strikeouts.
Polish Hammer
Ks are at an all time high for hitters but spread across the pitching staff due to the specialized roles. Power pitchers have learned to pitch to contact to get that 3 pitch groundball out instead of that 7 pitch strikeout.
Jgwi2az
Earning his keep in WS vs Phillies? Uhh he lost. And it was ugly
Jgwi2az
Hmm. No delete button. Lol
I’m wrong (hardly ever! Haaa)
Was thinking of 08 nlds
lowtalker1
Colon doesn’t have a contract so is he really still active? I don’t see anyone signing him.
Senioreditor
The Marlins still need starters.
mlb1225
As do the Marlins. No real reason any of those types of teams shouldn’t just take the 1 year commitment on him.
YankeesBleacherCreature
They should sign for just for promotional purposes. “Big Sexy $2 Fish Tacos”, “Big Sexy Hot Dogs”
Monkey’s Uncle
Since Colon is still seeking employment in MLB I guess he’s still considered active. It’s very doubtful that anyone picks him up but who knows.
bobtillman
Colon’s going to open 162 times for the Rays……
MB923
Hahaha
mlb1225
Really rooting for CC to go out on a strong note.
its_happening
The free stuff he’ll receive from every visiting ballpark will be outstanding. Smart move. Well done.
shane
Hell of a career and I wish him the best.
Couldn’t he just announce this after the season was over though? Now between the constant Aaron Judge ball-washing all you’ll hear is CC this and that “last time ever” blah blah blah
Polish Hammer
+1
The Ghost of Bobby Bonilla
Hope he has an amazing final season. Even though he left small-market Cleveland for the money and lights of New York, he is still really well liked in The Land. This guy is total class and an awesome competitor.
When I saw him and Bartolo coming up with the Tribe two decades ago, who knew they’d still be actively playing in 2019?!?!?
rerogers
He was traded to the Brewers. Then signed a contract with the Yankees in free agency. He didn’t leave anything.
Polish Hammer
Traded because he was 100% leaving in free agency…
AllRiseForTheJudge
Can you blame him for wanting to leave a franchise that was at the time a raging dumpster fire? Cliff Lee was also traded because he was leaving, and both are World Series Champions.
You do what’s best for your career as a professional, not what’s best for your employer. Professional sports are the only business in the world where “loyalty” is expected on the part of the employees; I guess nobody here has ever left a job to take one with more money and better benefits, possibly even in a better city with bigger opportunities. Or worse, stayed with an employer holding out hope that empty promises would be fulfilled only to find out it was a sinking ship and your job is being sent overseas, making you expendable.
Cleveland sucked as a franchise when they had two of the best pitchers in the game at the time, and Cleveland as a city is so bad that nobody with money wants to live there.
Polish Hammer
Raging dumpster fire because they’re a small market team that gets saddled with one bad contract (Travis Hafner) that forces them to dump any piece they can while the big boys can spend and spend and eat a bad contract. No reason they can’t have a salary cap like every other major sport. The well run franchises will still be successful.
iamhector24
And there’s also no reason they SHOULD have a cap. The Royals won a title and they’re a much smaller market than Cleveland. And how many straight sell outs did they have when that new park opened?
Polish Hammer
Royals won a title and team imploded immediately. The window of opportunity is so narrow for a team like it is damn near impossible to sustain anything. WTF does a sellout streak have to do with a salary cap?
davidcoonce74
Salary Caps harm competitive balance though; look at the NFL and NBA, where the same teams win every year. That doesn’t happen in baseball.
Polish Hammer
The NBA is different because one franchise player can make ok the difference. What the Patriots have accomplished in the NFL is unreal. But we’ll run franchises will still maintain their status. Why MLB has no salary cap or ability to trade draft picks is just wrong IMO.
AngelDiceClay
I guess he wants gifts to bestowed on him while he tours the AL this year.
megaj
Yep. He must think he was one of the all time greats to publicly announce it before the season. I would say he was an above average pitcher, with about 5 seasons that could be considered “ace” worthy. Not worthy of a farewell tour.
Polish Hammer
But he’s going out a Yankee so somehow all of baseball must step up with a farewell; had he retired a Royal a Padre or Ray he’d get his night in his home stadium and that’s it instead it will be the season long narrative for all of baseball.
wscaddie56
As a brewers fan this guy is a god. Those 4 months were some of the best pitching I’ve ever seen. That Pittsburgh scorekeeper better still be losing sleep after robbing him of the no hitter.
Thanks for the memories CC and your money will never be good in Milwaukee.
megaj
Reminds of the baseball equivalent of football’s Emmitt Smith. Like Emmitt, CC maybe should have retired 5 years earlier when he still had game. The combination of playing longer to pad his stats and being on great teams for most of his career will most likely get him into the HoF one day.
WideWorldofSports
Quiet yourself plz
iamhector24
Dude had a 3.65 ERA last year. Why exactly should he have retired? Athletes aren’t playing sports to keep YOUR memories of them being great.
MB923
Borderline HOFer in my opinion. Over the last 20 years he has the highest WAR among all pitchers in baseball , though if we reduce that to 15 years he ranks 3rd
Based on longevity he’s a HOFer. Based on averages (like ERA and K/9 and others) he’s well above average which IMO is borderline.
norcalguardiansfan
I was at his first game in his rookie season. 2001 against Baltimore. He started out throwing 100….then the Orioles measured him up and pounded him. I’m guessing he learned from that experience. Saw him pitch many great games for the tribe.
Polish Hammer
He did learn, he learned to take off the gas and pitch instead of throw as straight gas at 99 will get hit but placing it better at 95 would be better. Those few MPHs he gave up improved his stuff.
norcalguardiansfan
It was fun to see him light up the gun, but a pitch that is that fast that doesn’t move just isn’t special in the majors. If your pitches don’t move, you get lit up.
luckyh
As a Sox fan I was glad when they signed him for this year. I just don’t think he has enough left in the tank. Last year it was a good signing. The farewell tour will make it tough to part ways with him during the season, unless they can park him on the DL. Great guy and I think a HOF-er. He is borderline, but his likability puts him over the edge. Has been a great pitcher for the Yanks no doubt.
WideWorldofSports
Thanks but nobody cares
HBan22
Go away, WideTrollofDoucheBaggery.
SupremeZeus
Very likeable guy. Those will be big pants to fill.
jdgoat
Uhh I hate farewell tours.
mike156
Arguing about farewell tours misses the point. CC probably isn’t a HOF-caliber pitcher, but they don’t make them much like him any more. Tell me what GM, with perfect foresight, wouldn’t have wanted to draft him and keep him?
Dutch Vander Linde
If he was a Yankee earlier in his career, he would’ve had 300 wins.
ellisburks
Why? He was with very good Indians teams and a Milwaukee team that went to the playoffs. Yankees wouldn’t magically give him 40 more wins.
klwynne
I think having Mariano as his closer earlier in his career would’ve added to his total. I don’t know if it would’ve added 40 though.
Polish Hammer
A difference of maybe 4 wins not 50.
Dutch Vander Linde
Indians went to the postseason only twice while he was there and they lost more than 90 games twice.
Polish Hammer
Thanks for the research, now go back and see which wins he had sewn up were blown by the bullpen and then see if somehow he gets those 50 wins somebody claimed he would’ve gotten with Rivera closing.
Polish Hammer
PS: they lost over 90 games only once in his time with the Indians. I know it’s convenient to pay homage to the Yankee great but the Indians drafted and developed him, turned him from a thrower to a pitcher, he got his Cy Young there and 3 of his 6 All Star Game nods.
Endersgame
I was about to ask how this writer could have forgotten about Randy Johnson, but then stopped and read the article again. Talking about Sabathia, ‘he has the most strikeouts by a lefty in AL history.’ If you only count the strikeouts he recorded while playing in the AL, Randy ended up with 2441 strikeouts. Kinda crazy that so many of Randy’s strikeouts happened while he played in the NL. But of course, it is only really crazy because I will always think of Randy as a Mariner.
Just putting this out there in case anyone else mis-reads this like I did the first couple times I read it.
davidcoonce74
Yeah, Johnson went to the NL when the league was historically weak and, of course, a starting pitcher in the NL gets a couple automatic outs per game pitching to the pitcher. I think CC has a good shot at the Hall; I wonder if he goes in as a Yankee or an Indian, though; he pitched longer for the Yanks but won his Cy Young with Cleveland.
Polish Hammer
Honestly I think it is so dumb a player has to go in the Hall as a player of one team. The bust/plaque could have the player without a hat or with a logo less hat.
hk27
CC as an Indian was a great pitcher. His short stint as a Brewer was surreal. His tenure with the Yankees was just pretty good overall. He should go in wearing the Cleveland cap, when he was playing like a genuine HoFer.
gomerhodge71
Get those 3,000 K’s and 250 wins, C.C. HOF is next.
Gordon Lightfoot
… retirement tours are obnoxious – telling.
SheaGoodbye
I miss when players announced their retirement when they were actually retiring.
luckyh
The media also wasn’t hounding them back then with a 24/7 sports radio news cycle. Different times. They would ask him about it every day. That’s the main reason they announce it.
jd396
They’ve had 24/7 sports news cycles a hell of a lot longer than they’ve had gushy farewell tours.
davidcoonce74
Yeah, like Lou Gehrig. That wasn’t remotely a media event, was it?
jd396
Time for a six month retirement party!
Bocephus
Can’t have a party on the DL.
Rex Block
Pity party?
Melchez
Speaking of Hall of Fame… they need a shrine to commemorate the great players like Ruth, Cobb, Williams… those guys. Maybe an annex of the Hall of Fame where the legends live. “Hall of Legends”. Guys like Baines and trammell were great to watch, but do they really belong along side the legends?
davidcoonce74
Actually, what the Hall needs is a per-segregation and post-segregation wing. It’s very hard to call Gehrig or Cobb or Ruth the best player of all-time when they never had to play against like 2/3rds of the best players.
megaj
You can’t ask for things like that while we still have BET, NAACP, Black History Month, Negro College Fund, Miss Black USA, and a plethora of other “black” exclusive clubs and colleges. Segregation is still very much alive, the problem is people are doing it to themselves now. As far as judging their competition, even if you added all the premier negro hurlers into MLB at that time, Ruth and Gehrig would still have had stellar careers. A better comparison would be how they would have fared against sliders, curves, and changeups which were not predominantly used back then.
Grizalt
Just what the world needs. Another Yankee farewell tour.
Bocephus
If it doesn’t effect the game you go to or watch than it shouldn’t matter to you.
MB923
Develop a HOFer or 3
SargentDownvote
I agree bro. I heard opening day at Petco is Kurt Bevacqua Day. You going?? I’m psyched!!
deweybelongsinthehall
To my knowledge and recollection, a man who played the game right and gave it his all each year. From a fan who usually rooted against him and his team, congrats on a great career.
luclusciano
Says something to be one of the top50 lefty pitchers ever. A true workhorse that always gave his all – regardless of injury or other issues. A guy that would always go 100 pitches in a game, u fortunately lately those 100 are in the first 5. He mentored, always was available for the charities, and seemed to have fun doing it. Getting to 3,000 strikeouts and 250 wins with a cy young and ws is a rare feat. Well done legaCCy
SargentDownvote
Popeye to his spinach. CC to his Captain Crunch.