Per releases from both teams, the Mets have acquired OF Keon Broxton from the Brewers for righty Bobby Wahl and minor leaguers Adam Hill and Felix Valerio.
Broxton, who’s one of the league’s flashiest defenders in center field, has been a fixture on the rumor mill since the back half of last winter, when the Brewers traded for Christian Yelich and signed Lorenzo Cain in a matter of days. Plate appearances in Milwaukee were scarce last season for the 28-year-old, who returned to Triple-A for the fourth time, slashing a below-average .254/.323/.421 over 334 plate appearances in one of the minors’ most hitter-friendly yards. In 89 big-league trips to the plate, Broxton managed just a .179/.281/.410 line, though he did post a ridiculous 11 DRS in just 134 center-field innings, a total which bested all but four full-time players at the position.
The former Diamondback and Pirate farmhand, who remains under club control for four additional seasons, has long been beset by an alarming propensity for the swing and miss – in 2017, when he accumulated a robust 463 plate appearances for the Crew, Broxton’s 37.8 K% was the highest in baseball among all near-full-time players; in 2016, he struck out over 36 percent of the time. The totals, though, are somewhat offset by a willingness to work counts and an especially-discerning eye vs. left-handed pitching – in 252 career plate appearances against lefties, Broxton sports an excellent 15.5% BB rate, and should represent a quality weak-side platoon option for New York at any outfield position, should Brandon Nimmo or Michael Conforto sputter against same-side arms next season.
For the Mets, the move goes a long way toward addressing the team’s outfield depth, one of its few remaining offensive holes. Juan Lagares, who profiles almost identically to Broxton, as a late-twenties, right-handed, light-hitting quality defender in center, was the penciled-in starter at the position, but the longtime Met has found it almost impossible to stay healthy for a good portion of the season, appearing in just 203 combined games since the outset of the 2016 season. Yoenis Cespedes, who underwent a second heel surgery in October, has also been routinely shelf-ridden, and may miss the entirety of 2019. The other two spots are locked down by Nimmo and Conforto, but the club had precious little depth aside. Such a move likely removes A.J. Pollock from the team’s offseason table, though New York had lately seemed a fringe-at-best candidate for his services anyway.
The Brewers, as mentioned, were dealing from an outfield surplus: in addition to reigning All-Stars Cain and Yelich, the club also sports Ryan Braun and Eric Thames as corner options, and just moved one-time regular Domingo Santana for another, left-handed outfielder Ben Gamel. The 2019 outlook for Broxton didn’t figure to brighten, so dealing the soon-to-be 29-year-old seemed prudent indeed for the defending NL Central champs.
Wahl, 26, will bring his highly-touted fastball/slider mix to one of the league’s deepest bullpens. Acquired by New York in a midseason deal that sent righty Jeurys Familia to Oakland, Wahl spent most of his time at Triple-A Nashville last season, where he sported a prodigious 14.75 K/9 over 39 2/3 innings. The flamethrowing righty has struggled with an array of injury issues in the past, including a thoracic outlet procedure in 2017, but looked mostly healthy last season. Command has also been a problem – in short big-league stints with the A’s and Mets, Wahl has walked a troubling 5.54 men per nine, and Steamer projects the total at 4.36 for the upcoming campaign.
Hill, 21, was the Mets’ 4th-round selection in the 2018 draft. In 15 short-season A-ball innings, the 6’6 righty struck out a promising 26 batters in just 15 1/3 IP. Baseball America’s pre-draft scouting report lauds Hill’s “heavy” fastball and projects mid-rotation upside, with the caveat that his secondary offerings can be “inconsistent” and his command “at times erratic.” The South-Carolina born product checked in at #24 on FanGraphs’ latest ranking of the New York farm.
Valerio, 18, was signed in early 2018 as an international free agent from the Dominican Republic. The now-shortstop stands just 5’7 but showed well in his initial professional exposure, slashing .319/.409/.433 for the Mets’ Dominican Summer League affiliate.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
Quite a crowded outfield now……
Not really, Cespedes is out for the year. Nimmo, Conforto, Lagares and Broxton are the OF unit for 2019.
Where are you getting that from?
Omar Minaya recently said that they don’t expect Cespedes to play much in 2019, and saying “If he gives us anything this year, that is great,”.
Did you hear the interview or just read one of the blogs reporting on it? I heard the interview and the tone of Omar’s statement shows the team is taking the same approach they took with David over the last few years.
When a team looks at the upcoming season the front office makes a projection of each player’s production. in Cespedes’ case they are not counting on any production from him not that he won’t be back. Anything they get from him is a bonus..
Cespedes said it himself. He expected to miss the entire year.
And the first two aren’t very good anyway.
Doesn’t bode well for my boy Gregor
Nope. White shark had better call his agent. And hope he takes in spring training.
Blanco and Davis are injury insurance.
Would they try to move Blanco in an effort to solidify their pen?
For someone else’s fringe non- roster invitee?
I’m not sure you can trade a recent free agent signing, and I’m positive Blanco wouldn’t net you a major league arm for their bullpen anyhow
Middle of June is when you can trade a newly signed FA.
Guess we are not getting Bryce (never thought we were) or Pollack. I hope we still have moves left to make.
I’d rather have Pollock than a Pollack
I prefer Trout myself…..
Dream outfield: AJ Pollock, Mike Trout, Tim Salmon.
For the marlins.
What about Kevin Bass?
Seared or blackened?
“I like my fish wet and squirmy”
Maybe Mike Carp could get a non roster invite. He’s only 32. It’s doable.
Replace salmon with Jim Edmonds. Then you got something there.
You missed the joke, chum.
Get Catfish Hunter out there for a few innings as a double switch candidate.
There should still be some moves left.
Well, he can certainly field the position. But, can he hit enough? That’s the big gripe with Lagares, isn’t it?
More than not being able to hit, Juan can’t stay healthy.
…and Lagares is far more expensive. I doubt he makes it out of Florida on the active mlb roster.
They are serious about winning
Almost the entire NL East is serious about winning.
I was being sarcastic…. very very sarcastic
Almost…. Braves continue to ignore bullpen and a starter. The Braves mantra is a penny earned is a penny saved.
That’s pretty obvious after the brewers traded their best defensive player. For a bunch of minor league players.
Not a Mets fan, but thank you Mets for being active and entertaining in the offseason.
Seems to be redundant with Lagares. Maybe they have a deal lined up for him?
Lagares has injury issues – it appears it’s going to be either a platoon, or Broxton being the fulltime CF if Lagares gets hurt yet again.
I thought that too at first. Lagares is gone next year so it could be Broxton takes over that role since he’s under control for 4 years.
Lagares to the Reds?
Yeah, we’ll take Scooter for him. LOL. In reality, it probably would be someone that matches up dollar-wise.
Mets have no need for Scooter. They already have a lefty hitting 2B in Cano
they could move Cano over to first if they have a log jam in the infield
I’d take Scooter any day! He can do more than play 2b.
Lagares and D’araund or Plawecki to the Reds for Alex Wood or Amir Garrett
175 Whiff’s in 2017. When did making contact with 2 strikes lose out to swinging for the fences?
thought you were talk cesp or confordo
No one cares about strikeouts anymore.
And lets say everyone does turn into Willians Astudillo, then you will complain “pitchers don’t strike anyone out anymore”.
You can’t win with people who think K’s mean anything at all in terms of production and value. They 100% DO NOT. I will point to exhibit A, Mike Trout and exhibit B, Aaron Judge. Do you want them to change up their approach? Did not think so.
You need to really stop caring about K’s. Other baseball fans are begging you.
Sure K’s mean little when your Aaron Judge or Mike Trout.
They also matter little to those with a .350 or greater OBP.
But for a 4th or 5th outfielder like Broxton who also can run…..making more contact will be the difference between a long career and selling insurance after the season.
Bottom line…..the difference between swinging and missing and putting the ball in play to a player who can run many times is the difference in them staying employed.
This exactly. It depends on the whole profile of the player. Joey Gallo can strike out 38% of the time because you take the power production that comes with it. And it’s not like he’s beating out many weak grounders either.
Thank you for making sense mrpadre. Strike Four’s comment was really stupid.
Great comment, Mr. padre. I think the same argument can be made for Michael A. Taylor of the Nats as well.
Bottom line: pitch counts are more important, and K’s mean more pitches are being thrown, and means the less you will see of a pitcher that keeps striking you out.
Would you rather a 1-pitch double play or a 10 pitch K? If you pick the former you are wrong.
How was it stupid? If everyone struck out less you’d complain how bad the pitching is now. There is no winning with people who care one iota about K’s. K’s are actually a productive out because they eat pitch counts. Sorry if you think those truths are “stupid”.
Especially now, with pitch counts and SP going through a lineup a couple times. Working the count can get the BP in earlier and expose them more in a series and in the long run of an 162 game season. The only issue though is if he could take a walk more or get a hit then his speed plays. Baseball’s a changing just like my ex wife that is now my…ex husband? It’s complicated…
How about a 6 pitch base hit or a 3 pitch strike out?
We can all cherry pick examples.
There’s no winning with people who think strikeouts are irrelevant.
You used two extreme examples to lump everyone together.
If you hit 40 homers, fine, but if you’re Billy Hamilton syriking out is a big deal
Again, long at bats can be hits and strike outs can be 3 pitch.
Starters are only expected to go 5 now, regardless, so rhe pitch count is not as big..
Play the game and learn. Putting the ball in play put pressure on the fielders to make the play of an error.. A K means an out unless you have Sanchez catching, then the hitter will get to 1B when Sanchez has another PASSBALL.
K per game by hitters
24 Arizona 9.01 K per game
25 Milwaukee 9..03
26 SF Giants 9..06
27 Texas 9..16 2
28 Philadelphia 9..38
29 San Diego 9.40
30 Chi Sox 9.84
It’s not complicated, just put the ball in play.
How about a 137 pitch lead off walk and the Starter leaves the game after only one batter?
That’s the sad part, S4. You don’t understand why. A ball put in play has a chance of a positive outcome. Just look at the number of 30 HR players that don’t have the talent to drive in 100. Mike Kingman was that type of player. Todays top talent reminds me more of Adam Dunn in his prime than Pujols or Cabrera in their prime.
You literally picked the one situation that would support your argument. And that’s assuming the ball put in play allows for the double play to be turned.
What about runners on second and/or third with less than two outs? Would you rather have a K or a ball put in play (regardless of pitches in the AB)? It’s not rocket science. On average – and yes, players like Mike Trout and Aaron Judge are exceptions to the rule given their high .OBP (and simply talent overall) – putting a ball in play is the preferable option vice a K because it puts pressure on the defense to make a separate play to get the hitter (now runner) out.
And given the increase in Ks now, manufacturing runs (esp. in the way I illustrated above – runners on 3rd and less than 2 outs) is at a premium.
STRIKE FOUR WRONG, if you listen to MLBNETWORK, or ANY OTHER baseball people talk OR if you ever played above LL you would know. You’ll see this year. Also if Putting the ball in play moves runner over and will cause errors. If you watched the Redsox/Yankee playoffs. In the 9th inning with a man on second base & o out Stanton K-ed but if he hit a ground ball to the right side the Yankee have a man on 3ed & 1 out. Then Next batter also Ked, IF he hit a Sac-fly the man on 3ed scores. Also, who was Houston’s HR/K guy. also the teams the lead MLB in K pre game buy hitter were CjiSox, SD, Phil, Tex, SF. so NO YOU’RE, PLAY THE GAME AND LEARN- Boston was 5 lowest, Clev & Houston were 1 & 2. WRONGhttps://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/stat/strikeouts-per-game
A strikeout is worse than a regular out only in certain situations. I did research on the strikeouts the Brewers made when they led the league a couple of years ago, and it worked out to about 10% of the strikeouts were in situations where putting the ball in play COULD improve the base runner situation.
Nobody on base? Doesn’t really matter if it’s a strikeout or a weak ground to short or a fly ball caught at the base of the wall. Two outs? Again, doesn’t really matter.
As far as more errors go, if EVERY strikeout was put into play, it would work out to about 1 extra error a week.
Saying a strikeout is worse is like saying a single to left is worse than a single to right. It’s true only in certain situations.
Mookie Wilson, game 6, 1986. That’s what can happen with a ball in play versus a strike out.
When players realized by doing like an 8 degree upswing in their swing it gives them more home run power.
…and that swing plane change creates a hole in their swing that any average major league pitcher can exploit. How many more 20 home run/60 rbi .220 hitters does baseball need? Give me a team of Mark Graves, Ozzie Smiths, Lance Berkmans, Ted Simmons, etc over this conglomeration of over paid mediocre two season phenoms any day. Agents, statisticians and moronic gm’s who continually make rich men of one faceted players has ruined pure baseball.
Mark Grace, sorry. Typo.
The fact they got this much from the Mets is impressive. Wahl could be sneaky good for the Brewers pen.
So does cespedes move to 1st then? Broxton Nimmo conforto could be a good defensive of.
I will bet that they found out Cespedes is not able to play in 2019 because his surgeries are very intense, and that’s why this happened.
Cespedes would actually have to be able to play again first.
Well he’s got 1 more year on his contract for 2020 so I guess my question is what do you do with cespedes when he comes back.
Put him back in LF. Hope he has a great season and then let him leave via free agency.
Give him the Jacoby Ellsbury treatment. Send him home “injured” and pay him till his contract is up.
Nothing. He has made his money and will be “hurt” again as soon as he can be. Not counting on him is an intelligent move. IF he comes back, deal with it then. These situations take care of themselves. Nimmo’s weaknesses have already been exposed as have Conforto’s. I wouldn’t be shocked to see Conforto at 1b in spring training, “just in case”.
Cespedes has historically done very well during his contract year so I suspect he will have a great season in 2020 to ensure a big future contract (just not with the Mets, we hope).
Cespedes not moving anywhere. He’s out for most if not all of 19. Nimmo in left Conforto in right. Alonso will be at first end of May or a tad sooner.
We still need a lefty in the pen… Brody taking this season serious unlike Sandy.
Brewers fans will remember some fantastic plays in CF that Keon made over the last couple of years. He’s got some decent pop in his bat as well. The trouble was always the fact that he can’t hit anything but fastballs. Solid enough 4th outfielder or bench bat/baserunner, though.
Plenty of players made good careers hitting just fastballs.
Well he’s not even GOOD at hitting them, especially not righties. He should start only against lefties.
The same could be said for Byron Broxton or did I mean Keon Buxton or maybe it was Lewis Brinson.. I do know that all of these highly touted post prospects can’t hit a lick.and have greatly embarrassed the scouting fraternity.
They just traded for a .221 avg player. I would’ve rather stick with Lagares, at least he hits for a better avg than this guy. smh
SMDH!
Except he also has more power and speed than Lagares while also knowing how to take a walk. They’re basically a wash offensively with Broxton having a bit more upside if he can ever manage to make a bit more contact.
Ah yes, the batting average argument
Ah yes, the “batting average is completely meaningless!” argument.
BA isnt everything but just because there are better stats out there to use doesnt make BA a valueless stat to base a players success on
No one implied BA is a completely meaningless statistic.
If Lagares and Broxton weres statistically identical except for Lagares having a significantly higher lifetime BA, then it could have some meaning.
Except that isn’t the case since they are vastly different players from a statistical standpoint, so singling out their BA difference would be meaningless.
Hits>Walks.
When has Lagares last hit for much more of an average? It wouldn’t shock me to see the Mets simply release Lagares and hope someone picks him up to get out of his contract.
This is the Coupons we are talking about.
When you drop a player, the team that picks them up only pays the league minimum.
Well, in 2018 JL supposedly had a whole new batting approach going in, and in the brief time he played he was batting .339.
I really like this trade of the Mets choose to use him as a starter
Looks like he’s going to be the fourth outfielder. He has some power, but does not hit for average. I guess the Mets have given on having Wahl in the pen.
whoa hot take
Broxton doesn’t have much of a platoon split. 116 ops+ v lhp & 92 ops+ v rhp.
That’s a 24% difference. I would say it’s significant. If he carriers an ops+ of 90-100 he’ll be fine with his plus, plus defense.
Not bad Brewers traded a guy who they probably had no room for on major league roster and got a few lottery tickets they can put down in the minors and see if anything can happen with them.
And Keon out of options
Really happy for the young man. Great speed, good attitude, happy he’s getting a change of scenery. He has power, but like most players these days, he should be more concerned with getting on base instead of swinging for the fences. Really good 4th OFer…
Seems like the Mets completely made out in that Familia deal. They trade Familia for Wahl, got Familia back in FA this off season, and now flipped Wahl+a few low level guys for Broxton.
Wow they got a 4th outfielder that can’t hit and gave up a couple of very young prospects That is not a win but a hail mary trade.
1. Rosario SS
2. Nimmo LF
3. Cano 2b
4. Ramos C
5. Conforto RF
6. Frazier 1b
7. McNeil 3b
8. Broxton CF
9. Pitcher
With Alonso taking over at 1b before the All-star Break = a run producing lineup
The Brewers came out well for a unproven .221 hitting Of
I would switch Rosario and Broxton since he has speed and take out Frazier and trade him for whatever and put Alonso there. Since the Mets didn’t spend any $$ on a cf use some $$ for a Starter like Keuchel or even Gio, put Santiago and Vargas in the Bp.
Might just get to 75 wins after all!!
Should be Cano 1B, McNeil 2B, Frazier 3B in 2019.
Then when Frazier is gone it goes to McNeil 3B, Cano 2B, Alonso 1B.
That line up is awful, lol
time to change my name:(
The Mets just signed Hector Santiago to a Minor League deal as well. A busy day for the Mets.
He was sneaky productive with the Halos.
Nice pull by the Brewers. A guy who did well in the DSL the first time, and a 2018 4th RDer from the SEC. Plus, Bobby Wahl, who might be better than Broxton.
Another non-educated fan. The Mets won this trade by a LANDSLIDE. Brewers got crap.
For a back-up outfielder… you act like they traded away anything
You obviously don’t watch the Brewers. Broxton is a fun, but very flawed player
Dude…no room for Broxton in a deep OF. Surprised they got this much for a player they don’t even need. And are you seriously going to question the Brewers’ front office and praise the Mets’. Please
Adam Hill has the potential to be a solid pitcher for years. Not saying he will be an ace in the rotation but a solid starter still yet.
OUTSTANDING acquisition for Brodie Van Wagenen. He literally gave up NOTHING for a CF with great defensive skills and still has good offensive upside.
With this trade, I’m sure the Mets are officially out on AJ Pollock, seeing that they now have both Juan Lagares & Broxton. With the extra funds the Mets still have, I would LOVE to see Brodie Van Wagenen sign both Adam Ottavino & Marwin Gonzalez.
Literally nothing? Who are those 3 humans that the article mentioned? You are literally illiterate.
Nothing?
How many 4th Rounders from 2016 have debuted already? How are you sure the two kids are “nothing”?
Broxton was dead wood in Milwaukee, and out of options. Those are two valid adds. Not even a Brewers fan.
Sorry to tell you but Brewers fans that expect ANYTHING relevant from these prospects will be vastly disappointed. Bro, the Brewers misused Broxton and will regret not letting him play everyday. Much better chance Broxton flourishes in Queens then any of those prospects ever will on the major league roster.
Broxton has already played a lot, he strikes out a TON. Not that us Brewers fans hate him, just that he’s whatever
Not a Brewers fan.
I’m a fan of 4th round SP draft picks from theSEC and kids who did well their first year in the DSL.
Another Mets homer who never watched the Brewers. Define misused please. They gave him plenty of chances to establish himself. and never could. Sure he was a fan favorite and had a great glove but on a Brewers team that is built to win now, there was absolutely no room for him. And yeah, people said the same thing when they traded Lind for no name prospects. One of those prospects was Freddy Peralta who was 19 at the time. So come on, Bro .
He’s a Mets homer who has no awareness of other teams. Wouldn’t expect anything else
You are obviously a Mets homer… the fact that you are even arguing that is lack of self-awareness. If you really need to pat yourself on the back, you obviously have self-esteem issues too. A ML ready bullpen arm, SP prospect with mid-rotation upside and a lotto ticket(he’s 18) is a lot for a 29 year old 4th OF with a limited bat and no options. Get a grip
Lol…you mad bro.
Dude…calm down. For real. Unclench those butt cheeks once in awhile, you’ll feel much better. For the record, once people start telling complete strangers such things as how much money you make, how many women you sleep with, military experience, you instantly lose all credibility.
Misused? So bench Yelich or Cain to give Keon more playing time? Also out of options like Santana who was the better player.
Did you know if you capitalize words, it actually does not change the meaning of them?
SO.
Honestly didn’t expect the Mets to go with a glove-first acquisition in the outfield, so this is a pleasant surprise. Sure, Broxton seems like a Lagares clone, but he does have more pop and speed between the two of them. Plus, with Lagares unable to stay healthy any type of quality insurance in CF is welcome, especially since an injury to either player would still allow us to keep Conforto in a corner outfield spot where he belongs.
There’s also been talk of the team looking to move Lagares, so maybe this is a precursor to that. I don’t see that ultimately happening, however, which is okay with me.
I agree. I would much rather trade crap prospects for a player like Broxton then shell out a $100 million contract to an injury prone player like Pollock.
Same. Also forgot to mention he comes with four years of control at a dirt cheap price while Lagares is down to two years of control for much more money, so if and when the latter is traded or walks we’ll still be set.
You don’t know the prospects are crap, everyone knows broxton is.
Lol
Offensive potential? He 30 years old.
Always with the objectivity
@Boogaloo
Do yourself a favor you trolling a$$ho!e, go to the nearest bridge and jump off of it. No one cares about the dumb $h!t you have to say. You’re a loser, will forever be a loser and you will die alone. Enjoy being irrelevant on this planet. Boy did you’re parents make the biggest mistake when they didn’t abort you. World would have been a much better place.
This is the new general manager saying this is the best I can do because our cheap ass owners would not sign off on and AJ Pollock contract.
You are DEAD WRONG. No one wants to give an injury prone Pollock 5 plus years. If you do, THANK GOD you’re not the Mets GM because we would suck year in & year out. Stop trolling.
They wanted Buxton over Pollack because…
They wanted Familia over Britton because…
They wanted Ramos over Grandal because….?
An excuse defending the Metsies on everyone of the moves, yet always failing to realize it always taking the cheaper guy.
That’s all mutt ownership cares about, and they defend the same thing thst screws them over, lol
Dumbest fan base on the planet.
Enjoy another year of being bent over by the wilpons
Pollock a bandaid. Good pickup. Frees money for another arm or two
What people forget is that band-aids stop bleeding and prevent infection thereby saving the user from pain and suffering. When a team is bleeding, a band aid is needed or else the team will die.
Can’t agree enough with Danny B. I think Pollock is delusional, and that if anyone actually gives him the length of deal and AAV he is seeking then they need their head examined.
This wont wow anyone especially mets fans and they didnt really give anything away. Wahl has good numbers in the minors that hasnt translated to the big leagues. The other two are smaller prospects who would probably rank 30-60 with the mets. Broxton has no offense. But a good defender who will be used as a platoon player. Good trade for what its worth
This trade reminds me of the Adam Lind trade to Seattle. We ended up with Peralta as the player that worked out for us
Mets are grabbing as much outfielders and seeing which ones sticks.
Worst case scenario is the Mets have mlb experience at AAA which only a short ride away now. Good move. Broxton is not expected to get 600 at bats. 5th outfielder is fine. Start against some lefties, double switches, pinch run, late inning defense, injury depth, etc. It’s not a major move, it’s mlb experienced depth. Maybe our hitting coaches can help him more than the Brewers’.
Mets are now a contender the Brewers broke his spirit but he’s a stud this year NYM will be monsters of the East I know monster I’m a Bears,Cub,even White Sox fan
Lol, ok
“Broke his spirit” by signing Cain and Yelich on the same day and making it to the NLCS.
Would sure be nice as a 4th OF. Still sore we gave up Broxton and Supak for an extra 1B who barely saw any time in the majors. I’ve already forgotten his name. Jason something.
Roger’s.
Thanks. That was such a waste of a trade as we ended up with a glut of 1Bmen and Rogers didn’t even get much of a chance.
Great trade Mets from a Yankees fan
This is their new roger cedeno
Had a higher WAR then Bryce Harper last year in 78 ABs
Ill take him!
I think Bryce is super overrated anyhow instigator.
Not a major upgrade but at least you have a CF that can go get it. The Mets could really use an upgrade at 1st or 3rd and a solid OF bat that is at least decent with the glove.
I like the Brewers side better. Broxton couldnt even hit in the PCL and was probably going to be DFA’d at some point seeing as how hes out of options.
Getting 3 guys back is better than a $50k waiver fee. Especially when one of them is major league ready.
Good Depth Move. . . He should be in the mix for the Opening Day 25. . . . . . .
Lol at the Mets fans who think they won this trade. Broxton is nothing more than a late inning defensive replacement.
Broxton is my favorite player who never was. If he was 24, he’d have so much more hype.
I can’t decide…
If he was 24, there’d be more reason for hype. Seeing as how he’s 28, “meh” pretty much applies.
His age is something many don’t see. They hear “player with four years of team control” and think he’s young. He’s the same age as Zach Wheeler and Jose Altuve.
Well dang. If a 4th OF hitting well below the Mendoza line and who barely plays can bring back a flame throwing, young bullpen arm and a promising rotation prospect, JD should float DeShields name around.
Hard to say who won this trade,, but I do see some value in Broxton as insurance in 4th out fielder and defensive replacement,,, but he is gonna have to step up offense if he wants tp play as a regular,,
As only one commenter noted, HE WAS OUT OF OPTIONS. Like Domingo Santana who the Brewers also recently traded, the Brewers were going to lose him with no return what so ever. He wasn’t a fit for the roster. They got 3 lottery tickets for him…and David Stearns does surprisingly well in baseball’s lottery.
I hope Broxton does well in NY…he’ll hit done homeruns, steal some bases and make many highlight reel catches. He’s a great personality guy as well..if he can cut down on the strikeouts even a little, be could become a fan favorite.
Exactly on the options
I’d rather keep a hard throwing prospect that might do nothing than get KB. If I’m getting a bust like him, I’m sending over a prospect or two that are statistically a bust. Not an injury bust…
First Santana now broxton. No room on the team for them, glad they will both get a shot this year. Like what the brewers got, 3 for 1 is always good.
3:1 is always good? I’d love to have you in my fantasy leagues LOL!
In the real world when someone is out of options and has no spot on the team 3-1 is always good.
Now can the Brewers trade Thames, Davis and Anderson to Yankees for Sonny Gray. Then sign Pomeranz and Brett Anderson to minor league deals
Pomeranz is not getting a minor league deal, when he could be in KC’s rotation all year or flipped to a contender at the deadline. Anderson has injury flaws but he’s probably worth a $3M gamble to get 15 decent starts out of him before he breaks again.
Broxton is the pickup the Mets will use in CF every game in late innings. Broxton is suited for the NL in that regard. I don’t think the Mets brass is sold on their OF defense. They have to cover a lot of ground and Broxton checks every box.
Though I didn’t think it would take 3 players to obtain him….
David Stearns was second in charge when the current Astros were built. He is the man who rebuilt the Brewers and got them within a game of the WS…..I’m sure the Mets just pulled one over on that guy.
David Stearns was second in charge when the current Astros were built. He is the man who rebuilt the Brewers and got them within a game of the WS…..I’m sure the Mets just pulled one over on that guy
It could just be each team acquired something they need now and both feel the value was equal.. I think that’s what they call a “trade”.
The Mets have been pretty quiet lately as far as rumors go. I think Brodie is working on something big. They are improved thus far, but still not a playoff team.
The Mets are this years 08 Marlins. Trade a for a bunch of stars, sign some starts. Win 76 games.
If they get 30 starts each out of Thor and deGrom it will be almost impossible for them to be under .500. They had stars. Don’t be jealous that (for once) they are making nice moves that will turn them into a contender.
I predict that Keon Broxton will have a better year than A.J Pollock.
A whole lot of tmnithing for the brewers best defensive player..
Cough *Cain* Cough
Best defensive player who only played the field 194 innings last year? Clearly the Brewers were fine without Broxton and his 80 at bats and 20 total games in the field.
Cespedes is what happens when the Mets give out big contracts.
I turkey don’t understand this trade. They essentially got a worse version of Lagares. Why not go after a more offensive center fielder ?
Truly*
Lagares was never good. Brixton is at least decent in the field. Both of them are not very good offensively
So does this mean the Brewers are close to signing Bryce Harper???
Fairly close. About 90 miles away.
Broxton is a defensive replacement. Not much of a hitter
This seems like a massive overpay for a 29 year old AAA OF… like they gave away 3 legit prospects… albeit not top prospects but the 17 yo SS had a shockingly strong first showing (in the DSL) while Wall has posted very impressive K/9 numbers in the minors and then also sending their 6th round pick from last season (who showed well in his first taste of affiliated ball) seems to be a pretty steep price for a 29 year old backup OF who strikes out at a stunning rate and really hasn’t put together any spectacular seasons in the majors or minors. Like I understand he’s a defensive wizard… but still — 3 legit prospects for a guy who’s ceiling is .240/20HRs and 20 SBs? And who more likely will never reach those numbers because he’ll be a bench player or back in AAA for most of the season!? Idk… seems odd to me.
If the Mets could get .240/20/70 and 20 SB out of Broxton they would get leg cramps from all the jumping up and down they would be doing.
Mets fans have to keep in mind Broxton is 28. I wouldn’t expect much improvement over a .225 avg. and striking out a third of the time.
Well, by your name you know better than me, but these ABs were very scattered, and I’d wager a disproportionate amount were against closers since he was often a late inning replacement? Realize, the Mets have NO speed, some 50 SBs in 703 careeer ABs makes any Mets fan slaver.
He’s got to get on base to steal.
414 AB in 2017, .229 avg. He didn’t hit hit when he DID get playing time.
Wahl’s “highly touted” pitching mix sucked last year. As I see it, the Brew was eyeing Valerio above all else, for a couple of years down the road.
This means the Mets will win 70 game when Cano goes down.
Good job Brodie.
All these comments from people saying things like “why not add more offense in CF”..well who exactly do you want the Mets To go get? Pollock? He’s over 30, injury prone and hasn’t replicated his best season. If he could be had on a two year deal he’d be a met already. More then two I don’t want him. As for trades; who really is there that is such a big upgrade offensively? Go get some bp help next please..
They could have gone after Mccutchen and rotated between him Conforto and Nimmo in center .Instead they’ll have Lagares Broxton and Rajai Davis all struggling to hit 200
The misconception that you need megaspeed in center is over rated. With all the scouting reports and hit charts, proper positioning takes away the gaps and the need for a ‘great’ defender who gets on base at a .280 clip. I’m fine with a healthy Conforto in center because he has great instincts. The need for another center fielder is less important than a 3b that can hit more often than 4 weeks per season. Package something significant for Andujar or sign Marwin Gonzalez. Start with Matz, Lugo, d’arnaud, Frazier…bring back in return Andujar and some blocked prospects. Plenty of free agent arms out there.
As usual, the Coupons went cheap to fill the gaping hole in their outfield. They went all in on Cano and now have no money to fill the rest of their needs so they are taking the dregs to fill the holes. First Liriano and now Broxton.
Can’t wait to see the Mets fall on their face once Thor gets hurt again, Cano struggles to play 2B, Rosario returns to his meh self, and Smith flails. More crying in Queens. At least in the Bronx they will be celebrating the Yankees being in the playoffs again.
Ok I’m going to pay myself on the back. At the beginning of the off season I said the Brewers should use Thames, Santana, Broxton,Anderson, Davies, as peices to replenish the farm system and so far they have been doing at that.
But they’ve done nothing where starting pitching is concerned. Congrats again, though
I bet you were saying that about the Brewers last year, also.
reading this crap make me think i could be a baseball star . i could make the pitcher throw 12 pitches. go 0 for 4 with 4 strikeouts.. a star is born … you people are dumb !!!
really I’m just goofing around relax
though he did post a ridiculous 11 DRS in just 134 center-field innings
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Which means exactly nothing, because advanced def metrics are worthless over small sample sizes.
What is meaningful is his total DRS over 1,675 major league innings in center. It’s 13. His UZR is just as mediocre.
What’s more interesting is the 20 homers he hit in 2017.
Low risk, possibly high reward. Not every guy on the roster is a star. Nice defense, we’ll see offense.
Not every guy is a star.
Lol, you have ONE maybe 2 if you count grampa Cano coming off his steroid suspension.
Typical cheap ass mets.
Cant wait till Philly signs 3 more guys and the Braves and Nats do something while jeff wilpon is shining his sheckles!
Ya know, if you look at Broxton’s career numbers, he has 703 Abs, which would be a very robust season, and 50 stolen bases and 33 home runs. The BA is low but maybe he has value pinch running?
Ya know, by signing Hector and Broxton, the Mets suddenly have cheaper/better versions of Lagares and Vargas. Maybe this is a precursor to take on a major contract in trade (think Cano) and dump those two ala Bruce and Swarzak in salary mitigation in the trade. That would save almost $20 million with Vargas’s buyout next year.
Or maybe the Cheap skate Mets are finished all will see their moronic fan base this is a good team, like they always do?
Lol
I have a question Lagares is a defense only guy. In Broxtons only full year 2017 he had a negative dWar. How does it make sense for him to be a defensive replacement for Lagares. Defense is not what the Mets need in cf .Offense is what the Mets need in cf
Broxton had an insane 11 DRS in like 130ish innings last year, which made him top five among centerfielders, some of whom played ten or 15 times that.
Broxton also played most of his games in a stadium where the wall heights create DRS stats. You won’t get those in New York. We need guys on base that put starting pitchers into the stretch and some speed on the bases that take away big breaking balls and sliders.
He had a barely negative .05, which is in the margin of error for that hand grenade stat. He is plus 1.9 dWAR in a very limited major league career. I agree Juan is a better glove, but Braxton brings speed and power. Full time he could easily go 20 HRs and 30 SBs.
While batting .210 with a sub .250 OBP
A far more interesting move is the Mets’ signing of Rymer Liriano. It wasn’t long ago he was considered one of the top prospects in the game.
Yeah, so were a 1000 other guys who couldnt hack it.
Let’s just sign as many has beens and never weres and pray
Seems to be part of team cheapskates plan.
Mets fans yesterday: “who is Keon Broxton?
Mets fans today: “Great move Brodie!”
Lol