5:34pm: LeMahieu is not likely to land in Milwaukee, per MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand (via Twitter). It seems the price tag is too steep after the team’s addition of Grandal.
(It’s worth noting, too, that Lowrie has now reportedly agreed to terms since this post was first published.)
3:40pm: The Brewers surprised many with a sudden agreement with free-agent catcher Yasmani Grandal last night, promising the former Dodgers All-Star $18.25MM on a one-year pact. The catching position now upgraded, the Brewers are in “heavy” pursuit of an infield upgrade, reports Jeff Passan of ESPN (via Twitter). Both second basemen and third basemen are in play as Milwaukee looks for a new player to patrol the dirt.
Adding a true second baseman would seem a better fit on the surface, as the Brewers already have a strong defensive option at the hot corner in the form of Travis Shaw. However, the Brewers did acquire Mike Moustakas last summer, shifting Shaw to second base in the process. Apparently, the team was comfortable enough with what it saw in Shaw’s 268 innings at the position — he checked in at -1 DRS and -1.5 UZR in that tiny sample, for what little it’s worth — that it’s comfortable with the idea of Shaw returning to second base in 2019 as well.
One prominent free-agent option at second base came off the board this morning when Brian Dozier agreed to a reported $9MM contract with the Nationals. Dozier seemed a strong fit for Milwaukee in many respects, and though they’d previously been tied to the former Twin, they’ll look to other options. DJ LeMahieu’s market is reportedly beginning to gain a bit of steam, and he’s one of many free-agent options for Milwaukee GM David Stearns and his staff. The trade market has no shortage of options, either; for instance, Passan reported earlier this morning that the Giants are exploring deals involving Joe Panik.
If the Brewers prefer a more versatile option who can handle multiple positions, thus preserving some flexibility, they’re in luck. Marwin Gonzalez, Jed Lowrie, Josh Harrison and Asdrubal Cabrera are among the free-agent options that can handle either second base or third base (in addition to other positions, at least in the case of the former three). With Cory Spangenberg already in the fold as a potential utility option that can handle both second and third, the Brewers’ likely focus at this juncture is to acquire a player they feel can shoulder the majority of the load at either second or third, with Shaw manning the other spot.
walls17
Mystery team alert
BrewCrew1302
for who? Machado? thats a little out there lol
drewm
The Cubs would sooner move to Mexico City than the Brewers would sign Machado. We HATES him.
IssaKnife
This is difficult to read.
badco44
Hey get in line! Boston hates him more!
lefty58
Ryan Braun and Manny on the same team is too much A-hole for any proctologist to take let alone a baseball team.
SocraticGadfly
Per an later post here, maybe the Mutts will cook up a trade with the Brew Crew? Not sure who the Amazings might want back.
nwwh
lol
coach him
Phillies should offer Hernandez. He would be a great fit for the Brewers and in return the Phillies could be stupid and ask for their top pitching prospect. Hernandez has a really solid glove and he can hit 280-.290 with above average speed.
brewcrew08
If the brewers aren’t willing to give up top arms for Bumgarner they won’t give them up for Hernandez.
eric e.
Bumgarner and Panik just seems too convenient but would be a nice move I think
juicemane
Panik is not an upgrade
cainer18
Panik and Bumgarner together? Not too sure what the Brewers have that the Giants would want, especially with Santana in Seattle nowadays.
jt3z
The giants want anybody they can get as their farm is utter garbage
cainer18
True, but this potential move would be indicative of what direction SF’s new regime will take. If they acquire near-MLB or young MLB talent, then it appears they’re retooling/aiming for contention around 2020 or 2021. If they get high-upside guys in the low minors, then it appears they’d be willing to blow the team up. At that point, we could see trades with Belt, Crawford, and certainly some arms like Smith and Watson on the horizon.
jt3z
Honestly they should have blown it up a a few years ago and gotten a good return for all of their players. I mean can you imagine what they would have gotten if they traded bumgarner before his injuries?
nuschler22
I don’t know how they can deal Crawford. He has full no trade protection. Plus he has what 14 kids?
BlueJayFan1515
Uhhhh… he has 4 kids. I had to look it up, but 14 seemed a litttle off to me.
tomh
Milwaukee’s is farm system is not exactly stellar either
twentyforty
Absolutely correct…just don’t tell Brewers fans that.
Thomas James
Other GM’s know what Milwaukee has. They have 3 young stud pitchers that have already performed well in the regular season and post season and with a fourth coming soon. Any of them would and could be a part of a very nice trade package that other GM’s would love. You can’t just look at the top 100 prospects list and say Milwaukee has crap to trade.
imgman09
Utterly not intelligent
SFGiants74
Utter Garbage? Someone is being a little overly dramatic.
BrewCrew1302
Watch Woodruff Burnes and Peralta pitch in the NLCS last year and youll get your answer there.
twentyforty
Your club is a .500 club at best. Unless you believe the incredible fortune of the final six weeks of 2018 will continue. Here’s a hint….it won’t.
tweeter02
Lol, you’re smoking crack!
2id
You have this weird fascination with pixie dust. And again, repeating something to yourself over and over and over doesn’t make it true.
gregstruth89
Cry baby cubs fan alert
juicemane
Yea the best NL teams really weren’t that good. Brewers got lucky at the right time. I think they take a big step back too
neonkeon23
how about Bickford?
giantsnut57
Isn’t he in legal or at least league trouble?
giantsnut57
Or I missed the whole ‘welcome back’ joke lol
juicemane
The Giants absolutely suck and the next 5 years aint looking so hot, so they are a lot of “wants”
cjsk49er
I’m seeing a MadBum and Panik blockbuster with Milwaukee coming soon.
dray16
MadBum is not getting dealt to anyone before the season. absolute insanity his name keeps coming up. SF is not dealing him prior to the start of the season.
Tyson’s Pet Tiger
And you know this how?
dray16
besides SF basically stating that. no one will give up enough for him and there is no incentive to deal him now. it’s not too hard to figure out
lowtalker1
He ain’t worth that much right now with just 2019 for team control. His injury history and his struggles
southbeachbully
you have no idea what offers are on the table so how can you state what the Giants might consider “enough”?
b) You’re acting as if Bum didn’t end the year on a bad note. He had a 5.28 ERA in Sept/Oct. IF he starts off to a bad start his value and his market will change.
Why not just say you “hope” they don’t trade him before the season instead of acting as if you have insider info because as far as I can tell, the Giants haven’t made any public statements stating what they will or won’t do with BumG.
Willy Mays
There is no incentive to deal him now? How do you figure that.It seems to me a team looking to make a run might give up a decent haul for him now. During the season an injury or down season destroys all the value he has
cainer18
All it takes is one team willing to raise their offer. Maybe after they snagged Grandal they’re more comfortable going all-in on a Bumgarner/Panik trade, like how they lumped their deals for Yelich and Cain last off-season.
Vedder80
Why anyone bothers commenting about “insider info” is beyond me. Of course they don’t have insider info, they are commenting fairly anonymously on an internet message board. Everyone who comments is clearly giving their opinion and to request them to start the statement by saying as much is asinine.
dray16
I wasn’t claiming insider info, researching reports on both sides can easily be done. take your info, piece it together and make an educated guess. in this case it’s not a guess, pretty easy to to see what’s happening.
algionfriddo
Don’t trade MadBum now… wait until he is injured AGAIN!
dray16
from a freak bike accident or line drive, crazy injury history indeed. get a clue, he has no injury history
brewcrew08
I’m pretty sure the injuries happened so actually he does have an injury history.
imgman09
This is Bum’s walk year,he’ll be worth more at the Trade Deadline and only will be traded if the Gmen are out of it,his injuries are from a Motorcycle and a line Drive hitting him,not worrying about injuries,if the Gmen add better Bats they will be in it,that was most of the problem last year,anyone who payed attention and watched knows that
nuschler22
Giants just got new stadium naming rights money. Maybe they will use that to extend MadBum.
I’m still calling it Willie Mays Park though.
seamaholic 2
Nah. They’ll just sign one of the billion 2B on the market. Probably hoping for Lowrie or LeMahieu but will settle for someone like Harrison.
Thomas James
Me to actually. I like that Panik is a high contact guy and Milwaukee needs a stud at the top of the rotation. Milwaukee has enough to entice SF to do it. Start with Peralta, and Ray. Then add Chase Anderson who pitched like an all star away from Miller Park but got drilled at home, plus his salary will help off set the cost of adding Madbum and Panik. Anderson would do well in their pitcher friendly park. And fans of SF shouldn’t scream too much because they will have a chance to bring Madbum back if they so choose.
kripes-brewers
Lol. You probably haven’t watched the Crew much. There are 2guys named Yelich and Cain at the top of the lineup. Both studs. Crew has plenty of Panik types. No way this is a match.
PinstripedPride
Since the Giants have a new leadership team, I could see anything happening for the right price. Milwaukee would be a good landing spot for both Bumgarner and Panik
g55s
and Wil Smith back to MIL?
Justabit0utside
He moved in with his aunty and uncle in Bel Air.
fmj
NL Central going to be very interesting this year.
canocorn
… Including Pirates, who still have a few tricks up their eye patch. No budget to speak of, but shiver ‘me timbers, Josh Bell has yet to arrive.
ewitkows
Panik doesn’t have much trade value after last year.
empirejim
The Brewers gave Grandal $18.25 Mill?????? I previously thought they did ok signing him to a one year deal. Now I think Grandal has compromising video of the Brewers ownership group. That’s the ONLY way that kind of money makes sense. LOL at the Brewers taking overpay to ridiculous levels……
vtadave
Yeah a one-year $18MM+ deal for a 3.6 WAR guy at a scarce position. Awful right?
cainer18
It’s barely over the qualifying offer, especially considering the pick they lost isn’t until pick #100 or so. There’s heaps of value in reinforcing perhaps your weakest position with a quality borderline All Star in their prime on a one-year-deal. Even if the price is fairly steep, that was a good move for Milwaukee. Besides, one year of Grandal at $18.25M will seem minuscule once Machado and Harper are making over $30M annually on long-term deals
BrewCrew1302
There is a reason this comment has 9 downvotes and zero upvotes. Youre a moron.
empirejim
LOL…. Name-calling from a guy that hasnt watched years of Grandal’s tribulations behind the plate! It’s ok, you’ll learn soon enough.
southbeachbully
It’s a one-year deal for one of the top 3 catchers on the market. It’s moronic to be upset about this deal.
If teams thought they could have Manny or Harper for 2/$80 they would likely lineup to sign them. The same for Grandal for his 1 year deal.
empirejim
Upset? I’m laughing hysterically! I’m glad the Brewers took him off the market. Best thing I’ve seen since Grandal put on Dodger Blue.
canocorn
Not a gnat-backer, but would like to see Dozier get his groove back.
HalosHeavenJJ
I thought Kinsler made sense for the Brewers. Great glove to aid the pitching staff, affordable salary.
I know he’s off the board now, but the fit seemed nice.
dray16
I thought Dozier was perfect for the Crew myself
Yankeepatriot
I would have said realmuto if grandal wasn’t signed
gomerhodge71
I still feel that Josh Harrison could be a big help for the right team. The Brewers should investigate.
joepanikatthedisco
He’ll soak up a couple hundred at bats with a .600 OPS on the Orioles, Marlins, or Giants, and then retire.
Justabit0utside
Since the start of the off season I have hoped to see Harrison in a Brewers uniform. Pretty decent player all around, would be a great veteran presence, and always seemed to play well against the Crew.
OverUnderDone
True.
bobtillman
wasn’t Rob Refsnyder originally a 2B?………
ScottRolen
Machado is still available. Phillies are “well south of $300 million” so the Brewers can get in on Manny.
Ejemp2006
Major oof! No, please, stay away, small market decade sentence to hand cuffs!
coldbeer
Because they just opened up the purse strings for a whopping $18m so now they’re going to keep going for another $36m a year for 8 years? Doubt it.
BrewCrew1302
In stearns we trust.
Ejemp2006
Milwaukee is smart small market team, seems to know windows are scarce, precious! Go for the gusto!
Good bat, top glove infielder next, yes, of course we believe. Dee Gordon or Seager from Trader Dipoto’s Mariner bag? Who is cheaper comes and then helps Brew Crew decide where for Shaw. We like, a lot?
BrewCrew1302
I have 100% faith in Stearns in whatever he chooses to do. His only bad move was Schoop and he openly admitted it was a dumb and unnecessary move to make
stevewpants
I also have the utmost faith in Stearns…but he’s made 2 bad moves to be honest. Opinions of Scooter Gennett will vary widely, but you cannot argue it wasn’t a mistake to drop him after what he’s done the past 2 seasons. It was.
Ejemp2006
Schoop floated to team with great skills, then sunk with bad attitude! Brew Crew played fun, no fun guys, don’t fit.
That’s why I like Met Toddfather for a Brewer, a lot! Gordon or Seager? Of course Mariners sell everything, anything on a trade, so coming to Brewers, plausibly.
getright11
Speak coherent English.
joepanikatthedisco
Ejemp I love your comments and your passion for baseball. Don’t let the haters and downvotes bother you. Your English isn’t perfect but it’s funny and full of vigor.
Keep it up! 🙂
Ejemp2006
Thank you, MLB is my love
stretch123
Hmmm. Jed Lowrie feels like the right fit here. Or Josh Harrison depending on the price point.
BrewCrew1302
I think the brewers are going to get a stud pitcher but I just dont see Bumgarner for some reason. Panik would be a nice fit though.
Strike Four
Lowrie isn’t going to get a better deal than 1/10, right? Brewers should do that.
phenomenalajs
Mets gave him 2/20M.
BrewCrew54
Marwin Gonzalez would be an awesome fit. Stearns likes those guys with a ton of versatility.
If not, I could see Lowrie bridging the gap here until Huira comes up.
I don’t think the Crew will pay for multiple years of LeMahieu that he’ll ask.
BrewCrew1302
Marwin is a stearns kind of player. Perfect fit imo
BrewCrew54
I can see them giving Marwin a 3 year deal. It’s hard to find a versatile defender that can hit from both sides of the plate. I’m guessing Stearns already knows a little bit about him from his time in Houston, too.
Strike Four
“It’s hard to find a versatile defender that can hit from both sides of the plate.”
Jed Lowrie says hi
BrewCrew54
…in a Mets uniform.
Strike Four
true, lol
PinstripedPride
I do see that sort of fit. Personally I’d love to see Gonzalez in pinstripes, especially if Cashman passes on Machado
Ejemp2006
Wow, great idea! Marwin for a Yankee, perfect fit, why? Because they have holes come and go, first Didi filler, then maybe Andujar filler, if 3B glove trouble grows! We like, a lot? But I agree with the crowds, Marwin, super utility, fun smile always, baseball player fits to Brew Crew culture build vector.
Rich Hill’s Elbow
I feel that Josh Harrison’s personality would fit perfectly in Milwaukee, of course Stearns would have to believe that he’s capable of bouncing back from all the injuries he suffered in 2018. If not, I could definitely see a reunion with Moustakas.
And unless the market drastically changes, I don’t see how they’ll land either LeMahieu, Gonzalez, or Lowrie, without committing multiple years and a decent amount of money, along with blocking Hiura.
And then there’s the chance of a MadBum/Panik blockbuster. Seems to good to be true, but you never know.
stubby66
So I can honestly say I have no idea what the Brewers could do in a trade unless they do a 3 team trade. I do believe they could sign Moose and maybe make a trade with Thames and/or Aguilar. I think Milwaukee would be better off at first. May 1st the line up should be catcher Grandal and Pina
First Shaw
second Huira/ Dubon
third Moose
short Arcia
outfielders Braun
Cain
Yelich
with Taylor and Perez as back up outfielders now that is eleven spots on the roster. So in a perfect world that leaves Thames Aguilar, Anderson, Davies, Saladino, Guerra and maybe Wilkerson as trade candidates to maybe get a starting pitcher
stubby66
Honestly my head hurts trying to figure everything out lol
BrewCrew1302
Stearns already has made it clear that Dubon and Huira are NOT starting next year. They need more time to develop
stubby66
That’s why I said May 1 so they will get an extra year of control sir
mikeyst13
Neither will be up by May 1 unless Huira absolutely destroys the ball in spring and in San Antonio for the first month of the season. As for your trade pieces, none of those guys other than Aguilar has much value.
BrewCrew1302
you gotta add Ben Gamel to that list. Pretty sure he is going to get a roster spot to be the 4th outfielder…
stevewpants
Stubby why are you always so high on moose and so low on aguilar? I usually agree with most of what you say but Aguilars production is greater than Mooses and it comes at a fraction of the cost.
stubby66
Trust me I want to be high on Aguilar but I do worry about the league adjusting to him and there has been concerns about his slumping in winter ball. As far as Moose I felt he had change some of the atmosphere in the locker room after his arrival. I would also like to see Anderson stay because I think him and Nelson help each other tremendously. Like I said I know it isnt perfect because I missed Gamel and I believe he is in the plans unless he is flipped. I think that Perez is replaceable too
Cheeseman Forever
Grandal comes off the books after this year, and Braun after next year. Their payroll will hit a record this year but can you blame them? (BTW they also sank $50MM into spring training upgrades but I assume that kind of capital spending gets written off over years.)
Corazon5
Can’t imagine the Brewers would be going for a third baseman with so many solid options out there at second. I mean Travis Shaw is a good player, but he is not a good fit at second. Not for an extended period of time
Payne Train
I hope the Brewers make another big splash – force to Cards to sign another top relief arm ! Maybe even explore more ways to get better
Strike Four
Lowrie on 1/10 do it do it
stevewpants
The amazins are at it again!
Strike Four
Unbelievable! I nailed the money but missed out on the years 🙂
stevewpants
Make another deal with Dipoto, offer to take dee gordons contract and give them a few prospects not named woodruff burnes hiura dubon and lets gooooo
leftcoaster
Uh, Brewers might want to focus on starting pitching.
stevewpants
On the one hand, every team can always use more starting pitching. On the other hand, did you miss last season?
simschifan
Cubs can lend Tyler Chatwood to them. They would only have to take his contract. I’m kidding btw
jm5.7
Panik, Bumgarner & Tyler Beede for Ray,Cody Ponce,Trent Grisham & Je’Von Ward
stevewpants
Love the optimism, giants hang up first.
sidewinder11
Panik and Bumgarner packages together makes a bunch of sense here, although they won’t come cheap
Strike Four
Panik and Bumgarner for Hiura? Kinda like the Hand+Cimber for Mejia trade….
stubby66
All I know is this is what I like to do discussing baseball and seeing everyone’s idea that is fun especially when no one is ripping on others ideas. especially when they change my mind about stuff
jjgreedy
I think the Brewers are looking for a stop gap at 2b. Dubon or Keston should be in the majors by the end of the year.
Psychguy
I would say LA “needs” to get the Realmuto deal done.
dray16
Brewers should have signed Dozier
joepanikatthedisco
As a Brewer fan I sincerely hope we get Panik because it’d make my username easier to explain
canocorn
It’s ALIVE!!!
Vanilla Good
#makeitmarwin
dray16
I hate the Cubs, they’re going to finish 3rd or 4th unless they do something. Their lineup is so f’n lame.
The_Porcupine
If lemahiue is too expensive, I guess marwin is out of the running too
bdpecore
I’m facilitated at al the potential options the Brewers currently have to upgrade their opening day roster. Personally, I’d like to see Gonzalez or Cabrera signed for insurance in case Arcia struggles continue. I’m also on board with bringing Moose back because like someone else already said, he brought another level of energy to the locker room/ dugout.
Ultimately it will likely come down to cost vs projected production since they already are looking at a record payroll in 2019 although they could still trade away Thames, Anderson, Davies and/or Albers to offset some of the cost.
Finally, a MadBum/Panik trade is still very doable. I think a package of Ray, Peralta or Woodruff, Lutz and Thames or Anderson would get it done.
Rich Hill’s Elbow
As a baseball fan, I’d love to see Milwaukee go all in and…
– Sign Harrison to a 1yr deal
– Sign Moose to a deal similar to Cruz’s
– Sign Keuchel to a 4yr deal with a club option
– Give up Ray (or Lutz) and Burnes for MadBum
aspenner27
I don’t think we have to much more money to spend. We should ask Miami about Starlin Castro and see if we can trade them a prospect and Thames.
david53916
As a Brewers fan who also would like to see Milwaukee go for it…
–Harrison on a one year deal? Maybe if he’s cheap. I think he is ok, and probably a good guy to have in the clubhouse, but I don’t believe his 2019 performance is likely to justify going out of the way to get him. If you’re gonna spend the money on an infielder, just open up the wallet further on go get Marwin Gonzales.
–Sign Moose? I don’t dislike the fit. He doesn’t get on base at a good clip, but he is a great source of power. It means Shaw at 2nd, but he didn’t look too bad there last year, although I prefer Shaw at 3rd. I’d still prioritize finding a 2nd baseman, but if nothing makes sense? Why not Moose?
–Sign Keuchel? Probably out of the Brewers price range, but if his price comes down, I don’t mind this move at all.
–Trade Ray or Lutz plus Burnes for MadBum? I would NOT like this one at all. I really think Ray started to put things together last season, and I think he has a real chance at being a solid MLB player in his career. I’d rather keep him, but since I absolutely would NOT trade Burnes for MadBum, I realize I’d almost have to trade Ray to even keep the discussion with San Francisco going. Burnes is a deal breaker for me on this one. Giving up Ray or Lutz is already becoming painful enough, but you have to give something to get something.
Karlander
I think Moustakas was a really solid fit for the Crew and it would be good to bring him back. You know you are going to get 20+ HR out of Moose and 80 RBI and a winning spirit. That’s not a bad combination at all.
Baumgarner would be a solid pitching add but there are still some question marks regarding health. Regardless, the Brewers truly do need another top starter. Sooner or later it catches up with you relying too heavily on youth.
I think the Grandal surprise shows Stearns and Antanasio are very serious about trying to improve this roster and that’s a great sign for fans
Danthemilwfan
I like Harrison or asdrubal. Moose is gone, I like the keuchel suggestion but forget madbum. Ray and burnes should be untouchable. Burnes is better then injury prone madbum anyway. Peralta , lutz and lower a ball guys or walk away. We have good in house options
simschifan
Did you just say a guy who pitched half a season is better than an established top of the rotation pitcher?
citizen
By “heavy” are the brewers perusing someone fat? Price coming out of retirement.
Must all mlbtr headlines be in “quotes?”
warwhatisitgoodfor
Brewers are ponying up for Haniger and gonna run him out at short. Heard it here first
jim stem
Wait for it. Phillies sign Machado and deal Franco and Kingery to the Brewers for two arms, one bullpen and a pitcher like Davies or Nelson.
guitvyankfan
Three team deal
Brewers get Miguel Andujar and Sonny Gray
Yanks get Bumgarner
Giants get prospects from both
GarryHarris
I think Dee Gordon would be the best option for the Brewers to acquire. He can play several positions well. Also, Starlin Castro and perhaps Jason Kipnis could be available; they have extra OFs to deal for Kipnis. Other than Asdrubal Cabrera, the remaining IF free agents don’t fit. I don’t think they should try to plug Mike Moustakas in again.
Vanilla Good
I agree with the exception of Marwin Gonzales.
GarryHarris
I considered him but, I don’t think Marwin Gonzalez is a large enough of an upgrade over what they already have. Just my own opinion.
22Leo
Maybe the Brewers can field an entire roster of cheaters. Their fans certainly don’t seem to mind.
Vanilla Good
Other than Braun, who we’re stuck with, who is a cheater on this roster? Should we stop being fans because one guy is dbag? Just about (probably all) every organization has had a player that’s done something to warrant hatred. I guess according to you we shouldn’t watch baseball anymore.
22Leo
Grandal. My post was in response to the suggestion of acquiring Gordon, as well. Braun isn’t just a cheater, he is one of the most despicable ones, and Brewers fans embrace it. Quite frankly, I can’t decide which fans are worse….Giants or Brewers.
Vanilla Good
Right. I’ll send a memo to the cities of Milwaukee and San Francisco not to watch their tainted organizations play baseball ever again. Oh by the way, which team do you root for?
BrewCrew54
If I were a betting man, I’d go with Cubs fan.
Porch
Here’s whats gonna happen and I’m pretty sure of it…
trade Aguilar, Burnes, Ray to Indians for Kluber
Sign Keuchel for 5 years
Sign Marwin Gonzalez for 4 years
Sign Bryce Harper for a 2 year 100mil contract
CF – L.. Cain
RF – B. Harper
LF – C. Yelich
3B – T. Shaw
1B – R. Braun
2b – M. Gonzalez
C – Y. Grandal
SS – O. Arcia
SP – C. Kluber
SP – D. Keuchel
SP – J. Chacin
SP – J. Nellson
SP – C. Anderson / B. Woodruff
Trade for Raisel Iglesias around deadline and make him the closer
$200 million plus payroll
WIN back to back WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!!! and then unload payroll
Karlander
Whatever you’re smoking, please share