JAN. 13: Athletics executive vice president Billy Beane is among those meeting with Murray today in hopes of convincing him to choose baseball over football, Bob Nightengale of USA Today tweets. General manager David Forst is also on hand, per ESPN’s Jeff Passan, who adds a decision isn’t expected to come Sunday.
JAN. 9: The Athletics are expecting Kyler Murray, the No. 9 overall pick in last year’s MLB draft but also the Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback for Oklahoma, to declare for the NFL draft this Sunday, Susan Slusser and Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle report.
Entering the draft doesn’t necessarily mean that Murray will forgo his commitment to the Athletics, but Slusser and Schulman report that one source indicated to them that Murray is indeed leaning toward selecting football as his profession rather than baseball. Should Murray go that route rather than pursuing his career as an outfielder in the Athletics organization, the A’s would get his $4.66MM signing bonus back, but they wouldn’t receive a compensatory selection in the 2019 draft. That reality, as noted by Baseball America’s Teddy Cahill at the time (Twitter link), made the selection of Murray one of the riskier draft picks in recent memory.
While many onlookers note that Major League Baseball’s guaranteed salary structure should be more enticing to Murray (or any player), that’s somewhat of a presumptuous argument. At present, the only thing guaranteed to Murray in his baseball career is that $4.66MM bonus. That’s obviously a life-changing sum of money, but Murray’s next notable payday in baseball would be nowhere in sight. He’d need to play for next to nothing for at least two seasons in the minors as he worked his way toward the Majors, then spend at least his first three seasons making roughly the league minimum before even reaching arbitration — barring an early career extension (which the A’s haven’t handed out recently and which Murray’s agent, Scott Boras, typically avoids).
Even an optimistic and aggressive timeline for Murray reaching arbitration would put him at least a half-decade away from realizing his first significant post-draft payday in baseball, and it’s far from a guarantee that he’d ever be the type of player to command significant arbitration salaries or a significant multi-year contract in free agency.
Conversely, the No. 32 overall selection in last year’s NFL draft, Lamar Jackson, signed a four-year, $9,471,648 contract with the Ravens and quickly ascended to the starter’s role in Baltimore. Certainly, there are more than pure financial considerations at play, but assuming he’s a first-round selection in the NFL draft, Murray can look at Jackson’s near-$9.5MM guarantee as a rough baseline for what he’d be promised. (In reality, it’d be slightly higher, as draft bonuses in the NFL increase incrementally each year just as they do in baseball.) As for fans hoping to see this generation’s version of Bo Jackson or Deion Sanders, the report from Slusser and Schulman flatly indicates that there’s “no possibility” of Murray playing both sports.
If Murray does ultimately choose the NFL over MLB, the Athletics would still retain his baseball rights in the event that he ever chose a change in career path (as was the case with the Rockies and Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, though the Yankees now control Wilson’s rights following a 2017 trade). But, it’d be a discouraging blow for the A’s, who surely envisioned the sizable commitment they made to Murray as having a legitimate chance of persuading him to pursue a baseball career.
xabial
Love this. Pursue your dream, kid. (Not an A’s fan.)
Leemitt
Completely agree. The kid should do exactly what he wants to do.
rycm131
If he flames out in the NFL, he can always go back to baseball in 3-4 years
ColossusOfClout
Uh, no he couldn’t. Not if he wants to make it. Now is the time to get started on learning his craft in the minors not when he’s 25, 26 years old.
pt57
He can try, but he’d be in his mid-20s just starting out against younger players.
HardWorkingAmerican
He signed a contract to play baseball. Is that not his dream? He had to of known what was going to go down. He was gonna be on a good team and Im sure he expected himself to put up good numbers. I don’t know if he expected the heisman but now if he spurns the A’s he’s gonna look like a total d-bag.
Breezy
Winning the Heisman changed everything.
J.D.
Another RG3 One hit and he will wish he played baseball.
xXabial
sure….ask that same qb in their minor leagues
xabial
“sure….ask that same qb in the minor leagues”
Tim Tebow refused to play any other position other than QB. He already made a lot money.
This kid might be more amenable to that, but way, way down the line.
Matt Galvin
Bo Jackson,Deion Sanders,Brian Jordan played MLB/NFL in same season so he can to.
ffjsisk
None of them were quarterbacks. A lot more work goes into that position.
RunDMC
And none of them were as short as Murray who is listed at 5’11” but is closer to 5’9″. Kid has a big arm, but 1 incredible years against Big 12 defenses does not a NFL career make. I guess he can always go back to the A’s (or another team).
24TheKid
Baker also had an incredible year against big 12 defenses. I think if Murray goes to the right team he’ll be fine. He needs to be treated like Russel Wilson who wasn’t asked to do anything his first year but hand the ball off. Which makes me think he could be a good fit for the Jags.
TheFixIsIn
Not to mention…he only played ONE full season of college baseball as a starter. Boras is the master of inflating value — I’m not sure that kid will thrive in either professional sport. And I agree with the first poster…he will surely look like a d-bag for declaring.
tsolid 2
Both you look like D-bags for being jealous of a kid with options. So what he signed a contract? If he decides he doesn’t want to play, then he doesn’t get his money. Disparaging someone for exploring their options is the biggest d-bag thing in this case.
fieldsj2
Your absolutely right. He doesn’t have the height or frame for the NFL. There’s no way he’s 5’11 194lbs. It only takes a year to get tape on him and NFL, D coordinators will eat him alive
fieldsj2
Your absolutely right. He doesn’t have the height or frame for the NFL. There’s no way he’s 5’11 194lbs. It only takes a year to get tape on him and NFL, D coordinators will eat him alive..
Priggs89
“So what he signed a contract? If he decides he doesn’t want to play, then he doesn’t get his money”
And the team that signed him gets bent over. Seeing as I’m not an A’s fan, I don’t particularly care, but it’s ridiculous that they’d get absolutely no compensation.
bradthebluefish
Money isn’t the problem. It’s that the A’s gave up a 9th overall pick for this kid that the A’s will never get back. That’s where it becomes a d-bag move.
RunDMC
Don’t feel sorry for the A’s. They knew the risk with the pick. There was info already out there that he was going to be the starter in Norman – and you would naive not to think a Heisman could have been possible considering he replaced the Heisman winner. Top picks are typically safe and they decided to have risk. Now they might pick differently in the future.
Houston We Have A Solution
Then we might as well strip the braves of their 9th overall selection in this year’s draft. They knew there were “risks” when selecting Carter Stewart not knowing his full medical history. They shouldnt be rewarded for failing to sign a draft pick they chose to draft and ignore not knowing all his medical.
Not so fun when the shoes on the other foot.
grantbonner
Yeah, but the Braves got the 9th pick in the 2019 draft because they didn’t sign him. The A’s won’t get that pick back because they signed Murray.
grantbonner
Scratch that, I read that wrong. Apologies.
RunDMC
According to Braves bear writer Mark Bowman in a 7/6/18 they could not get his medical records before they selected him. How then would they know about ligament damage? The difference in the 2 situations is Braves drafted someone that had an undisclosed concern that could effect his longterm value, while Murray had not had an incredible season at OU and assured the team his chosen career was baseball after playing 1 year of football. That should have been a red flag already enough not to take him in the 1st rd. Braves provided the 40% necessary to get next years pick and played by the rules. Not sure how they equate.
RunDMC
Bowman is the beat* writer, but is often confused with a bear. Lol
rocky7
Wow, tsolid excuse everybody for voicing their opinion….maybe you should practice what you preach and let free speech lead the way!
thebluemeanie
He put up 49 against UCLA and 34 against Alabama. I think he’ll be fine. BOOMER SOONER!
adamontheshore
People, especially young people, often change their minds and considering that he is not contractually obliged to play baseball he should do what he wants to do (remember that he is potentially giving up millions). He does not look like anything close to a d-bag. The A’s knew what they were getting into, and while he may have said things that made it seem like he was committed to baseball, don’t most of us do that when we are applying to jobs? I have, so why shouldn’t he be able to do the same? He is doing what he feels is best for him and the rest of his life, no matter what that decision ultimately is.
tsolid 2
No he’s not gonna look like a d-bag. He’s gonna look like a super talented kid that has win/win options and will make the best decision for himself. If he doesn’t show up, then he doesn’t get bonus money. Don’t hate on the kid b/c he has options.
KnicksFanCavsFan
i disagree. im assuming teams considering drafting him in the 1st round some directly to him to weigh whether or not he wanted to play either sport. they must have been told he wanted to play baseball. if he chose football then the a’s wasted a 1st rnd pick. i assume they might get an additional 1st rnd next year but still.
brian214
You would be wrong in your assumption. They signed him, they retain his rights regardless of his next step. Sure, maybe he might have to repay money (not even sure if that’s the case).
TheFixIsIn
Yes. He has to return his 4.6 million signing bonus.
tsolid 2
Well… he didn’t play football against his will, did he? So obviously he wanted to play football. So, with him playing football, the situation changed. It happens. That’s what having options will do for people. At the end of the day, they took a gamble, so we’ll see what happens
zpgreen
I think differently on this than most, but I’m of the thought that Murray and Boras made a very smart decision given that he could have sustained an injury playing college football that alters his future ability to play sports. It seems pretty clear and has for a while that Murray has preferred football even if only slightly. Why else would you go back to college when getting guaranteed money like he did to play baseball? Shorter timeline to the pros for football and it seems his passion leans towards football. Sign the guaranteed money and have access to an MLB medical staff if needed, yet try to bolster your football stock. Seems like a no brainer to me.
thebluemeanie
“…had to OF known”, huh?
wrigleywannabe
And Oakland knew the risks, too.
No one looks like a jerk, except you.
pplama
The A’s didn’t draft him 9th and pay him nearly $5mil on blind faith.
For ANY team to draft him in the top 10, promises had to have been made. MLB Scouts and FO’s do their homework.
It’s clear Murray and Boras did not hold up their end of the bargain.
dshires4
They. Let. Him. Play. College. Football.
He then played, dominated, and put himself in a very good position for an NFL future. If there were promises made, they weren’t in a contract. If it were contractually binding, this wouldn’t even be a discussion.
So yes, the A’s did draft him on the blind faith that he would choose baseball.
Eta34
It’s clear? How is it clear. Please educate us.
dugdog83
Spot on
petrie000
If Tim Tebow can retroactively change his childhood dream based on whoever’s willing to pay him, why can’t Murray?
clepto
Yes, pursue your dream. Dont honor commitments already made. Stupid comment and your tone would absolutely be different if this was a Yankee draft pick. Grow up.
xabial
Jameis Winston had a clause in his contract specifically prohibiting him from playing baseball, how important was he? #1 in 2015 NFL draft
A’s did the exact opposite. Thanks for showing the world your ignorance. Grow up.
cubsfan2489
Stop saying “this kid” when he’s probably older than you.
clepto
Jamesis was a 15th round draft pick. How in gods green earth is that the same value as a 1st round pick??? Answer it. Just try.
So, to use your words, thanks for showing the world your ignorance. Again, a $4M commitment must not mean much to you, unless he was a Yankee #1 draft pick. Grow up.
TheTrotsky
Lol Jameis Winston was drafted first overall in 2015. You’re stupid.
24TheKid
He’s talking baseball draft.
rrddbb44
A’s should have taken a hard line and not allowed him to play football this year if they wanted to mitigate the risk. It’s his life, gtfo with your judgement from the couch.
If you get a job that you’re happy with and agree to start in 6 months, then 4 months later the company you’ve always wanted to work for offers you the job you’ve always wanted with the strong likelihood of more money, wouldn’t you take it?
clepto
Using your logic, couch warrior:
You ask your girlfriend to marry you. She agrees. You settle down, buy a house, and have a child. Girl of your dreams from your childhood comes along. She asks you to leave your wife. We all know your answer, since you have no value of commitment.
This isnt a regular job….fyi. So your analysis was far too simplified.
Let me ask you this: exactly HOW do the As stop him from going to the NFL prior? Take away his bonus? Oh, that will happen already. Force him to quit football in August? Really??
The fact of the matter is this was a good faith agreement, in which, apparently one party didnt negotiate in good faith.
Here endth the lesson.
MrStealYoBase
It was a condition of him agreeing to the As bonus that they would let him play football in the fall.
MrStealYoBase
If you have the opportunity to make real money in baseball as well, I don’t understand choosing football. He might only ever see half the money he would have if he went to the NFL but at least he won’t have neurological damage and need a full time nurse by the time he’s 50.
petrie000
He also might be out of a job after making barely minimum wage for 5 seasons
Baseball’s only really better once you make the majors. In football you’re making league minimum at worse from day 1
So yeah, as the article said, it’s not really as clear cut as people assume.
milkman
I love you, Kyler
dugdog83
Even on a trade rumors site there’s a line, and you crossed it.
Slipknot37
Cant say oakland didnt see this as a possibility. Hell of a risk. But if he wants to do football, go for it
thomps07
Why can’t he play both? It’s been done before.
Slipknot37
“leaning toward selecting football as his profession rather than baseball”
he could always do both but it doesnt sound like itll turn out that way
arc89
At the time it wasn’t that big of a risk for the A’s. He wasn’t even named the starting QB for them. His name wasn’t even mentioned to be drafted. The NFL and college ball are 2 different things. Going against 350 lb linemen everyday is not as easy as in college. Let him try the NFL and in 2 years he will be back with the A’s in minor ball if not hurt.
Slipknot37
@arc89 His name wasnt in mock drafts because everyone assumed he would play baseball. at the time he was drafted, Teddy Cahill says, “Either the A’s know something about Kyler Murray’s mindset that no one publicly knows or they just took the biggest risk in the draft that I can remember.” Links there in the article too. He can always return to baseball since oakland will have his contract rights. But whats risky is, if he indeed does go to football, is what oakland could have gotten with that draft pick. Its a pick they wont get back
dshires4
I’m just guessing that your profile picture is the Whitechapel logo and I’m just inclined to agree with anything you say now.
arc89
I think it was more the A’s were looking outside the box for a big upgrade. Nobody even thought he would be close to a Heisman winner. Still not sold that he can hit in the bigs. His athleticism shows he could be a great CF with a great arm. A’s took a gamble and losing a 1st round pick if he never plays for them in a big they gambled and lost.
Slipknot37
Lol. Thanks, dshire. I have a tattoo of that logo on my leg
Cashford64
I don’t think it’s as easy as it sounds. In fact, it doesn’t even sound that easy.
YankeesWarriorsPatriots
And everyone blasted me a few weeks back when I said he should pursue his dream of the nfl. Good job kyler and prove the doubters wrong
basebaIl1600
Warriors will sign him to replace Durant next offseason
YankeesWarriorsPatriots
The patriots will sign all 3. Harry agrees
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
Yeah, well, you certainly didn’t have kind words to say when I told you about my dreams to play in the NFL.
of9376
He’s not even that good at baseball . I’m not sure I understand the A’s thinking when they drafted him. .296, 10 and 47 in 51 games. Not exactly first round , not even top 5 rounds.
Steve Adams
Evaluating any prospect on stats alone is generally misguided — and that’s even more true of amateurs (especially if we’re talking batting average and RBIs). There’s exit velocity, launch angle and Trackman data available for amateur players, and they’re evaluated and drafted based on their athleticism, speed, explosiveness, makeup and dozens of other elements that won’t come through in a standard box score.
Beyond that, Murray is tougher to compare to other baseball prospects because he’s yet to zero in his focus on one sport and has still been playing two sports at a high level.
Oakland was pretty clearly betting on his freakish athleticism, raw tools, makeup and general baseball aptitude/IQ when they drafted him.
kidaplus
“Oakland was pretty clearly betting on his freakish athleticism, raw tools” — as a White Sox fan who saw many a first round pick… including one that was a college football player.. taken for those exact reason — it’s usually a bad bet… like really bad…especially when you take college football player centerfielder two picks before a CF named Mike Trout.
Tho he was probably ahead of all those guys baseball-wise… those numbers are pretty good considering he’s in shoulder pads from August to Jan. That speed/pop combo is tantalizing.
Priggs89
As a fellow White Sox fan – unlike Murray, none of the guys Kenny drafted could actually play baseball, unfortunately.
wrigleywannabe
That would project to 30 and 141 over 163 games.
If you want to just use stats, you defeat your own arguement.
khopper10
What about 162, though?
Groucho
He’ll make more money up front in the NFL, but the long, guaranteed money is in the MLB.
jmorrison8
… if you’re better than replacement level.
nymetsking
assuming he even makes it.
Steve Adams
For the top 0.5 percent of professional baseball players.
Chad Henne has started a total of 26 games in the NFL since 2010 and has earned $29MM in that time ($34MM in his career).
Mark Sanchez has nearly $75MM in career earnings.
iverbure
It’s not even debatable if your goal is earning potential you choose the nfl if you’re a 1st round qb pick. Even backing up you make insane amount of money frankly it’s probably better to be a careee back up if you wanna walk when your 50
jbigz12
Well Sanchez was taken before the rookie contracts were fixed but Henne is a good comp. QB is the only spot in football where you can make the argument it’s a better choice for earnings power. Average QBs make very real dollars. He’s not going to see any more $$$$ from the A’s until he hits the big leagues which could be 3-4 years from now. And even then he’s going to be making less than 600K a year for the first 3. If this was pre-2011 it’d be even more egregious. Sam Bradford’s career earnings are sickening.
xabial
Hi Steve. I am not disputing your facts.
Sanchez was given infamous “apology” extension, for “no hard feelings” after failing to land Peyton
After back-to-back AFC championship game, Mark Sanchez was ultimately a clown show. As a diehard Jets fan, this franchise hasn’t seen the Superbowl, let alone won it in 50 years — using Sanchez — the #5 overall pick in the 2009 NFL draft is bad comp.
A better comp, would be (funny Also QB) Jackson — last pick 1st round of last year’s NFL draft. Lamar’s NFL guaranteed as #32 overall last yr 8M+ Nearly double Murray’s $4.66MM A’s signing bonus
Steve Adams
I literally spelled out the Lamar Jackson comparison in the initial version of the post that was published.
Sanchez was referenced just to show that you don’t really need to be all that good in the NFL to earn substantial money. I could just as easily have pointed out Matt Schaub’s near-$100MM in career earnings. You’re reading too much into the general sentiment I was conveying.
khopper10
Yet another victim of xabial refusing to read the article before commenting.
arc89
So Steve Adams let’s see how good your baseball knowledge is? What NFL QB was drafted by the A’s and went on to have a long career in football?
clepto
Comment of the week. He is like a gnat on the dogs junk.
hiflew
Money is not everything. You also have to factor in long term health. CTE is not a big problem with former baseball players.
mike156
Steve, as a long-suffering Jets fan, now in “wince and watch” phase, your Mark Sanchez reference reminds me of why Sundays can be so difficult.
realist101
A lot of Sanchez’s career earnings are driven by being a top 5 pick under the old NFL draft salary system that no longer exists. The system changed in 2011 and dramatically cut the rookie contract values for top 1st round picks.
Sanchez also, whatever his problems as a QB, was evaluated as good enough that teams have seen fit for him to start 73 games in his career.
DarkSide830
Even fairly mediocre QB’s still make money in the NFL and always are in demand. You will probably make more money as a backup QB then as x outfield prospect, and given his college production at QB and OF, it looks so far like he’s far better as the former.
Vizionaire
mlb should pay better for the minor leaguers. they should also build dorms for the kids.
Soldierofgod619
Easier to make it straight to the NFL than coming up through various levels of the minors. Probably gets a bigger offer. Sucks for the As tho if he does go the football route
imindless
Sadly this kids “talent” doesnt translate to nfl very well. “Dual threat” qbs dont have a long shelf life, just ask rg3. He stands to make less guaranteed and be at risk of a career ending injury playing in the nfl. Smart play would have been to do what jeff samardzja did.
basebaIl1600
Why is talent in quotations. Hes talented, just because he’s short doesn’t mean you put it in quotations.
imindless
Umm limitations with arm strength lol, short relys on his legs he looks just like johnny manziel without the off the field issues. Just saying he could and will most likely have a serious injury playing the way he does in college. Also most of the dollars arent guaranteed whereas in baseball most if not all are guaranteed. Everyday outfielders make bank in the mlb and less risk of serious injury. If he does make jump he will wash out in a year or two and latch on to some minor league team like tebow.
Vizionaire
aaron rodgers was considered to have weak arms though with great accuracy. he turned out to be a great dual threat qb.
Vizionaire
but to see those real dollars in mlb it takes, at least 4-5 years if not longer.
imindless
Rodgers was viewed as a great prospect that was undervalued at cal and undersized at 6’2.
iverbure
What? Back up QBs is the best spot in the nfl. You get a insane amount of money and don’t even get hit. Someone on the radio said the average back up QB with a 7 year career made more than 40 mil. That’s a insane floor. If you choose the nfl over Mlb you do it because you’re a first round qb your earning potential is much greater. Any other position choose Mlb.
YankeesWarriorsPatriots
tom “dual threat” brady says hello. 1000 yards rushing.
jbigz12
He’ll make more “guaranteed” in the NFL. A first round rookie QB is guaranteed at least 9 million bucks. He’s only getting 5 in hand from Oakland.
jbigz12
Mike Vick was only stopped by dogfighting. Steve young made it awhile. Cam Newton seems to be doing alright. Russell Wilson has been A-okay. We haven’t seen that many dual threat QBs make it because everyone looks for the 6’6 guy who throws 70 yard bombs off his knees a la Joe Flacco. There’s no reason Kyler couldn’t model his game after Russ and not take off 15 times a game. If he can actually complete passes unlike Lamar Jackson in his rookie year you could really have something special. I don’t know why RGiii became the end of the dual threat QB discussion. We’re seeing more and more. Josh Allen starting making some huge strides as well.
jbigz12
The game is moving toward a mobile QB and away from your pocket passer like The Manning’s, Brady, Roethlisbergers Brees’ etc. Even the guys who don’t tuck it and run very often like Mahomes or Wentz have the capability to do so. The game is moving toward a more athletic QB. No reason Kyler isn’t as good of an option as almost any other guy in this draft.
imindless
Josh allen is trash, so are lamar jackson, and watson. Did you see how exposed in the playoffs when teams shut down the run? Sure you can use the argument that all qbs use there legs to extend plays but thats only when they have too. The next wave of pocket passers still exist, carr,mahomes,goff,wentz,winston, darnold. Not to mention matt ryan, rivers, big ben are considered the top qbs in the league. Another example is marriota, the dudes injuried constantly because of extended plays with his legs. Its not to say it isnt effective but from an invest standpoint pocketpasser are safer. To recent memory the only dual threat to win a chip was seahawks with wilson, most wash out after a couple years.
realist101
NFL teams do like quarterbacks with mobility, but first and foremost they essentially all want a QB to be a quality passer. The NFL is very much a passing league – in terms of play-calling and yardage – and only has become more so in recent years. In the 2018 regular season, the NFL pass / run ratio was 59-41. Fifteen years ago is was more like 55-45.
Even most of the mobile QB’s have prototypical NFL QB size. Carson Wentz is 6′ 5″, 235 pounds. Lamar Jackson is 6′ 3″, 212 pounds. Murray is listed at Oklahoma football’s website at 5′ 10″, 195 pounds with a common view that he’s actually smaller than that. If he’s really more like 5′ 8″ or 5′ 9″, there’s basically zero history of NFL QB’s of that height having success. Russell Wilson is even taller than that – he’s listed at 5′ 11″. He’s not just the only NFL starting QB listed at shorter than 6′ 0″, I’m pretty sure he’s the only NFL QB period who is listed shorter than 6 feet.
Teams gravitate toward QB’s who fit the mold of QB’s who have succeeded in the NFL, including being tall enough to see over and throw over lineman. Murray has arm strength, but he also has questions about how his accuracy, ability to make tight window throws, and ability to work through progressions would translate to the NFL.
I think it looks more like a profile of a player who would be seen as a developmental NFL QB with a backup plan of utilizing his athleticism as a gadget player (or maybe even slot WR) if he doesn’t pan out as a QB. It’s not whether he’d be drafted at some point, but how high he’d be picked. What Adams fails to point out is that, going by guaranteed value in 2018 NFL rookie contracts, Murray’s guaranteed money falls below his A’s signing bonus very early in the 2nd round (about the 35th overall pick). If Murry falls to the 3rd or 4th round, there’s no question that his A’s signing bonus represents vastly more money than his NFL guarantee.
wrigleywannabe
Dual threat does not have to mean running more than a few times a game.
He lasts one year in rhe NFL and he makes more than he’s guaranteed in baseball
Toakland
What a coward. Passing up an opportunity to play in a beautiful ballpark to be a backup to David Carr.
iverbure
What a brutal opinion
basebaIl1600
Yes the smelling the sewage in the coliseum is really hard to pass up. Can’t believe he made this choice, he could have played in the gorgeous coliseum!
jbigz12
He could’ve done both if the Raiders didn’t wise up and leave for a bearable location.
arc89
Raiders left for a free $ billion from Vegas property owners. Each Vegas property owners will end up paying a extra $1000 in property tax. Now that is using the system for NFL welfare pay outs. Davis made the move 10 years ago by buying the naming rights and nickle and dime the city of Oakland on revenue. Good riddance to the raiders.
iverbure
“While many onlookers note that Major League Baseball’s guaranteed salary structure should be more enticing to Murray”
What? Why change rules to suit a very select few athletes? Unless science can reverse CTE more and more athletes in the future will choose baseball over football.
indiansfan44
With the research into CTE it could change everything. The more we learn about it and the way things are changing in our country who knows what the future holds. We already have heard former players and even hall of fame players say they wouldn’t let their kids play because of the issues they are going through now. I don’t see it being soon but football as we know it now might be totally different or not exist in the future. I’m honestly surprised they haven’t tried to stop kids from playing because of “child endangerment” from the head injuries.
oaklandfan22
I still don’t get why the A’s drafted this guy ninth when there was even a slight possibility he might play football. You’d think they would want to be 100% he’d play baseball with picking him 9th overall. Sometimes I just don’t understand the moves the A’s make and this is just one example, waste of the 9th overall pick.
iverbure
That’s what I said at the time watching it, than Harold Reynolds says the A’s got the steal of the draft! That guy is the absolute worst when it comes to draft analysis. He watches most of the kids at max once and tries to provide expert scouting information. Callis and Mayo basically contradict everything he says right after he says it. For whatever reason the tv networks keep shoving Reynolds down everyone’s throats when he’s peaked at Mlb tonight. He’s grown on me when I see him on offseason morning show but keep him out of the booth on fox and get him off the draft table.
atlbraves2010
I’m pretty sure if he was 100% committed to baseball that he would not have been available at 9
Vizionaire
mlb teams draft many high school kids fully knowing they could go to colleges to get better.
Priggs89
And if they choose college, the MLB team gets basically the same draft pick the following year as compensation… Not really the same…
tharrie0820
Because they were sure he would play baseball. Hell, he signed a contract saying he’d go baseball full time after his last year of college FB! You’re a fool if you think he got drafted without the A’s having extensive talks with him on whether or not he was ok with this.
TheFixIsIn
What I don’t understand is…ANY other person I have ever known that has gotten drafted as a college junior (and I’ve known A LOT), didn’t have the option to go back to college. Why did he have that option after ONE baseball season? I just don’t get it.
ramon garciaparra
Being the ninth pick in the baseball draft is no guarantee of success. Most number nines since 2000 have been marginal pitchers with Mike Pelfrey and John Danks as the better ones. Javier Baez May have been the best pick of the bunch. Many of the picks were total busts. So the A’s rolled the dice but it won’t set the franchise back if Murray goes NFL. Wouldn’t it be cool if the Giants selected Murray at 6? An offense with Murray, Beckham, and Barclay would be very exciting to watch.
sithdude
Curious, how long would the A’s maintain his rights?
nutbunnies
Even a few years ago, everyone said the smart choice is to pick baseball. Yes the wait is tough, but the reward long term is so much greater.
Now we have 26 year old superstars being ignored by most of the league, and top tier catchers having to settle for a 1 year deal. The owners are truly shooting themselves in the foot here.
jbigz12
Grandal did it to himself by turning down a great offer from the Mets. He’s still getting 18 million for that one season. All he has to do is perform again and he could easily get a 3/40 next year.
kidaplus
Here’s the list of guys choosing football over baseball where their chances for success in one is as good as the other —
Kyler Murray … maybe.
End of list.
This isn’t an issue… there may be a few guys a decade who legitimately face choosing between being first round in this sport or that one.
Guys who possess the skill sets to play both at the highest of the highest level are way rarer than one in a million… the owners might be shooting themselves in the foot in other areas… but it is in no way gonna result a damaging exodus from the talent pool to another sport.
It’s like actors who want to be musicians and musicians who want to act… the majority of attempts are failures… both are entertainers, but it’s a different set of skills.
arc89
Bo Jackson? If he gave full time to baseball he would never been hurt and be in the hall of fame today. If you never seen him play baseball you missed out on a guy who had all 5 tools and didn’t even scratch the surface of how good he could have been.
wrigleywannabe
yeah, the owners made him turn down the 4 year deal.
There is no guaranteed reward
baseballhobo
Just add him to the list of failed first round picks for the A’s. Weeks, Green, Choice, and now Murray. No big deal.
JJB
If it was any team other than Oakland, maybe he would reconsider. It’s just not an enticing city or stadium to have as your goal of making the Major Leagues.
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JJB your exactly right!! If he was drafted by the Yankees dodgers he’d be playing baseball!!
sethesq
John Elway might disagree with you
iverbure
Elway agent used the Yankees to manipulate the colts into not picking him.
arc89
JJB with the last place team you cheer for Murray would never have signed in the first place. Their last top pick never played in the MLB. I guess all that bitterness of watching bad baseball made you a negative person.
DougieJones
haha, what a waste of a draft pick. Poor decision by Murray too if he picks football. Baseball is safer with more earning potential and longer career potential.
wrigleywannabe
And a bigger potential to never hit the pay day, other than the bonus.
axisofhonor25
Bo Jackson would be proud!
LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngels
I’m pretty sure Bo said he wouldn’t play football if he could go back and make the choice. He doesn’t want his kids playing football. All of the concussions. You’ll pay for it later down the road.
davidcoonce74
Plus, and although Jackson’s injury was somewhat of a freak, it can’t have helped him to be basically playing two sports at the highest level year-round. That has to take a toll on even the best athletes. The other guys mentioned – Sanders and Jordan, each sort of chose one over the other. Deion wasn’t much of a baseball player and only played part-time during the seasons he did both., while he was a hall-of-fame NFL player. Jordan only played football for three seasons, signed a contract with St. Louis in which he was forbidden to play football, and then had a fairly long and productive major league career., getting MVP votes in three separate years. I doubt he would have lasted 15 seasons in the NFL. And, as was pointed out, none of those three were quarterbacks.
tyrone
The A’s are not going to pay for a first round talent if they can help it and they saw a way to save face and ultimately get their money back. Murray is not going to make it in either sport, though his pay day in the NFL will set him for life. His uncle was a bust with the Giants and Kyler is the exact same model. No power, probably no plate discipline, a great athlete at the amateur level where pass defenses are porous, but the NFL will crush his out of pocket “judgement”. In the Oakland Mausoleum, his speed would be an asset, but if his routes defensively are bad, he’s worthless. He’s a better Jemile Weeks, which is saying nothing. Let him go.
csspackler
How are the A’s getting their money back?
Steve Adams
As outlined in the post above — they’ll get the $4.66MM back if Murray chooses the NFL.
That, however, was assuredly not part of the calculus in their decision to draft Murray, though, which Tyrone seems to be erroneously implying.
tyrone
I’m not implying it, I’m stating it explicitly. The only guy like Murray that made it with the A’s was Ricky Henderson. There will be no more Ricky Hendersons in our life time. The Murray model doesn’t play well in Oakland and Beane et al knows that. Best case scenario is in the fullness of time he becomes a wily vet like Raj Davis. How likely is that from a high profile character like Murray who has likely never been told “no” in his entire life. This is a ploy. The A’s do these kinds of things to stay afloat.
arc89
Tyrone is a A’s hater nothing more. There has been nobody like Henderson in all of baseball since him. Closest was Bonds who had more power but less speed. How is that a ploy by the A’s taking a chance on a guy most people never heard of last year?
tyrone
No he is not an A’s hater.. I’ve been bleeding green and gold since ’68 when they got here. This is tough love. Look at the team now: A bunch of big guys who go up there to launch, not much else. That’s how they have always won. Walks and taters. Smothering defense also is required, which they are working on. Murray is a poor fit for that approach unless he walks a ton and steals bases at an 85% clip. Is he going to be Coco Crisp? I’ll take that. Not likely, but that will do. (Presumably, as a quarterback, he’ll have a much better arm than Coco- hell, I have a much better arm than Coco. So does everybody on this thread.)
LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngels
I just would rather play baseball if I had a chance to choose. Possibly a longer and safer career. Less chance of concussions.
pplama
Now we know the answer to the future trivia question- “Who was the last MLB 1st round draft pick permittted to play a season of College Football?”
Uncool move by Murray and Boras.
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I’d speculate Boras wants him to play baseball because he knows there’s a great chance for him to cash in also! On MLBTV I seen Boras saying this kid is playing baseball!!
Joseph12992
I’m not coming at anybody here but I really do not understand all the vitriol in the comments section, If he wants to go play football no skin off my neck. That being said someone is not objectively “wrong” for saying he is shirking on his agreement abit. I know he is young but if a team did something like that(some sort of equivalent) everyone would be up in arms. that ALSO being said he will probably make much more in the NFL so I get it.
iverbure
Bitter A’s fans that are entitled and think he’s selfish for not playing baseball for whatever reason. Nothing more than that. This whole situation regardless of how it shakes out will scare teams away from taking a high profile nfl prospect. Be wiser to gamble later in the draft than in the top 10.
Now a interesting hypothetical is, what If you could trade picks in mlb. It’s something that’s definitely needed in mlb in my opinion. Often you see teams pick a Guy way higher than they think he should do for 2 main reasons. They don’t think he’ll last until there next pick. Or because they’ve worked out a deal with the guy to take a significant discount on the slot bonus.
Trading picks just top 10-5 rounds would be necessary would add a ton of viewers to draft day, be better for the players as I think the teams would have less leverage.
Vizquel13
Stick with baseball kid your body will thank you when your 40
bravesfan
Am I missing why he can’t play both like other greats in the past? Bo Jackson, Brian Jordan … I mean it’s possible
joshb600
Teams probably want full focus on their individual sport, plus the risk of injury in one sport means getting paid in the other to not be able to perform.
Players are getting paid way more than they used to, and playing one sport can weigh you down and burn you out. Imagine playing 2 at a high level. Not to mention long term effects of football on the head and body in general.
Back then,, drug testing was a lot more laxed if non existent, so guys like Bo Jackson could take whatever they want and recover quicker.
davidcoonce74
Brian Jordan was an NFL player for three seasons, then quit to play baseball full-time.
realist101
Several points:
– Jordan only played for the Falcons for three seasons during which he was a minor league baseball player.
– It’s debatable whether any NFL team would go for that today as playbooks have become more complicated.
– Building on point 2, maybe a very talented RB (Jackson) or defensive back (Deion Sanders) would be an exception, but no team would allow its QB to miss training camp and other preparation time by playing baseball.
daved
The rules in the NFL for QBs now is like touch football. Look at the ages of these guys.. They are playing well into their late 30’s and 40’s. The QB position is the highest paid in the league. All you have to do as a QB is get to that 2nd contract after 4 years and strike it rich.. In baseball, Murray is looking at 2-3 years in the minors, then 6 years in Majors before FA, and he still is looking at uncertainty with the CBA . There could be a strike or lockout in the next 2 years. The only way I recommend this is if a guy is a QB, which Murray is.
batty
I’m a baseball guy, so i’m biased. I want the elite athletes to play baseball over any other sport. But i’m not Murray and i’m not, nor ever have been, an elite athlete. He should do whatever it is he wants to do, if he can, and live his life as he chooses.
Who knows…maybe he’ll be that very rare QB that size isn’t as important and can have a long and prosperous career. But at 5’8″ or 5’9″, i just can’t see how that’s gonna work out. We talk about “lottery ticket” prospects in baseball often. I would think that’s an apt description for Murray going into the NFL because of his size.
Good luck to him, whatever he decides.
Bunselpower
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking too. I remember Chase Daniel, he was possibly the best passer in college at the time, but at 5′-10″, didn’t get a second look and is now a backup. Now, that’s a good gig if you can get it, no doubt. But is that the ultimate aspiration here?
There’s a reason these shorter guys aren’t as common. When the offensive and defensive linemen are 6-2, a 5-10 QB can’t see the field as well. You have to be an absolutely killer passer to make it, and even then, there is only one starting QB under 6′ in the league, Russell Wilson.
Maybe he makes it, and I hope he does. But I do know that that athleticism will keep him in demand and get him more shots than your average guy in baseball, as well as being a top 10 pick.
But, ultimately, it is his choice, and I am a biased guy. The NFL generates a lot of revenue and it is a lot easier to make it there than baseball, so I definitely get it.
njbirdsfan
I don’t understand why MLB fans would be okay with this. MLB already plays second fiddle to the NFL in this country, and now it’s very possible they lose a possible top prospect to a rival league. It really doesn’t matter if Murray never works out in the NFL, he’ll still never be a name in MLB if he leaves.
csspackler
It’s not a matter of fans being OK with it. The A’s knew this when they drafted him, and he was drafted much higher than scouting services predicted. And it’s not as if this hasn’t happened before.
thegreatcerealfamine
Actually MLB plays third fiddle to the NFL, the NBA now plays second fiddle.
timewalk42
People still watch the NBA?
thegreatcerealfamine
I know you’re just trying to be contrary, but the answer is a resounding yes, and at a rate not seen since the Michael Jordan championship years. Not only is the viewership a factor, but also the relevance of the NBA’s most popular players in social media, sponsor related sales, politcal influence(like it or not), and popular culture among other things.
davidcoonce74
MLB is still the second most-popular sport in the US, and it’s not even really close.
thegreatcerealfamine
OK prove your claim with some facts David.
thegreatcerealfamine
Here’s some sobering info for you David..
Harris Poll most popular sport in the US 2018..
NFL-37%, NBA-11%, MLB-9%, MLS-7%.
Average age of MLB Fan 55, NFL-47, NBA-42, MLS-40(15% younger than 18)
Not to mention the almost nonexistent popularity of MLB among African Americans
davidcoonce74
Okay. Other polls show different numbers but I don’t feel like linking to all of them. I suppose it depends upon who is being polled. Baseball has more viewers and more revenue, but also more games. Gallup shows the same numbers as you but other polls show baseball as much as 5% more popular than basketball. But I can accept what you wrote. And a poll isn’t really a fact, but I guess it’s all the evidence we have.
davidcoonce74
I suppose maybe I’m looking at TV ratings, which have baseball as the second most popular sport in America.
thegreatcerealfamine
Average ratings for the 2018 NBA Finals vs 2018 WS…
NBA 10.0 for average 17.9 million
MLB 8.9 for average of 14.3 million.
The World Series ratings were down 23% from 2017, and 38% from 2016.
pjmcnu
What good is the extra $5M if you can’t remember where your really nice house is? I suppose it can pay for top notch nursing care beginning at age 50. Hope it doesn’t happen, but jeez kid, if it’s $4.5M and no CTE or $9.5M and maybe CTE (future riches possible, but not guaranteed, on both paths), why go the CTE route? You have good options that the others don’t. Smh.
lowtalker1
Don’t be stupid kid
Play baseball not football
Vizionaire
for boras, it may not be much but if the kid returns the portion of bonus he received and plays pro football, there isn’t going to be his cut.. so, what’s in all this for him?
lowtalker1
Agents don’t just cover baseball. They also cover football.
Vizionaire
if boras represents murray in nfl, the kid would be the first he does.
arc89
A’s have it the contract he must pay them back in full. So the money is not the issue. Problem for Boras is his player broke a agreement and the next kid that is a college football player teams will not offer very much if they intend to keep playing football.
zak1993
If you’re thinking short term can you really blame him? I mean he’ll probably get more money right away signing with the NFL, and immediately be able to at least get a shot to start, travel with the team to big cities and have a shot to be a star. In the MLB while he’s in the minor leagues he’ll get paid next to nothing (other than his signing bonus), have long bus rides to middle of nowhere towns to play in front of maybe 2,000 people and sleep in some mid-tier motel. Putting your love for baseball aside do any of you really think that sounds better than playing in the NFL right away? If anything hopefully this is a wake up to the MLB to put some money into the minor leagues and make it a more welcoming environment to 2 way prospects such as this, as well as maybe pay the minor league players more than what your typical Wendy’s manager makes
tigerdoc616
Average career length and overall earnings are higher in baseball than in football. But we are not talking about average here. We are talking about a QB. If Murray plays baseball, his overall health will likely be better, his career longer. And likely will make more but will also take him longer to get to that point.
Despite the more recent successes of mobile QB’s in the NFL (Cam Newton, Dak Prescott, Deshawn Watson, and now Lamar Jackson), Murray is undersized. His arm strength is solid but accuracy is still an issue. And while he is fast, so are a lot of NFL defenders. So he screams potential bust. His potential to be a star is much better in baseball than football.
But does any of that matter? Maybe, maybe not. If he just loves football, then it does not. If it does, what matters is where he gets drafted. People outline what Lamar Jackson got last year, that is a good comp. A late first round pick, early second round pick, he will likely double what he signed for with the A’s. It will likely take him 5-6 seasons of baseball to get to a point of working through the minors and getting paid at the major league level to double his money. In 5-6 years in the NFL he will not only burn through his rookie contract but sign another one, the size of will be determined by his success. If he is a bust, then he can always go back and play baseball later.
But if enough NFL teams see him as a potential bust, or are scared away by his baseball contract, he could drop to the 3rd or 4th round easily. Then a good comp would be Mason Rudolph, who got $3.4M ($930k guaranteed) from the Steelers after being a 3rd round pick. Now baseball looks more lucrative. He’ll play for less for the next 4 years, with less guarantee, and will need to become a star if he wants to cash in once his rookie contract expires.
So what it really boils down to is this. What sport does Kyler Murray want to play? And if that really isn’t the issue, then his draft position in the NFL becomes the deciding factor. on what sport he ultimately plays.
timewalk42
NFL and big money or ride the bus from town to town in the minors … NFL here I come
firstbleed
+ instant endorsements.
Chicks Dig the Longball
Unless he gets drafted in the top 50 picks, which I don’t think he will given accuracy and size limitations, there is more guaranteed money in his baseball contract.
pater06
As an A’s fan, this is disappointing news. But after watching Kyler Murray closely this year, I’m convinced he could be successful at almost any sport given his immense physical talents. A’s took a calculated risk selecting him, and we will see what happens. I do find it hilarious that fans of other teams seem to love that this is happening to the A’s and are critical of those who want Kyler to fulfill his contractual commitments. If the shoe was on the other foot, I think most fans would be singing a very different tune.
passed_balls
He’s one massive hit away from wishing he had a one way ticket to Beloit. My guess is he sees where he goes in the draft then makes his decision. Can’t hurt to see what options are available.
JPADA
Baseball needs to fix it’s pay structure. It really needs to be based more on production rather than service time. Not too enticing to athletes when you’ve got stars making league minimum or close to it
brood550
Average career of a baseball player is longer, contracts are fully guaranteed, and you don’t see baseball players with CTE. Easy decision.
“Jim McMahon: I’d pick baseball over football if I could”
brood550
Murray’s signed slot value in the MLB draft was $4,660,000. Of and QB may be doable but he’s still going to miss the start of the NFL season if he goes deep in the playoffs. If he goes to the WS he could miss all the way through week 9. I’d hate to be the team that needs 2 starting qbs. That’s a lot of payroll to dole out to one position even if Murray is only paid like he’ll play 1/2 a season.
Priggs89
No football team will ever agree to that with their QB.
realist101
I agree with Priggs89. Never mind missing regular season games: no NFL team today would agree to their starting QB, or primary back-up, missing training camp.
brood550
He already signed his agreement with the A’s. So what now?
Priggs89
The A’s wait and see what happens in the NFL draft. If he goes high enough to decide it’s worth playing football instead of baseball, he backs out of his agreement, returns the signing bonus, and plays football instead. The A’s still have his rights if he changes his mind, but outside of that, they basically wasted a top draft pick. That’s all.
fieldsj2
No way in hell this kids 5’11,194lbs. At best he’s 5,9,175-180. He just doesn’t have the frame to be an NFL QB. I think you’ll see him go back to Baseball before his rookie contract is up. He’s young enough to be able to at least give Football a shot. I just don’t see him as a QB, especially when they get tape on him after his first or second season.
realist101
We’ll see what Murray does, but I’ll note that the guaranteed money comparison as an NFL draft pick can pretty quickly end up close to his A’s signing bonus.
It is true that Murray will be in line for a lot more guaranteed money than his A’s signing bonus if he’s a late 1st round NFL pick. I’ll note, though, that Lamar Jackson’s guaranteed money as the last pick in the first round of the 2018 NFL draft was $7.6 million, per Spotrac. The total contract value was 4 years / $9.5 million, but late 1st round NFL picks don’t typically have fully guaranteed rookie contracts. So it’s already closer than the $4.66 million vs. $9.5 million claimed by Adams in this article. (High first round picks do typically end up with fully-guaranteed rookie contracts. Baker Mayfield’s 4 years / $32.7 million as the #1 overall pick was all guaranteed, for example.)
It also doesn’t take falling very far into the second round before the guaranteed money for NFL draft picks drops below Murray’s A’s signing bonus. The #36 overall pick (4th pick in the 2nd round) in the 2018 NFL draft – Darius Leonard – got $4.2 million guaranteed out of a total rookie contract of 4 years / $7.2 million.
Here is the link to the Spotrac information – spotrac.com/nfl/draft/
Chicks Dig the Longball
Thank you for this. It is also worth mentioning, that he doesn’t project to be a 1st round pick. The media will push his narrative all spring, but the truth is (height aside) he projects more of a late 3rd-4th given his talent.
WrongVerb
Three letters: CTE.
That right there ought to be enough to convince anyone to choose baseball.
lowtalker1
Playing football especially when you can play baseball is a bad idea
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Dont tell that to Jeff Samardzija..he was much better as a tight end than he is a pitcher. Sure he extended his career by a good 10 years. Because he’d be out of football and retired by now.
Vizionaire
in the broadcasting booth by now.
davidcoonce74
Samardzija has also made way more money playing baseball than he’d ever have made in the NFL, and he can probably still remember how to spell his last name as a bonus.
Payne Train
Saying that the system is flawed in this case is a joke – he’s a top rated QB with a heisman who is going to probably start at QB day one …. how in the world would you make this even close to being doable from a baseball standpoint …. they are in no one the same – joke joke joke .
I would hope he Takes the 4.6 mil, negotiate another few mill and don’t kill yourself eith brain injuries .
Chicks Dig the Longball
He won’t start day one. I’d expect him to be a late 3rd-4th round pick.
Priggs89
Pretty sure they can’t pay him any more than that… I’d imagine they used their entire draft pool already…
Lefty Grove’s right hand
What do you think Beane will tell him? Will they bribe him a little more?
Payne Train
Another question, what happens if he decides to play MLB after 4 years of football?? Does the A’s get him back at a discount ??
ABP
Yes. A’s have first right.
User 589131137
If the MLB paid MILB players something resembling a competent wage, Murray would have a harder decision..
Vizionaire
amen!
TheBigCurt
It’s a shame that MLB could lose out on one of the best amateur athletes playing their sport. Especially with all the problems the NFL has had recently with player health. Moreover, MLB celebrates Jackie Robinson every year, yet there are relatively few African-American players relative to other sports. To me, that’s the story and it shouldn’t just be about the A’s — it should be about Rob Manfred making the call and doing what he can to keep the kid in the sport. Hell, match whatever contract NFL offers him, just keep in the sport. We need exceptional young athletes that present MLB as diverse and inclusive as it purports to be.
nicketz
Curious how he can do in the NFL. i’m not one of those “a QB Needs to be 6 ft!” people but Murray might be the shortest by a margin?
seen his height listed from 5-9 to 5-11. when it comes to famous people i always assume those numbers are padded too.
wonder if he’s really 5-2″ like vin diesel 🙂
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Just for his sake I hope he plays for both sports. Even though the raiders are going to Las Vegas in 2 seasons. It would be cool to see him drafted by Oakland this summer.
sufferforsnakes
He signed a contract. Honor that signature.
snuffbuff
He is probably going to pick the NFL so he can play right away either as a back up for 2-3 years then be the starter wherever he lands. Heisman trophy winners don’t always live up to the hype they get from winning that award. His backup plan would be BASEBALL however he would be adding on 3-4 years on his body and after getting hit by guys like FLETCHER COX AND OTHER notables in the NFL it may take another year for his body to recuperate to play BASEBALL. Remember people it’s all about the BENJAMINS in this day and age.
El Kabong
Another reason to hate the godawful sport of football.
Bocephus
“Another reason to hate the godawful sport of football” lofl
Is it Football that caused the A’s too make such a horrendous mistake in the draft?
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Well… Kind of, yes.
Deke
This is funny is was just reading the Twitter feed (link in the article). One guy accuses Teddy Cahill of not understanding baseball. He’s gotta reply to that tweet now!
LarsLap
If the A’s want him, then ante up and make it hard for him to sat no. Match his likely 3 year late first round rookie NFL contract, which likely works out to be about 10m. Add him to 40-man and fast track him. He already has the 4.6m signing bonus in hand, so if he chooses the NFL he is down 4.6m and likely the taxes/fees on top of that. Not sure exactly how his accountants would work that out. I’m sure Boris won’t be giving his 10% back.
In the end, he needs to do what he wants, but his NFL contract won’t be anywhere near as sweet as it would have been if he didn’t have to give all the baseball money back. If baseball doesn’t come together, in 3 years he can revisit the NFL with 15m already earned.
Bocephus
MLB contracts don’t work that way.
LarsLap
Like what? The latest update sounds like that is exactly what the A’s and Boris are working on…