11:45am: The Rangers are receiving $750K worth of international allotments in the trade, tweets Mark Feinsand of MLB.com.
11:22am: The teams have formally announced the trade. The international bonus allotments that the Rangers are receiving are coming over from the Athletics; the amount was not specified, though international allotments must be traded in increments of at least $250K, per the collective bargaining agreement.
10:15am: The Athletics, Rangers and Rays have reportedly come to an agreement on a three-team trade that will send infielder Jurickson Profar from Texas to Oakland. Yahoo’s Jeff Passan first broke the story. Right-handed reliever Emilio Pagan is headed from the A’s to the Rays in the swap, as is Oakland’s Competitive Balance Round A selection in next year’s draft (currently slotted in at No. 38 overall). The Rangers will send minor league right-hander Rollie Lacy to the Rays, as well.
In exchange for Profar and Lacy, the Rangers will receive minor league infielder Eli White from the A’s. Additionally, the Rays will send minor league left-handers Brock Burke and Kyle Bird and minor league right-hander Yoel Espinal to the Rangers. Texas will also receive international bonus allotments in the trade.
Presumably, the trade signals that Jed Lowrie’s time with the Athletics has come to a close. The Oakland infield is currently full with Matt Chapman at third base, Marcus Semien at shortstop and Matt Olson at first base, meaning Profar’s likeliest spot with the A’s will be second base. The addition of Profar also brings into question prospect Franklin Barreto’s immediate future with the organization, as he’d been the presumptive heir apparent at second base in the event that Lowrie signed elsewhere.
Profar, 26 in February, once rated as the game’s top overall prospect but saw is promising future put on hold when a pair of shoulder injuries cost him both the 2014 and 2015 seasons. He struggled in his 2016 return and was a seldom used utility piece in 2017, but Profar finally enjoyed a full, productive season with the Rangers in 2018. Last year, the switch-hitter appeared n a career-high 146 games and tallied a career-high 594 plate appearances, hitting .254/.335/.458 with 20 homers, 35 doubles, six triples and 10 stolen bases along the way.
Because Texas optioned Profar to Triple-A for much of the 2017 season, his overall level of Major League service time was suppressed a bit. As such, he has just under five years of service time, meaning the Athletics will be able to control Profar for both the 2019 and 2020 seasons before he reaches free agency. Profar is projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn just $3.4MM in 2019, so he’ll be an affordable means of filling the team’s second base need for the next two years — a key factor for the perennially cost-conscious A’s, who still need to address their rotation.
The only other Major League piece involved in the trade is the 27-year-old Pagan, who is joining his third organization in three years. He spent just one year in Oakland after being acquired in the trade that sent first baseman Ryon Healy to the Mariners in the 2017-18 offseason. Though he’s moved around a fair bit, Pagan has generally had useful big league results. In 112 1/3 innings a a Major Leaguer, he’s notched a 3.85 ERA with 9.5 K/9 and 2.2 BB/9.
Though Pagan shows good control and is able to miss plenty of bats, however, he’s not without his red flags. The right-hander is among the game’s most extreme fly-ball pitchers and has yielded an average of 1.6 home runs per nine innings at the Major League level — neither of which figures to become any easier when moving to the American League East and its cavalcade of hitter-friendly parks (though Tampa Bay’s Tropicana Field doesn’t necessarily fit that description). For the Rays, the fact that Pagan is well-versed in multi-inning appearances was likely appealing, though. Pagan’s 112 1/3 MLB frames have come across 89 total appearances, and the Rays aggressively lean on multi-inning relievers as part of the burgeoning “opener” strategy that worked quite well for them in 2018.
The 23-year-old Lacy will join the Tampa Bay organization after spending only a brief time with the Rangers. Texas acquired Lacy in the July trade that sent Cole Hamels to the Cubs, though his results with the Rangers dropped off a bit from the numbers he posted in the Cubs’ minor league system. Some of that surely coincides with a move from Class-A to Class-A Advanced, and it’s worth noting that Lacy only totaled 28 1/3 innings in the Rangers’ system before the season ended, so it’s also a small sample of data. On the season as a whole, the right-hander worked to a 2.97 ERA with 10.0 K/9, 3.1 BB/9 and a ground-ball rate of nearly 60 percent through 109 innings between those two levels this season.
Looking to the Rangers’ return, Burke may well be the headliner in the deal. A third-round pick in the 2014 draft, the 22-year-old Burke was the Rays’ minor league pitcher of the year this past season and pitched to a 3.08 ERA with 10.4 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9 in 137 1/3 innings between Class-A Advanced and Double-A. The Rays protected Burke from the Rule 5 Draft last month by selecting him to the 40-man roster, and he’ll now be added to the Rangers’ 40-man in place of Profar.
Bird, 26 in April, split the year between Double-A and Triple-A, where he pitched to a combined 2.39 ERA with 88 strikeouts against 35 walks in 75 1/3 innings of relief work. Like Burke, he was selected to the Rays’ 40-man roster last month, meaning he’ll join the Rangers’ 40-man and give the organization an immediate left-handed bullpen option for the upcoming season. Even if he doesn’t break camp with the club, it seems likely that Bird will get an opportunity at some point in 2019.
The 26-year-old Espinal spent the bulk of the ’18 season in Double-A Montgomery, where he boasted a huge strikeout rate but demonstrated his share of control issues as well. In 54 2/3 innings at the Double-A level, Espinal notched an impressive 1.98 ERA with 11.7 K/9 but 4.8 BB/9 and a below-average 32.2 percent ground-ball rate. He won’t be as immediate of an option as Burke or Bird, but with some Double-A experience already under his belt, he’s likely not that far off from MLB readiness.
White, meanwhile, is the lone piece headed from Oakland to Texas in the swap. An 11th-round pick by the A’s back in the 2016 draft, White took his already-strong OBP skills to new heights in at the Double-A level in 2018. In 578 plate appearances this past season, the second baseman/shortstop hit .306/.388/.450 with nine home runs, 30 doubles, eight triples and 18 steals.
Yahoo’s Jeff Passan reported that Profar had been traded to Oakland and eventually followed up with all of the names and pieces involved in the deal (all Twitter links). USA Today’s Bob Nightengale, The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal and the Dallas Morning News’ Evan Grant all added some details along the way (all Twitter links).
RootedInOakland
Lehgoooo
joshua.barron1
“… that will send infielder Jurickson Profar from Oakland to Texas…”
You’ll want to correct that before the vultures come out of their lair! Oh wait, I already did
oaklandfan22
This move just made my day
xabial
If I made this post, I wouldve been verbally eviscerated..
Wow.
BrandonBrave91
I dont get everyone’s obsession over you. I’ve been a member here for a few weeks and cant help but notice that people hate it when you’re the first to comment on a thread. I’ve probably made 10 or so comments since I became a member and usually get downvoted alot too even though what I say is usually insightful or theoretically makes since.. I think some people are only members here so that they can downvote as much as possible. Hang in there pal. I like the information you bring to the discussions.
CowboysoldierFTW
Agreed Brandon
JKB 2
Well give it more than a few weeks BrandonBrave and you might change your mind
Eric F
Yeah this place is a breeding ground for hate.
juicemane
Oh poor you ;'{
The injustice
gocincy
This type of comment doesn’t help your cause. The article isn’t about you, so don’t make the comments about you either. This only feeds the trolls who stalk you.
Cat Mando
xabial…..You repeatedly say you want to talk baseball yet the last few days you seem more interested in other things. I am beginning to believe what someone else said….that you like the attention.
For instance , 2 days ago your very first comment on the Yankees/MM article was “@bb1600 ….Why are you back? Does this mean u’ll stop? Still see those 10+ dv, God of the shills ;P” Your second comment was “This guy and Bart*
I disagree w/ Balk’s assessment, but dude’s respectful. Bart is 100% troll” Why? You are now bringing this all on yourself. You are obsessed with what others think. Let it go or life will chew you up and spit you out.
I have down-voted you at times but only when I disagree (like Mark Reynolds) and I usually explain why, like I will do now. As “gocincy” said “The article isn’t about you, so don’t make the comments about you either.” That was the first thing I thought when I read your comment. Get over it already.
jkinser20
There is way too much drama for a website exclusively reserved for baseball transactions.
JKB 2
Bravo Cat Mando
Tom84
xabial, I have respect for you after a few trolls pounced on a comment of mine but you backed me up…i believe you help this site
JKB 2
@ xabial. Wow! Give it a rest kid!! Go do your homework
djpiglatin
The A’s love middle infielders.
nymetsking
Not as much as Milwaukee.
ffjsisk
Not as much as Milwaukee loves corner infielders
kirbyfaraone
Not as much as Philly loves first basemen
BrandonBrave91
Not as much as braves use to love pitchers who’ve had tj surgery
imindless
Thats the angels now lol
Knowthemarket
Ya..the Braves couldn’t hold the Angels off from the title any longer.
Tom84
Not as much as the Rangers like signing bust pitchers to get shelled
Lovetron
We love them unless they are off our 40man roster and are showing signs of life with the bat after already being exceptional with the glove! Still mad, clearly.
billneftleberg
He’d kowtow isn’t happy
nmendoza7
*The Rays joined the chat*
Schroeder
For……….?
JJB
Harper, Machado, Kershaw, and Pablo Sandoval.
Fire Jon Daniels
But I thought he was the starting third baseman Jon….
thatdudetg
Joey Gallo.
Ricky Adams
Gallo told them he wants to stay in of
yukongold
That dude players catcher for the Yankees
Christian Larsen
Either they going with Wisdom. Or theyre motive is going for Moose
Fire Jon Daniels
When Jon traded for Wisdom I knew Profar was out.
cmulla
so much for hanging on to the untouchable
batty
Remember when Profar was this untouchable prospect bound for great things in baseball?
bkwalker510
he’s only 25, perhaps a change of scenery will do
batty
I get that, but it’s still a fall from where he was thought to be. I just remember when fans of teams, my team included, were hot and heavy to acquire him. There were some pretty big young names thrown around in armchair GM trades scenarios. Also, Texas fans, some of them anyway, were wanting the moon, stars and several planets for him.
oz10
Once you get to watch him play a lot you see he does everything, and I mean everything, really well but doesn’t have one thing that stands out. It makes it hard to value as we are so used to saying this guy can hit or he is fast or a defensive whiz where Profar is just really good at all of it and not many deficiencies. A true baseball fan will like the way he plays.
Had he not gotten hurt I am pretty sure he would be entrenched at 2nd base for the Rangers and there would not be Odor in Texas right now.
batty
I’ve watched him play quite a bit. He really seems like a good candidate as a super utility guy more than a player that can be at one position without being over-exposed.
oz10
and that is because he has never been left in one place.
hojostache
He came in with such hype followed by a string of injuries/lost playing time, so it’s hard for most people to separate the disparate expectations. Now he looks productive and serviceable, but far from what people thought he’d do. I have no idea about all of those prospects, so I don’t know how he was valued in this particular deal.
davidcoonce74
He’s only 25 and missed two full seasons of development with injuries. I would still have some faith in him.
iverbure
Remember when stupid fans didn’t use hindsight to make up their narratives? No? Me either.
batty
Remember when civility was a thing?
Knowthemarket
ROFL! Welcome to MLBTR. Posters here don’t have that stuff. We don’t have to look anyone in the eyes when we say what we do so we say whatever pops into our little brains that common decency would otherwise kick in and tell us not too.
Ungerdog
that sums up the internet.
justinkm19
He had a good year last year and had a stretch in there where he really showed what’s he’s capable of.
jbigz12
How about a starting pitcher?
unpaidobserver
Patience young padawan.
kc38
The Rays FO is just like dipoto. They just wanna be involved in all trades
hojostache
When you have such a restricted budget….I suspect making many under the radar moves would be needed since signing a big time free agent just isn’t an option. I hope they can build on their surprise season in 2018, as someone else needs to win the AL East.
johnrealtime
Hot damn. This isn’t too bold a prediction but I think he’ll have a great year in Oakland. Many don’t realize he is only 25 and had a very solid year
dray16
Huge pickup for Oakland, I really like this deal as well.
acarneglia
Brooklyn Nine-Nine reference?
johnrealtime
I’m not sure if you’re replying to me but no I haven’t watched that show since the first season
Syndergaarden Cop
Now look at his away stats.
darkstar61
Do you know how many Angels had a better line than his away stats?
4
Four Angels hit better overall than Profar’s 2018 Away line. On the entire roster of guys with at least 10 AB, just 4!
Keep trying to act line it’s somehow so horrific.
Lefty Grove’s right hand
This was a really good trade for Oakland. Some of the relievers were definitely expendable, and Eli White was being blocked in the majors too with Barreto and Pinder. A’s had to give up their competitive balance pick but whatever.
Knowthemarket
Many don’t realize he’s 25? I think this is the fourth time I have read his age being brought up so far and I’m just skimming through the posts
unpaidobserver
Best part for Profar is, solid lineup already. If he is just a solid defender with unexpected pop now and again he’ll be overperforming expectations. If he is anything more thsn that he will be a hero.
Syndergaarden Cop
For a top draft pick, it’s more Jurickson Pro-fail. He was terrible away from Arlington too: .237/.307/.405/.712
baseballhobo
Pro-fail wasn’t drafted.
nymetsking
Thor-fail?
johnrealtime
Michael Jackson propo-failed
darkstar61
The AL average was just .249/.318/.415/.734 in 2018, so you might want to rethink that “terrible”
Syndergaarden Cop
He was a top prospect. Some say THE top prospect at one time. I stand by my statement.
darkstar61
Who cares what when once was, that has nothing to do with anything
Right now he’s a 25yo middle infielder who hits League Average away from Tex
Syndergaarden Cop
He most certainly does not hit league average away.
darkstar61
The line you keep repeating is unbelievablly close to League Average
The line you keep repeating is also the same to better than al but 4 Angels hitters posted last year
You honestly sound like a loon trying to bash it
damon389
Did Profar steal your lunch money when you were a kid?
Big Hurt
Why do you keep referencing the Angels?
darkstar61
The Angels are chasing Oakland
Being in ALW, Profar faced same clubs as Angels
Angels fans are in this conversation
On top of it just giving context to the line
algionfriddo
Who is better defensively at ss… Semien or Profar?
bkwalker510
Semien and i doubt its even close
TheReal_DK
I’ve always liked Profar’s versatility, finally put together a decent year at the plate. Seems like a Jed Lowrie replacement.
Codeeg
I believe Profar is going to be really good next season. He hit 20 HRs as a 25 year old in his first healthy and full season. If a change of scenery helps and he can build off of what he did I think he will surprise.
Marius
If you value homers, I don’t think 20 is something to get worked up about. More players than at any time in history are hitting 20+.
joepanikatthedisco
Not many guys who can hit 20 homers have experience at all 4 infield positions though. Talk to any Javy Baez apologist about how great that is.
wv17
This makes me wonder about Chapman’s health to start the season.
Null
If anything, they can play Profar or Pinder at third to start the year if Chapman isn’t ready. Barreto would probably get some playing time at 2nd early on as well.
oaklandfan22
I agree we have options if Chapman were to miss some time
Yew Sukk
The A’s have already said Profar is their starting 2B not a utility guy. Barreto is good as gone, most likely in a trade for starting pitching.
Lovetron
Does it? Still a long ways away and Profar is definitely slotting into 2B. But we can always mix and match with Pinder if need be at 2b/3b
jchiaratti
Nothing to do with Chapman… he’s their every day 2b
Syndergaarden Cop
2017 away numbers: .237/.307/.405/.712.
darkstar61
.249/.318/.415/.734 – 2018 AL average
Marius
So, all you’re pointing out is that he is still below average.
darkstar61
It’s basically League Average and equal/better than all but 4 of your Angels hitters managed last season.
If you think his away line is bad, what does it say about your club…
Yankeepatriot
The rays are like that kid that wants to jump into the cool kids conversations and say things like “ohhh s*it !” “And then what happened ?” “No waaay !”
tim815
The Rays are like the team that gets themselves involved in trades, knowing their prospects really well, and trusting their ability to draft and develop well.
Michael Chaney
You must be fun at parties
Syndergaarden Cop
Rangers Ballpark played as offensive heavy last season as it has in several years and Profar hit .271/.362/.511 there, compared to .237/.307/.405 on the road. Rangers hitters last year had an OPS 110 points higher at home than on the road. Rangers pitchers had an OPS against 89 points higher at home than on the road.
Profar is a product of his home ballpark, period.
darkstar61
Look, you’re clearly all triggered out that Oakland got him, we get it.
But you’ve now given 3 posts to try and bash his road numbers, while ignoring that line is League Average rate
League Average for a 25yo middle infielder is not a negative
dray16
I think it’s a mighty fine pick up for Oakland, I’d love to have Profar
Syndergaarden Cop
keep making apologies for him darktrash
darkstar61
And you, keep proving yourignorance
williemaysfield
Profor in 2018 had a 105 ops+. Ops+ is park adjusted with 100 being league average. 5% above league average for middle infielder is top 10 at The position. I wish Panik would find 105 ops+ again.
Marius
Profar was a 2.0 WAR player. That is equivalent to an average MLB starter. The guy isn’t all that great. I don’t know why they didn’t pony up for Lowrie. This team has been cashing in on revenue sharing for years and putting it in their pockets
darkstar61
Fangraphs has him at a 2.9 WAR
Just 3 Angels had a higher WAR (Trout, Upton and Simmons)
Lovetron
Profar is also only 25 and that’s just one year older than the main prospect we’re sending out in Eli White. Profar also still has some very reachable potential in the BA category. We didnt pay out for Lowrie because there’s a 9m salary difference (projected) and if youve seen the FA market for SPs lately, thats about what an average #4-5 SP is going for these days. We need 2 still.
jchiaratti
You understand they’ve pretty much lost all revenue sharing at this point?
gavinrendar
“The A’s will receive Oakland’s pick?”
And Profar to the Rays? I’m guessing the latest update is a bunch of typos?
baseballpun
Every update to this has further confused what’s actually happening. The latest one says Profar is going to the Rays and that Oakland is receiving its own competitive balance pick.
Yankeepatriot
Seriously ? Damn so who is right or wrong ? I can see Oakland getting him due to the fact that their second base situation isn’t clear right now
dray16
wait…what?
sportsfan101
That first paragraph needs to be edited.
Codeeg
The As are getting their own pick!
bdallen714
So where is Profar going? Headline says Oakland, but directly under it is statement “Profar is only piece going to Rays” ??????
Francys01
This looks like a good trade for the Rangers. Good Daniels
Four4fore
Looks like a good trade for the Rays.
matt4baseball
The 2 pitchers the Rays traded I can’t find on their prospect list. What number in our org are they? Does Pagan have to be on the mlb Rays 40 list?
jchiaratti
Yes… pagan isn’t a prospect… spent most of the last two seasons in majors
fannclub6
The A’s will receive Oakland’s competitive balance pick???
ck420
I don’t get it A’s get Oakland’s competitive balance pick and Emilio Pagan? Eli White to the ranges? Need a new proof reader!
oaklandfan22
Eli white to the rangers. Competitive Balance pick and Pagan to the Rays
Lefty Grove’s right hand
So, the A’s traded Pagan and Eli White to get Profar. That’s a decent trade. I like it. Profar still has lots of potential, and it’s a nice replacement for the production Lowrie have the A’s.
Lefty Grove’s right hand
Nice trade for the Rays too. They get Pagan and the competitive balance pick in the draft.
Lovetron
Love the deal. I see it as us trading Healy for Profar. Pagan obviously = Pagan, and I think value-wise Eli White is similar to Alexander Campos, as White can hit but is likely not a MI in the MLB, and Campos has a glove but who knows if the bat will come around.
Makes me feel bad about complaining on the lack of moves last night. Welp, the squeaky wheel got the grease 😀
sacball
that last update makes zero sense..”Profar is the only piece headed to the Rays, per Passan. The A’s will receive Oakland’s Competitive Balance pick’
Lefty Grove’s right hand
Rays get Pagan and Oakland’s competitive balance pick. Rays A’s, it’s an easy mistake.
tsc32
Sorry. Don’t get this at all. Profar finally has a good season, and Beltre is now retired. But we trade away the guy that was going to replace him? For a package of bums that includes a 25 year old middle infielder (who hasn’t made the majors) and two relievers? What.
frosttie
Wisdom will be the starting 3B and you’ll like it.
Null
My guess is that they plan to use either Gallo or Wisdom at 3B next season or sign a guy in FA like Valencia or Solarte and put Gallo in LF. Texas picked up some nice pitching and Eli White who had a solid year with the bat.
slugger82685
I don’t get it either, there is no name in there that stands out to me that the Rangers are getting to really force their hand to ship out Profar. He finally started to produce and teams have show super utility guys as being very useful and valuable. At the very least why not wait and see how he does the first half of next season and trade hit at the deadline for a better haul?? But even better, if he really is starting to click and the Rangers are trying to be back to competing once the new stadium opens, isn’t this the type of player you can use? Maybe even extend at a moderate contract rate?
Ungerdog
The pkg Texas received is a lot better than you’re giving them credit for. as a tb fan, I feel like we slightly overpaid for what we received…if it weren’t for the cb pick, I’d be pissed.
Burke was the 21st ranked prospect in the Rays system last year and put up some sick numbers this year in AA, which earned him Rays minor league pitcher of the year honors. he has a ceiling of a #3-4 starter and is not far from the show.
Bird has marinated in the upper levels of the minors for a few years and is mlb ready now as a lefty middle reliever that can throw for multiple innings due to a 5 pitch repertoire. He closed for Durham and also looks pretty good stats wise, save for a little higher walk rate than one would like.
Yoel’s numbers as a rp aren’t too shabby either.
I don’t know much about Eli but Burke, to me, was the get that got got. He’ll be in the rotation within a year and you’ll change your opinion when Profar is hitting .230 in Oak. You’re looking at Profar through Ranger’s colored glasses – Tex got a good haul.
Daniel Youngblood
After digging deeper into the prospects involved, I like this trade for the Rangers. You get a near-ready starter with mid-rotation potential (Burke), two high-ceiling bullpen arms (Bird and Espinal), a solid infield prospect with a rapidly improving bat (White) and international money.
That’s a really solid return for a guy in Profar who has only had one good major league season and is a free agent after the 2020 season.
I wasn’t sure what to make of this trade when it was first announced, but I think all three teams did relatively well.
oz10
I agree (see we agree on most!) and think that white fills Profars role in two years when that role is really needed to compete. I think it is hard to still see Profar for what he is and not what he can become. I hope he does really well though.
Christian Larsen
A lot of confusion here as of right now. I’ll wait this out first lol
kaskro
Yes.. Is anyone proof reading this garbage? Wow
Breezy
Texas got some very solid arms from Tampa in this deal.
dray16
I see profar is headed from Oakland to Texas now….that didn’t last long.
dug
Profar back to Texas 😉
mariners116
What’s the haul for the Mariners?
Mike Query
Profar has been traded to every team in this article now. Clean it up
Asfan0780
Pagan is home prone but wouldve likely been im AAA with A’s deep bullpen. Eli white was behind barreto, mateo, etc. My guess is barreto is trade bait for pitching now
Lovetron
Unless we’re getting a top arm, no reason to shop Barreto yet. Big time power from MI, with solid defense. Could be an Rougned Odor type with more BA and less steals. That said, if we are shopping Barreto for an arm, I’d be swinging for the fences and looking at Syndergaard.
jchiaratti
Barreto still has an option year… if he pushes the issue Profar can become a switch hitting super util and if Profar breaks out you can either trade he or Barreto… not time to trade Barreto yet (Profar only has two years of control)
Frisco500
Profars injury issues derailed his career. But he was healthy last season and showed flashes of what made him the #1 prospect in the game. This is a nice move for Oak.
Rich Hill’s Elbow
Still no starting pitching…
vmmercan 2
Budget cuts at MLBTR this holiday season?
homeunderdog
from texas to oakland******
FullMontilla
Profar seems like a steep drop off in defense from Lowrie – he looks like he’s on track to join the Dr. Strangeglove club. All bat, no glove
Z-A 2
From Texas to Oakland***
metseventually 2
The first paragraph is f*cky.
joepanikatthedisco
The last word in your comment isn’t a real word.
ThePriceWasRight
So Pagan will be another opener option for the Rays
oaklandfan22
Solid reliever, wish the A’s would’ve stuck with him for longer, but we needed a second baseman.
ThePriceWasRight
no agree. I’m just pointing out I can see this happening. cheers
Lovetron
Eh he was inconsistent as hell though. We’re deep enough to cash out on him and not bat an eye.. I dont even think he was a favorite to open the year on the roster, honestly. Even if we roll an 8man pen, its Trienen, Soria, Trivino, German, Petit, Hendricks, Buchter for sure. Last spot would be down to Dull, Wendelken, Brooks, Tanner Anderson.. or maybe another LH as Buchter is our only one as of now.
The Ranger Fan
As a Ranger fan I know nothing of the guys coming back to Texas in return,so I have to wonder
1. Who’s gonna play third now
2. Did we get value pitching for Profar beings he had a decent year.
3. Why did we trade him in our division .
4. Are these futures players or 2019 players
5. Wondering if any more trades coming from Texas
Daniel Youngblood
1. Probably Patrick Wisdom, who they traded for earlier this offseason.
2. I think we got decent value, particularly given that Profar has only had one good season and has just two years of control remaining.
* White is an intriguing infield prospect who seems to really be coming into his own offensively.
* Bird is a major-league ready reliever with really nice numbers in the high minors.
* Burke looks like a future rotation candidate who dominated Double A for nine starts last year.
* Espinal looks from his numbers like a pre-breakout Jose Leclerc (low h/9, high K/9, high BB/9). If they can get his walks in check, he could be a good late-inning reliever.
* And we get more money to spend internationally, where this front office has thrived in the past.
3. The A’s probably had the most interest in Profar and this trade probably brought back the best return.
4. Bird will probably be a 2019 bullpen piece. The others will start in the minors.
5. We’ll see. I’m not ruling out anything at this point.
csspackler
Full trade,
Oakland gets: Jurickson Profar
Texas gets: Brock Burke, Eli White, Kyle Bird, Yoel Espinal, international $
Tampa Bay gets: 38th pick in 2019 draft, Emilio Pagan, Rollie Lacy
Victoroy
I appreciate this post, thanks! This was a rather confusing trade.
oaklandfan22
Absolutely love this, Pagan will be a solid reliever and Eli White is another great prospect. Profar was the second baseman I wanted.
sjbB112
Now if only the A’s had two reliable, quality starters, they would be able to contend for a World Series. Arguably one of the most intriguing teams in baseball, just never seem like they will make that one big splash to propel them into complete relevance.
Frisco500
In the money ball years they had dominant SP. Mulder, Huddy, Zito (before the overblown SF contract) but their Pen was pretty weak. So they are flipping the recipe? They are a really good young team, but they are in need of a couple more SP
sjbB112
Completely agree. I love following the A’s, and enjoy seeing that they can compete year after year on a limited budget, even as a Mets fan. But you always just wonder if/when they will start to put together a team that stays a core for more than 2 seasons.
Lovetron
If this ballpark thing happens as planned, we just might in a couple years. But I dont think Krush Davis or Sean Manaea will be around for it (which is just fine IMO, I dont like paying top dollar to DHs or non K “aces”)
csspackler
Don’t be surprised if Luzardo is promoted within a couple of months. Don’t know where Kaprielian, Puk and Cotton are on their recoveries, but things look bright for the A’s.
selw0nk 2
If the A’s will not use Franklin Barreto in 2nd base, they need to trade him already. What a waste of the Josh Donaldson trade. Lol
oaklandfan22
He’s still a couple years away from fully contributing, I like this move as a gap until Barreto is fully developed.
Lovetron
I dunno about that. He hit 18 HR in 282 ABs in AAA… think the guy is ready. He’s earned a chance to really stick. I think he’s going to be Pinder + this year, with a chance to steal the job in LF, SS, or 2B if any of Martini/Semien/Profar scuffle.
Yankeepatriot
I think Lowrie will end up being the best bargain this off season who ever gets him. There seems to be minimal interest in him which is shocking
arc89
Lowrie has a few offers. A’s must have offered him the same money Soria received and was turned down. Lowrie is looking at a 3 or 4 year deal. To expensive for a injury prone 34 y o.
bleacherbum
Can Lowrie play 3B still?
Lovetron
I dont think the interest is the problem. Its that the market was a bit saturated with 2Bs and Lowrie is looking for that last multi-year payday. With Kinsler and Murphy now off the market, who’s the big 2B competition? LaMahieu.. I think Lowrie signs before 2019 and gets the 12 AAV he’s looking for. Washington seems like a natural fit. Good luck to him, hope he stays healthy
A'sfaninLondonUK
@bleacher – As I remember Lowrie played a handful of games at 3B covering for Matt Chapman last year.. He didn’t look out of place. Though I wouldn’t want him there day in day out either.
@Lovetron – Agree – he’ll get 12-15 AAV over two years. He’s earned it. Shame we (the A’s) can’t pay it. On base machine, doubles machine, tidy in defence. Just a great pro. Wish him health and success. Preferably in the NL….
bowserhound
Nice middle infield platoon for the A’s. Now we don’t have to rely on Barreto playing everyday, and Profar can spell Semien and Chapman. Like it.
jchiaratti
They’ve said Profar is the everyday 2b and Barreto will be a util guy (he’s playing LF in winter ball)
puigpower
Great job Oakland. One of the best moves of the offseason
Drifter2479
How many years of Profar are the A’s getting? Are they just buying more time for Barreto to develop or…?
darkstar61
2 years of control
Drifter2479
Thanks.
Thomas Bliss
I say move Semien to 2nd and let Profar play short.
Lovetron
Semien’s become an excellent defensive SS. No reason to move him now.
jchiaratti
Profar didn’t grade out well st SS last year st all… Semien is above average as long as Olson and chappy are there
astros_fan_84
I feel like the Rays won this trade. I have no evidence to support this. Just a gut feeling.
I believe that anytime a third team comes in, it’s going to be to their benefit, since the other teams need them to make the deal happen.
damon389
Pagan was an extreme disappointment with Oakland. So much so that he was sent down to the minors and even when he was called back up he was “meh” at best. An extreme FB pitcher, I would be nervous when he starts pitching in places like NY, TOR, BOS and BAL.
bradthebluefish
Good WHIP. Maybe the Rays can help him improve those secondary pitches.
Btw, what team isn’t good against fastballs? I’m always shocked how many fastballs are thrown.
Sky14
He means fly balls.
bradthebluefish
Nice trade and good players all around. Looks like everybody wins here.
oz10
That is not allowed. there must be a clear cut winner or technically everyone lost the trade! (sarcasm)
BrewCrew1302
Rays involved in a three team trade? big shock lol
Altanta Barves
A low-risk, low-reward move for the A’s that will deliver minimal impact. In other words, a textbook Billy Beane move.
Lovetron
I dunno that its low anything. Profar is 25 still, plenty of potential still to tap. Eli White has a solid bat and could be a Mark Ellis/Justin Turner type. If Profar delivers on his 2.5-3 WAR projection, think the move is a great one for the A’s
Waddupitsyahboy
Well, now we know that Emilio will be back with Mariners in another trade next year.
soxfan1
It would be nice if there was an overall clear summary of the trade at some point in the article when it comes to these three team trades. Like
Rays receive/give up:
As receive/give up:
Rangers receive/give up:
madmanTX
Gallo at 3B, but I dont know about the guys coming back. I really wanted to see Profar get to play everyday and see what he can do. I hope JD knows best on this move.
AidanVega123
I mean Gallo has said that he hates playing third base
steelerbravenation
See what the next deal is for the Rangers they could make another move for a young 3B
steelerbravenation
Like maybe Riley, Gohora & Allard for Gallo & Leclerc
Lovetron
One concern for me – we still have a distinct lack of LH batting. Profar is switch, and Olson is LH.. beyond that, we are so righty heavy. Krush, Laureano, Piscotty, Semien, Pinder, Chapman, Phegley… I guess Martini or Fowler is being gifted a roster spot? Would love to make a move for a LH LF like David Peralta.
imindless
Any way angels could sign jed lowrie?
Painful itch
As a Rangers Fan I hate to lose Profar especially for what seems like nothing.
oz10
They are now the number 5 and 12 prospects in the Rangers system per Espn.
julyn82001
A’s trying to compete now but c’mon Barreto is the future.
A'sfaninLondonUK
Would really like to agree but he’s now blocked for two years? Was saying on another thread this morning that we needed replacements for Lucroy – Lowrie – and the entire rotation but the FO seemed sniffy about Frankie B.
Seems they’re still sniffy about Frankie B.
Lovetron
They’re gonna make him earn a role, which is what good teams do. Don’t see an issue with it
A'sfaninLondonUK
Kinda – but do you really think he’s (Frankie B) two years away from MLB ready? Given he got big team time this year?
Lovetron
No I think he’s ready now, at least for 300 PAs. Think he could supplant Semien or Profar too, but needs to prove more at MLB level before we hand him anything. If he shows we’ll this year, we shop Sem or Profar either at deadline or next offseason. Franklin did very well at AAA but hasn’t kicked down the doors to a starting role.. yet
jchiaratti
No, they’re going to treat him like Pinder this year… he’s been playing LF in winter ball… if he pushes the envelope and Profar doesn’t take another step forward Profar could become the util guy (or be trade bait?)
Looks like Canha is the odd man out
GarryHarris
All these trades today… Friday the Winter Solstice?
Eric F
Great move for Oakland they always find a way to get it done!