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The Los Angeles Dodgers, fresh off of a second consecutive NLCS Championship (and second consecutive World Series loss), have a surplus of talent on the farm and would figure to have the capacity to add payroll if need be. With two consecutive trips to baseball’s grandest stage galvanizing the tail end of six straight playoff berths, it’ll take a championship to truly satiate the fans this time around. It’s a good thing the Dodgers are as well-positioned as any team in baseball to bring one home.
Guaranteed Contracts
- Clayton Kershaw, SP: $93MM through 2021 (extension signed 11/2/18)
- Matt Kemp, OF: $21.75MM through 2019
- Justin Turner, 3B: $39MM through 2020
- Rich Hill, SP: $18MM through 2019
- Kenley Jansen, RP: $56MM through 2021
- Hyun-Jin Ryu, SP: $17.9MM through 2019 (accepted qualifying offer)
- David Freese, 3B: $4.5MM through 2019
- Kenta Maeda, SP: $15MM through 2023
- Tony Cingrani, RP: $2.65MM through 2019 (guaranteed arbitration salary)
Arbitration-Eligible Players (projections via MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz)
- Yasiel Puig (5.102) – $11.3MM
- Alex Wood (5.123) – $9.0MM
- Joc Pederson (4.028) – $4.3MM
- Enrique Hernandez (4.054) – $3.2MM
- Chris Taylor (3.037) – $3.2MM
- Josh Fields (5.083) – $2.8MM
- Corey Seager (3.032) – $2.6MM
- Pedro Baez (4.059) – $1.8MM
- Yimi Garcia (3.149) – $900K
Free Agents
- Manny Machado, Yasmani Grandal (declined qualifying offer), Ryan Madson, Daniel Hudson, Brian Dozier, Tom Koehler, Zac Rosscup, John Axford, Eric Goeddel, Cesar Ramos, Justin De Fratus, Zach McAllister, Logan Ondrusek
[Los Angeles Dodgers Depth Chart | Los Angeles Dodgers Payroll | Projecting Payrolls: Los Angeles Dodgers]
The Dodgers came within one win of a World Series victory back in 2017 and returned for an encore last year before ultimately falling short again. Fans and front office alike will be hoping that third time’s the charm as they work to plug the gaps on an already-formidable roster. Make no mistake: while the Dodgers saw the contracts of over a third of their 40-man roster expire at the end of the 2018 season, they’ve got some heavy hitters still in place and figure to be aggressive in supplementing that core in order to remain among the elite National League clubs come Opening Day.
Two of those players whose contracts expired in November made up the top half of the club’s playoff rotation, which would have made for a concerning hole on the roster in another universe. But in this realm, Andrew Friedmann & Co. swiftly and decisively took the suspense out of the club’s would-be pitching need by re-upping with Clayton Kershaw on a three-year, $93MM contract and issuing Hyun-Jin Ryu a one-year, $17.9MM qualifying offer he’d ultimately accept. The two alone will combine to take Los Angeles to the cusp of the luxury tax ceiling (indeed, more if Kershaw meets some of the start-based incentives in his contract), but they’ll continue to have one of the more enviable one-two punches in the NL. For the Dodgers, the convenience of solving such a dilemma with money alone allowed them to get a leg up before the winter even began.
While they’ve got an advantage at the top of their rotation, the depth they have in that area is perhaps even more unique. Beyond Kershaw and Ryu, rookie sensation Walker Buehler will return to the club and will continue to represent a huge value as a pre-arb performer. As for rounding out the starting five, they’ve got no shortage of options. Alex Wood, Ross Stripling, Rich Hill, Kenta Maeda and even Julio Urias are all talented pitchers that most teams would be happy to slot in as mid-rotation guys, but who’ll instead be competing for back-end starter and long relief roles for a pitching-wealthy Dodgers ballclub. While a great number of these players have significant injury concerns, the depth alone should easily carry the club through all but the most extreme of health-related misfortunes. If there’s an area of need on this team, it’s certainly not in the rotation.
So of course it was easily predictable that one of the club’s most notable pursuits so far has been an improvement in the starting rotation. They’ve reportedly discussed multiple trade scenarios with the Indians already, most notably one that would send two-time Cy Young Award-winner Corey Kluber to Los Angeles. While the Dodgers’ pitching depth is certainly impressive, Kluber would present a gargantuan upgrade over anyone in that group without a Cy Young Award to his name. Some might argue that he’s even got the edge over Kershaw himself at this stage of their careers in terms of sturdiness and reliability. Any real pursuit of Kluber (or even his teammate, Trevor Bauer) wouldn’t seem to be made with the regular season in mind, but rather with the goal of improving the playoff rotation to extraordinary heights. It’s not clear who they’d be willing to ship to Cleveland in such a deal, though it’s worth pointing out that the Indians have a long-term need at catcher and outfield, both of which are perceived areas of prospect depth for the Los Angeles organization.
Speaking of catchers, the Dodgers would appear to have a need behind the dish for the 2019 season after watching longtime backstop Yasmani Grandal reject their qualifying offer. The club owns two of MLB Pipeline’s top ten catching prospects, so it’s possible that one or both of Keibert Ruiz and Will Smith could be given the opportunity to win the job (in tandem with incumbent Austin Barnes) right out of spring training. Ruiz in particular would figure to be a fine long-term solution there if his development plays out as predicted by several prospect pundits across the industry. Of course, if the club was comfortable with that as their plan A, they probably wouldn’t have already committed so much focus to finding an upgrade at this early juncture of the offseason. They’ve been connected to J.T. Realmuto of the Marlins, for instance, and appeared to be in play for former Tribe catcher Yan Gomes before he was ultimately dealt to the Nationals. A reunion with Grandal is certainly within the realm of possibility, though it seems somewhat unlikely based on his postseason difficulties along with the team’s payroll outlook (more on that later) and other potential priorities.
Whether or not the Dodgers will use any of their available resources to fortify the bullpen behind franchise closer Kenley Jansen is anybody’s guess. One could make a strong case that it’s an area of need; a mass exodus of depth pieces and an offseason heart procedure for the resilient Jansen point to a need for some further padding. Yet an equally strong case could be made that the ’pen is actually an area of strength for Los Angeles, given the track record of Jansen (and optimism that he’ll be ready for Opening Day) coupled with the upside of relievers like Dylan Floro, Tony Cingrani and Caleb Ferguson. Further reinforcing the latter argument is the likelihood that the starting rotation depth will bleed over into the relief corps; pitchers like Wood, Maeda, and Urias could serve as strong multi-inning weapons out of the bullpen.
If the Dodgers elect to pursue relievers on the free agent market, there’s a wealth of talented, proven arms to choose from; they wouldn’t have any trouble enticing one or more of them to join their storied franchise. But if they opt not to pay up for any major additions (or trade prospect capital for a reliever under contract), the way they deploy their pitching staff in 2019 would be a fascinating story to follow. The pitching landscape has been evolving rapidly for the past few seasons, and the 2019 Dodgers would be a prime candidate to utilize their wealth of twice-through-the-order-type starters and upside relief pitchers to mix and match pitchers and get outs in a creative manner. They were already one of a few teams to toy with the idea of using an “opener” last season. Recently-extended skipper Dave Roberts has all the right tools in place to take another bold step forward as far as creativity, and while that’s nothing at all resembling a guarantee that he’ll do so, it’s at the very least an intriguing potential storyline to follow and definitely a small item for fans to keep tucked away in the back of their minds as they watch the club’s offseason news and rumors.
When imagining all possible outcomes of the Dodgers’ 2018-2019 offseason, it’s impossible not to consider the fates of free agent juggernauts Bryce Harper and Manny Machado, each of whom is expected to sign a contract larger than any player to date. Machado, who spent the latter half of the season in Los Angeles and contributed significantly to their postseason run, now seems like somewhat of an unlikely fit due to the presence of Justin Turner at third base and the expected return of Corey Seager to shortstop. On the other hand, one could envision a scenario in which Seager shifts to the right side of the infield to play at the keystone, clearing room for Machado at short and pushing Enrique Hernandez into his accustomed super utility role. In other words, while Machado doesn’t seem like a perfect fit, it wouldn’t be wise to entirely rule the Dodgers out, either.
When it comes to Harper, there’s been some confusion as to the organization’s level of engagement to date. There’s a clear logical fit there, to the point that MLBTR predicted Los Angeles as the landing spot for the former MVP. He’d provide a sizable upgrade in production over Yasiel Puig, Matt Kemp and Joc Pederson, even before weighing the fact that the former two are set to depart after the coming season, while the latter will be a free agent at the end of 2020. Top prospect Alex Verdugo is ready for a full run at the majors, but the club may not be willing to rely on him fully and could also dangle him in trade scenarios. Put more simply, a long-term commitment to Harper would provide a significant upgrade in the near-term while answering long-term questions about the organization’s outfield picture and providing stability there for over a decade.
The caveat to all this, and to any other pursuits the Dodgers might make in free agency, is that they could potentially be facing significant financial restraints in contrast with years past. As MLBTR’s own Rob Huff outlined in his recent payroll projection piece, a document prepared by someone within the Dodgers organization suggests that they intend to remain below the luxury tax threshold every year between now and 2022. Indeed, the payroll target for 2019 outlined within said document is only $185MM, which is eight figures south of Roster Resource’s current projection for the club with arbitration salaries taken into account. Huff doesn’t believe that the Dodgers will actively move to shed payroll (a sentiment I imagine echoes throughout the industry), but as he said in the above piece, if their plans haven’t changed, it’s difficult to see them adding any sort of marquee free agent at all, let alone either of the top two players on the market. They’ve also yet to guarantee a free agent more than $50MM under Friedmann’s tenure. It’s reasonable to question how much to read into that leaked document, though clearly the current iteration of club leadership will continue to prioritize efficient spending.
Of course, there are plenty of ways in which the Dodgers could clear payroll space that could be repurposed. Just last winter, the club was involved in one of the offseason’s most surprising swaps, which essentially amounted to an exchange of future dollar commitments (or at least, it seemed that way before Kemp’s surprising resurgence). That they’ve shown a willingness to get creative in the past leaves open the possibility that they’ll explore multiple avenues of gaining some financial flexibility this year as well. While there’s no realistic way to recoup any of the nearly $18MM owed to Scott Kazmir, Hector Olivera and Yasiel Sierra combined for the 2019 season, MLBTR’s Jeff Todd listed Kemp among LA’s potential contract swap candidates. We’ve already seen contracts moved around the league this winter, and there are endless possibilities for money-shifting swaps that could make better use of salary space. In addition, trading relatively expensive players from areas of depth (such as Hill, Puig or Wood) for MLB-ready prospects or minimum-salary players who can fill an area of need would be another method of reallocating financial resources, even if the club ultimately needed to pay down some of the money owed to those players in order to get a deal done.
If they’re unable to find any financial wiggle room to pursue players on the free agent market, and/or are unwilling to spend much past the competitive balance tax line, the Dodgers have more than enough prospect capital in the farm system to address any needs via trade. They’re one of the few teams with both a need at catcher and enough assets in the farm system to swing a trade for Realmuto, so that’ll be one pursuit to pay close attention to. But it’s not difficult to imagine them pursuing upgrades at first base, either. Paul Goldschmidt would be the prime target there, though he’d likely come at a premium given the division rivalry between the Dodgers and Diamondbacks. Jose Abreu and Justin Smoak present alternative options, and it’s not out of the question that the Mariners could look to unload the recently-acquired Carlos Santana (who spent several years in LA’s farm system) onto another club, either. Adding a corner piece would allow the Dodgers to utilize Cody Bellinger more often as an outfielder, which would change the complexion of the unit discussed above. He has lined up there quite a bit over his first two seasons in the majors already. Those are all just speculative fits, obviously, but the overall point being made here is that Friedmann & Co. have some creative ways to upgrade and more than enough minor league talent to get a deal done if that ends up being their goal.
As far as MLB clubs go, the Dodgers are a major wild card this offseason. They could spend tens of millions or nothing at all; they could make a blockbuster trade for a star-caliber player or largely stand pat; they could make upgrades at multiple positions or begin the year mostly with the cards already in hand. Regardless of what happens, one thing is certain: there will be no shortage of Dodgers rumors to follow as the hot stove begins to flare up. Expect them to be connected to several high-priced free agents and big-name trade targets as the winter wears on. But even if they don’t ultimately make a big splash, fans can sleep easy knowing that their team is already built to make another serious run at a championship this coming season.
petfoodfella
I still think they should have let Kershaw walk. His contract won’t bring back value.
baseballpun
Every fan is an economist these days. Arb-eligible and, especially, pre-arb players are undervalued. FAs are usually overvalued. It evens out to some extent. Unless you’re able to luck into pre-arb premium talent,* you have to overpay to have the cream of the crop on your team. If you have a roster full of surplus value, you’re the Rays – a well-run front office with no rings to show for it.
*And developing really top-level talent is mostly luck. The Angels got Trout because most teams, including the Angels, passed on him. The Cardinals got Pujols in the 13th round. Nats got Strasburg and Harper because those two were available the years Washington had 1st overall picks.
Kenleyfornia74
Sure he is declining from his prime, but your acting like he is a 4 ERA guy now. He is still a very decent pitcher and at worst a very good 2 starter. A team just paid 140 million for Corbin. I think the Dodgers can handle their future hall of famer at a slightly diminished version of himself
zachgwest
Yea, I agree Kershaw is still very good but what playoffs? That is more than a issue now
Kenleyfornia74
We saw in the playoffs that starting Kershaw in game 2 was a big advantage. I think next year Buehler would get the ball in a game 1 and he will have earned it. He was flat out dominate in the WS
zachgwest
Yea, I like him
corey5kersh22
I hope we trade for Syndergaard so that in the playoffs our rotation would be Buehler, Kershaw, Thor, Julio Urías. Ryu, Hill, Maeda, Chicken strip in the bullpen.
andthelordspoketh
Nah, I say send Urias, Verdugo and Alvarez for Kluber then sign Marwin Gonzalez and Wilson Ramos.
sportsnut969
I believe Verdugo , Urias and one of Ruiz , May or Lutz gets a Kluber deal done I would think.
Dodgers gave Alvarez a 16 bonus to sign so I do not see him as being a piece they would be looking to deal without cash on their investment coming back or the Indians throwing monies in the deal which is not going to happen..
Now maybe they would do a say if Lutz is part of a Kluber trade then send Kipnis and 8 to 10 mil to the Dodgers for Alvarez.
At that point I would think that Bauer would end up being dealt at some point this off season also,
MahatmaGagne
Why in Sams hell would the Dodgers give up Urias? smh……I hate reading terrible takes. Idiots
andthelordspoketh
So far Urias has not shown that much but inconsistency, he is not the type of pitcher that will jump in and push them over the top. He is not that young anymore and has pitched little in the last 2 years. He may end up good, but if the Dodgers want to win a WS at some point it has to be about now. They have been right there 2 seasons now and if trading Urias and Verdugo can get them the type of player to win it, they should pull the trigger. Kluber is a true Ace now with playoff success, while 32 he still can give you two very good seasons. If you need a pitcher to help take you over the top he can be it. Also, the Dodgers have plenty of young arms and a new homegrown Ace in Buhler that is 25.. Signing Ramos and Marwin Gonzalez would fill out the roster and provide insurance in case Seager’s recovery is slow and he struggles early coming back.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Here’s the problem with this train of thought. The Dodgers have never shown an inclination to trade this type of skill set at its lowest value. Nor should they, and it’s paid dividends. Urias, going on 23, basically has little to zero tv, until he shows he healthy. And not healthy in a sense that he can throw, but in a sense that he can throw on a regular schedule which he didn’t. He’s more valuable than a third/fourth piece lotto ticket which is rightfully what the Indians likely see him as. Also take it from the Indians perspective, you’re going to ask for a guy who is going to be out of options soon before he’s full bore for the rotation and a super 2? It just doesn’t add up on any level.
Whether or not he sees the majors this year as a SP, the assessment that he can’t push them over the top is ridiculous especially now that SPs with his stuff are being unleashed as hybrids in the playoffs. Say what you want about the playoff failures, but the major issue hasn’t been the rotation it’s been the pen or stars not showing up. I also think there’s been a bit of overvaluing of Kluber, and that’s not taking anything away from a CY young caliber 200IP workhorse. So if you’d like to throw out packages of Verdugo, Smith, ,May, Alvarez sure I can take it. It definitely hurts, but I can understand the thought process.
Marwin might be ever so flexible, but doesn’t really fit this team. He’s not a SS, and there are two defenders better up the middle. He’s a better corner type defender in which this team doesn’t need and is somewhat superfluous with the construction of this team. I can also bet the dodgers don’t get to that 4th year window Gonzalez probably gets. Ramos also is not really a fit for this team, and again the health of the knees with no DH is a huge concern. There are many ways this team can pivot to, but seems like there are better fits and less risk/better defensive matches. If I had to handicap this I’d say they wait the market out on Lowrie and they find a def first type C.
ray714
Trade Urias? HAHAHAHAHA idiots
juicemane
Nah, he’s only a 4+ ERA guy in the playoffs.
Yelsnit
How are the Madres pitchers in the playoffs?………..Nevermind
juicemane
Who wins a ring first in the next 5 years, us or you ?? haha looking more like us everyday
juicemane
They say the 2 billion the Dodgers spent the past 6 seasons is actually WAYYY more considering the luxury tax penalties.
Kenleyfornia74
lol Padres fans come up with funny stuff here. Padsfans said buehler was a “wasted draft pick”. Last year someone claimed they were a .500 team after signing Hosmer. The Padres in their history have never had any sustained success and until they prove it no one is buying the hype. Tatis is good but the rest of their position player core is underwhelming
Yelsnit
Not going to answer the question, I see.
juicemane
@dumsnit: Padres pitcher’s not good. Haven’t made the playoffs in a while. obvious to anyone who watches baseball.
Now answer my question. Who wins a ring first???
@Kenley: Not as underwhelming as your manager’s game/bullpen management skills.
Kenleyfornia74
Dodgers easy. They have a very good farm to add to an elite MLB core. The Padres have the #1 farm to add to a last place MLB core. Dodgers are the one spitting out ROY winners/canidates every season for all the hoopla about the Padres farm
Bringbacktheblue
Still better than the Doyers troll
baseballpun
Dodgers are more likely to win a ring before the Padres.
Kenleyfornia74
No one is scared of the Padres. For every Tatis we have a proven Seager and up and coming Gavin Lux. For every Mejia we have 2 other top catching prospects. For all your pitchers we have a proven staff at the MLB level including Walker Buehler and good arms in the minors like May and Santana. No one is scared of SD lol
empirejim
Leave it to a Padre fan to call out ANYONE on their playoff stats. How long has it been since the Padres showed up in October????
fred-3
You are in for extreme disappointment if you think the Padres will win a World Series before the Dodgers
Yelsnit
You sure about that?
Yelsnit
Dodgers win first. That’s a no-brainer.
I ask the question because of your fascination with trashing other teams, meanwhile……..Padres are garbage. Do you see why people laugh at you?
imindless
Funny how big you talk about padres when they are continunally a below average squad. What notable prospect have padres drafted, developed and turned out? Franmil is the closest thing to resemble an everyday player but he only has one season under his belt and other than that padres are terrible at drafting and developing there own talent. Sorry to burst your bubble but they are at best a 3rd place team in division for the foresee able future.
juicemane
…but its you losers who are laughing, so …LOL
juicemane
Says the guy who thinks the Dodgers could trade Puig for Kluber. You’re trade ideas are the worst, They get down voted more than me trolling on a Dodgers thread…. I’ll consider my audience. LOL
Yelsnit
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense…………..
juicemane
Well when we do , we won’t be paying our #1 SP 30 mil to take a dump on the mound twice every October. LOL
pr0ject2501
Ah the good ol “next year” padres. It’s been next year since 1969.
RedRooster
@Kenleyfornia74 No one listens to anything Pads Fans says. Dude is mental.
By the way what makes you so sure that Gavin Lux is more likely to succeed than Tatis? And what makes you think that May and Santana are more likely to succeed than the Padres pitching prospects?
its_happening
You’d be lucky to reach the playoffs once the next 5 years. Humble yourself.
juicemane
“lucky to make the playoffs next 5 years.”
You’re going against every experts predictions and every future metric that advanced stats has ever came up with….
….but sure!
Redturn2
No, you just pay a guy $15mil to pitch in 2020. Pads have no identity, over paid Myers, and Hosmer for what?
pr0ject2501
So trolly.
RedRooster
@juicemane I was referring to Pads Fans, not you. Although now that you mention it you fit that description as well…
marijuasher
“looking more like us everyday”
You mean bitter and jealous? That’s why you’re on the Dodger board and Dodgers don’t even know where your board is.
andthelordspoketh
I think it will take a package of something like Urias or Stippling (an MLB ready SP) with Verdugo (the #7 prospect in baseball) and Alvarez or Will Smith, maybe another mid-level prospect, to get Kluber.
Houston We Have A Solution
Plot twist- padres Dodgers dont win a world series next 5 years.
Dodgers are too stupid to actually put together a reliable bullpen and gonna dumpster dive again this year.
Padres seem impatient and gonna trade away assets for an injured Thor than wait it out and see what you got from a full season of Urias Mejia and the pitching.
corey5kersh22
I’m fine with trading any of those guys except for Julio. He’s gonna be another ace in the making for the dodgers
andthelordspoketh
Dodgers should sign Ramos and Marwin Gonzalez and trade for Kluber, I think that could put them over the top. If they can get away with a package of Urias, Verdugo and a few prospects in the 8-20 range within their system for Kluber..
Vickers
His contract may bring value when you consider the legacy. Jersey sales, sitting him in the caravan next to Sandy Koufax, commercial presence, and overall continuity for the team and fan base. Having a storied past becomes more and more important for future fans and directly affects how they spend money on the team.
restingmitchface
Steamer projects Kershaw for 3.7 fWAR in 2019. On the open market, one WAR is worth around $11MM.
Admittedly, $/fWAR isn’t an exact science. The point still stands, however. If Kershaw hits relative modest (for him) projections, there’d already be about $10MM of surplus value in 2019 alone. That’s pretty great for a franchise icon who’s only under contract through his age 33 season.
puigpower
Thanks for some actual realistic discussion. The people saying this is an overpay are obviously not aware that Kershaw is the best reg season pitcher of all time. This deal was a gift for LA
trace
90s Braves they are.
baseballpun
90s Braves got a ring.
hk27
90s Indians?
fred-3
What’s so bad about that?
restingmitchface
According to armchair baseball fans, losing the WS makes you way bigger of a loser than any other team in baseball. lol
It’s not worth getting too upset over. Apparently, some people have got nothing better to do with their time then bash other baseball teams in the middle of December.
zachgwest
Bullpen & finally a second baseman with a bat! They will be unstoppable. Why can’t more people play second? Second has to be weakest hitting position besides catcher? Russel Martin can play catcher and shortstop that’s just crazy
BlueJayFan1515
Martin played short 3 times last year out of Gibby’s desperation. He can play 3B, but he isn’t a catcher and shortstop hybrid. He is surprisingly altheletic for a 35 or 36 year old catcher though.
dimitrios in la
Their starting rotation will continue to have depth. A real asset in the event (as article states) of injury but also with how the game is trending (shorter starts and longer more adaptable relievers) and a deep post-season run. What the rotation lacks (especially with a declining Kershaw) is dominance. Perhaps that’s where Buehler come in this year.
zachgwest
They have a good enough starting rotation I think. They just need bullpen that’s what basically lost them WS two years in a row.
juicemane
I disagree about the bullpen. In order for a reliever to “do his job” then his ERA would be 0. Game management by an amateur is what cost them
zachgwest
Yes, Roberts def didn’t help I agree but having a second closer is now they key to any team I believe.
juicemane
Ryan Madson and Tony Cingrani were both closers. I think your GM already had that plan. It didn’t work.
captainsalty
Juicebrain you’re pointless
captainsalty
Reading your comments reminds me of listening to my kids argue with each other
marijuasher
That’s actually very kind of you, Captain. Juicy Fruit gets me thinking about my dog’s poop in the backyard.
juicemane
Couldnt compete with my baseball arguments so you go there…tell your mom she raised you well.
You’re gonna have to be more clever than that.
juicemane
If you can answer with something supporting your arguments. You might not have to resort to base actions. Advise for life.
juicemane
Well try watching and playing with them instead of wasting your time here….duh…and your kids dont use FIP or WAR totals to support their arguments.
Kenleyfornia74
They have the best 1-5 rotation in baseball because of the depth. If they were to get Kluber/Bauer it would be the best period
jekporkins
Last year I’d rather have Cleveland, Boston, Houston, Washington, Arizona, even the Mets.
Kenleyfornia74
Dodgers rotation ranked #2 in baseball only behind Houston. Theres a reason all those other teamd you listed besides Boston missed the playoffs. Those were top heavy rotations without depth at the bottom
Houston We Have A Solution
“Have the best”. Ranked 2nd best. They didnt have the best.
Now with Scherzer Strasburg corbin out in Washington they won’t have the best this year.
New York adds Eovaldi or a solid trade starter id take Paxton Severino Tanaka Eovaldi.
Kenleyfornia74
You dont know what 1-5 means. And i said this upcoming season where Houston is projected to lose Keuchel and Morton. The fact you said you would take the Yankees is funny. You must not have watched the postseason. Adding Paxton and someone else+ losing Happ doesn’t make up that gap
Houston We Have A Solution
1-5
Their 1 2 3 are better than your 1 2 3 and yoir 4 5 are better than their 4 5.
Advantage Washington. You do know 3 is greater than 2 right?
If the Yankees actually trade for bumgardner or some FOTR arm yeah I’d take the Yankees 4 easily.
Kenleyfornia74
Kershaw is just as good as Scherzer. Buehler is just as good as Strasburg. Ryu is just as good as Corbin. Nice try
Houston We Have A Solution
LOL.
Kershaw isnt just as good as scherzer. Since signing with the nats hes averaging around 214 innings per year, 275 ish Ks and a sub 3 FIP
Kershaw is averaging 180 innings per year, 190 ish Ks, sub 3 fip.
Advantage scherzer.
Buehler and strausberg ill give you
Ryu has never given the.dodgers 200 innings can barely crack 150. Corbin can and gives roughly the same.production
Advantage Corbin. Healthier versions get the nod.
Nice try though.
Kenleyfornia74
Your only argument is innings lol. Guess you cant match up performance because the stats would show im right. Between Kershaw and Scherzer guess who has ended up hurt in October when it mattered most? Wasnt Kershaw.
Houston We Have A Solution
Huh the guys who save your pen are more valuable. Go figure. Scherzer is striking out more hitters but whatever. Just as good means theyre giving you the same level of production. Making starts counts.
Speaking of showing up.
Someone forgot to tell Kershaw to show up in the world series
4ip, 7 hits, 5 earned runs, 3 walks, 5Ks
7IP, 4 hits, 4 runs, 3 home runs 5 k’ s
Kershaw blew it like usual.
fred-3
Why would they consider a 1B when they have Bellinger, Muncy, and the underrated David Fresse?
fred-3
Also have Edwin Rios in the minors
zachgwest
Edwin Rios is Andrew Toles prolly be a good player but won’t get a shot
zachgwest
Yea, I don’t understand that. They have no one at second. How about filling that huge hole from the past 4 years! Muncy can not play second he can let alone barely play first.
fred-3
“They have no one at 2nd”
Chris Taylor was worth 4 wins last year
zachgwest
So Chris Taylor who played 90% of games at CF and SS is now their 2b? I’m fine with that but I think he needs to back up Seager off injury and CF Bellinger if he struggles more or if Muncy doesn’t work out
larry48
Trade Muncy to American league he is a dh only
ghostofgradysizemore
Bellinger will probably play OF, Muncy isn’t guaranteed to repeat his performance and Freese is more of a platoon guy. Goldschmidt would be a clear upgrade over any of them, and Abreu and Smoak have longer track records.
fred-3
It’s pointless to even discuss Goldy because Arizona is not trading him to LA. The other 2 he list – Abreu and Smoak – are not upgrades to what they already have
c1234
He also lead baseball in strike outs
Cat Mando
c1234…..Who? Goldy?
juicemane
Muncy to regress the most of any everyday player next year, bank on it. We’ve seen this happen dozens of times. 1 year wonder. Abreu would be a massive upgrade. Proven player.
LADreamin
Muncy put up 4 WAR and 161 OPS+ last year. He’s playing 1B, no question. Do I think there will be some regression? Of course, but why would you replace someone preemptively that put up those kinds of numbers in a breakout year. Feels like being ungrateful for getting an unexpected gift.
Kenleyfornia74
Yup. He might not put up the same great numbers, but he will be respectable and decent
andthelordspoketh
LA should sign Marwin Gonzalez and Wilson Ramos, then trade for Kluber (maybe Urias, Verdugo and Alvarez would be enough)
deano 2
Funny article talking about getting more production with Goldy at 1B. Muncy lead majors with HR per AB. And Dodgers with total. Ignore him?
restingmitchface
Unless things have changed in AZ, the Dodgers wound have to massively overpay to acquire Goldy.
I just can’t see Ken Kendrick allowing him to be dealt to the Dodgers.
thinkbluela.com/2013/09/the-winner-of-the-worst-ow…
deano 2
I’d get a catcher and work on pen. With the way teams are going 5-6 innings with starters, does it make sense to have two closers?
empirejim
Woody will be a trade piece. Ferguson and Urias will be rotation pieces before the season is done. No mention by the author of the hole at 2B. Maybe Woody and a good prospect might get a Merrifield……
juicemane
Wood is better than Ferguson and Urias.
quxdraw
Most of these writers believe that Kiki will be at second base. I am ok with that and let Taylor be the super utility man.
LADreamin
Kike only hits lefties, he’s not an everyday player. We need an everyday 2B with gold glove defense and a high .OBP. The position has been a black hole for a while now. DJ LeMahieu comes to mind, but I’m not sure what he’ll cost in free agency.
quxdraw
2018 vs rhp .833 ops
vs lhp .780 ops
obp has been up about 25 points each of the last three years. Trending in the right direction. Also considered an above average fielder. A lot cheaper then DJ, and the Dodgers should spend that money to fix other problems
marijuasher
Kipnis goes with Kluber if the Dodgers head that route, though that’s a lot of money to cover.
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
Kipnis is not a 2b. In fact, the downward spiral with the bat makes him even more unplayable at 2nd. He might present in AAV savings if say Alonso was added and Kemp sent back, but even then it doesn’t make much sense unless it came with a depressed package of prospects. And this is the problem with certain narratives, because Kikè did show he could hit both sides. He actually grew up a bit offensively, but faltered in the playoffs. He probably deserves an opportunity to play everyday as does Taylor to prove he can make those adjustments. It’s a long winded way to say there is no need for Kipnis. The only reason to consider is the depression of luxury tax and of prospects which I can’t see the latter interesting Clev and even not sure it makes sense from Dodgers perspective.
restingmitchface
Why would the Royals want Alex Wood, though? He’s got very little value to a rebuilding org.
neoncactus
Doesn’t Wood only have one more year on his contract? If so, no way would the Royals take him in a deal for Merrifield.
algionfriddo
Time for Brock Stewart to get a chance with another organization. He would be in the rotation for several clubs (if healthy).
Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA
I wish I could agree. But no he wouldn’t. He might be in the pen, but the fact is he has a plus ch and a decent fb and well that’s it. He can’t locate even a get me over SL. The lack of even an average 3rd pitch is the reason he can’t stick in the rotation. It’s that simple.
vannzee
I could see them moving Pederson or Toles.
They need to play or trade Verdugo.
larry48
I see Toles going but Peterson and Verdugo need to stay Kemp will be gone after next year or before if he doesn’t hit in 2019 DFA. 2020 ourfield Verdogo, Billinger and Peterson. Assuming they don’t resign Puig.
zachgwest
Sadly Toles is worth nothing that’s why they haven’t moved him.
MetsYankeesRedSox
As long as Dave Roberts is at the helm, this Dodger team won’t win a WS.
zachgwest
Basically he’s a puppet
restingmitchface
It’s a good thing he’s not managing one your three favorite teams, then.
xabial
I’m entering hostile territory, but…
Harper’s ours! GO NYY GO
Samuel
Yankees have no interest in Harper.
But you did trigger something I hadn’t realized……
The similarity between Harper and Puig.
Both have a world of ability, and display it at times. Rifle arms, but not consistently good OF’s. Run fast, but not smart baserunners. Can hit with power, but not consistently. Not particularly good BA’s as they stubbornly hit into shifts. Poor situational hitters.
Both have proven to be undisciplined, low baseball-IQ players. Both have frustrated numerous coaches, managers, and front office people. Both have gotten a world of pub, and exalted in their celebrity. Both expect to be catered to.
restingmitchface
“Both have frustrated numerous coaches, managers, and front office people. Both have gotten a world of pub, and exalted in their celebrity. Both expect to be catered to.”
Right or wrong, and whether you’d like to believe it or not, this is, to a degree, most professional athletes.
xabial
Naturally, as a LH hitter…
Bryce saw the shift 41.4% of PA in 2018 up from 33.1% in 2017 and 19.3% in MVP 2015.
Yet, despite this, he adapted and got smarter, knowing who he is as a hitter with career-high walks, RBI, and most home runs since MVP.
Btw, How does leading MLB in walks “low IQ”?
“Can hit with power, but not consistently”?
Seven seasons into his career, Harper has averaged 30 homers per 150 games, with an even better OBP
Your best argument is “injuries” which, btw, is a concern, but comes from being overly-aggressive crashing into wall, slipping on wet bag… hustling!
restingmitchface
A lot of MLBTR are just shocked by sticker price. What they’re not understanding (at least, as far as I can tell) is that Machado and Harper are rare. The writers here recognize it, the writers at Fangraphs recognize it, and MLB FO’s certainly recognize it, too).
Even on a 10-year contract, you’re likely getting 7-8 years of prime performance. And in both cases (more so with Bryce, perhaps) you’re getting a highly-marketable superstar that puts asses in the seats.
JKB 2
Samuel that is interesting
andthelordspoketh
I think a Urias, Verdugo, Alvarez package for Kluber would be a fair deal for both sides. Dodgers should then sign Marwin Gonzalez (he can play SS and 2B with Seagerreturing from TJ) and Wlson Ramos (an upgrade at C over Grandal). to fill out the roster.
restingmitchface
They won’t be signing Martin Gonzalez. Not when Kiké Hernandez is as good (or better) and is being paid peanuts.
restingmitchface
Edit: Marwin
(stupid autocorrect)
LADreamin
Feels like extreme overpay for Kluber. Urias has the ability to put up front line numbers and is earning a lot less. He’ll be on the rise when Kluber will be declining. Father Time is undefeated.
restingmitchface
As a Dodgers fan, I’d do this deal in a heartbeat. That means it’s probably not near enough.
Just playing devil’s advocate: Urias has had major shoulder surgery, Alvarez reportedly has issues with his makeup and the command of his pitches, and Verdugo’s stock probably isn’t *quite* as high as it used to be (prospect fatigue is real).
That’s not to say these guys are without value (especially Verdugo and Urias), but Kluber is an established ace. If you’re Cleveland, would you trade a guy like Kluber for this return?
LADreamin
It’s definitely tempting… I want Kluber, but you need pre-arb studs for sustained success. Verdugo doesn’t suffer from prospect fatigue, he’s blocked by the logjam in our outfield. He’s an everyday outfielder with 6 years of control left, not to mention his rocket arm and CF capability. Urias had a shoulder issue, but he looks to have gotten past it. He was throwing lights out at the end of the year. Time will ultimately tell, but I’ll take those 2 on my team for the next 5 years, making peanuts so I can upgrade the team elsewhere. Alvarez, I’d trade in a heartbeat and I don’t want Bauer.
ray714
You sound dumb.. as most Dodgers fans online do.. plz stop.
1959dodgers
This article totally skipped over Max Muncy.
puigpower
I predict muncy traded for 2b or SP. Berlinger is a great 1b and CF, strange enough. Sign Harper and they’re done.
ray714
Urias , Verdugo , May, and whoever else thatcomment names for only Kluber? HAHAHA.. terrible trade idea there. Must’ve been a Indians fan