While fans, pundits and other teams all try to parse the Mariners’ flurry of offseason moves, Seattle GM Jerry Dipoto chatted with Fancred’s Jon Heyman and made a few definitive statements. Dipoto went on the record to indicate that the Mariners won’t be adding star right fielder Mitch Haniger to any trades as a means of persuading another team to take on a bad contract, nor will Seattle give any consideration to the thought of releasing Felix Hernandez this offseason, as some have speculated. Dipoto says there’s “zero” chance the Mariners would release King Felix this winter, adding that “out of respect to the career he’s had he deserves the opportunity” to right the ship in 2019. Heyman suggests that any of Ryon Healy, Carlos Santana, Jay Bruce, Anthony Swarzak or Mike Leake could be the next to go as the Mariners look to further reshape the organization.
Some more rumblings on both the trade and free-agent markets…
- Michael Brantley’s agents are telling interested teams that the left fielder is willing to play some first base next season, tweets Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. Brantley hasn’t played the position since a brief crash course there in the minors back in ’08, and no club is looking at him as a regular at first, Rosenthal notes. That said, Brantley’s willingness to play a new position won’t make him any less appealing to interested parties. One thing that could push suitors away, however, would be his asking price. David O’Brien of The Athletic suggests that Brantley could be looking for a Carlos Santana-esque salary of $20MM over a three-year term — a lofty ask for a player with his injury history. The 31-year-old was undeniably terrific at the plate in 2018, as he typically is when healthy, but shoulder and ankle injuries wiped out most of his 2016-17 seasons. O’Brien further tweets that the Braves might be willing to go to three years for Brantley, but not at an annual value anywhere near that rate.
- Max Kepler’s name is commonly brought up when rival clubs call the Twins about potential trades, per Dan Hayes of The Athletic (subscription required). That’s been the case for more than a year now, Hayes notes, reporting that Kepler was one of the numerous pieces the Rays sought last winter when chatting Chris Archer with Minnesota. But the Twins still believe that Kepler, an excellent outfielder defender who has displayed some power but not authored a genuine breakout season just yet, is capable of taking his game to a new level. As chief baseball officer Derek Falvey explains to Hayes, it’s tough to judge Kepler’s development as one would with a traditional prospect given that he was born in Berlin, Germany and has still accrued fewer at-bats than many players who are several years younger but come from places where baseball is commonly played year-round. A strong right fielder who can play center as well, Kepler won’t turn 26 until February and still has four years of team control remaining.
- The Rangers are doing their homework on Japanese lefty Yusei Kikuchi, GM Jon Daniels tells T.R. Sullivan of MLB.com. Daniels declined to comment on the Rangers’ specific level of interest in Kikuchi but suggested that his scouts are “obviously” aware of the Seibu Lions ace, who was posted for MLB clubs earlier this week. While early rumors have suggested that Kikuchi may prefer a West Coast club, the Rangers are no strangers to pursuing high-profile NPB talent, as evidenced by their acquisition of Yu Darvish several years ago (admittedly under a different posting system). While Texas isn’t in position to contend next season, the 27-year-old Kikuchi is a logical target even for non-contending clubs, as his relative youth means that he could still be in his prime when a rebuilding club turns the corner. And, given Texas’ utter dearth of pitching, it’s only logical that they’d have interest in a youthful option with a fair bit of upside.
biasisrelitive
As a twins fan I’d deal Kepler but only if it brought back a controllable starter. Can’t think of anyone who would fit the bill assuming the Indians are off the table and Mets will likely keep Thor to contend.
Priggs89
You’re going to have to set your sights much, much lower if Kepler is any more than a distant second (or even third) piece to a deal.
jbigz12
Yeah man. He’s a slick fielding corner outfielder who hasn’t provided anything with the stick yet. He has value as the player he is but he’s about to enter arbitration and a D first corner guy isn’t netting a frontline controllable pitcher. And to be honest with you he probably doesn’t fit on too many rebuilding clubs because he’s burnt up service time. I could see the Phillies as a possible match because they certainly have a hole in their OF and they have some nice controllable but not top notch arms. Something like Pivetta or Eflin for Kepler is probably more realistic at this point. And I’m not real sure the Phillies would do that considering the alternatives on the FA market and the fact that young controllable pitching is harder to find.
kreevich
Then I’d say Kepler and the Same wins just settle in together for the long haul. There is absolutely no need to move him.
redsfan48
Kepler has been just about average offensively each of the past 3 years. An average hitter that plays great defense is still plenty valuable, and his value will skyrocket if he breaks out offensively.
jbigz12
That’s a big if. Pivetta and Eflin Posted FIP’s in the mid 3’s last year and Pivetta specifically put up gaudy K numbers. They have just as much breakout potential.
biasisrelitive
Kinda similar to Kepler then, big time potential but not proven
jbigz12
Yes that’s what I was saying. My only thing was that pitcher who have that potential are typically valued a little higher in today’s game.
kleppy12
According to this article MLB GM’s disagree with you.
biasisrelitive
Obviously would have to add some valuable pieces around him but is more than just a third piece LOL
Obviously it depends on who your target is
jorge78
How about bonuses for Brantley for days not on injured reserve/games played?
randallsimon
There need to be more contracts like this. That’s where MLB is remiss compared to the NFL contract wise. You have to perform to get paid.
PhanaticDuck26
Tony Clark says F that noise…
baseballpun
Nobody should be copying NFL labor practices in any respect.
brandons-3
All that would do is give owners a bigger portion of the pie. Casual fans don’t understand that the revenue professional sports leagues bring in doesn’t change regardless of how much that’s being dished out in player contracts. Sure, players would make less which only makes owners richer.
xabial
No where does it say how much Rangers paid to negotiate w/ Darvish… Why would teams agree to nerf bids like 51.7M posting fee TEX paid to negotiate with Darvish?
joshua.barron1
Are you asking why NBP got rid of the old blind posting system? The new one is better for all parties involved.
xabial
Yeah my bad. obviously all MLB teams want to pay less, but 51.7M paid upfront for right to negotiate is something else. Sure NBP teams only get paid the posting fee if the contract is agreed upon with MLB team but usually they were under previous system. How is the new one better for all parties involved? Seems unnecessarily complicated like the new QO system.. but that’s a story for another day
jbigz12
How is the QO system unnecessarily complicated, X? They helped fixed a system that was badly broken. Badly. Was it better for marginal players like yovani gallardo to have to sit and wait until some team would bite in FA because they were scared of losing a pick? This system makes much more sense for the players and for the teams.
jd396
Just to be clear, you actually think the QO system fixed free agency and has improved the situation for marginal free agents?
NL_East_Rivalry
Do you remember how it used to work? This system is many times better than the old while keeping the main points and reasoning in tact.
xabial
I’m just saying when they agreed to cap it to 20M then apply new posting rules hows it better for NBP teams, than receiving 50M+ upfront like DiceK Yu?
Cat Mando
Because not every player posted is a DiceK or Yu and not every right to negotiate would be in the $50M+ range. Now NPB teams get $20M plus…
For Major League contracts with a total guaranteed value of $25 million or less, the release fee will be 20% of the total guaranteed value of the contract;
For Major League contracts with a total guaranteed value between $25,000,001 and $50 million, the release fee will be: (i) 20% of the first $25 million of the guaranteed total (i.e. $5 million) plus (ii) 17.5% of the total guaranteed value exceeding $25 million;
For Major League contracts with a total guaranteed value of $50,000,001 or more, the release fee will be: (i) 20% of the first $25 million of the guaranteed total (i.e. $5 million) plus (ii) 17.5% of the total guaranteed value between $25,000,001 and $50 million (i.e. $4,375,000) plus (iii) 15% of the total guaranteed value exceeding $50 million
For Major League contracts that contain bonus, salary escalators or options (Club, mutual or vesting), the Club may owe a supplemental release fee at a later date equal to 15% of any bonuses or salary escalators actually earned by the player under his contract, and/or 15% of any compensation paid to the player in Club, mutual or vesting option years that were exercised or vested;
For Minor League contracts, the release fee will be a flat 25% of the signing bonus. (For Minor League contracts of “Foreign Professionals” that contain Major League terms, a supplemental release fee will be owed if the player is added to the 25-man roster.)
If Tanaka or Maeda had been posted under the current system their NPB teams would have rec’d more than the $20M they got.
bravesfan1970
Well written comment.
BuddyBoy
Why not give him a shot in a rebuilding year? He’s not blocking anyone and you have to pay him anyway. Get a grip
adamontheshore
The Mariners are not going to win next year and they likely won’t be competitive in 2020 either, and I believe that Hernandez is a free agent after 2019 (I think he has a club option for 2020 which will not be exercised unless he miraculously turns back the clock), so why would they release him. The fans love him, and I suspect that his last couple of starts next year will get butts in the seats as a kind of farewell. So why would they release him when they can actually try and make a few bucks on a wasted contract in a year that they have no aspirations of competing? It is okay to be mad as a Mariners fan; but in this case, you are just wrong.
Ejemp2006
Even after dumping half their payroll, the Mariners could still feasibly contend for the second wild card because after the class of the AL, Astros, BoSox, and Yankees, everyone else is a dumpster fire. And please don’t tell me the Indians with their weak hitters or the A’s with their scab crew of starters are legit.
jekporkins
I’ll disagree here… after trading half their decent players, the Mariners can’t compete for anything other than third in their division and a .400 record. The Astros won over 100 games and the A’s won 97. Even if both teams slumped ten games it would be more than what Seattle could bring. Minnesota, Toronto, Tampa Bay, ChiSox, even the Angels are better at this point. Not to mention the offseason is just heating up. I highly doubt the Mariners are done dumping payroll.
24TheKid
The only way the Mariners compete is if they keep Haniger. And of Sheffield and Swanson have breakout seasons in the rotation.
mr206
Lol I mean they should let the king pitch for a winning team if they respect him so much lol he deserves that much
adamontheshore
He would seriously hamper any teams chances of being a winning team if he was a regular starter for them. Let him pitch in Seattle, he signed a long-term contract with them when he could have left to chase rings with better franchises and at the time of the signing it was a pretty good deal or the Mariners. No one but the Mariners, and maybe a few other non-contenders hoping he somehow bounces back and gains trade value, would let him near a mound.
Ejemp2006
The A’s could probably somehow find a way to bring him back to respectability. They must have magic sauce stored up in the bellows of the Colliseum because there is no way Cahill and Fiers have better stuff than King Felix. I say send him to Oakland so he can win another Cy Young.
steelerbravenation
All I heard all season was how much money the Braves should have come free agency this offseason and here we are and our GM clearly states they pretty much used up the excess money on 2 guys. I don’t understand all the bad contracts coming off the books and all the prearb players on the roster where is all the money ????
I am not saying run out and sign Machado & Harper both but come on the Braves should have enough money in the budget to add a SP, RF & RP thru free agency plus have a couple dollars for a couple in season deals if needed.
And is there any more perfect of a match for a trade in Julio Teheran for Domingo Santana ????
Knowthemarket
Where did you read AA saying anything like that?
If you are struggling with the Brantley statement from O’Brien this may simply be that the Braves don’t feel he is worth that much with his injury history.
steelerbravenation
He had a Q & A somewhere a couple days ago and said most of the available funds have been used up on Donaldson & McCann. Can’t find the source right now. By the time I have a chance to this thread will be long gone down the list.
Cat Mando
mlbtraderumors.com/atlanta-braves
bbritton209
He didn’t say we were out of the running on anyone. He simply said that Donaldson took up a large chunk of what we had to spend (50-60M depending on who you ask) so now we would have to be more selective of contract offers. He never said we wouldn’t be making offers or that we were done. There is nothing wrong with his statement.
We still have plenty of room to add all the pieces we need and plenty of time to do it. The statement about Brantley’s desire for a contract wasn’t about Braves not having the money but rather the value of the contract. Why put out all that money for a guy who won’t play for you because he’s on the DL? I’d love to bring Brantley in but not on a huge contract that could possibly hinder us a year or two from now.
Jacked225
It’s a game of chess. Can’t let everyone know how much money you have or even that you have a lot or asking prices will go up. Braves have to act like the middle market team they are even if they have more money than usual so they can keep the contracts where they want them. Or at least I hope that’s the reason lol
mj-2
If those previous comments about using up most of their funds in Donaldson are even remotely true it was a terrible waste of resources.
I’d like to think those statements are just posturing on his end, but if they end up not signing some of the quality relievers (and there’s plenty to choose from) to provide some more stability because they used all their money on Donaldson then they genuinely misplaced their resources.
Essentially they’ll have made 1 major move for a position that was previously well occupied by Camargo not to mention have a guy in the minors waiting in the wings
It really better not be the majority of their funds used or AA should flat out be fired.
steelerbravenation
MLB.com has a post up there where AA is saying the closer will more than likely come from within whether its Vizzy or Minter
This is what I am talking about how much money did AA actually have to work with this off-season ?
Zach725
Nobody knows. It wouldn’t be smart for him to come out and say we only have $15 million left or whatever that number is. He’s telling fans that he’s only going to make smart moves.
mj-2
Yeah I saw that article on Braves site too.
If they fill it internally they deserve 4th place
Ejemp2006
Please Braves don’t listen to this fellow! This FA market is rift with booby traps. Glad they avoided Eovaldi and Corbin. Keep the money in the bank, ear-marked for extension years come around for this beautiful core. Or, or, go for the gusto, at 3 years a piece sign Kimbrel, Miller, Robertson, eat Greinke’s contract, and bring in Marwin Gonzalez as a super utility. Then you win the NL east every year for the next three years and you’ll have a clean slate for big extension at just the right time.
steelerbravenation
Kimbrel wants 6 yrs so you will not get him.
I never wanted Evoldi or Corbin and don’t want Keuchel for that matter either.
I have been on Greinke since last season but for AA to come out & say funds are now low then I can’t see him happening. Arizona is not going to eat that unless major prospects go back.
Bumgarner is the best fit but for the prospects going back for 1 year will be a huge overpay.
I think they need more coming back to justify aquiring him.
Pache, Allard, Wilson & Biddle for Will Smith & MadBum
bbritton209
He never said “funds are low” just said that with such a significant portion of our budget gone we’d have to make sure we are smart about our remaining choices.
Eddy Treadway
If it were the middle of February I would understand where you are coming from. The winter meetings haven’t even started though, and the team has long stated they’d be more active in the trade front (which usually really get going at the meetings). Any comment about earmarked funds could very easily be posturing, or then being smart and setting money aside for extensions that are coming up for Folty, Ozzie and Acuna. Anthopolous has kept talking about value in any decision and not being reckless. He’s also shown that he likes to be extremely covert in what he’s working on. 20 million for Brantley would be irresponsible. Saying they don’t have the money for a bad contract isn’t saying they don’t have money. I refuse to believe the front office doesn’t have a lot of parts in the air e.g. Moving Julio to make room for a tor arm and to not block a young arm. Just need time for it all to come together. Wait until at least after the meet gs to light torches and grab pitchforks
steelerbravenation
Yeah you talked me off the ledge
I agree Brantley would be irresponsible. I don’t want him at all. If they sign an OF I want either Markakis back or Cutch.
I still think Teheran for Domingo Santana makes a lot of sense.
Does anybody think Gohora could get Leclerc by himself. I remember Texas was interested in him at the deadline.
southi
Anthopoulos said that it was “a good chunk” and the article said a “significant portion” but BOTH if those terms are very vague and could mean extremely different things to different people. We would fully expect Anthopoulos to be secretive about how much money has been spent of the budget and what excess remains. I’m going to GUESS that somewhere between 35 to 65% of the available money is already gone. On the low end that leaves a sizeable chunk left to be spent, but on the opposite end (precluding trading away someone like Teheran) the Braves would need to be much more pennywise. Only time will tell but I for one am not worried. I fully expect some significant moves to be made by Atlanta.
Msteele
the outfielder who I think gets less pub and still just as dangerous. Adam Jones.
The BAL ties are a bit there with Braves. Great leader. What’s status on him??? Anyone?
jbigz12
A decline in pop while playing in OPACY is scary. You saw Machado and Schoop (to the extreme) numbers go down after leaving. I’d be wary of a guy who put up league average offense like jones in OPACY. He’s only passable in a corner at this point and if he’s really only a 15 hr guy there’s not a ton of value there. I don’t think he’s the kind of guy that wants to platoon either…He’ll probably have to accept that role if he wants to be on a decent team though. I’ll always love jones for his days in Baltimore but the man has flaws and i don’t think that I’d bank on him to be in my starting OF if I was trying to contend.
Ejemp2006
I’d love to see Jones sign with a team that has an easy right field to defend, like Detroit. If he has a minimum amount of turf to cover, his reads on the ball are still good enough to help him hold up as a starting RF. In fact, yes, Tigers please sign Jones and while you’re at it, sign Billy Hamilton too. It’s about time you get players that can field with skills consistent to Comerica’s requirements. Hell even JD Martinez could do Detroit’s RF.
baseball1600
RIP Luis Valbuena, Jose Castillo. Tragic.
xabial
“Valbuena, José Castillo, and Carlos Rivero were in a car in Yaracuy driven by Rivero’s chauffeur when the car struck a rock and wrecked. Rivero and driver survived, but Castillo and Valbuena were killed.” Rest in peace
billysbballz
Very very sad. RIP.
steelerbravenation
RIP very sad
NYMETSHEA
Though I do believe that Michael Brantley is not worth 20 million per season, I do not agree on the injury risk assessment on him. Though it was lengthy and recent, injury history consists of only 1 1/2 seasons worth. Nothing compared to the history for A.J. Pollock.
Production seems to be the issue. Though Michael Brantley will provide contact and on base ability, I do not see long term value for a player that will not provide much power. Extra base hits could sliightly increase, but I see declining value for a player in wrong side of 30’s.
Would not see much value past 3 years @ 45 mil.
Ejemp2006
Brantley would be smart to have a magic number of 3/27
bravesfan
Braves better not pay that insane amt of money for Brantley….
Samuel
I like Brantley a lot. But here are the problems I see in his free agency……
o His injury history.
o His arm is weak (though not as bad as Renfroe’s). He must play LF, maybe some 1B / DH /PH.
o I saw a stat on him from an opposing teams broadcast late in the season, maybe August that shocked me……..
While playing full-time, Brantley had only hit a handful of balls (6?) on a line over the infield the previous 6-8 weeks. He was hitting lazy flys to the OF, but very little solid. His hits were mostly grounders through the infield.
I didn’t watch enough Indians games to see if in fact he did lose power as the season went on. If so, maybe he was mildly hurt again?
.309 / .364 / .468 / .832 / 3.8 (OWAR) is nothing to scoff at, although he did only go 2 for 10 with a walk in the playoffs.
Don’t blame his agent trying for $20m. Carlos Santana got that, and Brantley is a much, much better player.
Zach725
I’d rather have the braves sign McCutchen. He gets on base at a high right, and would serve as a fine #4 hitter.
brent8706
Rest in Piece Luis Valbuena and Jose Castillo
brent8706
Peace
Christian Larsen
R.I.P. Luis Valbuena and Jose Castillo
brent8706
Sad day man
Altanta Barves
Brantley should also tell his agent he only deserves to play for the league minimum since he’s always hurt and basically worthless.
Rich Hill’s Elbow
Why trade Kepler if he’s about to break out?? And it’s not like the Mets would trade “Thor” for Kepler straight up, they’d probably try to rip us off and ask for Lewis, Graterol, and Kepler. Nope, “Thor” ain’t worth it, especially if he’s only gonna make 20 starts a year.
dust44
Felix has a lot of innings on that arm. He was once the best pitcher in baseball. And he deserves to be where he wants to b to continue his career. But, if I was him. I’d want to go play for a contender. (If one would take him)
bobtillman
I could never get this great love affair with Kepler Nice kid, good story (born in Germany, I think), but he’s the prototype of a 4th OFer who only starts on non-competitive teams. While excellent in RF, he’s decidedly “meh” in CF. Now that the arb clock is ticking, you have to realize there are minimum wage AAA OFers who are going to give you what Kepler gives you. If Kepler is one of your “impact” guys, you’re probably less than a .500 team. There are better, and more productive, places for a mid-market team to spend their money. .
Kikuchi’s interesting, but getting a lot of attention because everybody’s looking for the next Mikolis. But not everybody who transitions is Mikolis. I’ve seen reports that call him a 2nd starter, and some that peg him a 4th. With the release fee, that’s a lot to pay for a 4th starter. And I think the Rays made a good point last year. How much more effective are 4th starters vis a vis a ‘bullpen day”? NPB pitchers seem married to a strict regimen that seems to preclude them from having the kind of flexibility you might be looking for.
Brantley? Ya, I’ve loved the guy since he came up. But he’s obviously made of glass.
IMHO you’re better off stitching some kind of corner OFer out of Clutch/Jones and Span, who nobody mentions but isn’t a bad player at all (and, they say, is amazing in the clubhouse). Maybe not Clutch, because he wants a lot, but Jones/Span isn’t a bad platoon, and either can run out and play CF is necessary, tho admittedly you want to avoid that. .
twins33
I’m not ready to give up on Kepler yet. Compare Kepler’s stats to Aaron Hicks stats as a Twin. Kepler is better and the Twins moved Hicks. Now look at what Hicks is doing the last two years. I was one of the people who was finally done with Hicks. I certainly regret that now.
Maybe Kepler doesn’t do the same thing, but I surely do not want a repeat of that trade. If Kirilloff pushes him out in 1-2 years because he’s so good then fine but right now you just have to be patient with him. Lots of players don’t hit their stride until mid to upper 20s and he’s cheap. Use up his cheap years and trade him or drop him after that if you need to. May end up holding on to him for too long, which would be unfortunate but I’d rather that happen than he become a very good player elsewhere because the Twins were too impatient.
Also I’d much rather have Kepler in center than Cave, if no Buxton. Regardless the Twins probably do need to sign an OF anyway, but it’s more Buxton insurance than anything else.
juicemane
Other free agent notes:
Harper’s past 3 years of WAR totals are nearly the same as Hosmer’s. Do any of you pundits care to explain? How many gold gloves does Harper have? Will he win any in the future? Hosmer will make 13 mil in 2023 while Harper will make probably 35+ mil. And they both will put up nearly identical WAR totals for the next 4-5 years. Is Harper a clubhouse guy? Is Hosmer? Does this matter? Dont reply to me, just ask yourself these questions.
Samuel
lol
Harper is a media darling. Carlos Santana is a media darling. Both are me-first players that go into funks and need to be bucked up by teammates and put in cocoons by their management.
Hosmer is a terrific, consistent team player – showing up each day to do what he can at bat, on the bases, and in the field to help his ream win. He helps mentor younger teammates and bucks up those going bad. The media look at numbers and state that Hosmer is overrated, overpaid and fools gold.
I’ve never understood the media accepting the contract Santana got for around $20m AAV till he’s 33, but condemning Hosmer getting about the same AAV till he’s 33. Sure, Hosmer’s contract runs longer, but salaries continue to go up at an astronomical rate each year – meaning there is a good chance Hosmer will be right in line salary-wise his last 2-3 years,
To me Santana and Hosmer would be handsomely paid @ $13-15m; Harper @ $20 because he’s a draw. But Harper will get his $35-40 AAV, and if he’s alive and kicking he’ll opt out in 3-4 years because he’ll be worth at least 25-30% more as the new broadcast and gambling revenues begin to come in.
juicemane
Why are there not more commentators like Sam here?
Swinging Friars
Hype
Fuck Me Bitch
Kepler has 6.9 bWAR in 3 years and he is only 25 years old. The Twins would be foolish to deal a valuable player not yet in his prime. He may not become a superstar but if he gives a bWAR of 3 (or more) every year going forward he would be a valuable piece on a winning team.
You build a team around well-rounded young players like Kepler!
twins33
Agreed
manos
I can see the Mariners flipping Haniger, Seager and Leake to the Padres for Jankowski and Erlin just because that’s a Dipoto move.
24TheKid
How is that at all a Dipoto move?
Msteele
Mitch Hang me and Bang me is staying put. Can everyone please stop slobbering over a fella just because he has years of control. Stay out west where no one will watch you.
elmore80
Teheran and Allard for Domingo Santana would be good but the Braves should work out something with the D-Backs. One stop shopping. With what we save from signing a FA OF we get 2 arb yrs of Peralta and some money to pay Greinke. I think he has alot left and he’d be great with our young guys.
Syndergaarden Cop
“Heyman suggests that any of Ryon Healy, Carlos Santana, Jay Bruce, Anthony Swarzak or Mike Leake could be the next to go…”
So basically, M’s are done trading, got it.
gmantacoma
Seager should be next.