The market for star Marlins catcher J.T. Realmuto seems to be reaching a fever pitch, with the Astros, Yankees, Dodgers, Mets and Giants among the latest teams to “show interest,” says Fancred’s Jon Heyman. The odds of an extension for the backstop seem infinitesimal at this juncture, with sources “suggesting” that the proposed figure was in range of the massive extension signed by Giants catcher Buster Posey prior to the start of the 2013 season. Whether or not the ask was mere posturing on the part of Realmuto, whose agent Jeff Berry seemed to make clear the 27-year-old’s intentions on a radio show in late October, is unknown, but it seems a near certainty the Oklahoma-born product will be moved at some point this offseason.
In other news from around the region . . .
- Per Heyman, the Yankees seem to be willing to include Gary Sanchez in a deal for Realmuto, but only in something approximating a straight-up swap. Sanchez, who has four remaining years of team control to Realmuto’s two, has turned off some admirers with his indifferent play behind the plate and propensity for the long slump, but is nevertheless an extremely valuable asset in today’s desiccated offensive landscape behind the dish. Indeed, Steamer actually projects the 26-year-old Sanchez to be nearly as valuable next season as the elder Realmuto (3.5 WAR, to the latter’s 3.7), pegging him for a 116 wRC+ to Realmuto’s 108. It should be noted, too, that analytical models are far more bullish on Sanchez’s much-maligned defense than the general public: DRS, after all, sees Sanchez as clearly superior to the Marlin star over the last three seasons, while Baseball Prospectus, though higher on Realmuto, mostly agrees, seeing the Dominican-born backstop as generally above-average over the same frame. The Marlins, though, seem to find the package insufficient without other “top pieces” involved, which scenario would almost surely be a non-starter for the Bombers.
- Outfielder Nick Markakis “remains a candidate” to return to Atlanta, and is a “more likely fit” than Michael Brantley, per Heyman. Markakis, a Georgia native, enjoyed a blissful ’18 renaissance in the last year of his 4 year, $44MM deal signed prior the 2015 season, slashing .297/.366/.440 in hitter-friendly SunTrust Park on the way to 2.6 fWAR, his first two-win-plus season with the Braves. Atlanta, of course, continues its search for offensive upgrades even after the inking of Josh Donaldson to a one-year deal, but doesn’t see outfielder A.J. Pollock as a likely target, according to Heyman. The 35-year-old Markakis, though, had posted five consecutive sub-.400 slugging percentage seasons before the last, and has never been a particularly nimble defender in a corner. Atlanta, at this point in the offseason, may be setting its sights a little higher in its dogged pursuit of an outfielder.
- Per Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times, the Rays are “considering high-end upgrades” across the diamond. Topkin lists Noah Syndergaard, Paul Goldschmidt, and Nelson Cruz, among others, as potential options, and notes that the team’s monetary resources far outshine those of past seasons. The Rays, perhaps more than any other team, are rife with young talent, with logjams up the middle and on the corners, and have considerable prospect capital with which to deal, so multiple major upgrades cannot, at this point in the offseason, be ruled out.
Yanks2
Cashman said himself that Sanchez isn’t available at all so I’m confused
jdgoat
That was probably before he realized he could get the best catcher in the game if he’s a part of the deal.
Yanks2
Pretty sure Cashman even said Gary isn’t available even in a deal for Realmuto
yukongold
He also said they were out on Teixeira.
national pastime
I hope you’re right and we get Harper.
gotothevideotape
Cashman loves to throw off
everyone, he does it all the time, every year, lol, but who cares if he brings us the best right??
John 29
Sanchez has a far higher upside with the bat than Realmuto could ever imagine. His first full year in the league was better than anything Realmuto has ever or will ever put up. Live on his stats from last season if you want, but we all know that was an aberration caused by injuries. He’ll prove it next season when you’re nowhere to be found.
jdgoat
Let’s just say that Sanchez’s normal numbers are 2016 form, I don’t think there’s many people who take that over Realmuto. The upgrade in the bat doesn’t outweigh the upgrade Realmuto brings on the field. And I’m not going to act like I know what Sanchez’s bat really is, but you can’t just throw out his bad numbers based off of half a seasons worth.
John 29
In 2016 Sanchez was one of the hottest players in baseball and it was his first taste of the league. The following season I don’t think there was a catcher in baseball that put up the numbers he did…I would have to look it up, but I’m pretty certain there was no one. Last year went wrong for him, but I think that most people realize that it doesn’t accurately represent the hitter that he is at all. Realmuto might be better behind the plate, but his bat will never come close. There’s really no point in arguing over hypotheticals, let’s just watch what happens.
Jeff Zanghi
I agree… I’m a die hard Red Sox fan and hate the Yankees wholeheartedly but I’m baffled by the possibility that they’d be willing to deal Sanchez for Realmuto — i’m even more baffled that if they were willing to do that, that the Marlins would then demand more.
Sanchez is younger and one of the few (possibly the only) young catcher capable of being the centerpiece of a team’s lineup for 4+ years to come. His defense is pretty bad at times — but his offense is unrivaled at times too and to me (even hating the Yankees as much as I do) I just really don’t see much, if any value in trading Sanchez for Realmuto. I think Realmuto is overrated offensively and Sanchez (as much fun as it was to watch him hit .200 last year and struggle) is a massive threat in any lineup – 2018 was an outlier as far as his offense goes. He’s a .275+ 30+ HR guy who’s 2 years younger (and 2 more years of control) than Realmuto — I just don’t see how this trade benefits the Yankees. Unless they REALLY have given up on Sanchez’s defense/ability to manage a staff… then I suppose you’re left with little choice but to move on from Sanchez behind the dish. Even then though… he’d instantly become one of the best offensive 1B/DH’s in baseball so I’m just not sure I see this being a good move either way for NY.
yanks02026
Man you’re on a streak today of being wrong.. If Sanchez puts up his 2016/2017 numbers, 90% of teams in baseball would take Sanchez over JT..
Balk
Sanchez sucks behind the dish. He may have a bat, but a lot of work to do defensively
ncaachampillini
Incorrect. Take blinders off for a moment. Trading Sanchez for JT should only make you happy. Who cares if it’s one of your home grown guys you lose. If in a trade you come away with the better player then your team made out.
KnicksFanCavsFan
As mentioned, his overall defense is a lot better than most fans represent. Clearly… Clearly… He needs to focus on blocking more so than ever but he’s been good to above average in most other aspects of catching. Put on top of that, what he’s done with the bat he deserves a chance to redeem himself next season. But as of 2018 JT is the better catcher on Parker. I imagine Cash would listen to every scenario regarding every player just for due diligence sake but I don’t think he’s going to make it obvious like he HS with Gray.
steelerbravenation
Sanchez arm and ability to control the run game out weighs Realmuto’s abilities. Sanchez is catching a bad rap this year he obviously to me carried injuries he could not shake and effected his ability to play the field and I believe at bat as well. All season all you heard was about his groin then immediately after the season he had to go for shoulder surgery. Surgery on his glove hand to me effecting his ability to turn his hand on the ball. You don’t give up on a talent like Sanchez and the mistakes he made were mistakes that somebody with his experience would never make as consistently as he did.
And it’s not like anybody ever questioned his work ethic in getting better. I just think it was a lost season and he played in quick sand. He will bounce back.
John 29
I respect and appreciate you saying all of that as a Sox fan. Sanchez is still a kid and his game has not finished growing yet. I don’t know how much his defensive game is going to improve or if he’s destined to move to another position or not, but the kid can rake. If he has another season like the last I’ll be the first to say that I was wrong, but I don’t think we’re going to see that happen.
Melchez
I see where Yankee fans get these terrible trade ideas…. from their front office. If the Marlins wanted a terrible defensive catcher that could hit .190, they could sign Gattis.
rocky7
Yeh, except when he fails to block a pitch that loses a game in the World Series!.
He’s consistently bad behind the plate and that is as much of a consideration as his bat!
luclusciano
JD – they are also 2017 numbers. And analysts do predict them to be about the same. You seem to be judging Sanchez only off of 2018
deweybelongsinthehall
Big if however. His offense might be explainable by his shoulder and a sophomore jinx but his inability to stop a ball in the dirt and reluctance to listen when Girardi a former catcher was manager remain alarming.
WestCoastSoxFan
Catcher, Shortstop and CF are always considered the most important positions to have good defense(at least they WERE…I’m not sure what the analytics dorks would say now). Having a butcher behind the plate doesn’t seem to be the answer for the Yankees. I’m guessing Sanchez finds his way to 1B after 2019 if his glove is still horrendous.
WestCoastSoxFan
Not sure how true it is, but I heard several times last year that Girardi was able to keep Sanchez in line and keep him focused. Boone was not able to do the same. If that’s true, Sanchez is going to remain a problem.
steelerbravenation
Sanchez problem defensively is he always wants to be in a position to throw the ball after a pitch. So when a ball goes into the dirt he tend to try & back hand it so he can come up throwing the ball instead of just worrying about blocking the ball. I don’t believe it’s a case of being lazy I think it’s more a case of him knowing he has that cannon for an arm and he wants to use it. Kinda like a blazing fast WR who worries bout the run after a catch before actually catching the ball. Also the groin injury he played thru all year could have played a factor in his ability to try and block balls.
Sanchez is going to be a star and the impatient spoiled Yankee fans need to get off his back. The $300 million dollar man not hitting in any clutch situations last year or Severino’s tipping pitches & Judge’s injury were all problems. 1 bad year and you are ready to send this kid down the river. It’s all good send him down to ATL would have no problem living thru his issues down here
matt4baseball
Sanchez sucks. Put him on 1 base and maybe this is a more lucid blog..
Duke Carrell
Jeff Z-Absolutely agree. Sanchez is such an offensive threat, he may eventually be moved from behind the plate anyway. I would rather see them keep Gary, get a decent backstop and use Sanchez at DH/1st. No way in hell I trade that bat. Same with Andujar. Not trading that bat unless it returns an ace. JT would be a two year rental at best, he is not worth the contract it would take to extend him.
tonydepalma
He first doesn’t count anymore he’s a has been and worst catcher in the game. I’m heartened that he’s gonna go. Yankees can’t win a title with him catching
SirCheeto1
Realmuto’s not the best catcher in the game
joepanikatthedisco
Until 2018 it was Posey.
kgmkpmrgkmegrkmegrm
Where’s he gonna play if they get Realmuto? You gonna send him to AAA?
emac22
Sanchez and Realmoto can split DH and Catcher leaving both healthy and rested for the playoffs as well as providing great depth and the riskiest position.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Does he have a drinking problem?
stansfield123
Heyman’s made up sources say otherwise.
WestCoastSoxFan
Cashman probably realizes what we all do: Sanchez is a horrible catcher.
gotothevideotape
And Cashman explores every
which way he can
petrie000
Rule no.1 of baseball : the front office lies.
Not talking about Cashman specifically, just a universal truth.
JKB 2
Why is it confusing. What is he supposed to do? Announce he wants to dump him?
pinstripes17
They already have the best offensive catcher in baseball when healthy, this trade would be an absolute steal for Miami if it happened. (which it won’t)
bigwestbaseball
Get rid of Sanchez no matter what. He is LAZY and disrespected every Yankee fan. His hitting was horrible and has long slumps. So what he hit a couple of HR against Boston. He is a spoiled, lazy brat. In memory of Thurman Munson, trade him!!!!!
justin-turner overdrive
ugh, you guys are the worst fans ever
arenado28
I completely agree I wouldn’t want Sanchez on my team
dbacksfan22
Some people are so negative on Gary. He has a strong arm, his BABIP was extremely low last year, so his batting avg is likely to go up a good amount, and his power is amazing. Also he’s a good framer, just needs to work on blocking balls better.
dobsonel
His BABIP will always be low because of the way he plays. He is slow and doesn’t hustle which means he never gets infield singles. Plus he tries to pull EVERYTHING which means he will always be victim to the shift. The BABIP stat for hitters is completely misunderstood and ofter misinterpreted, especially on this forum. BABIPs vary between athletes based on a lot more factors than luck alone.
Priggs89
I couldn’t agree more. Saying somebody is lucky/unlucky based solely on BABIP is such a lazy argument that gets brought up WAY too frequently.
bravesfan88
Correct, I couldn’t agree more. That’s like everyone saying Camargo was nothing more than a mediocre, bench player, and he was going to “come back down to Earth” this season, because last year his success was mostly driven from a high BABIP. WELL, he quickly proved everyone wrong, and had an outstanding 2018 season for himself..
It’s a similar argument for FIP and xFIP…Certain pitchers have solid ERA’s, and consistently outperform these stats, because they pitch a certain way like Quintana, Teheran, etc.
Regardless whether one agrees or disagrees, the facts are it takes multiple stats/adv. stats to truly gauge a players overall effectiveness..
You have to truly understand what and how each stat measures, and understand how a player’s style relates to and effects those advanced stats..Then and ONLY THEN can you truly understand..Otherwise, you’re always only going to get a partial picture. That’s why it is so easy for analysts and fans to cherrypick stats when they’re trying to make or break an argument..
KnicksFanCavsFan
Dude that’s pretty harsh. Most young players struggle at points. I think it’s unwise to throw away everything he’s done and just focus on 2018. I think he knows what he needs to do and I would not be surprised if he’s embarrassed and inspired to have a much better 2019. The fact that he played with a injury we didn’t know about that he recently had surgery on (arm or shoulder related if I remember correctly) may have been part of the reason, along with his hamstring that he came back to soon from, that could be the cause of his shortcomings.
stansfield123
Only downside of being a Yankee fan: have to deal with other Yankee fans.
steelerbravenation
How was he lazy exactly because he had a pulled groin and had a hard time running down a passed ball ? He went on the DL right after that game and didn’t make it back for a long time after he was eligible to. I mean I don’t know to me it was obvious he was hurt and was trying his best to play thru his injuries.
After that terrible game catching Severino with all the passed balls Severino came out and said he crossed up the signs on Sanchez because he was going to the signs Romine would use.
Fact of the matter is every pitcher on the Yankees staff with the exception of Tanaka had a better ERA with Sanchez catching than Romine up until last year.
When does some of the blame fall on the manager for not taking him out and saying get healthy your hurting the team and yourself. Boone is a fool. He hung that kid out to dry with all Yankee fans last year.
baseballpun
Giants? Really?
imgman09
Buster may not be ready for Full Time duty because of his surgery and Realmuto can play 1st
Lou$
Yea… Cashman is not that dumb so I’m pretty sure this “Sanchez for Realmuto” crap is just a rumor started by the Marlins to jack up the price.
justin-turner overdrive
Sanchez, Andujar and Florial for Realmuto = fair value
Sanchez can’t catch and Andujar is a LF. So an everyday 1B and LF and a teams #1 prospect is spot on value for the #1 C in the game.
willwill
Rofl.
Perksy
That is an awful deal, would never do that. A package of those 3 should get you someone more like Kluber.
Lou$
That’s a significant overpay for a guy like Kluber, even in the context of the Sale deal a few years ago. When you compare it to the Paxton deal, albeit a less valuable pitcher, the Yankees would be crazy to entertain that. 23 yr old ROY runner up and the 2nd best offensive catcher in the game (who btw is 26), PLUS the teams best prospect? Add Bauer and we can talk.
Old User Name
You for an unwashed jock = fair value
Phil T
I love the fact that you are such a comedian…don’t quit your day job for an mlb job as a talent evaluater.
Lou$
It’s almost like you didn’t even read the comparison in the article…
thegreatcerealfamine
You just showed again how you know nothing about the Yankees “Andujar is a LF”. You also called Yankees fans the “worst fans ever”, yet here you are trolling as usual. At least the Yankees have enough fans to exceed 10,000 a night, not like A’s fans who can’t reach that number in that sewer trap in Oakland. Keep on dreaming of a new stadium young man while your garbage ownership moves the team to Vegas.
yanks02026
Justin Turner had the nerve last week to say he’s not a troll.. Yet once again he’s showing that he is a troll.
yukongold
Someday you Yankees fans will realize this website isn’t yankeestraderumors. This isn’t a home for Yankees fans, its one for baseball fans. How can he be trolling if this is a baseball site? Or does trolling mean “my feelings are hurt?”
Slevin
Says one of the usual suspects…
Balk
You got that right yukongold. 90% of all down votes(if you cared) are by the Yankeestraderumors fan. Every year they cry about something. Shoot med head slevin is the worst, he has no input just random hate posts about anyone’s team. Lol
KnicksFanCavsFan
Trolling means saying outlandish things like Sanchez can’t catch and Andujar is a LF. Both statements are wrong and NOT the thoughts of a legit fan of the game.
Slevin
Like “the Giants are gonna sign Harper”.
gotothevideotape
omg, you are killing. roflmao
Priggs89
I mean, he’s probably closer to being a good LF than 3B… He probably should’ve said Andujar is a DH.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Where IS baseball1600 anyway?
Bald Vinny
He practically is a left fielder. All those balls that he barely touches are balls that every other 3rd baseman gets to. He has to trot out in left to get the ball.
Slevin
It’s Balk’s week to use the homes data plan.
User 4245925809
Let’s not forget Charlie O’s A’s played there the place has been around so long and has since the team moved from Kansas City. Not an iconic structure either, such as Wrigley, LA, or Fenway.. simply an eyesore screaming for a wrecking ball.
Let me ask you something regarding pitching Cereal.. What do you think of NY picking up Kluber?
thegreatcerealfamine
I’m wary of the cost for a 33 old pitcher. It would probably start with a Torres and a top five prospect or two, but if it cost Andujar and say a top prospect or two than yea. I’m afraid they would definitely go sign Machado after that, you’d almost have to. Kluber would definitely make their rotation special as a true number one, and Corbin would be an after thought. Just that realistic price to pay though.
driftcat28 2
@JustinTurner it’s too early to be drinking man. Put the bottle down
Mjm117
Sanchez, Andújar and Florial would be ideal but way too much.
Personally I’d prefer Abreu over Florial plus Sanchez.
WestCoastSoxFan
4 years of Sanchez for 2 years of J.T. isn’t a bad deal. Unfortunately, the Marlins aren’t willing to pay Sanchez, either. They want guys that make nothing.
Mjm117
Who says Marlins wouldnt pay Sanchez ?
Harry pness
Marlins will say no to this lopsided deal
KnicksFanCavsFan
You’re insanely wrong.
pinstripes17
LMAO @ JTO – just admit it, you are a biased clown who hates the Yankees.
Old User Name
Pinstripe.. he’s just a sad As fan. Hating the Yankees is all he has.
tealmarlin
I would like to see JT in LA, give Miami Verdugo and some other prospect, would like to see Puig win it all with LA.
jorge78
The Rays spending money?
It is the end times…..
MetsYankeesRedSox
Now batting clean up….
Jesus H Christ
walls17
Short term contracts
bobtillman
They may have to spend some dollars to satisfy the powers that be. The Big Boys are just tired of lining Stuie’s pockets, while he cries that he’s lost money, a claim that award winning economist Andrew Zimmerman calls the ‘Watergate of MLB”. Meanwhile, the MLBPA still has the threat of suit hanging over MLB’s head, that would force the Rays and others to open their books.
A new stadium and some additional spending may keep Stuie in Tampa….otherwise he goes the way of previous owner Vinnie.
By conservative estimates, they actually should have about 50M to spend. Let’s see how far they go.
Thekidnapper
I could see it this year only as a show of goodwill to the city for a stadium deal.
bobtillman
Agree completely. MLB wants desperately to expand and realign; neither is possible with Tampa and Oakland. MLB has already taken away Revenue Sharing from the A’s, though that decision can be revisited if they get moving on a stadium (apparently they have). The Rays are in the same boat, and, plain and simple, they will lose REAL dollars without Revenue sharing; Stu will have to borrow to stay afloat, which will decrease the value at the inevitable time of sale.
It may be more survival than goodwill. And it works for Stu. With realignment, whichever way they draw it up, he gets out of the AL East. Lower revenues vis a vis the Sox and Spanks (and the Jays and O’s actually) are FAR from the Rays’ only problem; but it’s a significant one.
matt4baseball
I agree, it’s time for owners to open their books since they have been less than truthful on almost every issue. The owners have a special tax exemption no other sport or business has, they owe it to the fans to show that they are making a minimum of 150% net profit that economists who worked for the smaller franchises say. They do have a absolute right to make money but not at the expense of the game itself and the players fans come to see and the young players who are basically not paid at all. Remember the time rich owners bought teams for a tax deduction? As for my Rays, I suggest we pay for a higher MLB approved roof at the Trop with no new taxes put on us residents and play ball.
bobtillman
Oh you’re gonna pay for a new park. Stu will buy all new popcorn machines, and claim they’re “necessary infrastructure”….happens all the time.
I hope Stuie looks around, sees he has some really exciting young talent, a good manager, and a brilliant pitching coach, and opens his wallet to make a run at the Wild Card. They’re a few miles from the Sox, but they can run at the Yankees. The opportunity is there NOW.
But my sense is that they’ll go cheap, live with the almost inevitable regression of Snell, Wendle, et al, and claim, once again, they’re playing for “tomorow”, a tomorow we know never comes. That’s unless MLB forces the issue, which I think is possible. Rays fans have to realize that the Rays have to do what the “Lords” tell them to do; it’s the price they have to pay for all that free money they get.
MLB wants the TB area, for the TV consequences, if nothing else. Now whether Stu gets to keep them is the real issue. They ran Vinnie out of town, and he had built a system that rivals what the Rays have now. But he never made the next step. Neither so far has Stu. Teams doth not live by farm systems alone. It’s a piece of the puzzle, but not the only one.
matt4baseball
I sadly agree. For Tampa to thrive Stu needs to raise the budget. Last year our front office caught lightning in a bottle! Tampa has only 29 days left to get financing for the stadium and the larger Tampa Corporations are dragging their feet! Stu your most reliable partner was always St Pete!
justin-turner overdrive
lmao what on earth could the Giants possibly offer for Realmuto?
bencole
Yeah good point there’s not much
Houston We Have A Solution
What could they offer? Joey Bart and Heliot Ramos.
What should they offer? Nothing. They need to rebuild.
bigkempin
They have Bart and Ramos but other than those 2 the farm is slim pickings. Drod has solid trade value but I doubt SF lets him go. SF could make a very competitive offer but I doubt it happens.
arc89
Its Ramos that who the Marlins want. So they will trade their #1 prospect to finish middle of the pack. makes no sense.
Daver520
@Ty Bradley … “infinitesimal”? We don’t have time to look up words in the middle of an article dude
Priggs89
5 people clearly can’t take a joke…
Samuel
I liked “desiccated”.
Mr. Bradley joins Mr. Todd and Mr. Adams in bringing literacy to baseball journalism. Not sure I’ve seen this since Wells Twombly unexpectedly passed away in his early 40’s. It’s refreshing, enjoyable, and fun.
I often disagree with the writers here. Their dogged insistence that statistics accurately value a player and that the GM that puts together the most impressive spreadsheet is the winner frustrates me. However, we all perceive things through our own lens, which is always being refined. Like most disciplines, professional baseball is both an art and a science. All GM’s are now graduates from impressive colleges. They’re trained to see the scientific part. Slowly most journalism about the sport has migrated that way.
After leaving office, President Harry Truman famously said that he unsuccessfully searched for a “one handed economist”. When asked to explain, he said that whenever he saw trouble with the economy, he asked his aides to bring in the most respected economist in the country. When meeting with them the first thing he asked was – “What’ve I got?”‘. To which the economist would inevitably respond – “Well Harry, on the one hand…….”.
MLB is reflective of our society. As with the government, it has been taken over by people schooled in primarily elite colleges. They don’t start at the bottom learning their profession and working their way up. Rather they report to management when hired, sometimes visiting the production facilities, but mostly doing research on numbers, watching videos, and going to seminars and talks. They are part of the process to determine the status of people in the professions. The game for the employees is to find what criteria is being written into the search queries, and pad those numbers (tip of the hat to Carlos Santana).
It’s stunning to me how little Americans understand the sport of baseball. They don’t play it. Players are brought in from other countries – primarily Latin American countries – where people love the sport and play it sunup to sundown. Most Americans don’t watch the games. Rather, they watch highlights on an electronic device, and check the numbers. TV ratings for the playoff’s and World Series primarily come from the markets whose teams are participants.
You reap what you sow.
It’s all about the numbers. Fantasy baseball and legalized betting is what baseball’s about in America today. What artistry there is in the game is not understood, ignored, and ridiculed.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Comment too long. I can’t stay awake to read it all.
bobtillman
Brilliantly conceived and written. People tend to forget how far in the toilet MLB was at the turn of this century. Franchise value was falling; “retraction” was in the air. Then Fantasy Baseball came along, and the sport has seen an increase in “the brand” almost unparalleled since Pete Rozelle almost singlehandedly made the NFL substantive 70 years ago.
And you can’t convince people otherwise. It doesn’t matter that teams like the Red Sox, Giants, Royals , three teams that pay scant attention to metric analysis, have been so successful this decade. This isn’t to say metrics don’t have value. Of course they do. OBP is a better measure than BA; but Branch Rickey knew that 80 years ago. Launch angle IS important; Earl Weaver talked about it frequently….70 years ago.
The basic flaw of course is that you have to buy into the notion that a pitch thrown (or at bat) in September at the Trop, in a meaningless game in front of 10,000 (to be generous) sleeping fans is the same event as either taken in front of 40,000 screaming lunatics at Fenway in the midst of a pennant race. Or that a player approaches a game the same way when his contract is expiring as he does when his money is guaranteed for 4 years. In that sense, 10-pin bowling is just like candlepin bowling….but it isn’t.
Now that MGM is involved, the brand has a new source; there was concern that the Golden Age might be over, but now it appears that it might not be the case. Sure, teams will pay lip service to “no gambling”, just like many love to hire 20 stats-guys (and pay them peanuts), and fans will fawn over both. But both are rather silly, and ownership knows it.
Again, not to deride metrics; they clearly increase our knowledge of the game. But metrics are results, not causes. And they may be a result of many, many unchartered events. It’s identifying the WHY stats happen that separates the brighter organizations from the not-so-bright ones.
But again, Bill Veck said “It’s crucial to understand the world where the statistic happened”…and that was 80 years ago.
steelerbravenation
Brilliantly put !!!!!
Rebuild it
Hopefully the Braves find an upgrade over Kakes. I still dont see them getting their “ace” so theyll have to outscore teams a lot of games
Houston We Have A Solution
Lol Yankees only interested if it’s a straight up swap of realmuto for Gary Sanchez?
Idk what the world record is for fastest hangup on a phone call but Cashman helped set a new world record if that’s what he seriously thinks will get a realmuto trade done.
Old User Name
So much for all the Jeter looking out for his old team complaints last year.
bigkempin
Well considering Jeter traded Stanton for a sack of marbles….the complaints were legit. Jeter got next to nothing for Stanton, Ozuna, Yelich, and Gordon. Now he’s trying to make up for it with Realmuto.
driftcat28 2
$300 M is a sack of marbles?
thegreatcerealfamine
Let trolls like this guy talk out of the other side of their mouth. Everyone knows how beneficial unloading that contract was for the Marlins.
Mjm117
bigkempin, with out a doubt, enlightened us with an absolutely 100% ignorant opinion. Way to go!
Fortunately facts state otherwise.
bigkempin
I think you missed the whole part of MIA sending trash prospects to NY for Stanton. They traded an MVP for low level prospects and salary relief. Yes…..MIA got back a sack of marbles for Stanton. What did MIA do with that “salary” relief? They slashed payroll even more.
bigkempin
Why don’t you enlighten us on which prospects that MIA got back have looked even half decent?
Houston We Have A Solution
Sandy Alcantara looked great last year in triple AAA and 6 starts with the Marlins- ozuna trade
Nick Neidert had a solid year at AA so did dugger- Gordon trade.
Despite his struggles defensively castro is a legit hitter and could net a decent prospect.
Jordan Yamamoto looked like an unstoppable force last year posting insane numbers for minors- yelich trade.
Marlins make Jorge Guzman a reliever he could become the next Craig Kimbrel with that high octane fastball and above average slider.
WestCoastSoxFan
Beneficial if you want to see ownership line their pockets with cash. It certainly wasn’t beneficial for the fans or the franchise itself.
JKB 2
Bigkempin GM’s trade contracts not bubble game cards. Jeter dumped a $300+ million dollar albatros contract. How do you not understand that? Seriously? You think the Yanks take on all that money and the Marlins get back top prospects too? How do fans like you not get it?
JKB 2
What the Marlins did with the salary relief is irrelevant. The money part is what they wanted and it was huge!
Lou$
See this is why it would be stupid to trade Sanchez after his worst statistical season. You wouldn’t be saying that if it was after last season when Sanchez had 30 hrs and 90 rbis. Honestly, baseball fans are so recency biased.
KnicksFanCavsFan
Dude…. Even with him having an incredibly underwhelming year for his ability, he still ranked 16th overall in WAR for all catchers with at least 200 PA. Despite his defensive struggles he still was valued at a +6.3 DEF WAR which ranked 16th vs JT who was ranked 12th at 7.8, just a mere 2.5 better than what you call the worst catcher in baseball. He has a ridiculous high upside, is cheap and had 4 years of control. It’s his responsibly to redeem himself. Let’s see. But this notion that JT is worth both Sanchez and Andujar plus more is crazy.
Furthermore, since his debut in August/September 2016 to now he’s ranked 4th in WAR among all catchers despite not being called up unto the end of 201 and having a forgettable 2018. That’s says it all. Cashman will listen, dip his toes but he is not stupid and will not sell low on Sanchez.
matt4baseball
Wow, That Sanchez has some good stats? The Yanks should never trade him since he sounds like the next johnny bench! Please explain why he’s in every trade scenario Cash creates?
bigkempin
LA should try an offer of Ruiz, May, and Joc or Puig. I’m sure MIA would ask for more but I think that’s a fair starting point. Personally I think Puig is one of the few players who would actually be interested in signing long term in MIA.
Houston We Have A Solution
Swap out joc or puig for verdugo. Realmuto to the Dodgers starts with verdugo.
Miami has no use for a platoon OF in joc and 1 year of Puig.
bigkempin
That’s why I said it was just a starting proposal I also stated that MIA would likely ask for more.. Swap out May and putting in Verdugo is fair. I put in Puig because like I stated…he seems like a guy who would be interested in an extension. Joc is a cheap platoon guy with 25 HR pop and plays solid D. Nearly every team in the league utilizes platoons in the OF and Joc is ideal against RHP.
Houston We Have A Solution
Miami has no use for a platoon OF.
I didnt say he was useless. I said miami- a rebuilding club- has no use for him, esp with 2 years before free agency.
Cleveland- Mariners- etc. theyd be good fits for Joc.
Not rebuilding clubs.
Knowthemarket
Miami might be interested in prospects. They aren’t that far into their rebuild.
RBI
Yeah, they are. Marlins have zero players in MLB’s top 100 prospects —- see MLB.com 2018 Prospect Watch. That is the very definition of a team with a long rebuild ahead.
kster224488k
Bring back Markakis…pretty simple..the Braves aren’t gonna spend crap on anybody else..they spent most of their funds on a broken third baseman that AA still has a crush on that was unneeded.we should’ve went after Corbin and Pollack..I’m OK with the McCann signing, otherwise..AA better flip Fried, Gohara and Waters or other of our billion prospects for a TOR SP asap…not Bumgarner
Knowthemarket
So you think Donaldson is broken despite looking like he was back in form. Your answer is he should have gone after Pollock who is injured every year. Your preferences don’t seem very consistent.
As for Corbin I don’t know that anyone outside the Northeast had a chance at him.
bigkempin
So the Braves spent money on a broken 3B so you advocate spending money on broken OF and a former TJS P who has had a few good seasons…..OK……
steelerbravenation
Yeah and the CF which is a position the Braves don’t need is not as broken down if not more than Donaldson ?
brave from the woods
If the Braves are serious, they need to move on from Nick.
NL_East_Rivalry
He may be willing to come back on a one year deal if his market doesn’t develop. He should convince someone to give him a few years though
southi
Don’t get me wrong, because I think Markakis did what he was expected to do during his Atlanta tenure, but the Braves need to find a better option.
RBI
Markakis only won a Silver Slugger award and the Gold Glove… no player currently available can say that!
steelerbravenation
Can’t believe the lack of love for Markakis. He was clearly the leader who went out and played everyday and did everything asked of him and more. Markakis skill set is probably the farthest thing from a cleanup hitter you could get but yet here he was the professional he is not complaining and doin what he had to.
With Donaldson there Kakes can move into the 2 hole where his skill set can thrive. With Camargo moving to a utility role it can afford the Braves some time off here and there tonan aging Markakis and he more than likely would come back on a contract that would allow Pache to slide in as he slides out. Once I heard that Markakis told John Hart he would kick his ass if he ever heard him talk to Snitker the way he did in front of everybody. Made me appreciate him more. He plays the game the right way and these young kids need examples of that. Say what you want bout who the best player was star wise and blah blah blah but Markakis was the leader of that team. And the young kids respected and love him. You need that quality in the clubhouse as well.
SRolen
When the Mariners are done with the Mets the Braves should go for a blockbuster of four of their best pitching prospects for Jean Segura and Mitch Haniger. That would fix the Braves lineup.
Rebuild it
Swap in pache for a pitching prospect. Acuna and haniger would control the of for several years. Add Dansby into the package also. Still cant figure out which tor guy theyre hoping to get
Rebuild it
Although
Segura
Acuna
Freeman
Donaldson
Haniger
Albies
Flowers
Inciarte
Does look quite nice
Houston We Have A Solution
Segura and Haniger will cost the Braves Wright, Anderson, Riley, Pache, Contreras and Swanson to replace Segura- easily what it would take for Seattle to part with them.
angler
lol … how about in addition to all those names the Braves send over $30M to cover part of Cano’s contract as well? Pretty hefty price and I see this as a RF trade only. Braves are fine in infield. I’d say pick 2 of the above not named Riley or Swanson. Markakis is on speed dial with Pache not far off. Maybe the Mets, Nats or Phillies will play ball.
slider32
Sanchez would trump any prospects for me.
User 4245925809
Sanchez isn’t exactly at the top of his worth Atm. It would take him and more to get someone like Ralmutto. Why think Cashman should just look to 2019 with Sanchez and hope Sanchez pulls his head out of his rear for the oncoming season and focuses more on the game and rehabbing prior injuries. He’s going to be needed. Trade value is little.
SirCheeto1
You’re a moron if you think Sanchez has low trade value. Every team would be interested in him if he were actually available. A catcher with 40 HR potential is non existent in baseball today. Plus 4 years of cheap control. He had an off season and was still one of the best offensive can catcher’s in the game. His bat is a game changing one.
thegreatcerealfamine
John is no moron, and no every team is not clamoring to get Sanchez. His value is at its lowest. I’m a Yankee fan bro and watch the games, How about yuz?
SirCheeto1
Yuz not even worth responding to beyond this comment. Stick to watching baseball on your couch, junior.
Slevin
Did you sleep through 2018 sandy?
KnicksFanCavsFan
His TRADE VALUE is low in that you can still get value for him but not as much as if he didn’t have the 2018 he had. That’s why Cashman imo, isn’t going to sell low on him.
thegreatcerealfamine
John, Would I love to have Realmuto, most definitely. Do I think the Yankees are gonna ride Sanchez for at least one more year, yes. You’re definitely right on Sanchez needing to pull his head out.
User 4245925809
Yankee offense is so terrific I just don’t see the need of why they would be tied to him realistically anyway. It’s more than like a cursory check-in between Cash-jeter and the rest hyperbole between bored writers is my 2C Cereal.
NY has a decent offensive catcher, which we both agree on and think NY probably put him on some kind of leg strengthening program after the season ended to work on his hammy from last season. They have a decent defensive 1st guy as a backup regardless.
It does seem the colder the winter gets Cereal, the more nonsensical the posts on the board become and both ur team and mine have some of the bases where the major offenders of this come from… We just have to muddle onwards as the Brits say.
emac22
He doesn’t have to be at his peak for GM’s to realize he has the highest ceiling of any catcher in the game and is top 5 even when he plays poorly.
Don’t talk about trade value when you obviously barely comprehend the topic.
ffrhb14Sox
He wasnt close to top 5 in 2018. He hit less than .200 and led the league in passed balls. He also was hurt and fake hurt and stood out for lack of effort.
slider32
4 years of control sliver, that should make a difference no?
TradeAcuna
They don’t want to get an ace because they are overly attached to prospects.
They don’t want to spend money, so they will go for the cheapest option.
Looks like the Braves are banking on another bad season from the Nats and disappointments from Phillies and Mets for another year.
First round exit here they come!
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Yup. Donaldson was a bargain basement signing.
TradeAcuna
He signed a one year contract. Sure it is a ton of money but they are banking on a guy who has been injury prone in his last few years. This was a good signing in my book, but I wouldn’t really call this an “investment.”
Rebuild it
Who do you suggest they go after? Greinke isnt an ace and is old. Madbums performance is down and is a one year rental. Thor wont be traded in the division. Kluber is probably the best but has lost a couple ticks, asking price is insane (and should be), and it seems theyd rather trade bauer
TradeAcuna
Your points are valid but this team needs a dependable arm in the front if it ever wants to compete. Folty is and likely will never be a top starter. Newcomb needs to be traded before his value goes down. Guasman is a slightly above average pitcher. Teheran needs to go, and finally all the young pitchers are unproven and cannot be dependent upon next season. I like Soroka and Touki more than anyone in the rotation. Trade Wright, Allard, Wilson, whomever.
Sure Kluber may not be the ace he once was, but he is the one guy the Braves need to take a chance on.
I think Greinke will ultimately be traded to the Braves. He fits like a glove.
Rebuild it
Im actually afraid youre right. I think Greinke winds up a brave and thats a bad thing. Even if they pay him 22-24 million per its too much. Hes not an ace by any stretch and is only getting older. Id rather we keep what we have than to add him and his salary for the next 3 years. I just dont see a realistic ace that they might acquire
Old User Name
With some of the pre-arb players playing well above the amount they’re getting paid, Greinke’s contract would be a wash at the $25 million amount.
steelerbravenation
How is Greinke not an ace right now ?
Will he be by the time his contract is up no but by then the young guys will have developed a little bit more as he is declining. Greinke is exactly what the Braves need. Only thing is I don’t see them having enough money to take on that contract or any semblance of it.
Now if they can trade some of the guys making a little bit of money like Teheran, Vizzy & Duvall and get ARZ to eat some of it I can see it happening and hope it will.
hiflew
Realmuto is getting to be very overrated. Yes, he had highest WAR for catchers last season, but that is more a sign of the weakness of the position altogether. Any other position that has a 4.8 WAR is maybe top 10, but definitely not #1. He’s definitely good, but Buster Posey won a league MVP and a ROY and 2 WS titles when he signed his deal, Realmuto is not even close to that level. That should not be his salary comp.
Mjm117
He also obtained this 4.8 WAR on one of the most inept offensive teams. That alone speaks volume.
hiflew
That is meaningless. A 4.8 WAR on a good team and a 4.8 WAR on a bad team is supposed to mean exactly the same thing. Other than Realmuto might look better simply because there is no one around to overshadow him.
steelerbravenation
That’s the problem with you stat geeks and your WAR. Realmuto has nobody hitting behind him to protect him. Has nobody hitting in front of him to pad his stats. He has young pitchers that are inexperienced or he has older pitcher that quite frankly were any good they would probably be playing for a better club.
stan lee the manly
Posey was also on a very good team and had the benefit of national recognition and the media. It may not be fair, but it makes a huge difference for pretty much every award in the sport.
hiflew
Posey also put up a 7.6 WAR season to Realmuto’s 4.8 season. That makes for a huge difference too.
Knowthemarket
Realistic right field options for Atlanta Braves through trade or free agency: Markakis, Pollock, McCutchen and maybe Peralta?
I don’t a lot of my fellow Braves fans are fantasizing about Haniger but he seems ALMOST as unrealistic Harper. The Mariners have no motivation to move him because he is pretty much a freebie in the Mariners rebuild.
Pollock can’t stay away from the DL and because of that he doesn’t seem anymore productive than Markakis because he CAN stay on the field.
My preference for the realistic targets is McCutchen. He is just as dependable as Markakis and also a bit more productive.
inkstainedscribe
I prefer Cutch, too. It may be possible to get both (if the market for Markakis — er — drops to 1 year, $5 mill or so).
You don’t count on Markakis to play RF every day. He’ll give you the D but his offense gets very pedestrian when he starts wearing down.
wackymacky
A case of Heyman going haywire.
Jean Matrac
If Sanchez is close to being as good, or even better than Realmuto, as this article suggests, why would the Yankees want to make that trade?
stan lee the manly
It is crazy to me that J.T. for Sanchez straight up makes sense to some people. The defense at the catchers position paired with the talented bat of Realmuto is what makes him so valuable, not one or the other. It’s easy to have one, but both just doesn’t happen very often; Sanchez isn’t as unique a player as J.T.
emac22
Did you read the article?
stan lee the manly
Did you read the comments?
emac22
From you and the other clowns who didn’t read the article or know anything about baseball and parrot the fools who say he can’t play defense?
I did.
bernbabybern
There is no flipping way Cashman would trade 4 years of Sanchez for 2 of Realmuto. Fake news.
SoCalBrave
If it was a straight one for one, he would. In a New York minute.
bjupton100
Wendle, Kiermaier, plus Roe and palacios for Gore, Margot, Hedges/mejia and Urias/Paddack/Morjeon/Baez. It would have a couple more pieces I’m sure but the Padres could play Wendle (and probably Urias) at SS/2nd and see if they gain a starter or more valuable trade piece, while getting a cheap bounce back candidate in KK. Ray’s get a little more bp/sp depth and a chance at a royals like bp and better sp’s with Snell, Honeywell, etc. Rays also get a rh’ed bounce back of their own in Margot. They could then target Abreu and Machado and still field a team around 70 million.
bobtillman
Wendle, KK, Roe and Palacious wouldn’t get you Hedges by himself, never mind any of the other players you mentioned. And Gore is going nowhere…hard stop. Neither is Paddock. And having just traded for Mike Z., why would they want Hedges?
We still have to see if minor league vagabond Wendle is as good as he looked, or is just a BABIP king. KK’s contract, idiotic when signed, is now a complete disaster. If you want to see how MLB evaluates a KK, see Hamilton, Billy….and KK < Hamilton. Roe and Palacious have no value.
bjupton100
Those two will combine for at least 10 war this year. 80-90 million – 8.5 million. They’re worth the package.
TampaGators
That’s a ridiculous comment. KK’s value is much, much higher than Billy Hamilton. Yes he has had some injuries. However, his career OPS+ is 102 compared to a truly awful 70 for Billy’s career. Billy Hamilton is maybe the most impactful base runner in the league, but you can’t steal first as the saying goes. KK is himself easily a plus baserunner. Billy Hamilton is an impact defender no doubt. Personally I think Kiermaier is one of the two best defensive players in the league (Andrelton Simmons) and the numbers back that up. Hes much more well rounded due to his far superior bat and peerless defense in CF. If he stays healthy he’s a 5 win player minimum with potential for a lot more. That said, the trade the first guy proposed is awful and the Padres would never take it in a million years.
PhilliesFan012
Say Tampa Bay and Az make a trade for Goldy, who would you see going back to Az?
Honeywell? Adames? Bauers?
Any possibility AZ could throw in Peralta?
bjupton100
Bauer’s for Gold and Zach plus 33 million. A couple minor pies to round it out.
raysfan 2
Pass on Greinke unless Arizona eats most of his contract
raysfan 2
Why would the Rays trade Adames or Honeywell for one year of Goldschmidt? and where would the Rays play Peralta? their outfield is Pham Kiermaier and Meadows
PhilliesFan012
If they deem meadows not ready? He didn’t play a lot after they acquired him. And why trade them? Because a lot stupider moves have been made for worse players, goldy is a Phenomenal player who wouldn’t come cheap.
jordsmac26
There is no universe that Adames or Honeywell get traded they aren’t even available and for a rental is this a sick joke? You not the smartest person ever are you?
jordsmac26
Trying to imagine a universe where a 1 year rental is worth a top 20 prospect in baseball or a young stud SS. Obvious you don’t know a lot because that’s absurd. Wouldn’t even pass thru the commish.
They are likely getting 2 50 rated prospects. Maybe Fox and Nate Lowe.
steelerbravenation
When that 1 year rental puts you over the top as a WS contender.
jordsmac26
D backs wont even be asking for a top 20 overall prospect. Asking price is likely late top 100. Gone are the times teams give up top 20 prospects for even lengthy deals. Nobody does it for rentals. Just not how baseball works these days that’s the market we live in.
bobtillman
I can’t see them moving Adames, tho I think they’d like to; since his overall level of play (throwing and base running especially) is fairly atrocious. But the bat plays.
There’s some serious doubt that Bauer will ever reach his “floor”, which was always pretty low anyway (mlb average guy, starts only on poor teams).
And not everybody comes back from TJ. (Honeywell)
I can definitely see the Rays’ interest in Goldy, and Bauers MIGHT be a start, for positional replacement. But I’m not sure where they go from there. The D-backs as we know value defense highly, and few of the Rays prospects have defensive value, so that eliminates the Solaks and Lowes (all three of them) of the world.
jordsmac26
This is the dumbest post I have ever seen in my entire. A 5 year old child would know more about baseball. Honestly never come back because this hurt my head. If I saw you in public I’d laugh at your face.
jordsmac26
I feel ashamed to have read this I might throw up.
Adames actually has a very good arm and had 80% stolen base rate in the minors and rated as one of the Rays best base runners in the minors consistently.
Rays would like to get rid of a guy who was a 2 WAR player in his first 80-90 games in the majors and was their number 1 prospect and is their future.
Bob Tillman – if you had a brain we’d all be in trouble because this post is a total disgrace delete it.
jordsmac26
And very few Rays have defensive value? I would swear if I could. What a embarrassment to this site. Fox has elite SS traits. Brujan not far behind. Sanchez will likely be one of the best defensive cof’s in baseball. Josh Lowe hasn’t proved he can hit but he’s a stud at CF. Only reason why he’s still a prospect.
Honestly I think I’ve realised by this post that you should never be allowed to post about baseball again. NOBODY wants to We these disgraceful lies.
matt4baseball
I agree, it’s time for owners to open their books since they have been less than truthful on almost every issue. The owners have a special tax exemption no other sport or business has, they owe it to the fans to show that they are making a minimum of 150% net profit that economists who worked for the smaller franchises say. They do have a absolute right to make money but not at the expense of the game itself and the players fans come to see and the young players who are basically not paid at all. Remember the time rich owners bought teams for a tax deduction? As for my Rays, I suggest we pay for a higher MLB approved roof at the Trop with no new taxes put on us residents and play ball.
Sirsleepit
Markakis just won a gold glove lol
doxiedevil
To upgrade Markakis would cost and unless a pitcher is in a deal Why bother. Markakis would probably take a 2 year deal, he is a fine outfielder, hitter and a doubles machine.
Braves brass says Camargo will be super sub, he can give Nick some rest , especially against tough lefties.
jay66
Cashman dont be stupid
realmuto is becoming so overrated
and as far as behind the dish hes o ly better at passed balls. I’ll take Gary and his 4 years of control and 40 homerun potential over jt everyday. DO NOT BRING HIM TO THE BX
Mjm117
Sanchez is a great offensive player. I do not doubt his talent. But as an overall MLB Catcher…Realmuto is clearly better.
Aside from Hr potential, Realmuto has proven to be better than Sanchez in every other category.
slider32
This trade makes too much sense for the Yanks, they have reloaded faster than expected and they might have too many young players. Adding Realmuto would give them another veteran at an important spot. Sanchez has more upside than most prospects the Marlins are going to get from other teams.
SoCalBrave
Yes, but Sanchez is not gonna be a catches. He’ll ultimately end up as a DH. The Marlins have little use for him.
slider32
Cashman stated that Sanchez is not going to be for sale this year, so that ends it.
stretch123
Sanchez and Abreu or Acevedo for Realmuto
or
Florial, Seigler, Tairo Estrada for Realmuto
bobtillman
Houston makes the most sense for JT; they’ll offer one of the Bobsey twins (Tucker or Whitely) and add in some lower shelf guys. I can’t see the Dodgers doing an overpay, with both Smith (glove) and Ruiz (bat) in the wings. The Yanks? Ya, but Jeter may not just want to.
emac22
Yeah. 🙂 Sorry.
The more comes from the Marlins.
SoCalBrave
Yankees trade Stanton and 5 million if he doesn’t opt out of his contract to the Braves for Teheran, O’Day and Soroka.
Rebuild it
Not even sure why you think the braves would entertain that. AA isnt taking on a dumb contract like that. The Braves wouldnt take Stanton less 5 mil if the Yanks threw in their top 2 prospects. A contract like that would decimate a mid market team like the Braves.
jk05949393
Realmuto is better than sanchez in every way. The only deal i would do is Sanchez, Frazier, Florial, and Garcia then you have a deal. Another deal is astros for Tucker, Alvarez, and Bukauskas thats fair for both. One more is the Cubs Contreras, Russell- who has no value, Happ, and Amaya. All of these are fair and could happen.
slider32
A value of a player is upside, control, and money, Sanchez wins on all accounts
Mjm117
No way do I want the fish to take that Cubs deal.
simschifan
Its Almora and no. That’s 4 possible starters for one. Realmuto is real good but that’s a bit much for two years, don’t be ridiculous
simschifan
There is an Amaya in the cubs organization. My bad.
olereb
Jk, you are crazy, the yanks and Astros would be fools to do that deal
bjupton100
I’m not sure if the Cubs include Happ.
bjupton100
Does anyone know how it works if a player pitches in the a.l.? Does he become ineligible to bat even if he moved back to a position?
stansfield123
He can bat, but the team loses the DH (any time a position player is moved into the pitcher role, or a pitcher is moved into a position player role, the team loses the DH for the remainder of the game).
bjupton100
Thanks
Begamin
I wanna throw up after reading these comments. Do people really think Sanchez’s 2018 is a fair representation of him??? Let the kid play and see if he cant get back to his 2017 form. He does that and he is back to being the best catcher in the league.
P.S there is more to catching than passed balls
Mjm117
Very true except that he never was the best catcher in baseball.
Offensively? Hands down top hitting C.
Overall? Sanche Isn’t better than Realmuto.
stansfield123
Overall, huh? Mkay, well, overall (meaning on their careers, Gary Sanchez has an .847 OPS, and hits a HR every 14 ABs (as a fun fact, only four players with 3000ABs or more have hit a HR more frequently than that: McGwire, Ruth, Bonds and Thome).
Realmuto has a .768 OPS, and hits a HR every 40.5 ABs.
Defensively, it takes Gary Sanchez to contribute a win above average 166 games. It takes Realmuto 234 games.
petrie000
Asking for patience in an internet sports forum is a fools errand. The takes have to be hot or you don’t get them likes, after all
Begamin
Yeah but who cares about likes when you use the app amirite
ffrhb14Sox
Sanchez will never be the best catcher in the league. Even if he gets back his offense which has gone down from the short 16 to 17 to basement level in 18, he only has one plus on defense and that is a strong arm. He isnt smart, is lazy and that probably wont change now. What if he backs up 2018 and that’s who he is?
Begamin
He calls a good game and frames slightly above average.
“only has one plus on defense”
gtfo outta here
ffrhb14Sox
Framing might be the most laughable “stat” in baseball. He tries to yank pitches instead of framing them. In his defense most catchers do. How do you measure calling a good game? Fewest shakeoffs? Best results? Word of his pitchers? Speed of tge game? GTFAOH with those.
Backatitagain
I can see a 2/16 contract for Markakis with an option for2021.
Backatitagain
No interest in Realmuto, whoever gets him, good luck. I wouldn’t trade Sanchez for him straight up.
jordsmac26
Rays pay roll is at 33 mill and it’s usually at around 70-75 mill. Not sure why we have fools who think this is some good Will nonsense? Rays are trying to win have the piece to win WILL win and will make a big move to help them WIN.
That’s a fact.
savagedeluxe
McNeal and D’Arnaud and who else do the Mets need to give for Realmuto?
jerseyjoehaven
Sanchez needs to wear a blocking skirt behind the plate. Not sure it’s legal in MLB but it would work for every Catcher playing ball. It hangs down from the Catcher chest protector. Its a leather flap that hangs to the ground between the Catchers legs.
ffrhb14Sox
Wouldnt work for him because he misses balls because he is too lazy to drop both knees to the ground and tries to catch balls instead of block them. The “skirt” you speak of is of almost no value to any catcher who blocks with technique but may have minimal value for lazy catchers.
steelerbravenation
You must have never played the position if you believe lack of throwing your body in front of a ball makes you lazy. It actually makes you arrogant. I am not even a Yankee fan but how can all you Yankee fans not see. Sanchez has passed balls because he is to worried about catching the ball and being in position to transfer the ball and throw it. When nobody is on base he blocks balls in the dirt all the time. His greatest strength is his biggest weakness he worries to much about a guy taking off and advancing that he leaves himself vulnerable to balls in the dirt.
ffrhb14Sox
Not a Yamkee fan and caught through college. He hardly drops to two knees tries to catch the ball instead of block it. To me poor technique, especially when you see it isnt working is lazy. His lack of hustle in other areas makes me think it is laziness. Maybe it is arrogance or he doesnt know how to do it but whatever the reason we agree he has a problem.
Dagoat
I feel the only way a trade of sanchez is OK is if the majority of the pitching staff has complained about him enough to warrant dealing him. Personally I like his upside. I think realmato is overhyped, but not unnecessarily. He is good, but sanchez has more control and i believe his problems to be correctable. I hope they don’t make a move like this rumor entails and we get a chance to see the krakens potential. He can be a game changer. and i watch every game.
The biggest holes are the swing and miss in key situations. Those hurt us way more than the passed balls imo. I cant recall me cringing to anything he did defensively.
Dagoat
I feel the only way a trade of sanchez is OK is if the majority of the pitching staff has complained about him enough to warrant dealing him. Personally I like his upside. I think realmato is overhyped, but it is not unwarranted. Just exaggerated. He is good, but sanchez has more control and i believe his problems to be correctable. I hope they don’t make a move like this rumor entails and we get a chance to see the krakens potential. He can be a game changer. and i watch every game.
The biggest holes are the swing and miss in key situations. Those hurt us way more than the passed balls imo. I cant recall me cringing to anything he did defensively.
steelerbravenation
If anybody were to get on him about swing and misses in key situations than they need to get on the whole yankee team for it they all do it Judge included. I can’t believe how many Yankee fans drank the punch and hung this kid out to dry. Yankees biggest problem is the idiot manager.
Dagoat
Fair point
slider32
Today’s metric departments aren’t missing as much as front offices did in the old days. Times have changed and if good teams are after Realmuto and good teams are giving up good players, he is a good option. Anyone who is a contender should be after him. In the Yankee case i think they reloaded ahead of schedule, and are looking for another veteran in the line-up. They had 3 rookies in the line-up last year and other young players like Sanchez and Judge. Most team excel when their good players have a least 3 years of experience.
Cuso
That is ridiculous to believe the Yanks would entertain that. Makes no sense no matter what spin you try to put on it.
bravesfan
I would like the braves to move on from Markasis and just work with what they have offensively. If u are gonna sign someone, make sure it’s a clear cut upgrade