7:16pm: It’s a one-year deal for Harvey, Feinsand tweets. Fancred’s Jon Heyman tweets that the deal will guarantee Harvey $11MM, and Yahoo’s Jeff Passan tweets that Harvey can earn an additional $3MM worth of incentives. Per Heyman (Twitter link), those incentives are based on games started and kick in at 15 starts before maxing out at 26 starts. Harvey’s deal is still pending a physical.
7:07pm: The Angels have agreed to a deal with free-agent right-hander Matt Harvey, reports Mark Feinsand of MLB.com (via Twitter). Harvey is represented by agent Scott Boras.
Harvey, 29, will be the first rotation addition for an Angels club that entered the winter in significant need of innings. The 2018 Angels were decimated by injuries, as Garrett Richards, Shohei Ohtani and J.C. Ramirez each underwent Tommy John surgery, while others such as Matt Shoemaker and Nick Tropeano missed substantial time on the disabled list.
Harvey will join lefties Andrew Heaney and Tyler Skaggs as locks to start games for the Halos, but the rest of the rotation is still somewhat unsettled. Tropeano, Jaime Barria, Felix Pena and Dillon Peters are among the other candidates to start for newly hired manager Brad Ausmus, though the names to which the Angels were connected prior to the Harvey agreement perhaps underscore the remaining work that GM Billy Eppler and his staff have ahead.
Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register recently reported that the Angels made a two-year, $28MM offer to J.A. Happ before he returned to the Yankees, and USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets that the Halos also made a “strong” offer to Patrick Corbin before he signed a whopping $140MM contract with the Nationals. Given those targets and the still-palpable uncertainty in the Angels’ mix of starters, it’s reasonable to expect that they’ll continue pursuing upgrades to the top portion of their starting staff.
The $11MM guarantee for Harvey suggests that the Angels are not only buying Harvey’s turnaround with the Reds in 2018 but anticipating that he can take another step forward. Harvey’s Mets career was torpedoed by Tommy John surgery and the even more ominous thoracic outlet surgery — the lingering effects of which caused the Mets to ultimately cut the cord and flip the right-hander to Cincinnati in exchange for catcher Devin Mesoraco. Harvey gave the Reds 128 innings of 4.50 ERA ball with more encouraging secondary metrics: 7.8 K/9, 2.0 BB/9 and a 42.6 percent ground-ball rate. ERA alternatives like FIP, xFIP and SIERA all pegged Harvey in the low 4.00s.
With the Reds, Harvey saw his average fastball velocity trend up from 92.6 mph in New York to 94.4 mph, and his swinging-strike rate improved from 8.2 percent to 9.9 percent. Neither of those marks are close to Harvey’s peak levels from his “Dark Knight” days, but the positive trends were encouraging enough for the Angels to bet a fairly notable sum that the beleaguered right-hander can hold up over the course of a full season. If that proves to be the case, Harvey could eventually emerge as a candidate to receive a qualifying offer, creating a bit of additional upside for the Halos.
By adding Harvey on an $11MM salary, the Angels push their projected Opening Day payroll up to about $156.2MM — a sum that falls roughly $10MM shy of the $165.8MM Opening Day payroll the team has averaged over the past three seasons. MLBTR contributor Rob Huff recently took a deep dive into the Halos’ payroll, estimating that the team could have as much as $36MM to spend this winter, assuming ownership approval of a slight uptick in payroll. With only Harvey and Justin Bour (one year, $2.5MM) as new additions to the books thus far, there’s certainly room for at least one more notable rotation addition — be it via the free-agent market or via trade.
The pairing of Harvey and the Angels, in some respects, has been more than a decade in the making. The Halos selected Harvey in the third round of the 2007 draft but were unable to sign him despite offering a bonus widely reported to be greater than $1MM in total. That decision, of course, proved to be a good one for Harvey, who was selected seventh overall out of UNC in 2010 and received a considerably heftier $2.5MM bonus from the Mets. Much has changed in the decade-plus since that offer was made, but Harvey is in many ways an upside play, just as he was as a draft prospect in 2007 — albeit a far more expensive one this time around.
For Harvey, the one-year term gives him a further opportunity to distance himself from his disastrous 2016-17 results and re-enter the open market after spending a year in a relatively pitcher-friendly environment. Though he’s moving from the National League to the American League, he’ll also move from one of the game’s most homer-friendly parks to the much more spacious Angel Stadium, which could help him pare back the 1.48 HR/9 he averaged following his trade to Cincinnati. Harvey’s ultimate contract aligns with the annual value we at MLBTR predicted in our Top 50 free agents list, though our rankings projected a two-year term for the former Mets ace. Meanwhile, Harvey’s landing with the Angels won’t do favors to many who participated in MLBTR’s free-agent prediction contest; only 2.9 percent of respondents correctly pegged Harvey to the Halos.
Melvin McMurf
and about time they did something
MetsYankeesRedSox
Was I right or was I right?
sufferforsnakes
I don’t know. Was you or your alternate personality right?
PhanaticDuck26
MLBTR guys playin’ whack-a-mole! 🙂
MetsYankeesRedSox
Only one I have…sorry to disappoint.
prov356
You used to post under “baseball1600”. Maybe that’s the alternate personality he’s talking about.
Cat Mando
phi447…….You have him confused with “MetsYankeesWhiteSox” as he admitted here ……….
“MetsYankeesWhiteSox 8 hours ago
I love Hanson. I was the only one on these threads months ago advocating for him to be the starting 2B (my old account baseball1600 was banned) ”
mlbtraderumors.com/2018/12/troy-tulowitzki-rumors-…
prov356
Well, those are strangely close names.
xabial
Thanks for the heads up
SocraticGadfly
Hey, they could move Pujols to the mound since they signed Bour. Nothing left to lose at this point, amirite?
deweybelongsinthehall
The team is betting a ridiculous salary that he will rebound and can be flipped at the deadline even if they eat $!. Should have been $5m plus incentives max given his recent history.
petfoodfella
Maybe $5m wasn’t enough to get him to sign? Maybe he had an offer for $8m?
toastyroasty
Agreed
NotaGM
haha his “turnaround with the reds”…..era 4.50 for 11 mill. they should have traded for Porcello.
Enki
Couldn’t agree more with you. Harvey is a mess and the Angels got suckered here on this one.
mikeyank55
And Enki when Wheeler goes on the DL after spring training you will be humming, “humnaah”.
Cardinals17
Matt Harvey has been the sleeper in Free agency. He may we’ll be the person who vaults the Angles into the 2019 playoffs.
Yanks2
Why
Melvin McMurf
they need to do something
oldleftylong
Isn’t he regularly … uh, … injured?
Vizionaire
yeah, but if the team doesn’t do anything even the angels fans may not go to the games.
sufferforsnakes
Aren’t all their pitchers regularly injured? He’ll fit right in.
tophaloph
Nah, Angels pitchers get a terrible injury while playing for the Angels. Harvey has already been “broken in” so to speak.
shortytallz
The Dark Knight Rises….
juicemane
This feels more like Batman Forever
dugdog83
Haha nice
ScottRC
It’s so you, and it’s so YOOUUUU!!!
Frisco500
Dammit juice, that was a nice one
walls17
Yikes
PhilliesFan012
1-16 in the FA contest now :’)
Melvin McMurf
finally won
jdgoat
Same
Four4fore
Were tied.
ScottRC
Same here.
cmancoley
Still struggling to see how this is any better than Shoemaker
steven st croix
I guess Eppler thinks other team has beens/never was’ are better than his.
Vizionaire
maybe cheaper.
Vizionaire
heck, cheaper? no!
thecalhounkid
Not even close.
Bart
Shoemaker is always injured.
Vizionaire
harvey isn’t?
mark68
The Big Splash
cmancoley
Just a stab in the heart to an already horrible offseason
MetsYankeesWhiteSox
Good! Now go sign 4 more and you might make the playoffs.
Kenleyfornia74
Back to who originally drafted him
Vizionaire
he was a popular subject for angels trolls.
halofan20
Oh man hHhHAAAAHAHAHAHAH
Lefty Grove’s right hand
Damn! I guess the A’s have to settle with Gio now or some other third tier SP.
PhanaticDuck26
still quite a bit to pick from… something says guys like Anderson and Cahill will be back on the A’s… they’ve played for other teams but they always just seem like A’s to me…probably because I don’t watch any AL west games.
Lefty Grove’s right hand
It would be pretty cool to all three Anderson, Cahill, and Gonzalez in the rotation again. Yet, Anderson might not come back. He wasn’t too sharp last season.
DarkSide830
Fingers crossed – that might get me on the board on the contest. haha
arc89
Harvey is a big question. That is a lot of money not knowing what you will get. Its the same if the A’s sign any of those 3.
alc47
Really rooting for him.
Kingmojo101
Been along time coming….if I’m not mistaking, didn’t the angels draft him but couldn’t work out a deal with Harvey?
MetsYankeesRedSox
American League too.
His days are numbered.
swanhenge
I would love to see some stats on pitchers changing leagues especially NL to AL. Some were pretty drastic. Zimmerman one of the latest.
Ry.the.Stunner
Gerrit Cole did pretty damn good going from the NL to the AL.
Empire Exoticz
In what universe is G. Cole the same as Harvey?
Falsehope
In what universe did he say they were the same
Empire Exoticz
When he did the comparison by saying that if G. Cole did it, Harvey can as well.
Falsehope
‘I would love to see the stats on pitchers changing leagues…’
‘Gerrit Cole did pretty damn good…’
Weird…I don’t see anything that says Gerrit Cole and Matt Harvey are to be compared…?
bucketbrew35
I think it was Universe C-137.
MetsYankeesRedSox
Pitching coach Rick Sanchez, right?
stretcharmstrong1
Angel Stadium isn’t anything like Great American Ballpark. And he will be pitching in front of a better defense. Hope they aren’t done by a long shot. They need another arm for the rotation and a closer. Is there any chance they would move Ward back to catcher ?
jdgoat
Really thought he made sense in Milwaukee. This contest has completely went to crap for me.
mmarinersfan
Nathan Eovaldi is still the only one I’ve gotten right
jdgoat
Joe smelly for me
kboroczk
Just another example of how the Reds continue to fail at their rebuild. They should have traded Billy Hamilton when he had value before last season but hung on only to release him. Then they create some value with Harvey only to hold on to him so he can sign elsewhere. So frustrating…..
Bryan
Yep. But sure enough, if anything, we can always count on Reds FO to lose time after time. Even if they only brought back a fringe MLB player with years of control left, it would have been worth it. But nope, lose him for nothing.
trendysayings
With all the injury problems the Angels’ pitchers have had, don’t you think they’d target guys that are durable?
angels4life 2
That’s what I hoped….
Philliesfan4life
I hope they bring in Anibal Sanchez for a veteran presence
bucketbrew35
Nope and that’s probably the main precursor to Trout walking in 2 years time. Sh*t, I would too.
zachary08
Shew! I was afraid the Reds would resign him, thanks Angels. Christmas cards to Royals for signing Hamilton, now one to Angels for this
Thx
DarkSide830
did you just call the Angels shrews?
bucketbrew35
Shrew
Noun
1. A small mouselike insectivorous mammal with a long pointed snout and tiny eyes.
2. A bad-tempered or aggressively assertive woman.
Sounds pretty close to me eh.
Kingmojo101
1 yr and up to 14 mil in bonuses and incentives
HalosFan8
can’t wait to see how far into March our “healthy” pitching staff lasts
PepperoniPapi
Boras gets to watch him from right behind home plate now. Doubt that it made any difference but it’s the first thing I thought about.
chino31
Just trade Trout already
Erie4312
Trout to braves for a signed acuna jersey, a reeses cup, and Adam Duvall
bobtillman
NO WAY!!!! NO REECES CUP…..a bag of M&Ms maybe……
ray714
A player finally chose to sign with the Angels? Haha..
Syndergaarden Cop
Angels got ripped off
Vizionaire
by its own gm. the thing is it’s not the first time.
Pedro Cerrano's Voodoo
Constant head scratchers over there.
The Human Toilet
Reds are such a confusing team to understand. They did not trade Hamilton at the deadline then Non-tender him after the season and Kept Harvey around when he had value instead of trading him and now he walks for nothing.
Bryan
Because we are the Reds man and our FO are idiots (outside of picking up Scooter. But we will find a way to screw that up eventually also)
Vizionaire
want to exchange with ours?
Bryan
Hahaha who is yours? Might not matter, I still say yes hahaha
Kevin 28
Castillo, Schebler, Peraza, DeSclafani, Suarez. All via trades. Yes, FO missed on Chapman (badly) and Cueto trades. But appears there was no market for Harvey and Hamilton at deadline. If there was, return is poor at best. If return is junk (and it would be for what Hamilton and Harvey signed for) who cares if the trade was made or not? And look at return – Roark is currently better than Harvey and the Reds got him for a 23rd ranked prospect.
gocincy
Trading Harvey would have netted the Reds nothing, plus it would have further exposed pitchers who aren’t ready for the majors. At some point, not everything can be about the future. Invest in winning some games now. It’s demoralizing to give up and it doesn’t teach the kids how to compete to win night after night. The culture was terrible under Price and changing it could not wait. Still a ways to go.
RedRooster
“Trading Harvey would have netted the Reds nothing…”
Would have saved the Reds a few million dollars and gotten a clubhouse cancer off the team.
“… plus it would have further exposed pitchers who aren’t ready for the majors. ”
If getting called up to the Majors two months early ruins their chances of succeeding as Major League pitchers, it never would have happened in the first place.
“Invest in winning some games now.”
Why? Reds were already out of the playoff race so all those extra wins did was hurt their draft position.
“It’s demoralizing to give up and it doesn’t teach the kids how to compete to win night after night.”
If the Reds’ rebuild goes as hoped and 3-4 years from now you are attending their World Series parade, are you really going to care about the 1-2 extra victories they picked up at the end of 2018 by not trading Matt Harvey?
Rex Block
Roark is currently better than Harvey …
I never thought I’d read those words.
cmancoley
How is $11 million for Harvey better than the $5 million or whatever it was for Shoemaker? Someone please explain
angelsfan4life
The nerve damage in Shoemaker arm and hand might not be close to be gone. Even after he came back, he was having trouble with his grip on the baseball.
thetruth 2
So they don’t seem to be in on any aces, missed out on all top free agent starters except for Keuchel, who they haven’t been rumored to be in on and this is their “upgrade” over Shoemaker. They should trade Trout because they’re not serious about winning before his free agency.
PhanaticDuck26
I mean…they are just in a really bad spot…they can’t just throw money at the problem in a hope that it goes away. even if they eat the rest of Albert’s contract, do you think they’d go out and overpay for another one so soon? And who would it even be? Harper or Machado? Then what about their severe lack of pitching??? They just need a LOT of help and it’s near impossible to do it all in one offseason. A very difficult position, really, as nobody wants to be leading the team that trades Mike Trout, but all signs point to his trade as probably the best baseball move they could make right now…especially with Houston getting stronger and stronger…
Vizionaire
dunno how much is guaranteed but it won’t be very little. eppy award!
Chris Mahle
Solid addition to an injury prone Angel’s pitching staff. Hopefully he can stay healthy and have a great season for them. Good luck Mr. Harvey.
Wish him nothing but success for the upcoming season
Vizionaire
solid? lol!
darkstar61
Related to Greg? Nice guy
Syndergaarden Cop
what a joke
puigpower
I don’t understand what the angels are doing.
YakAttack
Neither do they, methinks.
justin-turner overdrive
Excellent sign just as long as they make like 5 more like this.
AzMike
I would rather they’d have done nothing. Giving Harvey 14 million? You have to be kidding me? It’s Josh Hamilton Gary MatthewsJr and Vernon Wells all over again
Bart
Its a one year contract.
Vizionaire
one too many!
AzMike
Agreed
tophaloph
For real! Settle down, slugger. We get a chance to watch Trout steal some more HRs!!!
thelastonetodie
I thought Wells was untradeable.. he was already garbage and the halos decided to actually give something for him.. I Coudnt believe it and still don’t
justin-turner overdrive
Its 11 million and only 14 if he’s good, and you appear to…not want him to be good? To keep up the Angels FA fail ratio???
You do understand that 100% of free agents arent failures, right?
darkstar61
“Its 11 million and only 14 if he’s good”
Not 14 if he’s good, 14 if he’s merely healthy-ish
Los Angeles does not appear to expect more than 15 starts out of him and are giving bonuses if he can even do that
jbigz12
If he chucks up another season like last year he gets 14 Mil. Now tell me Jt, is that good? This was a comedic overpay for a pitcher who was a shell of his former self.
JayRyder
Way OverPay. . . But Angels needed starters. Harvey has a fastball. And angent Scott Boras Stikes Again… . . . Talk about working the well. !!!
Begamin
overpay? 10M is generally the starting rate for most SP past arbitration. Theyre 1M over on a former allstar? They arent spending much at all. Wouldnt say this is just what the Angels needed but wouldnt call this an overpay either
justin-turner overdrive
Yeah, screw the players! Let the billionaire owners have ALL the money!!!
The players are literally who drives this billionaire industry, but sure, give all the fat white old man owners all the money! The players deserve NONE of it!!!
(If you ever use the word “overpay” know that you are a massive, massive scumbag idiot)
teddyj
JustinTurnerOverdrive spoken like a true millennial looooser! Yeah grossly overpay the players , so the fans have to overpay for a family night out.
davidcoonce74
With the insane TV money coming in, your night at the ballpark has nothing to do with player salaries. Teams will charge what the market will bear. Most of the money to go to a game never leaves the stadium.
angelsinthetroutfield
What relevance is their being fat, white, or old?
darkstar61
He’s clearly triggered and lashing out
jordanjee
Arte Moreno doesn’t seem to fit your description of an MLB owner.
bobtillman
Ya, it’s way too much…..welcome to the AL, Dark Knight….methinks your “knights” are going to get darker……
jules
Just hope he is at least half as good as his Dad was when he played for the Angels……
gmenfan
Below league average for three straight years and he’ll be making as much as $14M next year ? Well done, Angels …
Altanta Barves
Harvey’s going to win the Cy Young and shut all the haters up. Watch. Bet.
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
I’d take that bet against…
thelastonetodie
No
justin-turner overdrive
All these morons totally ignoring he’s in a contract year in his prime, smh god damn baseball fans are absolute f’n morons all of the time….
thelastonetodie
Last year was a contract year too, and with the injury history, his prime was years ago, before the first injuries, he was better last year but I wouldn’t expect an ERA/FIP less than 3.70 and most likely more around 4-4.5
vtadave
Pot meet kettle,
NewYorkMetropolitans
Harvey is garbage and he’s also a narcissistic poophead
HaloShane
The Angels organization has zero direction….
darkstar61
Hahaha. They don’t have much money available, and THIS is how they chose to spend it? Amazing
TooToughToScuffle
4.00ish FIP? In the National League? Expect him to get knocked around in the American League. Better Players, Better Teams, Designated Hitter…
titanic struggle
Wow…suprised to see him get that much for 1 year, can’t blame him for signing that. Thanks for your time in Cincy Matt, best of luck ..
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
Not that far away from a name change to the Los Angeles TeeJays of Anaheim…
jordanjee
The 10 seconds I spent trying to get this joke is time I’ll never get back
jordanjee
Damnit, I just got it.
RedRooster
I THOUGHT HE WAS GUARANTEED TO SIGN WITH THE REDS!!!!!!!!!!!
xabial
Or Reds. Didn’t they rejuvenate his career and owners not trade him for anything, when they had the chance?
RedRooster
That went further over your head than a grounder over Miguel Andujar’s glove.
xabial
swear I thought I read Mets lol
Andujar will improve D. Nowhere go but up 😉
Vizionaire
this is a bit strange. arte has a policy not to deal with boras. why would he let his gm get murdered by his mortal enemy?
Bart
Maybe he has another deal with a bigger fish in the works with Boras.
jordanjee
Exactly what I was thinking. Perhaps Boras was making it a 2 for 1 deal, in that the Halos had to take Harvey if they wanted the guy from Vegas. Extremely unlikely, but, it could happen.
Rex Block
That would be collusion and the players union would have a grievance if it ever came to light.
socalbball
Maybe Boras threatened not to renew his season tickets if Arte didn’t sign Harvey.
Begamin
hahah remember that one time the reds traded for him with the intentions of flipping him at the deadline and when the deadline came and Harvery was pitching decently they didnt trade him and then people thought their plan was that they were gonna resign him and then they didnt?
hahah good times
justin-turner overdrive
Yeah the Reds sure will miss that crappy 23 year old still at A-ball he would have bought back in a deadline deal.
RedRooster
Answer this question who was more likely to contribute to the next good Reds team: Matt Harvey or the aforementioned 23 year-old in A-ball?
Begamin
that doesnt excuse the incompetence to not trade him or resign him
619bird
It’s a short trip from the ballpark to LA. A town he loves so dearly.
Best thing this guy did was get shipped out of NYC. He likey the nightlife.
justin-turner overdrive
sonny gray does too shhhhh
Psychguy
I hope Eppler doesn’t think Harvey is the ace they need so badly.
juicemane
“Because we cant win, that would be a sin”- Adrian Brodie
jordanjee
Haha! So many levels to this comment. ANYtime someone makes a reference to Adrian Brodie in Angels in the Outfield is a win.
Halos2021WSChamps
I like this.. Only chance angels make playoffs is If they catch lightning in a bottle..this could be…
Get some bullpen now!!
JJ Wattcha Going to do Brother
$11 million?!? Wow!!
justin-turner overdrive
11 mill on harvey is perfectly fine wtf are you thinking???
angelsinthetroutfield
Meh, it’s fair but at the same time Mike Fiers was non-tendered for less and the was the better pitcee last year. I feel like it was too early to pay market value for a guy of Harvey’s ilk. Hold out for a better bargain, if you miss out did you really lose much?
jbigz12
I’d say 1/11 for Harvey isn’t god awful. I don’t even mind giving incentives in his deal. But when you give incentives that are going to be reached just by being healthy that’s what I don’t like. If he makes 26 starts he gets 14 million. Stupid. Put in some incentives that get hit when he’s actually a good pitcher.
Vizionaire
why are you so angry? is harvey your hubby or something?
AzMike
He pitched to a plus 4.5 ERA last year for the Reds and that was a massive improvement for him from his 7 ERA with the Mets. 2017 – 6.70 ERA in 19 starts
2016 – 4.86 ERA over 17 starts. He hasn’t had a year approaching being deserving of a salary like this since 2015.
Grade_1_teacher
Harvey will get hammered in the American League. This won’t end well.
justin-turner overdrive
Harvey has a career 2.58 ERA against the AL in his career, genius.
Like, why even bother commenting?
vtadave
You seem very angry about this, Harvey has a 6.39:ERA against the AL the past three years, but yeah I’m sure he’ll recapture that past glory.
NewYorkMetropolitans
Harvey is trash
nymetsking
Trash wouldn’t touch Harvey with a ten foot pole.
billwood23
Harvey is just an icebreaker for negotiations with Boras to sign Harper
stansfield123
The Angels can’t afford Harper.
Vizionaire
if so, it’s even worse.
leftcoaster
A bad signing.
stansfield123
Okay, so yes, the Angels off-season is gonna be lackluster. Their payroll is high, there’s no money left. It’s what it is.
But, in 2018, the AL had 7 teams competing for 5 playoff spots: RS, Yankees, Astros, Indians, As, Mariners and Angels. No one else had any interest whatsoever in winning (which is sad, but another story entirely…there need to be radical changes made to motivate teams to compete each year).
Since then, things have gotten even worse, because the Mariners gave up, and the only team, out of the eight participation award chasers that seems even remotely interested in re-joining the playoff race is the WS. And they’re not particularly well positioned for it.
So, for the first time in years, I think the Angels have a good shot at making the playoffs. It would only take one of the five teams ahead of them to fall apart, and it’s their playoff spot to lose, with only one, fairly weak, challenger to deal with (the WS).
P.S. No, the Rays don’t count. They’re hopelessly behind the RS and Yankees, and it’s next to impossible for two WC teams to come out of the same division (especially since the Blue Jays are not pushovers, they’ll hurt the Rays’ chances for the second WC spot even more).
Ejemp2006
Amen
Ironman_4life
Any guesses on which month he must undergo TJ ?
justin-turner overdrive
man, why do you hate this guy SO much??? insane…
gmenfan
Because he picked on a weakling. That’s all he did, all right? The rest of this is just smoke-filled coffeehouse crap.
thelastonetodie
Not sure why you defend him and his (up to) 14m salary. It’s not a fantastic signing. ?
beyou02215
Boras always gets bailed out. The Orioles with Crushed Davis, the Padres with Hosmer, and so on and so forth.
Ejemp2006
Boras doesn’t get bailed out, he is just insanely good at his job, which is getting his players paid for their potential, not their performance. If Boras writes a book on success principles, I’m reading.
beyou02215
I guess it only takes one sucker-of-a-team for each free agent.
Danny B.
Good luck Anaheim. You just wanted $11 million.
Danny B.
I’m predicting a losing win/loss record and an ERA over 5. Mark it down. Harvey is going to need physical therapy from all the whiplash he gets from constantly seeing balls crushed over his head.
Senioreditor
7-11, 4.94
Iron Horse
Matt Harvey, you are a madman. When you stole that cow, and your friend tried to make it with the cow. I want to party with you, cowboy.
@DaOldDerbyBastard
He’s gonna love partying in LA.
Chris Mahle
Greg is my brother
darkstar61
Unusual name, which is why I asked. As I said, he’s a nice guy. Had chance to meet him a few times. Wish him well
Ejemp2006
Prediction time all you haters. Put your words into the eternal ether of mlbtr.
My bullish Harvey outlook:
W: 13
L: 9
Innings: 155
ERA: 4.25
WHIP: 1.2
And the verdict, he’ll be well worth this contract. Cheap for a solid 3rd starter.
JFactor
He has a 5.39 ERA over the last three years (start of 2016) his age 27-29 seasons and 340 innings and his velocity is dipping.
gstarrett
His fb velo went from 92.6 with the Mets to 94.4 with the reds
darkstar61
Down from 97 pre-injuries
macstruts
His velocity isn’t dipping, it’s increasing, and he had 4 to 1 BB ratio in Cincinnati is a nice peripheral number.
MikeyHammer
W: 10
L: 12
IP: 125
ERA: 4.87
WHIP: 1.30
Rex Block
Brutal, but I’ll go with it. IP might be low for that record unless you’re expecting him to get lit up early and often…. which may also be the case.
Senioreditor
7-11, 4.94
bradthebluefish
I agree with Ejemp’s outlook.
jbigz12
That outlook you just gave us is not worth 14 mil. You probably could’ve gotten Trevor Cahill and another backend guy for not much more than that. It’s not like the Halos don’t need another competent starter long term either. The fact that they couldn’t even get themselves an option for next year is bad. Something like the 1/11 which is really a 1/14 if he’s healthy with a 15-18 MM Club option next year would’ve been an okay deal to me. This deal just sucks. If he’s great then, great. But nothing he’s done recently says that’ll be the case
Ejemp2006
What’s your forecast?
jbigz12
I don’t think your projection is terribly off. But that’s not worth 14 million dollars. 155 innings assuming let’s say 30 starts means he’s essentially a 5 inning starter. 5 inning starters who put up Era’s in the mid 4’s should not cost you 14 mil. They’re paying for the upside of what he did many years ago at this point.
Goose
Mike Trout gets another lost season. Sad to see such a talent on such a horrible team.
Rex Block
He knew what he was getting into when he signed the extension. All around though, gotta think he’s the ultimate team player. Of the big FAs on the market this off-season, he would have been #1.
JFactor
He got waaaaay too much cash
Padres458
11m seems crazy.
holecamels35
Wow, so 5 innings and 3 runs a start gets you 11M? Can’t blame Harvey.
bballlover93
Fairly low risk move but they definitely need to step up and get more pitching. Need several starters and bullpen arms.
Vonroper
They overpaid by $10,450,000
stan lee the manly
Holy heck that’s a lot of millions for someone who hasn’t done a whole lot of anything lately. Pretty big gamble on Anaheim’s part, but it’s hard not to root for them after they have suffered injury after injury.
bigdaddyhacks
May or June for season ending injury?
gmenfan
Dibs on August DFA.
ExileInLA 2
If that deal comes with a club option for 2 more years @ $15mm bass (same incentives) if Harvey puts it together to be an average/above-average pitcher, it makes sense.
Otherwise, it’s a gift to Boras…or maybe Boras paid $1mm for his tix for next year?
macstruts
Deals like this occasional work out and since it’s a one year deal teams are never burned.,
For the Reds he had a four to one K to BB ration last year. Nice Gamble. He pitched 150 innings last year. The Angels had one pitcher who threw that many innings.
Just having someone who may pitch 150 innings in the 4th or 5th spot is worth the gamble. .
Vizionaire
home runs were hit at fairly high rate last few years.
macstruts
Very high! Moving from a homer palace to Anaheim may help. But you are right, it’s a huge warning sign.
fannclub6
Amazing what $11 million will buy these days. Wow.
LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngels
Scott Boras strikes again
LongTimeFan1
This works out well for Harvey who once was declaring himself a 200 mil player and then last season wondered if his career was coming to end.
So the 11 mil with the possibility of 3 more is a nice payday for Harvey. If he pitches well he can then position himself for multi-year deal perhaps with the Yankees who he’s always wanted to be and grew up rooting for them.
He’s also very into the night-life and big social scene and he’ll get that in L.A. He’s come a long way able now to voluntarily give up New York night life for much of 2019 and a city he absolutely loves. Perhaps Cincinatti was that bridge he needed between the two coasts to adjust. Maturing also does wonders as he heads into his age 30 season.
Vizionaire
oc is much quieter at night than l.a. but then he only has to get in a uber.
GrandpaBaseball
This is a very weak attempt to secure a starter. As for the money you know this is what was offerred to Corbin. I am disenchanted in the progree of Eppler. Harvey is washed up. Sad day of Angels Baseball News. Trade Trout for a big and rich haul now. This franchise is a mess starting with the owner and moving on to the GM continueing to the manager. Show some pride Albert and retire.
prov356
Hi Gramps! Long time.
bradthebluefish
Quite a lot of money for a 4.00+ ERA pitcher.
Vizionaire
don’t let him pitch in september and october. his batting line against in those months; .293/.350/.450. since angels have slim to no chance to play in october, watch out in september!
Angels50
Great Pickup. Doomers continue to be clueless. Grandpa
(doesn’t know) Baseball is a great example. Next thing he’s gonna tell you is he’s a Batting Coach for a High School Team in Big Bear. Loser.
Vizionaire
with eppler running the show angels have never even sniffed the postseason. what will be the excuse of this season? is it still going to be arte’s fault? yeah, enjoy angels baseball without trout in 2021!
its_happening
The HITTING Coach for a High School team in Big Bear would know better not to spend 8-figures on a Matt Harvey. Typical Angels overpay.
You must be the “back” catcher on your rec league team. Batting coach….please…..
DTI812
“My friend Harvey is bigger than me.”
“I got a friend Shirley that’s bigger than you”
Good luck Matt, thanks for the memories.
LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngels
Matt Harvey reminds me of Nicolas Cage. I’ll be happy cheering for him haha
prov356
No matter what the article is about, the pretend Angels fans (“Thetruth”, et al) always try to turn the conversation into the “trade Trout now” ridiculousness.
jordanjee
Even if Trout re-upped with a 10 year extension, those same dudes would start whining about how “we’re gonna lose him” in 10 years.
Vizionaire
what incentive would trout have to re-sign with the angels? ‘thanks for drafting me’? he always says he loves the angels but if the team has no chance to advance his love for the team cannot be that strong.
prov356
Trading Trout makes no sense at all. The Angels are a few wins away from a playoff spot. Pitching is the answer, not trading away the best player in baseball…ridiculous and ignorant to suggest it.
Julio Franco's Birth Certificate
It’s time for the Angels to make a big move to reshape this horribly flawed team and do something big. Trade Trout for Kluber AND Bauer plus some additional prospects.
jbigz12
That’d be a nice lateral move. Take trout off your offense and then what. They can’t compete with their current roster minus trout even if you added Kluber and Bauer. They probably can’t compete with Trout. If you’re going to move Trout it has to be for a slew of prospects and very young major leaguers.
macstruts
The Angels have been a 500 team the last three years. Why a BIG move? They need to pick up about 7 to 10 wins. They could do that if they stay reasonably healthy.
Bring in another pitcher who can throw 150 innings and some relief pitching and they put themselves in that position.
prov356
Julio – Time for a big move? They have the best player in baseball with Trout, the best short stop in baseball with Simmons, a gold glove in right with Calhoun, a 4 time allstar/3 time silver slugger in left with Upton, a solid 3rd in Cozart, a few good options competing for 2nd, etc. I could go on but that doesn’t sound like a horribly flawed team. Do some research first before you post a comment.
Phanatic 2022
11-14M is way too much for the dark night
macstruts
What other pitcher did people want to bring in? Out of all the pitchers signed so far, this may be the best free agent buy.
There is no downside to this deal. An 11 million dollar contract in this environment is painless.
If he can give the Angles 150 innings with a league average ERA (which was 4.56 last year), he’s worth the money. And it’s possible he can do much better than that.
Vizionaire
$11 mil may not be that much for a starting pitcher but consider the angels needs and money it can spend. the team needs, at least, another reliable starter that has to come from free agents considering the state of the minor league prospects. need a closer and a couple of relief pitchers. epp wanted a catcher. needs a replacement/upgrade of kole calhoun. hope he’s able to get back to his old self but he has gotten worse every year. may need another infielder though that’s not as urgent as others listed.
now, do you still think angels have enough left for all the upgrades? and this was such a great acquisition that fits the price tag?
macstruts
I think if the Angels are smart, they do have enough for upgrades. Kole Calhoun is a killer. But at this point we don’t even know if MLB will ban the shift.
Unfortunately you can’t get a reliable starter. You can try, but it’s going to be very very expensive. Pick someone. Chances are you are going to be wrong and you’ve blown 100+ million dollars.
State of the minor leagues isn’t that bad. three top 100 prospects. Griffin Canning is ready to contribute. He’s ranked 72.
Sure, add another innings eater. Add a catcher. Add some bullpen arms. And I think there is a reasonable chance you’ll get 600+ innings from starters 1 – 4. Last year the Angels got around 500. Only Heaney got more than 130.
Bill Francis
Totally agree. Too many unknowledgeable fans think 3.5 ERA’s are abundant. Let’s hope he can even somewhat return to his form when he was a legitimate ace. Happens a lot more with pitchers than position players.
Yankeepatriot
You can’t ever go wrong on a one year deal. especially if your team is a cellar dweller or a mediocre team. If Harvey is hot at the deadline he would be easy flip bait as he has had prior succes. I’m still shocked at how quickly he flamed out after the 2015 World Series
macstruts
They have been a 500 team the last three years. That’s well above cellar dweller. It’s even a tick above mediocre. They simply can’t stay healthy.
WIth just health luck, the Angels easily pick up five wins. And now that the dinosaur Scioscia is gone, that’s a few more.
They are closer than people think.
Yankeepatriot
You think they can overtake the A’s and Astros in their own division ? The Astros losing 40% of their rotation are getting weaker and the A’s got super lucky with their dumpster diving for starters this past season.
macstruts
The A’s.? Did you see where the A’s were two years ago? Did you notice how many players they lost.
I’m not the least bit worries about the A’s. They are a lot closer to the 77, 70, and 73 win teams of 2015 – 2017 than they are to the 97 win team of last year.
So if I’m not worried about the A’s,, who should I be worried about? Who is the 5th best team in the AL? The Rays? Maybe. But the Angels can compete with the Rays. Especially if the Angels stay relatively healthy.
Bill Francis
Did you not see the Astros just picked up Michael Brantley? That’s a huge pick up.
macstruts
Right now there is no way the Angles can compete with Boston, Houston, New York or even Cleveland. So why lose picks and make huge financial commitments to try?
The Angels can compete with the A’s and Rays and every other team in the AL and this is a move that helps them get better.
With the A’s and M’s getting much worse. They don’t need to do a lot to approach 90 wins.
angels4life 2
Yeah but they need a healthy rotation. Too much risk here.
showman
Mets should have kept Harvey at the least hes better than Jason Vargas and has upside if he can return to form
showman
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Bill Francis
Like almost every team on these pick ups – we shall see. You never know.
Gordon Lightfoot
Justin Bour & Matt Harvey – Mike Trout’s problems are solved. The Angels continue to waste Trout’s time.
macstruts
So you think the Angels can make any moves and compete with the Big Four?
You people are out there.
jg_916
Must be nice that Anaheim has $11 mill to waste on pitcher Steve Harvey. Can’t wait to see him flopping and floundering against REAL ball clubs like those in the AL, rather than trying to get outs against Pittsburgh, San Diego, Miami, the NY Muts and the assortment of professional mediocrity (at best—at worst, yuck!) which proliferates throughout that other league. Maybe Harvey can make like his namesake, the invisible rabbit, when he faces Houston, Boston and the Yankees.
Rex Block
Steve Harvey? Those old “Family Feud” reruns will now earn a lot more in syndication.
macstruts
So when did you start following baseball? Yesterday?
Eleven Million for someone who is expected to be league average (over 4.5 ERA last year) and throw 150 innings is the standard rate.
Not to mention, he could be a lot better than that and if he’s not, in today’s environment 11 million is nothing.
AzMike
If he’s league average he gets 14 million…it’s an overpay and a disappointment
macstruts
Not really. It’s a really small gamble. The Angels need someone to throw innings. Who do you suggest? A 120 million dollar pitcher?
One year and 11 million for a guy with a 4-1 K ration and improving fastball and a couple years removed from injury is a darn good gamble.
rerogers
so… tommy john by the end of the year.
paulkauffmann
He was so mad at Mets over playing time Dont hear him saying maybe they saved my career at this time I truly wish him all the luck until he accused the Mets of holding him back and demanding play or trade me crap I believe at plstiff time I may be mistaken when the drama taking place